Finally got to play with Trophy! - Windows Phone 7 General

Until today, i thought Trophy wasn't a good phone based on the pictures i saw on the internet and all the videos. But.. it changed everything i had previously thought of trophy until i played it in verizon store. The build quality was excellent, and it looks slim in person than on youtube videos. There was this annoying thing on real wp7 devices. I tried the keyboard, and the typing sound was tad lagging. On my Hd2, that was not the case. Not sure if that was the model defect but Aaron from phonedog also claimed the same thing. Also, the homescreen scrolling physics was really different than my HD2. It's actually harder to scroll down on the Trophy and Focus and sometimes i mispress the wrong tiles or it goes to the right side of the screen that is filled with apps. Anyone else had these issues with real wp7 devices?

The sound lag? Yes. The scrolling issue? Nope. I'm on the HTC Arrive.

ms79723 said:
The sound lag? Yes. The scrolling issue? Nope. I'm on the HTC Arrive.
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see I find that funny because the sound doesn't lag on hd2. and the scrolling on homescreen is different as well.

Omnia 7
Sound lagg?: no, screen problems?:no. Omnia 7
The screens of all phones differ some. Just have to get used to it. My Omnia 7 screen behaves very diffrent compared to the HD2.
Also, in legit WP7 Device, scrolling have to stop 100% before i can tap any on my home screen. Though it seems that if i scroll insainly fast, i can activate the tiles.
But i mostly say that its somthing about screens and respons. Om my Omnia, i barly need to touch the screen. Compared 2 my HD2 its like light years of diff, sensitivity feels like a older wm device where i must press by force, if you catch my idea.

No sound lag or scrolling issues on my HD7 or my old HD2
I agree with the above though when saying the HD2 feels like an older device, When i put the DFT release on my old HD2 i found that the screen needs to be touched more firmly when being used to scroll etc....as opposed to the HD7 where only the lightest touch is needed. (dont get me wrong though, in my eyes the HD2 has run WP7 very smoothly and seems to be more than capable.)
Regards,
Creamy

Yea screen sensitivity on hd2 isn't that good. I was wondering if someone bought trophy and have sound lag issue when typing. But I didn't know how crappy and big the screen is on hd2 when I compared it with the trophy. I was really close to buy trophy but knowing Nokia mango phone is just around the corner I postponed my purchase ..

Nope, no sound lag on mine, the scrolling thing works ok but if you scroll slow then you'd have to wait for it to stop, otherwise you'd have to tap twice to stop the scrolling and open the tile.
Using a vodafone HTC Trophy with no hacks, no mods, no nothing. Its still a virgin device. I can even do a video if you want. Or maybe its just the verizon Trophys that has this problem. They changed some minor stuff to it compared to the original Trophy.

Scrolling works flawlessly. Don't know about lag, because i turned the "typing sound" off
(imho, it's annoying and very impractical in daily usage-public transportation, meetings etc.).
Trophy

Re- Build Quality:
I thought the same thing with the HTC Arrive. It looked cheap in the pictures, but once I got my hands on it, I could tell that good materials were used, and that it was a well constructed device.

Sound lag: no
Scroll problems: no
LG Quantum
However with the scroll pysics in general, I find that the homescreen doesn't go as fast as your finger does. I mean like if in real life, you scrolled something, it would go as fast as your spun it. But the scroll speed tops out, nothing huge just throws me off a bit sometimes.

sure haven't said:
Sound lag: no
Scroll problems: no
LG Quantum
However with the scroll pysics in general, I find that the homescreen doesn't go as fast as your finger does. I mean like if in real life, you scrolled something, it would go as fast as your spun it. But the scroll speed tops out, nothing huge just throws me off a bit sometimes.
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Yea i wish the scrolling was tad faster on the homescreen because when i slide it to the right to get to the apps, the scrolling there was much faster and easy to scroll.

On my Trophy since Nov/Dec and no lag scrolling or sound wise.

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Things i hate about the HTC Desire

