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OK I have read and read and read some more and still don't quite understand. Hate me if you must but I need to ask. What will it do to a stock EVO with 2.2 OTA update. Should I do it to stop them from locking MY phone down with future updates?
Nothing. Stock, unrooted 2.2 is still stuck. There is no known root for 2.2 yet.
-frank
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/b/laZ1n said:
OK I have read and read and read some more and still don't quite understand. Hate me if you must but I need to ask. What will it do to a stock EVO with 2.2 OTA update. Should I do it to stop them from locking MY phone down with future updates?
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There is no method to obtain root access on the 2.2 stock ROM, therefore you can run unrevoked on it.
OK I see that now. It must be rooted before you install unrevoke. Sorry about that thanks.
I've heard that you can't do an ota firmware update if you're rooted (is this true?) If so, am I still able to do maintenance releases? Sprint just sent out a new one. http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/240535#240535
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If your rooted you never do a ota or yours losing root
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Never ever do an OTA, if you're rooted.
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That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure >.> thanks!
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So the general consensus is not to do a OTA update if rooted because you will lose root.
OK, what if I dont mind losing root.
I am rooted (ive used the unrEVOked 3.21: one-click root for Froyo method).
And I have never installed any custom ROMs.
(i.e. I am running on Stock. Not rooted Stock ROM! Just rooted Stock. Im not even sure if there is a difference but just wanted to say it so its clear.)
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
newtonetienne said:
Wouldnt it be possible to be rooted , perform on OTA update (which will make me lose root), then root again (or wait however long until a new root method is discovered for the current software version)?
Please advise.
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That is based on the assumption that there will be a guaranteed method to regain root user access on the device. It could take hours, days, weeks, months, or even never.
I would recommend flashing the stock 3.70 update for root users here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Now you still have the update, but you have retained root user access.
Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update (i.e. actually through update and not flashed) my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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Some feedback, in case others find it helpful.
So while rooted, I decided to accept the 3.70 OTA update. The phone downloaded, rebooted, then tried to install it. It failed.
In case others don't know, I believe it failed because a custom recovery was recognized, Clockworkmod. (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Nevertheless, since I wanted the 3.7 OTA update my only option was to set s-on then unroot. The procedures to set s-on and unroot from unrevoked website worked flawlessly.
Afterwards, I tried to apply the OTA, and this time it installed.
So I am now unrooted, and with 3.70 OTA. In a few days I'm going to try the new unrevoked v3.31. Hopefully it will root me.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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You are late to the party. If you waited like a couple hours you would have saved a lot of time.
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Sorry novanosis85, i think my last post was a bit unclear.
I wanted to unroot, so I could apply the OTA update.
I guess I was trying to provide some feedback for others who may have similar questions like i did. Namely...
1. can I apply OTA when rooted? what i discovered was, "no" because the update process will discovery a custom recovery.
2. whats is required to be able to apply the OTA? s-on, and unroot procedure, then apply OTA. Update will indeed be applied but you will be unrooted.
Again, I hope this helps others.
dont dooo it! ull lose root
Wheres the guy with the zombie thread pic when you need him? I thought another ota was out
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Just a quick question --
Would installing a CM7 ROM on a T-Mobile G2 (US) remove the WiFi Calling and Swype apps? If so, is there any way to restore them?
Wifi calling is still there but swype will be gone but you can go swype website get the beta its newer and better
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Thanks! Is the WiFi Calling included with CM7, then? Because if I'm not mistaken, to perm-root I'll need to downgrade from the OTA ROM, which would remove the WiFi app from my phone.
skmpowdjy said:
Thanks! Is the WiFi Calling included with CM7, then? Because if I'm not mistaken, to perm-root I'll need to downgrade from the OTA ROM, which would remove the WiFi app from my phone.
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I'm pretty sure its included but, regardless, you'll still get the OTA once you are rooted. Run #*#*checkin*#*# to connect to the servers and you should get the OTA within a day.
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I'm pretty sure its included but, regardless, you'll still get the OTA once you are rooted. Run #*#*checkin*#*# to connect to the servers and you should get the OTA within a day.
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What are you talking about? Taking an OTA will remove root assuming you're on a rooted stock 2.2 device, and not sure why you would be receiving an OTA anyways, the update is gonna be on his phone from the start if its new or even used at this point...
And if you flash CM7 there is no OTA... It's not even based on 2.2 (or distributed by T-mobile, for that matter), its 2.3. You just have what you flash and that's it until you update to a new version of the ROM or add features manually.
OP, there is no need to drop your OTA (or downgrade to remove the OTA) update in order to root, that is only an issue with the Desire Z, not the G2. You can successfully completely perm-root with the OTA (I've done it personally on 2 different OTA devices).
The WiFi calling included with CM7 is the same you get with the stock 2.2 ROM, and it works just fine from my experience. As stated by the 1st reply, Swype is in open beta, you can install it yourself.
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What are you talking about? Taking an OTA will remove root assuming you're on a rooted stock 2.2 device, and not sure why you would be receiving an OTA anyways, the update is gonna be on his phone from the start if its new or even used at this point...
And if you flash CM7 there is no OTA... It's not even based on 2.2 (or distributed by T-mobile, for that matter), its 2.3. You just have what you flash and that's it until you update to a new version of the ROM or add features manually.
OP, there is no need to drop your OTA (or downgrade to remove the OTA) update in order to root, that is only an issue with the Desire Z, not the G2. You can successfully completely perm-root with the OTA (I've done it personally on 2 different OTA devices).
The WiFi calling included with CM7 is the same you get with the stock 2.2 ROM, and it works just fine from my experience. As stated by the 1st reply, Swype is in open beta, you can install it yourself.
