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If I flash an older rom, can I then use an older RUU?

I wasn't sure about the answer to this question, so I thought I'd just go to Q&A and ask. I searched and didn't find anything on this specifically. I'm a bit worried about using the latest RUU since the whole 2.02 HBoot thing (though I'm not sure if it would update older phones to that version). I was wondering if I'd be able to use the recovery to flash an early rooted rom and from there use an RUU and unroot it to that earlier version.
Sorry if that doesn't make a whole lot of sense, I'm just wondering if I can trick the RUU into letting me install an old version. A botched unrooting left me with the 0.93 hboot instead of my usual .76 eng hboot.

I don't think that this will work for ya, you need to downgrade your hboot. From my experiences by downgrading my hboot i was able to flash older ruu files.

Yellowcard8992 said:
I don't think that this will work for ya, you need to downgrade your hboot. From my experiences by downgrading my hboot i was able to flash older ruu files.
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Oh well, I'll just flash the latest PC36IMG.ZIP. I found it on the 2.02 hboot thread. It doesn't really matter, I only need to unroot this thing long enough to have Sprint accept it. It's been rebooting so much lately that I can barely use it for longer than 30 minutes. This was my last resort after wiping repeatedly, changing SD cards and other things.

just remember to flash the Unrevoked S-On tool too.

[Q] Go Back to Stock

Hi Everyone, sorry for the noob question here but I need to take my phone in for warranty so I'm looking for some help on putting my phone back to stock.
Currently my Desire is running CM7.1 RC1, Radio 5.11.05.14, S-OFF with AlphaRev, HBOOT 0.93.1000, and rooted with unRevoked3
From what I've been reading online I should be able to flash the RUU at the following link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667 however I'm not sure which one is the correct one for Telus?
I do have a nandroid backup from before I did S-OFF and I think even before I did root it. Not sure if that helps me out or not.
If someone could point me in the right direction that would be awesome.
Thanks!

Telus is this one:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151557_signed.exe
If you used the latest alpharev to S-OFF, you may need to flash the downgrader hboot for the RUU to work.

Thanks for the link, when I go to run it I get the following error.
ERROR[152]: IMAGE UPDATE ERROR
From reading the ReadMe it says "One of these error messages will appear when you use the incorrect RUU to update and the image file size is larger than the Flash ROM size. In this case, download the correct RUU version and try again."

You should read posts completely:
rootSU said:
If you used the latest alpharev to S-OFF, you may need to flash the downgrader hboot for the RUU to work.
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[Q] Upgrade HBOOT in order to S-OFF

hi guys,
I am trying to s-off my Telus Desire GSM with hboot .83.
I tried to use the alpharev cd method and it failed.
I was told i can flash an RUU with an upgraded HBOOT (.93) which would then allow me to use the new revolutionary method of S-OFF.
My question is, which RUU is safe to install that will still allow me to get root after and and also contains the new HBOOT so i can s-off? Or is this not the correct way to go about it?
Thanks

Why did alpharev fail? Did you try to get help in alpharev irc channel?
If you flash official gingerbread update by HTC, hboot gets updated to version 1.xxx and you can try to go s-off and root with revolutionary.
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Alpharev fails with Gingerbread roms.
This is your case?

Use the official RUU from htcdev.com

ironjon said:
Alpharev fails with Gingerbread roms.
This is your case?
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thats not true..alpharev fails with a2sd/data2sd roms and with hboot 1.x

I was using a gingerbread rom without A2SD when I tried the alpharev CD version.
My previous rom was A2SD so i loaded one that wasn't but alpharev still failed with the unary operator expected error.
I went into the IRC channel and they said the CD method was deprecated now in favour of revolutionary. They recommended I flash an RUU with a newer bootloader and then use revolutionary for s-off.

nektario said:
I was using a gingerbread rom without A2SD.....and it failed with the unary operator expected error. I went into the IRC channel and they said the CD method was deprecated now in favour of revolutionary. They recommended I flash and RUU with a newer bootloader and then use revolutionary for s-off.
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probably run the htc gingerbread ruu and then revolutionary is much easy..but the error unary operator is related to a rom with a2sd usually..what the rom u was using when tried with alpharev?