I really miss a few features on my HTC Hero. Sadly it seems like the Hero was much more userfriendly when it comes to hardware design choices.
1. PenTile Matrix Display freaks me out. I can see the rough edges very easily. Makes my eyes having problems with focusing because the edges seem blurry. I have read a lot about this problem prior to getting an Desire so i shouldn't complain. Still it's much more visible than some people try to make it sound. Especially in white text/ black background.
2. Hardware Buttons: Call Buttons...yeah everybody can see that the Desire doesn't have those, and that's not my main gripe. My MAIN problem is that i can't wake this damn screen with ANY other button than the POWER Button, which happens to be positioned at the most uncomfortable position available. It was so much more user friendly on the Hero where i can wake and unlock the screen by two hardware buttons at the bottom.
3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
4. trackpad: the trackwheel for the hero was more precise.
5. color saturation. welcome to the candy land! Reds and orange colors burn into your eyes. some people like that.
6. it killed my microsd card...well ok i don't know if this is the desires fault but still: suddenly my sd card was shown as faulty. On the PC is works without any problems, but i had to format it in order to use it with the desire.
Of course there are some good things too, like the speed. The desire is really fast, but not THAT much faster than the Milestone. And the overall built quality is great.
Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)
according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
well i'm sort of used with the "power button to wake the device" since i had a winmo device before the desire, so i don't really see it as a bad thing
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according to your point nr 6. did you always safety remove it after plugging in to the PC ?
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i'm using windows 7 64bit and never did that, my sd card was show as faulty once so i powered off the phone took out the card, putted in my pc and saw that everything was working fine, putted it again in the phone and never had a problem again.
EddyOS said:
Everything you mention is why I LOVE my Desire - vibrant colours, awesome screen, optical pad instead of ball which only ends up breaking/getting clogged with dust...can't fault it IMO (except the Market, it is a bit slow but meh)
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awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.
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no, and actually i believe this was the problem. I only unmounted the sd card using the desire/hero, but never ejected the card on windows prior to that. Just recently i found out that i have to eject the card via windows before unmounting it.
#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
#4
More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.
Shahpur.Azizpour said:
awesome screen? Have you seen the Motorola Droid live?
About the colors, they are not reproduced correctly as many tests have proven. But i already said that this is also a personal preference.
But the bad resolution quality (comapred to the droid) of the PenTile Matrix display is not a matter of preference, because nobody would prefer the PenTile concept compared to the usual RGB per Pixel approach.
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I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!
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I've not seen the Droid, nor do I want to. Motorola phones are some of the WORST I've ever had the pleasure (or not) to use. I've no issues with the Desire's screen and bar the slight pink issue I can't fault it.
As said, this is all personal opinion but putting a thread about why you hate a device in the forum where people who love it frequent is asking to get flamed!!
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He only hates a few parts of it, not the whole thing, what's wrong with that?
I agree on most points, though this is my first android phone. The first thing I noticed when I turned it on was the jagged line thing because of the pentile display, its no way near as nice looking as a display should be with that ppi. It kind of defeats the point of a hi res screen.
But other than that and the fact that sense sucks compared to stock ui, I love this phone
I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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lol you will have it as it's impossible to not. Its easiest to notice on the edge of each key on the keyboard. You can quite clearly see the individual pixels, which you shouldn't really see on a high res screen
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I must either not have this jagged line or not noticed it but I have no idea what you're on about!
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your eyes probably don't notice it, which is actually very good in this case.
Sadly my eagle eyes can see it very clearly. I just have to wait a few year, then i won't see the problems either.
But believe me the Motorola Milestone Display is just better by a huge margin. I had a testdevice for my blog for about 2 months, and the display is fantastic.
samac92 is completely right, when he says that the pentile technology defeats the point of having a (pseudo) WVGA resolution. If you ever have the chance to compare the Motorola droid vs. Desire display, do it. The difference is huge, because the droid has real WVGA resolution as every pixel has RGB color informations, while pentile pixel only have two color informations per pixel.
I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??
#1: i was hoping that the pentile problem wasn't as bad. But sadly it is quite bad indeed.
#2 i don't need call buttons at any cost, i need hardware buttons at the bottom of the device (don't care if its a call button or any other button) which can wake up the screen, and put it so sleep mode. I don't want to reach out to the power button every time, as this is not a natural movement when holding the device with one hand.
Also redialing using the "start call" button was very comfortable as you would directly open the dialer app. It's quicker than having to use a shortcut app on the homescreen imho.
#3 not the download itself is slower. but the time that passes until the download starts. There are time where i have to wait for 3-4 minutes until the download starts. Having a good downstream is great, but on my hero i have the app installed before the download starts on the desire on some occasions.
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#1
You say I shouldn't complain... then don't I don't have any problems with my eyes.
#2
Why would you need call buttons? My screen turns on as soon as I pull it from my ear (proximity sensor) quite easy to touch the big red bar then isn't it?
#3
My market doesn't appear to be any slower, and download is only improved, I have a 20 mbit connection and with my hero on wifi I would max get 500kb/s
The desire reaches full connection speed @ 1500kb/s so download from market is a lot faster.
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More precise but it got dirty very quick, mine even changed color from white to yellowish (maybe I should stop smoking) but not only nicotine sticks to it. Everything sticks to it.
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I've got perfect 20/20 vision, I just probably haven't looked close enough tbh - a slightly jagged keyboard really doesn't bother me. Coming from the HD2 with it's huge (but washed out) screen this is a god send and easily the best phone I've had...and I've had a lot!!
No doubt something else will come out in future but for now I honestly have no issues with the Desire. If I did I'd be rid of it
Plus, the Milestone is a HORRID looking phone...nothing new there, eh Moto??
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you are right, the HD2 was somehow blurry and washed out.
The sad thing is that i don't have to look close to see the rough edges on the desire display. i can see it very easily.
But you really miss out on the milestone display, you don't have to wait for future devices to blow out the desires display out of the water. After seeing that milestone magic, the desire display is just no contest anymore. I would have opted for the milestone, but other than the display the desire just has much better hardware specs like RAM and CPU. i also like sense.
And the milestone doesn't have the new launcher style of the N1 after the 2.1 update, but still the plain old boring android 1.x launcher.
I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!