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Thank you for the info!
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Thank you for the info!
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No problem. Good luck in your CM7 adventures!
Hi, I was wondering if there was any way to flash the official ota for Gingerbread after it comes out. Since I'm am temp rooted I will miss the official ota. I already know there are leaked versions of gingerbread but I would rather wait for the official release.
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well if you ar temp rooted, you might as well finish and perm-root . BUT, you would have to revert back to stock when it does get officially released. itll either brick your phone if you try to update to it, or itll just unroot your phone. you might as well just flash Rmk40's Glite which is the rooted stock rom and you can overclock, and itll be alot faster.
Stock vs Rooted
i would say go with rmk's as well. But I'm not really a fan of stock gingerbread.
Just root already. You won't be sorry.
If you intend on still being able to temp root, or root for that matter, you don't want to install the OTA. Its not rootable, temp or perm, and would need to be downgraded to an older ROM in order to do so.
Once the ota come I won't care about rooting, but will someone post the official ota on xda when it come out?
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keithalan said:
Once the ota come I won't care about rooting, but will someone post the official ota on xda when it come out?
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Why are you temp rooting?
The official Gingerbread OTA was already posted a while ago.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074391
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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sorry. there is no root for 2.3.3 GB yet. Many are working on it, so hopefully that will change soon. I feel your pain as my phone broke and the replacement had GB on it already when I got it
skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot.
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Great device
My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3.
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Unrevoked is my preferred root method.
Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it.
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Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Ok, sorry for not being very informed. He tried to update to the ota but it failed. I assumed that it must be because the s-off since he hadn't done anything but tether.
He really has no need to be rooted because the only thing he wanted todo was tether. Now, I have turned the s-on, but the pc36img fails to update.
Is it safe to just check for/install the system up? Or does the phone need to be unrooted?
dougjamal said:
Great device Unrevoked is my preferred root method. Why not? Is there not a flashable OTA update floating around these forums?
Why are you unrooting his device? If it's to get the OTA 2.3.3 update, wouldn't it be easier to flash a rooted stock froyo rom, go to the system update setting and then update? Of course, I'm assuming that is what you're trying to do so forgive me if I misunderstood your post.
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Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?
skennelly said:
Can he do this with s-on? If not, how can I turn it back off?
Last, could you provide a link to a stock rooted rom I could flash?
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If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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dougjamal said:
If you already have S-On, all you need to do is flash the ruu that coincides with software 3.70 or 3.29. You can download any of the ruus for the EVO by clicking on the RUU link in my signature. Also, there's a link to rooted stock roms in my link, as well.
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Awesome! Thank you very much. I'm on my phone now, so I'll check it out when I get to my laptop.
Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...
lil_bono said:
Before you do something you will regret, go back and use unrevoked asap. Get back to S-off. If you turn S-on, and then take the update, you can not go back at the moment.
Flash a stock rooted gingerbread rom...
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Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?
You need S-Off for permanent root and ability to flash custom ROMs. So before you take the OTA for him, as long as the phone is 2.2, run Unrevoked once again and install AmonRa.
Does he even like Sense? I would suggest trying one of the setups from my sig, or even MIUI if he doesn't need 4G.
You could have S-On and get the OTA, which would make his phone unrootable and boring, or you could just root back and flash a ROM with better battery life (I hear that Calkulin's works great, but so do other ROMs)
Before you do anything, try showing him pictures of MIUI, SalvageMod, MikG or another ROM and ask what he likes best.
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Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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skennelly said:
Honestly, my bro-in-law doesn't need root. Here I am trying to fix his problem. I've spent more time on this than I should. I mod my X, but the evo confuses me some.
Are you saying he can take the ota rooted, with s-on?
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I understood from your earlier post that your brother-in-law didn't need root and thus the reasons for the answers I gave. Yes, he can accept the OTA while S-ON and he will indeed upgrade his device to 2.3.3, however, should he wish to unroot afterwards, he won't be able to until an exploit can be found. I take it your friend isn't the type of person who flashes roms, mods, kernels and such.
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skennelly said:
Alright. I own a droid x and it is extremely simple to root and unroot. My bro-in-law had me help him root his evo using unrevoked3. Now he wants the GB update but cannot get it. Long story short. I flashed the s-on file and it worked. However, when I put the pc36img.zip on the sd card and enter the bootloader, it automatically starts searching the image and I get the error below.
Main version is older!
Update failed
2.15.00.11.19 baseband
Android 2.2 stock everything.
Can someone please help me get his evo unrooted?
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check your hboot version and S off status
if its hboot 2.16 and S on, you are boned since you unrooted it when you took the gb update
so basically...dont tell your friend that you screwed his chances to root yourself lol
the correct route would have been to flash with a rooted stock GB ota wich was already out there, but its too late now : /
welcome to the "wait for root" boat with us, leave your bags by the door you will be here a while
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Oh, and he would need a custom ROM with tethering unlocked for the ability to tether for free. And he would need S-Off to put that ROM on.
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you can thether without being rooted
download pdanet app on phone and on pc you want to tether on
hotspot requires root or paying sprint though
I really appreciate everyones help, don't get me wrong. However, I'm sitting here doing all this research and trying to get help for my in-law who thought he needed root and wanted to tether. He doesn't even use tether. I'm not showing him any custom roms. He lives three hours away and i'd be doing all his leg work/fixing his problems.
All I want to do (and him as well) is get him to gb stock unrooted and be done with his phone.
So, if the s-on is on, but the su app is still in the app drawer, and the pc36img.zip failed. If he selects settings>about phone>check for updates, will this get him to gb?
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Yes, he should be able to do as you stated above and be updated to 2.3.3?
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Thank you
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