I was using the smallest rom I could find, FLUX without a2sd.
Is rooting/s-off from the stock HTC Gingerbread RUU always successful?

nektario said:
I was using the smallest rom I could find, FLUX without a2sd.
Is rooting/s-off from the stock HTC Gingerbread RUU always successful?
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if u flash succesfull the ruu and the phone boot (some users reported bootloop just after the ruu..i dont know how much true), revolutionary will go easily..u can also try to flash a rom like cm7 or oxygen and try alpharev again

Thanks for the info. I might try it with cyanogen and alpharev and see how it goes.

Hello,
bravo-gsm, rooted by unrevoked, hboot 0.83, radio 5.17 and cm7.1.0rc1: same problem.
phone is stuck after alpharev0.8's first boot (after step 1/3, automatic phone reboot, "Dozing off for about a minute while we wait").
#revolutionary told me to upgrade hboot to 0.93 or 1.02
Is there any other way than playing with hboot (before alpharev/revolutionary plays with it itself) ?
I tried some roms without "data2ext*" with no luck.
I doubt it comes from the rom itself since the process (first alpharev's boot) stays stuck in hboot.
Flashing RUU roms is quite frightening since it is not clear whether they ship hboots, and if yes which versions.
Any suggestion ?

The problem is not your hboot. The problem is you are not using a rooted stock Rom. Flash teppic74's rooted stock Froyo or restore your first nandroid, then it will work
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Thanks !
That worked but that was not the only problem.
The other one was between the chair and the keyboard.
As I did not want to burn a cd for a one time use, I decided that extracting and executing binaries from alpharev's iso would do it. And of course I was wrong. It was (silently!) failing because of probably many reasons, one of them was the use of /data directory which hardly exists in standard linux distributions.
I managed to make a bootable usb stick from the iso thanks to linux's unetbootin.
Then the s-off automagically succeeded. Flashing patched hboot did not succeed using the PB99IMG method (cid problem, probably unknown brand?). But the fastboot method made it.
After nandroid restore, free space jumped from ~20MB to ~150MB.
This is just great. I'm impressed by all the work which is beeing done for our phones.
Thanks everybody.

deyv said:
Thanks !
That worked but that was not the only problem.
The other one was between the chair and the keyboard.
As I did not want to burn a cd for a one time use, I decided that extracting and executing binaries from alpharev's iso would do it. And of course I was wrong. It was (silently!) failing because of probably many reasons, one of them was the use of /data directory which hardly exists in standard linux distributions.
I managed to make a bootable usb stick from the iso thanks to linux's unetbootin.
Then the s-off automagically succeeded. Flashing patched hboot did not succeed using the PB99IMG method (cid problem, probably unknown brand?). But the fastboot method made it.
After nandroid restore, free space jumped from ~20MB to ~150MB.
This is just great. I'm impressed by all the work which is beeing done for our phones.
Thanks everybody.
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[Q] Upgrading HBOOT from 0.75, AlphaRev failed?

I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.

tangcla said:
I recently bought a Desire (A8183) and it came with HBOOT 0.75.0000 and I am trying to get S-OFF on it. I tried using AlphaRev and it came up with an error in step 3. How do I overcome this?
The phone still works fine.
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1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
Cheers

thanito said:
1st: Wrong topic, you should post it in Q&A.
2nd: Have you flashed any custom ROM??? If so, thats why you cannot S-OFF it, try any near-to-stock, froyo rooted rom and then try again, this will do the trick
Cheers
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Oops, wrong subforum, didn't realise.
Yes I'm running a custom ROM I'll try a Froyo-based ROM and see if that helps.
It's a shame that Revolutionary doesn't support this version of HBOOT, is there any way of 'tricking' Revolutionary to S-OFF the 0.75 HBOOT?