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I wouldn't be caught dead with the Milestone - every review I've read has said it's crap and a screen just isn't enough to have a phone I'm afraid...
Desire FTW!!
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hmm very interesting as nearly all known media like engadget and gizmodo as well as all big media in germany really praised this device.
I praised it on my blog review too. And i'm definetly not preferring motorola usually. I'm a HTC fan starting from MDA Compact (HTC Magician) days a decade ago.
The Milestone was the first real killer Android device which sold some impressing numbers. Of course the HTC Hero wasn't bad either, but it didn't have the impact that the droid/milestine had.
Well I've just looked long and hard at the keyboard and I can't see any individual pixels.
But I am 40, so that might be another benefit of getting older.
It was the very first thing I noticed on the Desire, even though it took me a while to find what it was. I don't think good or bad eyesight has anything to do with us noticing or not noticing the PenTile issue. I also see issues on HD tv's and expensive HD Projectors, that no one else sees. And no, my vision is far from perfect. I don't wear glasses, but other than that, my sight is average at the most. So I guess it has to do with how your brain process the visual input. Oh, and I am over 40 too
3. Android Market is SLOW: Why is the Android market like 500 times slower to start a download than my old hero?
Download appbrain from the market then you can use the appbrain.com site for apps then sync to your phone from your pc.
That site is faster to use than the market place

[Q] AT&T Best WP7: Surround, Focus, Quantum

Hi. I am sorry if somebody already asked this, but I couldn't find it.
Which one is the best AT&T WP7: Surround, Focus, Quantum?
I am almost sure Focus is the best option. Please shed some light here! Thanks!
It all depends on what you want from a phone. The LG has a full keyboard, The Surround has a sliding speaker system and the Focus would be your average modern smart phone. Personally I chose the Focus because of the 4" amoled display and expandable storage.
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Personally I chose the Focus because of the 4" amoled display and expandable storage.
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The same for me and its size.
If it's WP7, then none, at least right now.
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If it's WP7, then none, at least right now.
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if you're going to post something... at least answer his question. in your opinion it might not be worth buying, but for the many that have, the large majority are happy with it.
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If it's WP7, then none, at least right now.
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I love my focus its OS makes the rest look old and dated.
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I love my focus its OS makes the rest look old and dated.
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I totaly agree the focus is the way to go i have 40 gb storage and the os is so much smoother than the rest and the interface makes ios and android look very old. I compaired my focus to my sons iphione4 last night and the iphone 4 side by side was no comparrison from the apps, to the lock screen, intergration, to the homescreen. or even something as simple as answering or rejecting a call from the lockscreen... since people are always complaing about what should be in a os in these days being able to reject a call from lockscreen is one of the most basic and til this day ios still cannot do it... I never heard anyone complaining about this??
I bought the Surround. It was more of personal preference about the look and feel of the device. To me, the Surround looked and felt better.. i liked the soft touch back and the solid heavy feel, and really consider the speaker as just a bonus feature as it only adds 1mm of thickness compared to the identical HTC Trophy. The Focus' Super AMOLED screen was amazing, but I didnt like the glossy plastic look. Its all personal preference and what you are looking for in a phone.
I'd agree with Ren13B. If you need a work phone and plan to write 50+ emails (or you are a teenager and need to send 100+ texts) a day, LG would be a better buy for the keyboard.
If you need a better speakerphone or speakers and don't mind a little bulk, Surround is the one. Also, I have seen Surround going for less at Amazon and Newegg so that's another reason.
For everything else, Focus seems to be the best fit.
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I'd agree with Ren13B. If you need a work phone and plan to write 50+ emails (or you are a teenager and need to send 100+ texts) a day, LG would be a better buy for the keyboard.
If you need a better speakerphone or speakers and don't mind a little bulk, Surround is the one. Also, I have seen Surround going for less at Amazon and Newegg so that's another reason.
For everything else, Focus seems to be the best fit.
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that would be a true statement if this was the keyboard of wimdows 6.5 or anything less than wp7 the on screen keyboard is simply unbleavable with its auto correct feature and a 4inch screen you can type as fast if not faster that any hw keyboard... it works that well...
Chose Focus due to memory expansion, screen, and size/quality.
It is interesting to note that, unlike iMapple, the WP7 seems to all have great reception. Have noticed the Samsung Focus has better cell reception than the HTC Fuze and various other HTC/Motorola phones from the past.
I went with the surround. NOTE: I did come from a Samsung Captivate
I went with the surround because:
-better build quality
-nice speaker
-kickstand is nice to have when watching netflix (lol)
-I like HTC over samsung
-Samsung focus felt too flimsy and cheap for me
-Samsung scared me after some of the issues of the captivate (im sure samsung and windows did a better job on the focus, this is just how i feel)
on the other hand though,
SAMOLED is nice, and I do miss, but at the same time the LCD of the Surround is good, but the main thing you are missing is not screen quality, but battery life. I havent had a chance to put my battery to the test, but im sure SAMOLED will trump the HTCs LCD.
The "best" on, of course, depends on what you want from your phone. Personally, I've been burned by lousy hardware from HTC and LG before (several times) and I'm a big Slingplayer user so the large screen, light weight and slim design of the Samsung Focus appealed to me. The other two have are stronger in other areas. Check the specs of each and/or go play with them at an AT&T and decide for yourself.
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I went with the surround. NOTE: I did come from a Samsung Captivate
I went with the surround because:
-better build quality
-nice speaker
-kickstand is nice to have when watching netflix (lol)
-I like HTC over samsung
-Samsung focus felt too flimsy and cheap for me
-Samsung scared me after some of the issues of the captivate (im sure samsung and windows did a better job on the focus, this is just how i feel)
on the other hand though,
SAMOLED is nice, and I do miss, but at the same time the LCD of the Surround is good, but the main thing you are missing is not screen quality, but battery life. I havent had a chance to put my battery to the test, but im sure SAMOLED will trump the HTCs LCD.
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Buyer's remorse no more, check out this page from anandtech:
anandtech.com/show/3982/windows-phone-7-review/28
rruffman said:
that would be a true statement if this was the keyboard of wimdows 6.5 or anything less than wp7 the on screen keyboard is simply unbleavable with its auto correct feature and a 4inch screen you can type as fast if not faster that any hw keyboard... it works that well...
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I don't know if the kb on the 4" Focus screen will make a significant difference or not, I can say I type faster hands down on my Fuze than my iPhone, which according to some have the best on-screen kb.
I have seen videos of people typing insanely fast on iPhone but I think they'd be even faster on a good h/w keyboard like Fuze.
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Buyer's remorse no more, check out this page from anandtech:
anandtech.com/show/3982/windows-phone-7-review/28
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For long sessions of browsing webpages with white background or emails, there is no doubt AMOLED screen of Focus will drain the battery faster. I wonder if there will be a way in future to change the background/foreground of the browser / email client inWP7.

