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Ok, so I am completely dumbfounded by this. Here's the problem. I download an app and in order to use it, I must uninstall then reinstall it. If I try to use it without reinstalling, it just force closes. If it doesn't force close, when I reboot my phone, I lose all the data in the app.
Also, today was trying to access my sound settings and the entire settings force closed. I managed to fix that by clearing the data of the settings within the application manager.
The weird thing is, its not just on one ROM. I have tried CM7 RC1 and RC2, SkyRaider Sense 3.5 and Virtuous 3.2.0
I am currently running SkyRaider. I have the latest recovery. I have tried to do a factory reset.
Any suggestions?
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Is it a phone specific app?
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Its any app I download from the market. It even does it when I first flash a ROM with Gmail and Market. Then Gmail updates its fine.
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Does it matter if its stored on sd? Is sd formatted FAT32?
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Downgrade the recovery to the 2.x series.
Dinc running Magnolia 1.3/incedikernel/and BnB theme!
Yeah the SD card is formatted correctly. I have been using the same card since last July. And I don't have any apps on my SD card. I keep them all on my phone.
And I thought that you weren't supposed to use an older recovery?
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UPDATE: I seemed to have fixed the problem. Insteadof doing a factory reset from the ROM, I did it from the recovery and it seemed to work. I'm still curiousas to what caused that to happen though...
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ijustintouch said:
UPDATE: I seemed to have fixed the problem. Insteadof doing a factory reset from the ROM, I did it from the recovery and it seemed to work. I'm still curiousas to what caused that to happen though...
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Because a factory reset from the ROM doesn't wipe /system /cache /data, only your own information. You need to do a full wipe through recovery, just like you figured out
I had the same issue when I first moved to CM7 via ROM Manager. Once I followed the instructions at the start of the nightlies thread things have been perfect.
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Because a factory reset from the ROM doesn't wipe /system /cache /data, only your own information. You need to do a full wipe through recovery, just like you figured out
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Gotcha. That makes sense now. Thank you. I don't have my Dinc anymore. Just got the Thunderbolt today.
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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
I usually wipe system, cache, and dalvik that way I keep all my dl app but some wipe data also. U can wipe boot as well.
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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
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A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
k2buckley said:
A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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+1........(laughing)
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dougjamal said:
My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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He asked what a FULL wipe was. Not if it was necessary or required. And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc.
Oh well, we all have our own methods and rituals for flashing, lol. I will stick to my methods, and everyone else can use theirs.
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Papa Smurf151 said:
That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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It may very well be overkill, however, that is my method and it has served me well and has saved me a great deal of unnecessary troubleshooting. But hey, to each his or her own, right? Take care and enjoy the rest of your night....
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.....And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc......
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever. The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market. So wiping it in recovery makes little sense. I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem. Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever.
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Yes, i have.
The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market.
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Not with my current setup. My data/apps/ folder contains ALL of my 3rd party apps except Anfry Birds Rio and my app-private folder is empty.
So wiping it in recovery makes little sense.
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Yes and No.
I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem.
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I believe you and don't have a problem with you doing it that way, however, like you, I, too, have flashed a great deal of roms and my method has also served me well. It is not wrong for me to use my method. It's just a matter of preference and nothing more.
Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I understand, but, I do not sit for hours restoring my apps. My apps are restored within minutes. Anyway, I appreciate your viewpoint. Take care and have a great night.....
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i find that the nightly build is cool and is awesome. the problem is when i use system panel task manager, the phone reboots. i dont know why and its more laggy than the cm7 mod please tell me its me doing something wrong not my phone's or the mod's fault.
and it svery irritating that it keeps hanging. please someone help me with the nightly mod thing i want to use.
Go for nightly#205. And do a full wipe including data,cache,dalvic cache, and perform a factory resetting from cwm before you flash the nightly. Also use latest buzz kernal so that you can overclock your phone.
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I know how to clear data and cache from clockwork mod. How to clear devik. Ache and factory reset from clockwork mod. And the kernel from where? Can please tell me and post link for kernel?
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I know how to clear data and cache from clockwork mod. How to clear devik. Ache and factory reset from clockwork mod. And the kernel from where? Can please tell me and post link for kernel?
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i had problem with my previous nightly # 177 when i used darktremor APP2SD script .. even when i re flashed nightly #205 .. things were the same (Talking about random reboots upon opening task manager / and installing apps etc. ) ..
then i repartitioned my SD and didn't flashed the script... now its fine .. ..
so how did you install it? how to repartition sd card and not flash the script? how to install?
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i had problem with my previous nightly # 177 when i used darktremor APP2SD script .. even when i re flashed nightly #205 .. things were the same (Talking about random reboots upon opening task manager / and installing apps etc. ) ..
then i repartitioned my SD and didn't flashed the script... now its fine .. ..
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Lol you may have used beta 4 script, try beta 3, need to use atleast ext3 as your secondary partition. Try it with latest original cwm recovery. 5.xxx to partition. Do a clean install after partition.
And a personal suggestion. S2e app in market is good than dta2sd, though it have not much functions, but what it have, it does its best. I use it.
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I know how to clear data and cache from clockwork mod. How to clear devik. Ache and factory reset from clockwork mod. And the kernel from where? Can please tell me and post link for kernel?
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Dude, explore options in cwm, don't do formatting boot, system, data, unless you learn what it does.
Options may vary from version to versions of cwm. So you have to say which cwm version you have. Mine is latest 5.xxx.
In it, data- factory format( user data or wipe user data, which ever it is called) is in main menu. And dalvic cache wipe is in advanced menu.