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You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C

bortak said:
You can always update bootloader... if you have a goldcard then put the attached file in the root of your sd-card, and then boot into bootloader and wait for it do do it's thing.. when it prompts you select yes. This will update your bootloader to version 0.93.1002
You shouldn't lose any data, but do make a backup of the ROM in recovery in case you get a bootloop.
Then run Revolutionary.
MD5 6384C1953791831738CCB78322DABD2C
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I downloaded the file and put it on the root sdcard... Bootloader seemed to just skip over the file though.
Do I need to change the text file in the zip to my CID or anything else? It doesn't like it

you need a goldcard, so it ignores the CID.. or actually.. what network are you on?
EDIT: Just noticed lol
Wait I'm downloading a Telstra RUU and I'll give you a new PB99IMG

try this. If not, then you can always use the RUU to do a full update, and then S-OFF and flash a custom ROM.

Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD

tangcla said:
Thanks I'll give it a try.
I have four microSD cards at home and I've tried gold carding all of them... I don't know how successful I was cos I couldn't do what I wanted on the Desire HD
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try the goldcard tutorial I posted.
Okay, well I'm gonna get to sleep now but I'll give you some advice before you go.
If you can't update the bootloader with that, I'd suggest backing up your ROM (if you havent done so already), flashing the RUU to bring it up to the latest bootloader version, and then using revolutionary.
Once you've S-OFF'd with revo. Use android flasher to flash recovery (Note: your backup will not work if you do not flash the same version of recovery) and then do a full wipe and flash a ROM of your choice.

Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!

tangcla said:
Would you happen to know where I can get the original Telstra RUU from? I think that might be my best bet.
Thanks for your help!
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I sent you a link on my other post, but I think the site is down at the moment.. I can upload a mirror for you though because I downloaded it yesterday
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/...2U_5_11_05_14_release_150162_signed.exe_links

Thanks - this looks like it worked now HBOOT 0.93.0001, running revolutionary now.
Is there any benefit in upgrading HBOOT at all? What does 1.02.0001 offer?

Hboot 1.xxxx is the stock hboot for gingerbread. So it offers you nothing. By flashing a hboot like cm7 (most roms fit in this hboot), you get much more space for installing apps, because its /data partition is much bigger.
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I think I bricked my phone

Ok, I did something stupid and now I think I bricked my phone.
I wanted to go back to stock by flashing an RUU and it failed. Naturally, I remembered I was S-OFF so I went and downloaded the alpharev hboot images required to go back to stock. However, I flashed the downgrader and forgot to flash the Stock HBOOT. I flashed the RUU and now my phone is S-ON and stuck on the wrong HBOOT and thus cannot flash the system partition. Is there anyway I can recover the phone? It is stuck on the HTC screen with 4 triangles on either side. I can access fastboot but can't do anything in there.
Any help would be appreciated.

armanatz said:
Ok, I did something stupid and now I think I bricked my phone.
I wanted to go back to stock by flashing an RUU and it failed. Naturally, I remembered I was S-OFF so I went and downloaded the alpharev hboot images required to go back to stock. However, I flashed the downgrader and forgot to flash the Stock HBOOT. I flashed the RUU and now my phone is S-ON and stuck on the wrong HBOOT and thus cannot flash the system partition. Is there anyway I can recover the phone? It is stuck on the HTC screen with 4 triangles on either side. I can access fastboot but can't do anything in there.
Any help would be appreciated.
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What was the last HBOOT you flashed, do you have a carrier branded device?

3f1f37 said:
What was the last HBOOT you flashed, do you have a carrier branded device?
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I flashed the Alpharev downgrader then I used the RUU utility to flash and that messed up the whole phone. No, this is not a carrier branded devices
EDIT: The specific order was bravo_downgrader.img > then RUU > nuclear meltdown

armanatz said:
I flashed the Alpharev downgrader then I used the RUU utility to flash and that messed up the whole phone. No, this is not a carrier branded devices
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Follow THIS guide and I'm sure you should be able to restore your device to a working state.
What version of the RUU did you try to flash, Froyo or GB?