Bought a galaxy s II… comparison to my EVO 3D

So I added another line to my account yesterday. Decided (with the 14 day trial period in mind) to try out samsung’s “epic 4G touch” or the galaxy s II as people call it.
First of all, I will say that I went into this with an unbiased motive. I love my evo 3D, but I am always open minded and the fact that my last Samsung phone was terrible (Samsung moment) will have nothing to do with this review. There are pros and cons to any mobile device. There are pros and cons to my 3D. That being said… here is my analysis.
Display – first of all, I will say that the galaxy s II absolutely trumps the evo 3D in the color department on the display. Simply beautiful vibrant colors no matter what you have on the screen. I was immediately impressed by this. Pictures, HD wallpapers, side by side I could see a huge difference in the evo and the sgs2. The touch screen responsiveness, however, was a different story. I was almost annoyed by the sgs2’s inferior responsiveness compared to the 3D. The evo would respond to the slightest tap or flick on the screen whereas the sgs2 required considerably more effort to get the point across to the UI. This was especially obnoxious when texting and trying to quickly back out of the messaging app after hitting send. The evo responds to every touch, and does so immediately, without delay.
UI – a lot of people knock the sense UI. One thing I realized when comparing the two was the evo’s UI is very simple and straight forward/easy to manipulate. I hated touchwiz and the stock launcher as soon as I began to interact with it. I immediately installed zeam launcher to get rid of the obnoxious “iphone look and feel” of the Stock Sammy launcher. I do, however, ABSOLUTELY LOVE the way Samsung implemented the messaging application with the lock screen – simple, straight forward, and very logical. One thing that really annoys me with the sense UI is when you receive a message from anybody and navigate from the lock screen to your messages, it just takes you to your inbox, rather than the actual message. The sgs2 is very efficient for heavy texters such as myself – unlock the phone, bam you are right there reading the entire message. I find the lock screen a little annoying sometimes, however, when simply wanting to unlock the device. I don’t understand why it is necessary to slide the entire lockscreen image off the screen. Sense is better at this. Several times I have had to flick a couple times to unlock the phone. Whereas the “lockring” style of sense is again more simple and straight forward. Also, there is some delay when putting the device (sgs2) to sleep and waking it up. I simply find that annoying and think this should be a simple on and off process. The evo, again, more responsive and simplified with this basic function. And I like having custom shortcuts on my lock screen… which the sgs2 UI does not offer. Overall I would say the two were about even for me… good pros to both, and significant cons to both (for my needs).
Camera and other hardware – the video quality on the sgs2 was better than the evo, not by much, but better. The 1080p video recording was very nice looking on the display and had better quality/color overall when I viewed them on the computer. Last night when I was talking to my fiancé on the phone she said she could hear some static noise. It was faint at first but got louder on her end, I couldn’t hear it, but I called her on my evo and it went away immediately. Seems the microphone isn’t up to par with the 3D’s.
The big one…. POWER CONSUMPTION – so here I am on 6 hours 33 minutes of moderately heavy use with the sgs2 (about 100 or so text messages, a couple phone calls, and a little bit of web browsing, plus the tinkering and fidgeting with the phone that we all do when we are bored, lol.) and I am looking at a battery depleted to 70% remaining… I also work in a location where signal strength isn’t very strong, and 4G is nowhere to be found, but I have to say that I was expecting less. The phone is very efficient when it comes to utilizing power. I am pretty confident that by the end of the night I will still have a little bit left over. To be perfectly honest, it would be hard to get an accurate comparison of the evo’s battery drain because since a few days after I bought it I had the seido “brick battery” in it lol. Maybe somebody else can chime in on how their 3D is doing on a stock battery under similar conditions (with no undervolting, or overclocking… as my phone is 100% stock right now).
Going back to the display, again, I think the evo’s screen size is optimal for me. The sgs2 seems a little too wide when holding it and trying to reach the keys to send a message. Also, the stock keyboard is terrible on the sgs2. But I have always used smartkeyboard pro anyways, so it didn’t effect me, just something I noticed. The buttons were annoyingly tiny and spaced too far… I felt like I was typing on an iphone (oh em gee ***t hits fan nowz)… i suppose that bit about the KB could have been included in the UI review, but oh well.
Software – I personally think sense 3.0 blows this thing out of the water in so many ways. I hate the slowness and bulkiness of the Samsung UI, there is no customization of the messaging app whatsoever, whereas sense you have a plethora of added features such as MMS size, secure box, message forwarding, integration with facebook, etc. The music player on the Samsung is way better, however, and the sound quality is mind boggling. I could not believe the difference between the two it was really night and day. Again, pros and cons to each. Overall, I find the sgs2 to be a lot slower than the evo when it comes to responsiveness and overall tasking. Also, I find that my 3G cuts out and the phone roams a little bit more when I am at work. My evo would rarely jump into roaming mode even in areas where signal was not as strong. Also, my 4G seems to be slower by about 250 kb/s on average, I have not seen the phone download any faster than 1 mb/s as of yet. My evo does this on a regular basis.
Overall, I would have to say that both are good, but key elements in the UI make the evo a better choice for me. I HATE lag and unresponsiveness. The sgs2 lags incessantly when using the home, back, and menu keys on the bottom of the phone. That lag is relayed to tasks you are wanting to execute such as backing out of your emails or messages quickly. I am not the type to take my time when exiting applications, so my phone should be able to keep up. The evo is instantly responding to commands executed via the soft keys on the phone. I am constantly hitting the back key more than necessary to close out of my messages. It is annoying.
Again, overall, the sgs2 has some nice hardware. The camera is absolutely astounding and the screen (although a little too big, even for me) has an amazingly colorful and brilliant display. Difference is night and day between the two. And I am actually impressed with the sgs2’s power consumption. As I said, despite the large colorful screen, inch for inch, I get the feeling it sucks a little less juice than the evo simply due to how much I have been using it and where the battery level is right now.
As of right now, I think I would take the evo and just live with the smaller, less colorful display.
There it is in a nutshell.
nice. I have wanted to trade my EVO 3D for a Galaxy S2 and some cash. when I opened a Sprint account the EVO 3D barely came out.
cobraboy85 said:
So I added another line to my account yesterday. Decided (with the 14 day trial period in mind) to try out samsung’s “epic 4G touch” or the galaxy s II as people call it.
First of all, I will say that I went into this with an unbiased motive. I love my evo 3D, but I am always open minded and the fact that my last Samsung phone was terrible (Samsung moment) will have nothing to do with this review. There are pros and cons to any mobile device. There are pros and cons to my 3D. That being said… here is my analysis.
Display – first of all, I will say that the galaxy s II absolutely trumps the evo 3D in the color department on the display. Simply beautiful vibrant colors no matter what you have on the screen. I was immediately impressed by this. Pictures, HD wallpapers, side by side I could see a huge difference in the evo and the sgs2. The touch screen responsiveness, however, was a different story. I was almost annoyed by the sgs2’s inferior responsiveness compared to the 3D. The evo would respond to the slightest tap or flick on the screen whereas the sgs2 required considerably more effort to get the point across to the UI. This was especially obnoxious when texting and trying to quickly back out of the messaging app after hitting send. The evo responds to every touch, and does so immediately, without delay.
UI – a lot of people knock the sense UI. One thing I realized when comparing the two was the evo’s UI is very simple and straight forward/easy to manipulate. I hated touchwiz and the stock launcher as soon as I began to interact with it. I immediately installed zeam launcher to get rid of the obnoxious “iphone look and feel” of the Stock Sammy launcher. I do, however, ABSOLUTELY LOVE the way Samsung implemented the messaging application with the lock screen – simple, straight forward, and very logical. One thing that really annoys me with the sense UI is when you receive a message from anybody and navigate from the lock screen to your messages, it just takes you to your inbox, rather than the actual message. The sgs2 is very efficient for heavy texters such as myself – unlock the phone, bam you are right there reading the entire message. I find the lock screen a little annoying sometimes, however, when simply wanting to unlock the device. I don’t understand why it is necessary to slide the entire lockscreen image off the screen. Sense is better at this. Several times I have had to flick a couple times to unlock the phone. Whereas the “lockring” style of sense is again more simple and straight forward. Also, there is some delay when putting the device (sgs2) to sleep and waking it up. I simply find that annoying and think this should be a simple on and off process. The evo, again, more responsive and simplified with this basic function. And I like having custom shortcuts on my lock screen… which the sgs2 UI does not offer. Overall I would say the two were about even for me… good pros to both, and significant cons to both (for my needs).
Camera and other hardware – the video quality on the sgs2 was better than the evo, not by much, but better. The 1080p video recording was very nice looking on the display and had better quality/color overall when I viewed them on the computer. Last night when I was talking to my fiancé on the phone she said she could hear some static noise. It was faint at first but got louder on her end, I couldn’t hear it, but I called her on my evo and it went away immediately. Seems the microphone isn’t up to par with the 3D’s.
The big one…. POWER CONSUMPTION – so here I am on 6 hours 33 minutes of moderately heavy use with the sgs2 (about 100 or so text messages, a couple phone calls, and a little bit of web browsing, plus the tinkering and fidgeting with the phone that we all do when we are bored, lol.) and I am looking at a battery depleted to 70% remaining… I also work in a location where signal strength isn’t very strong, and 4G is nowhere to be found, but I have to say that I was expecting less. The phone is very efficient when it comes to utilizing power. I am pretty confident that by the end of the night I will still have a little bit left over. To be perfectly honest, it would be hard to get an accurate comparison of the evo’s battery drain because since a few days after I bought it I had the seido “brick battery” in it lol. Maybe somebody else can chime in on how their 3D is doing on a stock battery under similar conditions (with no undervolting, or overclocking… as my phone is 100% stock right now).
Going back to the display, again, I think the evo’s screen size is optimal for me. The sgs2 seems a little too wide when holding it and trying to reach the keys to send a message. Also, the stock keyboard is terrible on the sgs2. But I have always used smartkeyboard pro anyways, so it didn’t effect me, just something I noticed. The buttons were annoyingly tiny and spaced too far… I felt like I was typing on an iphone (oh em gee ***t hits fan nowz)… i suppose that bit about the KB could have been included in the UI review, but oh well.
Software – I personally think sense 3.0 blows this thing out of the water in so many ways. I hate the slowness and bulkiness of the Samsung UI, there is no customization of the messaging app whatsoever, whereas sense you have a plethora of added features such as MMS size, secure box, message forwarding, integration with facebook, etc. The music player on the Samsung is way better, however, and the sound quality is mind boggling. I could not believe the difference between the two it was really night and day. Again, pros and cons to each. Overall, I find the sgs2 to be a lot slower than the evo when it comes to responsiveness and overall tasking. Also, I find that my 3G cuts out and the phone roams a little bit more when I am at work. My evo would rarely jump into roaming mode even in areas where signal was not as strong. Also, my 4G seems to be slower by about 250 kb/s on average, I have not seen the phone download any faster than 1 mb/s as of yet. My evo does this on a regular basis.
Overall, I would have to say that both are good, but key elements in the UI make the evo a better choice for me. I HATE lag and unresponsiveness. The sgs2 lags incessantly when using the home, back, and menu keys on the bottom of the phone. That lag is relayed to tasks you are wanting to execute such as backing out of your emails or messages quickly. I am not the type to take my time when exiting applications, so my phone should be able to keep up. The evo is instantly responding to commands executed via the soft keys on the phone. I am constantly hitting the back key more than necessary to close out of my messages. It is annoying.
Again, overall, the sgs2 has some nice hardware. The camera is absolutely astounding and the screen (although a little too big, even for me) has an amazingly colorful and brilliant display. Difference is night and day between the two. And I am actually impressed with the sgs2’s power consumption. As I said, despite the large colorful screen, inch for inch, I get the feeling it sucks a little less juice than the evo simply due to how much I have been using it and where the battery level is right now.
As of right now, I think I would take the evo and just live with the smaller, less colorful display.
There it is in a nutshell.
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You should try the international version of the gs2
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Does SGS2 lag at all?
Except the design lag to enable double tap feature of Vlingo, I don't think there is a UI lag...
Just read you picked the sprint version, possible with the Qualcomm QoC.
Does the sprint version use the tegra chip set? And the issue is never the processors....
yumadtho?
Also... approaching the 10 hour mark... still pretty moderate to heavy use and at 51% ... I am impressed by the power consumption. Not too many droid phones get you to that 15 hour mark with this kind of use. This one has done exceptionally well for a full day
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Well I've never experienced lag on my sgs 2. Frankly I hate sense because it is too slow for me. That's the reason why I opted for the sgs 2 instead of the sensation. Moreover your opinion of it being slower than a evo 3d or sensation is not found in any reviews, and in fact the opposite is stated. But I guess your experience was different so oh well.
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How does it say the sense UI is slower? My overall opinion is that the sgs2 isn't up to par as far as UI. and this thread is not about the sensation... I clearly stated that the sgs2 feels as boring and dull and slow as an iphone... with the same terrible "cartoon like" look.
yumadtho?
Yeah, I think he just misunderstood you. No reason to get mad, they are both great phones.
yumadtho???
Thanks for the comparison
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Liked ur first impression. For me. It's def evo 3d<photon<epic touch 4g.
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Lag? I dont get it you may have to spend a little more time with the phone. TW4 is pretty good,smooth and fast as far as Im concerned. Ive been using Samsungs for along time so maybe Im just use to them but there is no lagging on mine
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Does the sprint version use the tegra chip set? And the issue is never the processors....
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Nope, the Epic Touch has the same exynos that's in the international version. I too never experienced any lag, I think you might've gotten a lemon. I do agree that sense's lockscreen is awesome and sense 3.0 has more usable widgets than touchwiz. I put go launcher and agile lock on mine so it'll be a lot more customizable. You should try it too if you dislike touchwiz.
U have to be kidding right? My phone has never lagged at all. I have the evo 3d, photon, and iPhone 4. Each phone is great but I found the e4gt to be the fastest out of my Android devices.
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U have to be kidding right? My phone has never lagged at all. I have the evo 3d, photon, and iPhone 4. Each phone is great but I found the e4gt to be the fastest out of my Android devices.
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Agree...
I been on the Evo 3D and the Photon. In order from Good to Worst I say GS2 > Photon > Evo3D
Between the Epic Touch and Evo 3D I say the Epic Touch wins at Display + Camera + Back Speaker + CPU + Screen Size
Evo 3D wins at Radios *Wifi/3G/4G/Voice* and at UI *Sense*
So in the end, im on EpicTouch till the next best thing comes out.
PS. My phone has no lag either. Also forgot to mention the Hardware Acceleration on the stock browser also kills the stock browser on the 3D
Isn't touchwiz the only launcher that's hardware accelerated? I've never seen any ui lag...
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Thanks for this review im coming from evo 3d and i got bored of mine so i wanna get the epic touch 4g and gonna get tmobile version to at the same time just wish tmobile had true unlimited becuase there fast here even more stable then wimax for sure
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Liked ur first impression. For me. It's def evo 3d<photon<epic touch 4g.
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You got to be kidding. They say anyone can have an opinion and it is just that, but I need to tell you this....Your opinion is totally wrong, lol