3f1f37 said:
Follow THIS guide and I'm sure you should be able to restore your device to a working state.
What version of the RUU did you try to flash, Froyo or GB?
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I shall try to follow the guide and see if it helps.
The file I used was title "RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed"
So it was the Froyo version
EDIT: I also was on the CM7 r2 hboot and that is the reason my phone cannot complete the process by the way. Forgot to mention that

armanatz said:
I shall try to follow the guide and see if it helps.
The file I used was title "RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed"
So it was the Froyo version
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Follow that guide, create the PB99IMG.zip put it in the root of your SD and follow the tutorial and you should be good.
Good Luck :good:

3f1f37 said:
Follow that guide, create the PB99IMG.zip put it in the root of your SD and follow the tutorial and you should be good.
Good Luck :good:
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I also was on the CM7 r2 hboot and that is the reason my phone cannot complete the process by the way. Forgot to mention that. Will the guide be able to fix that?
Is there a way I can get a signed HBOOT from one of the stock ROMs or RUUs and try flashing that as I don't have access to a memory card reader right now?

armanatz said:
I also was on the CM7 r2 hboot and that is the reason my phone cannot complete the process by the way. Forgot to mention that. Will the guide be able to fix that?
Is there a way I can get a signed HBOOT from one of the stock ROMs or RUUs and try flashing that as I don't have access to a memory card reader right now?
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If you flashed the AlphaRev downgrader HBOOT then the process to unroot using the PB99IMG.zip will restore your device to a working condition and S-ON. I have used this method to unroot many times, the HBOOT contained in the PB99IMG.zip will overwrite the AlphaRev downgrader HBOOT.
The last brick I recovered from was flashing a NEXUS ONE custom HBOOT to my Desire and even after that I was able to revive it.

3f1f37 said:
If you flashed the AlphaRev downgrader HBOOT then the process to unroot using the PB99IMG.zip will restore your device to a working condition and S-ON. I have used this method to unroot many times, the HBOOT contained in the PB99IMG.zip will overwrite the AlphaRev downgrader HBOOT.
The last brick I recovered from was flashing a NEXUS ONE custom HBOOT to my Desire and even after that I was able to revive it.
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Thing is, now I am S-ON because of the RUU, will that affect it in any way?
Sorry for all the questions. Just freaking out a little bit

armanatz said:
Thing is, now I am S-ON because of the RUU, will that affect it in any way?
Sorry for all the questions. Just freaking out a little bit
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Nah bro, the PB99IMG.zip will over-write everything and restore your device to a factory state.
How far have you got with the process?

3f1f37 said:
Nah bro, the PB99IMG.zip will over-write everything and restore your device to a factory state.
How far have you got with the process?
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Trying to get a memory card reader to make a gold card. Don't have access to one yet. Is it ok if I PM you once I try the process out if I have any questions?
Would appreciate it. Will try to do as much as I can on my own though so I won't bother you with stupid question

armanatz said:
Trying to get a memory card reader to make a gold card. Don't have access to one yet. Is it ok if I PM you once I try the process out if I have any questions?
Would appreciate it. Will try to do as much as I can on my own though so I won't bother you with stupid question
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Don't loose your time, just download 2.3 RUU from htcdev.com and no goldcard needed.

nlooooo said:
Don't loose your time, just download 2.3 RUU from htcdev.com and no goldcard needed.
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An awesome forum member messaged me last night and told me the same thing. I thought why not give it a shot and it worked brilliantly. Thanks goes out to jmcclue, nlooooo, and 3f1f37 for all your help
If anyone is facing the same issue as I did. Just flash the 2.3.3 RUU and it should fix it right away. Now on to downgrading to Froyo