What a boring Sunday, I'ma make a long post to kill time.

I'm gonna talk about my one week+ old HOX, and like always, I have a lot to say.
To start with, my last phone was the Omnia II, and it was a piece of ****. I had no idea someone was capable of producing something so stupid I'm just totally shocked I mostly used it as a regular phone+music player. It sucked mainly because of the WM6.5 OS, its just funny how someone could even sell such a thing and call it a smartphone. Firstly the performance sucks and it's obvious, nothing goes beyond 10fps in WM6.5, you'd be lucky to get over 5. The music player playlist scrolls at about 3fps, the keyboard has a half second to one second lag, the browser runs at about 0.8fps, it is a full featured browser but you can barely browse the most plain mobile sites. With performance like this, multitasking can kiss my ass, how about get any single task done right before you can multitask? That resistive touchscreen also sucked, I was stupid I didn't do enough research to know the difference. Why would you have a phone screen that is NOT covered with glass? Why? Ignoring the obvious hardness differences, it sucks when those reflections on my screen are distorted, I wanna see a perfect mirror reflection, I'm a perfectionist ok? And of course there are about three apps for WM. I know there are more but they look like windows 95 and has tiny ui elements designed for styluses so they don't count. And those ones that look like windows XP or with lame 3d themes, SPB shell or some ****, those don't count as well.
Look at iPhone! That's how it should be done, everything must be perfectly smooth period. If its not smooth it's not even worth mentioning I don't care how many features you have. iPhone 4 really kicked android in the ass with that retina display. I still don't get it, even today people are releasing phones with this "qHD" resolution, wtf? That's just laughable it's lower than a phone released two years ago! With a much smaller screen! Really? Who's gonna accept that? Sometimes they even call it their "flagship" product, gimme a break. 720p is the minimum period.
So just a few weeks ago I was struggling to decide between the iPhone 4s, HOX the S3, and Sony's yet to be released waterproof 1.5ghz dual core phone. I can't wait for the Sony because iPhone 5 is coming out by the time they release it so that's out of the question. I already have the iPad so I decided to try out an android phone, already got a taste of iOS. I picked the HOX and here is why.
The Galaxy S III isn't as good looking as the HOX to begein with. Maybe Samsung has been having too many problems with patents their design is severely compromised it looks like a really cheap phone but obviously with latest technologies like that screen and its thickness. That bottom part looks really bad it reminds me of a really ugly version of the Omnia II, it looks so 2006 if you unrest and what I mean. That top part also look really bad with those obvious holes for sensors and cameras, they should be hidden like on the HOX. The back side and the rim also look like a very cheep phone but thinner and bigger.
The galaxy s3 screen is also bigger I think, but with the same resolution which makes its bigger size a negative fetus because it's harder to use. Oh wait, in fact it's of a lower resolution because of that pentile ****, it only has 2/3 the number of sub pixels as the HOX. The amoled display is vibrant but that's not equivalent to good because it's too vibrant and the colors are inaccurate. Take a look at a professional display review of the s3 all three primaries are way off they are over saturated. White balance is non existent it's too blue and sometimes green it hurts my eyes. The amoled display is also far dimmer than the HOX, doesn't bother me much but it's also a down point.
The S3 is slightly faster and has a bigger battery. But the Sense UI also look better and no I'm not a fan of flashing ROMs anymore. Honestly I don't give a **** about performance as long as it's smooth I'm happy, and I don't play 3d games at all. I saw this review concluding the s3 has a mich much battery life, I don't know what to say about their stupidity, it must have been tough finding someone to do that video review with a straight face. They test battery life by playing a video that's basically a static image, on max screen brightness. Ok to start with, the HOX has a much brighter screen, in fact, 60% brighter if I remember correctly. So the HOX shouldn't be competing on max brightness. It should be on 60%. Secondly that S3 has a freakin amoled display how can you compare that with an LCD? That stupid video they use is mostly dark blue with a small rainbow so the total display output of an oled display displaying that image is probably less than 33%. So, we should have the HOX's screen brightness decreased by another 66% down to 20% max brightness to be fair. Or, we should have a video with realistic scenarios like full white google home pages. But of course, the s3 with a bigger battery and it's more advanced processor is probably better on battery life in any case, just not by THAT much.
But that battery life advantage doesn't nearly compare with the HOX's much better looking unibody and its solid feel. HOX's better camera quality and speed. HOX's studio quality display, I just wish that display is 10-bit, cuz sometimes you see banding. Beats Audio is mostly advertising but it's not a bad addition.
However, using the HOX for a week, I found a couple of problems with android phones. For example, they're never ashamed of releasing unfinished products are they? How come LWP pauses when I swipe between home screens? Wtf is that all about? Releasing a feature that's partly or completely useless? It's not too bothering on non-parallax and slow LWPs, but that's not the best part of having a LWP is it? That's a big one but there are also some small ones like the photo stack widget, it resets to the first picture all the time. I can't uninstall useless ****s like google+, showme, latitude, local, locations, navigation, car.... I mean do we not have enough navigation apps already? I don't even think you can uninstall the setup wizard. In iOS you can't uninstall newsstand or reminder but at least you can hide them in a folder and their icons look really good, much better than "show me" at least. The system also doesn't come with a file manager, I wonder how youre supposed to empty your download folder, do you just let it eat up all your storage? And oh, the three dots of death, not too bothering, but it just leaves you thinking if HTC even test their phone, might as well just not have any of the touch buttons so I can feel lest wasteful?
and honestly, I don't like android's multitask system, because you don't know what's running and what's not running. In iOS you always know nothing is running, you don't worry about battery life. But in android they could all be running for all I know, but sometimes I also want an app to run in the background. There should be a better way to manage that. Like having a multitask bar like iOS, have most apps go on save state, but you can allow certain apps to run a background process which could be independently managed from save state. So I don't have to either kill an app or let it eat my battery.
Overall, I'm still really satisfied with the device. It's generally as smooth as the iPhone, browser performance is on par with the iPad2 which is good enough. Audio performance is also good with my Etymotic Research MC-5. And the screen is just a treat sometimes I press the power button just to see the beautiful screen showing my wallpaper. And the unibody, it feels much better than the S3 glossy plastic.
thx for this objective review
all ur info r 100% spot on
enjoy the hox, upcoming update that we have it leaked will solve the 3dot menu and 90% if the bugs also boost performance by a good margin (real performance not benchs)
yea too bad HTC made a very big mistake
they worked so hard for such a great device and total reboot for them but then shot themselves in the foot by rushing it out as they were worried about the s3 but it really had the opposite effect many of the early new comer adopters jumped ship (1.26 was a disaster)
speaking of the s3 my employer shares all ur points and he is dying to switch it with the hox
starting from ICS you can disable system apps (not all but most of them, maps and google+ for sure for example, and they bother you... like they bother me, lol)
just dont update them and from application's settings tap "disable" and they'll disappear from launcher (i guess it just "chmod -r" the apk), you dont have to be rooted for that
i've picked mine yesterday, used and bought 06-29 but the owner wanted to try the S3 and payed it a good price... it's awesome, no wifi issues of yellowish screen.
so far i'm really entusiastic...
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But of course, the s3 with a bigger battery and it's more advanced processor is probably better on battery life in any case, just not by THAT much.
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Great write up. And your bottom line conclusion's spot on. No phone is perfect. You compare the good against the bad against what's important to you and decide from there. No one's "wrong" in picking any of the phones you mentioned if it's "right" for them. After using the phone for a couple of months now there are some things that I'd like to see done differently and make me wonder what HTC was thinking. Then there's things that are so well done and seem so intuitive that they just make me smile. I just played a two hour and forty minute movie using HTC Watch via Media Link and not only did it work flawlessly in 720p, it only consumed 20% of my battery. The fact that a phone, any phone, can now do that is pretty amazing.
As for battery life. Exynos Quad is highly overrated; that or Teg3 is underrated. Comparing the One X to the SGS3 and adjusting for the differences in battery size, the One X actually performs better than the SGS3 in all but video playback where the darks of the content favor AMOLED. It's meaningless in real life because of the smaller fixed battery in the One X, but HTC, Nvidia, or both deserve a lot of credit for extracting that type of efficiency from a chip that's not exactly modern.
Enjoy your new phone...
But for some reason HTC decided you shouldn't be able to disable Google+ or show me, or setup wizard. While you can disable Facebook and YouTube.
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But for some reason HTC decided you shouldn't be able to disable Google+ or show me, or setup wizard. While you can disable Facebook and YouTube.
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Uninstall updates then you can disable.

First Impressions.

Surprise no one did a first impressions thread yet lol.
In here we give our first impressions of the phone so far like your opinion on the performance, screen, sound, camera, build quality, battery life etc.
First I'll like to say that the build quality is amazing. Coming from an epic 4G, I am not sure if my words have any strength but it just feels so nice. It looks very sexy as well. I can't stop staring at it lol.
This is the best screen I have ever seen. It is so sharp and detail in a way I would have never expected. I personally liked the over saturated colors on Samsung's amoled screens but this screen made me feel as if it was too cartoony looking now.
As for performance, I feel like reviewers gave me false expectations. Don't get me wrong, this is a super fast phone but people made it seemed like there would be no lag at all but I notice occasionally hiccups. Note that this is a minor complaint because for most of the time, this is a very smooth experience. The quadcore processor makes this phone a beast!
Battery life has surpassed my expectations. The standby time is great for me. I can use this phone heavily, stop using it and barely experience a drain. Eco mode helps and it charges fast as well.
I came from an Epic 4G so even the cons of the phone is a pro for me since everything is an upgrade. I have nothing but praise for this phone.
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Surprise no one did a first impressions thread yet lol.
In here we give our first impressions of the phone so far like your opinion on the performance, screen, sound, camera, build quality, battery life etc.
First I'll like to say that the build quality is amazing. Coming from an epic 4G, I am not sure if my words have any strength but it just feels so nice. It looks very sexy as well. I can't stop staring at it lol.
This is the best screen I have ever seen. It is so sharp and detail in a way I would have never expected. I personally liked the over saturated colors on Samsung's amoled screens but this screen made me feel as if it was too cartoony looking now.
As for performance, I feel like reviewers gave me false expectations. Don't get me wrong, this is a super fast phone but people made it seemed like there would be no lag at all but I notice occasionally hiccups. Note that this is a minor complaint because for most of the time, this is a very smooth experience. The quadcore processor makes this phone a beast!
Battery life has surpassed my expectations. The standby time is great for me. I can use this phone heavily, stop using it and barely experience a drain. Eco mode helps and it charges fast as well.
I came from an Epic 4G so even the cons of the phone is a pro for me since everything is an upgrade. I have nothing but praise for this phone.
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I agree with your statements. I also do notice small occasional hiccups which are most likely software related. Hopefully LG will address this in a future update or Jelly Bean release.
Camera is pretty much the only complaint I have about the phone. It's really disappointing. Another software issue that I hope LG will fix in the future.
I just played with one 10 minutes ago at the Sprint store and walked away thoroughly impressed. Loved the sleekness and the feel of the phone. Screen was amazing and the camera was awesome. The speed of the phone was blazing fast. Loved the phone. Looking forward to possibly owning one in the near future.
Beamed From My CM10 GS3
This is definitely one of the best phones available I love everything only things that could be better would be jb, aokp or cm10
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I see little bugs in lgs software sometimes but overall not issues whatsoever. My experience has been in line with everyone else as far as battery it just overheats too much. Im cool with keeping brightness at 31 but i shouldn't have to. I'm sure its the beasty processor i live with it but im hoping for an amazing jellybean ota update. Fingers crossed. .....
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I see little bugs in lgs software sometimes but overall not issues whatsoever. My experience has been in line with everyone else as far as battery it just overheats too much. Im cool with keeping brightness at 31 but i shouldn't have to. I'm sure its the beasty processor i live with it but im hoping for an amazing jellybean ota update. Fingers crossed. .....
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I am seeing small bugs here and there as well. Like the home screen animations "skips" sometimes when swiping through the screens.
Or the Music player list scrolling is pretty smooth and as soon as you play a song, it becomes choppy. What's up LG? A quad-core CPU can't handle playing music and scrolling through a list?
The Korean version is expected to get Jelly Bean next month so hopefully LG and Sprint and get their stuff together and give us the update quick.
I'm coming from the SGSII (ET4G). Off the back, the build quality of this phone is amazing. The phone is beautiful and it feels great in hands. Not that I ever really had any complaints about samsung but wow, now i REALLY feel the difference. Because of sleekness though I am alot more paranoid about dropping this phone. Going to order a case today for it. The display is also great. Although its taking some time to get used to (as far as colors). Performance wise, the phone is much faster than my rooted sgs2. I have noticed a hiccup here and there but its not enough to complain about. After getting official ICS on the SGS2, there were days I just wanted to throw that phone because all the ICS builds were so buggy and battery life was horrendous. So comparing to that, ICS on the LG is great and battery is far better than what I had so it's good for me. Camera wise, I am still playing with it. The photos are okay but not great. Although, has anyone tried the video camera? As far as video is concerned I am very pleased with what I am seeing. All this phone needs is some Jelly.
I'm getting a terrible batter life on mine...down to about 5% by the end of the day. I looked in the battery info and it says Android OS is at 66% for battery use. Anyone have any idea why?
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I'm getting a terrible batter life on mine...down to about 5% by the end of the day. I looked in the battery info and it says Android OS is at 66% for battery use. Anyone have any idea why?
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Android usage is also top battery drainer for me but supposedly this display is supposed to be pretty low power? The display on my 3D absolutely destroyed battery but I'm getting a lot longer out of this phone.
My opinions pretty much reflect everyone else's. This phone is simply amazing in every way. Huge props to LG on this thing. Sleek and professional design with superb build quality, matched with a high quality screen and a fairly loud speaker. Performance is always snappy, there are very minor stutters every once in a while but such is android. 95 percent of the time it is extremely fluid though. And I actually like LG's UI and the ease of quick memo, much better than Sense.
One thing I'd like to add that I don't think I've heard anyone say yet is that the audio quality is simply amazing. Sounds SO much clearer and natural compared to my Evo (using headphones obviously).
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I got mine Thursday on my lunch break. That particular one had a problem where I could hear myself in the phone. Not an echo like you get from time to time, but almost like it was going physically through the case of the phone. 24 hours later took it back and exchanged it. The one in the store DID NOT do this and neither does the exchanged one.
Coming from a S2 Epic 4g Touch, which feel off my kitchen table and busted the screen and having to go back to my Evo, this thing flies. I absolutly love the speed. I have not fully tested out what I need it to do, but so far, I have no complaints on the performance.
The things I do dislike. No swappable battery, but this seems to be going the way of the dodo bird anyway. Hopefully the battery consumption is, as great, as they say it is. I was also dissapointed in no SD card and the ringer is crazy quiet, especially when you lay it down with the speaker down. I have never had a phone be this quiet before and the speaker was on the back as well.
Great upgrade but...
I had the HTC EVO 3D last which eventually died on me. Two strips on the phone became unresponsive (had to use predictive texting all the time m ><) and the back camera failed so every time I switched the camera it would just flip the image.
LG Optimus G
PROS
Gorgeous screen
Incredibly fast
Lots of memory space
Light weight
Thin
Beautiful construction
High res camera
Nice software usability
Amazing contact profiles
Great social integration
CONS
Searching contacts takes a long time (it searches every field)
Large white space at the keypad which SHOULD contain most recent contacts
Most recent contacts is in the history tab, a second action to dial
Clicking a user after searching their name in the keypad pastes their phone number instead of auto dials
The home widget screens sometimes lag horribly and visibly refreshes each icon
Camera has a yellow tint
Camera has a blue tint with flash
Poor reception in Atlanta?
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You're in Atlanta, too? I've noticed, at least in my area, the only places I get 4G is when I'm in my car, on the road. Have only had the phone for a week, though, with not much traveling (just to and from work, and some shops in Edgewood and Ponce area).
My overall impression with this phone, coming from an EVO 4G, is that this thing is simply beautiful. The phone I originally purchased had color-banding issues as well as a slight backlight bleed on the top of the display (viewing a photo in fullscreen from the gallery app, without zooming, shows this bleed, I've noticed), so I took it back for a replacement. The replacement had an even worse backlight bleed in the same place. With some complaining and nagging at the store, I managed to get a second replacement which still has the backlight bleed and color-banding issue. I have since discovered that this is a manufacturing defect that exists on all Optimus G's, which is unfortunate, but I'm learning to live with it. The backlight bleed is easy to ignore, but the color-banding is very noticeable. A simple swipe down of the notifications panel will show the quick settings bar, which has a striped/banned effect on the gradient. Comparing this device's screen to others (SGSIII and iPhone 5) shows that this display is unique in this regard. Such a shame, considering all the great things about this phone.
Also, while the camera isn't flawless, it certainly isn't always trounced by Camera Zoom FX - For example, the other day I was in the coffee shop and took some sample shots with the stock camera that were too dark. Switching to Camera Zoom FX produced an over-exposed picture that wouldn't change exposure, despite metering in different areas of the viewfinder. This left me very confused. Hopefully the stock camera will be fixed (more or less) in the Jellybean Update due this December. I won't root until I get it. Haha
This phone is sex. The camera, although not always top notch, turns out good, detailed photos with very natural tones. I adore this display. I like Samsung's super amoled, so I didn't quite know what to expect, yet this display has stunned me with a warm variety of natural colors.
I personally love the stock keyboard. I had bought swiftkey on my Nexus S and assumed I would need it for this phone as well, but I have been impressed with the stock keyboard to a tremendous extent.
Now, a complaint I do have is regarding the temperature of this processing beast. It tends to run hot. Which sometimes prevents me from putting the screen at 100% brightness. I was a bit shocked, but it seems a small price to pay for a quad core processor and a huge screen.
This is a very nice phone. Love it.
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I had the HTC EVO 3D last which eventually died on me. Two strips on the phone became unresponsive (had to use predictive texting all the time m ><) and the back camera failed so every time I switched the camera it would just flip the image.
LG Optimus G
PROS
Gorgeous screen
Incredibly fast
Lots of memory space
Light weight
Thin
Beautiful construction
High res camera
Nice software usability
Amazing contact profiles
Great social integration
CONS
Searching contacts takes a long time (it searches every field)
Large white space at the keypad which SHOULD contain most recent contacts
Most recent contacts is in the history tab, a second action to dial
Clicking a user after searching their name in the keypad pastes their phone number instead of auto dials
The home widget screens sometimes lag horribly and visibly refreshes each icon
Camera has a yellow tint
Camera has a blue tint with flash
Poor reception in Atlanta?
Folders can only contain so many icons
Cannot choose picture associated with user
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Try contact sync from play store. You can use contacts fb pic as contact pic.. If I'm not mistaken ever since 4.0 Facebook stopped allowing to sync FB contacts to mobile contacts
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this phone is pretty g
so i have been waiting to get an upgrade since march... i was on a blackberry 8530 and it was falling apart. through the months i managed to bypass the evo lte for the gsIII, then to be later completely let down by that device. i guess it came down to value, i couldnt see myself spending 200 bucks for either of these phones so i continued to wait. come october i hear the specs for the OG and it seemed like it was going to be the phone that the gsIII should have been. quad core, 13 mp shooter, and 2 gb ram... epic. I knew the phone was going to come out for 200, compared to the evo lte for about 100 and the sg3III for about 150 regular price. Expecting for there to be deals on these phones, I was still debating on making the purchase for 200 and not too just wait for a price drop. When I saw the preorder price of 150 I got pretty damn excited. heres a phone that just came out for the same price as the sgIII, with better specs. Well I ended up having to wait a little longer for a discover card that I had just been approved for. Come last week I see the best buy price... $100, no freaking way. I got my card walked in the best buy with confidence at made my purchase, actually got one for my dad too. So yeah anyways after one week I have come to some of the same conclusions as the rest of you guys.
Build quality/screen: The phone looks and feels fantastic. This screen is great, I put a couple hd .mkv's and they run so smooth and look so good. I can even play them as a text!
The OS: ICS seems to run with few hiccups, and LG's skin is pleasing. But yeah everything is so smooth and accessible. Apps load so quick. I dont know how much of this is just because its my first android phone or the phone itself. I notice some of you all noticed the stutter when swiping through the home screen menus. I got this alot, especially when exiting apps or switching to landscape mode. I think I found a semi-solution by switching the scroll effect to carousel. It seems much more smooth to play with. I have also noticed the lag when scrolling through longer menus, like in the music app while scrolling through songs. I have a hard time believing this is not a software issue, the cpu and ram on this phone should run those things like butter. Also i think this is a glitch ive experienced like 3 times. I'll be sending a text, usually a long one, and suddenly the delete key gets stuck or something. I cant do anything except sit there and watch my message get deleted. Its super frustrating. It seems to stick even after, backspacing any new character I type. I think I have to exit out and return to the message for it to actually stop.
The battery: I dont know if I'm satisfied. I haven't tried it standby with music for very long, but it seems to drop pretty quick on with normal use. Ive been playing around with leaving wifi off, or on with the data, and either way it still seems pretty draining. Im not even at full brightness. Im really worried how long this thing will last watching movies or playing games. Android is at 44% right now. Also its a shame it isn't removable.
Temp: The phone can get pretty hot also. There is actually a spot, on or right under the logo on the back that actually can get intolerable at times. Maybe it only happens when using the phone while charging, but it was still surprising. The rest of the phone stays pretty cool
The camera: From what I've taken, I'm pretty happy. I like the "cheese shutter" feature for taking self portraits with the main camera. It is weak in low light, but isnt every phone camers? One issue that exists is the flash and the actual taking of the photo seem out of sync. I can't tell if its just me, but I get fulled when the actual photo is snapped, especially when the screen shows a photo right before the flash. I'm sure this could be solved with future updates.
The RAM: Yeah there are two gigs, but I seem to always have around one being used. Even with all tasks stopped, I can't get it under ~960mb in use. It was actually around 1.07gb until I did a restart. I dont know if this is all being sucked up by ICS, but should I be worried?
Storage: Im really upset over the absence of microsd slot, but I knew about that before I made my purchase. I mean 32gb built in is quite a bit more than what comes standard in other phones. I have no idea how people survive with an 8gb iphone, to me with some high quality music and bigger apps, that memory will vanish. I have noticed, though, on the stock file manager, the main directory is "/mnt/sdcard". This is pretty suspicious. I'm wondering if there actually is a card slot, but we just can't access it? Has anyone opened her up to see?
Overall: I love it, and at $100 I can't complain. I am looking forward to the Jelly Bean update or to possibly rooting the device to run a custom rom. Either way great phone!
PS. This is my first post. I wouldnt have registered if I didnt have so much to say.
Mrichelo said:
I managed to get a second replacement which still has the backlight bleed and color-banding issue. I have since discovered that this is a manufacturing defect that exists on all Optimus G's, which is unfortunate, but I'm learning to live with it. The backlight bleed is easy to ignore, but the color-banding is very noticeable. A simple swipe down of the notifications panel will show the quick settings bar, which has a striped/banned effect on the gradient. Comparing this device's screen to others (SGSIII and iPhone 5) shows that this display is unique in this regard. Such a shame, considering all the great things about this phone.
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Hate it when people say what I'm about to say, but I'm saying it - I have none of these problems. There is no gradient on my quick settings bar. It's solid gray with no banding anywhere. With photos, I've got several with totally black or dark edges around the entire frame and I see no light bleed. My wife has the same phone and doesn't have these issues, either. Not trying to diminish your problem because it's obviously a problem. Only reason I'm saying it is that I haven't read anywhere that these are manufacturing defects.
@mosesjohn, That was a nice post, enjoyed reading through it. About the ram thing, I experience the same thing and I find it quite odd. When I had my Epic 4G using Jellybean, over half of my 512GB of ram was being use so to find that this phone is using half 2GB shocked me. I assumed that android just reserves a certain percentage of ram kinda like all OS reserves memory in a HDD/SSD. Either that of LG's UI is taking up a lot of resources.
Kchitown1977 said:
Try contact sync from play store. You can use contacts fb pic as contact pic.. If I'm not mistaken ever since 4.0 Facebook stopped allowing to sync FB contacts to mobile contacts
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You can merge/join contacts if you log into LG Social+. I'm able to get FB photos for contacts (as well as their social statuses). Though, I wish the auto-suggest worked better. Took me a while to get all my contacts linked right.
latindor17 said:
@mosesjohn, That was a nice post, enjoyed reading through it. About the ram thing, I experience the same thing and I find it quite odd. When I had my Epic 4G using Jellybean, over half of my 512GB of ram was being use so to find that this phone is using half 2GB shocked me. I assumed that android just reserves a certain percentage of ram kinda like all OS reserves memory in a HDD/SSD. Either that of LG's UI is taking up a lot of resources.
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thanks!
about the ram... it helps knowing im not alone. it might just be that ICS likes to utilize whatever it can, without taking up more than half of the ram. I mean its going to be really hard to use 1 gb of ram with apps/games, and if ICS runs smoother because it uses the rest, fine by me. I just hope its as efficient as possible, without sacrificing performance.

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