Lol you must carefully read topic named" complete wildfire index, then ask doubts, after all you can learn new things from every topic.
Your kernal will be in that topic. Check it out.
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another problem
now i got another problem. my wildfire will hang every now and then and i have to pluck out the battery and switch it back on. its very irritating and having to keep doing that will kill my bat very quickly so could anyone tell me any solutions?
To solve your problem, you must say. Your current configuration, rom, kernal, radio, tweeks, and what have you done just before you got the error
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well i am using the cm7 nightly build #205. kernel is buzz-kernel-2.6.35. i just downloaded some apps that were in my phone when i was using cm7 stable. and there wasnt a problem. do i have to upgrade to latest build and kernel? oh and just a question. if i want to upgrade from #205 to #208, do i have have to like wipe my data and cache and dalvik cache? i wouldnt wanna redownload and change everythin again
You can install the nightlies on top of one another without wiping anything, sometimes it seems better to wipe the cache to me but not always necessary, leave data alone.
Word of warning though, always make a nandroid backup before installing a new rom, although they're stable they are still called experimental for a reason, and sometimes (not very often) things can still go wrong.
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i wiped both the dalvik and partition cache and installed the #208 nightly build and the latest kernel but then the phone would just restart automatically. do i have to wipe data as well?
Yes do a "Wipe Data / Factory Reset" in Clockworkmod if it is giving you issues. Then try a fresh install and check again for instability.
Note - Performing a Wipe Data / Factory Reset will erase all data (Except SD Card)
well i not sure but i think the problem still occurs.. yes it does. i wiped data, cache and dalvik cache, did a install using cwm and it still reboots WHAT TO DO NOW
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Lol you may have used beta 4 script, try beta 3, need to use atleast ext3 as your secondary partition. Try it with latest original cwm recovery. 5.xxx to partition. Do a clean install after partition.
And a personal suggestion. S2e app in market is good than dta2sd, though it have not much functions, but what it have, it does its best. I use it.
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Hey thanks dude .. yup i was using beta 3 last time.. beta 4 was a disaster to CM7.. .. i tried that too ..
but i think my partition was ext2 coz i am using CWM 3 .. will try with CWM 5 .. and sure... S2e too ...
Do you let it boot up before flashing the kernel?
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For i always keep a backup of my contacts in sd. Also apps using titanium backup, i had never used a nandroid backup till now, i alwayz do fresh installs, wiping every thing but not fat32. And always keep things updated.
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ok now i have another problem. my phone will just reboot after hanging when i open system panel task manager. please some one help me
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ok now i have another problem. my phone will just reboot after hanging when i open system panel task manager. please some one help me
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dude is it the same one you had before? thats why we mention to give your current spec. with out it we cant do any thing or we cant help you.
I have used MIUI since June with no problems at all, I then tried to install the 9.30 update. It didn't install right even though MD5 matched (stuck on the white HTC Incredible screen). I tried restoring to my backup and after rebooting nothing happened. It tries going to the boot animation but doesn't, just goes to a black screen. I've let it sit for an hour there and nothing happens. I tried resolving this on the MIUI.us forums, but no responses so far.
At that point I tried cm7, it worked but was really glitchy and bootlooping. cm6 was next, and it was working mostly but didn't seem stable to run. I then tried going back to MIUI all of them, 8.19, 9.2, and 9.9 as well as the 9.30, did not install.
I am now running the rooted stock rom and it seems to be running fine these past two weeks (aside from the fact it's sense). Over the weekend I tried, again, to install MIUI and restore a backup but it's still not working. And to make matters worse cm6 and 7 are no longer running.
I have also tried all of the above with CWM 3.0.0.8, CWM 5.0.0.2, and Amon_RA 3.02 (no restore to test) and have had the same issues across all recoveries.
It really seems like my phone has become allergic to any AOSP rom, I haven't tried other sense roms but I'm expecting them to work since the rooted stock rom has both installed and restored with no issues.
I have not tried going back to bone-stock and then re-rooting as that would be a pain. But if it is my only option to get back to MIUI then I will give it a shot.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Before you flash a ROM do you:
Clear data: Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then flash the ROM?
Before a new rom (not btwn miui updates) I normally wipe data/factory reset and wipe dalvik. But I don't do anything in mounts and storage unless I need to mount usb storage.
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I would back up your current working ROM, try what I mentioned above, and then try flashing MIUI again.
In Mounts and Storage, you'll have the option to format emmc, and sd card too. Just make sure you ARE NOT selecting those items, as obviously you want those intact. If you follow the instruction above, you should be fine.
Got proper HBOOT version?
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When I get home I will try doing everything suggested.
My hboot is 92 I believe.
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RMarkwald said:
Before you flash a ROM do you:
Clear data: Wipe user data/factory reset
Mounts and Storage - format /system, format /boot, format /data, format /cache
Advanced - Wipe Dalvik
Then flash the ROM?
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Ok, I did all of the above and still have no luck in installing MIUI or restoring a backup.
Also, I didn't mention this in the first post. When I try and boot from a restored MIUI and it tries to load the boot animation I can still reset the phone with the 3-finger salute, so the phone is still doing something just not what it's supposed to. I did try flashing another boot screen incase there was something wrong with the backup, but that didn't work.
Any other ideas out there?
Tried a different sd? Copy and paste the contents of sd to pc, reformat sd fat32, copy contents back to sd, see if issue persists.
If reformatted native sd doesn't help, perhaps try another.
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I just tried both a different sd card as well as reformatting my current one, in both cases I can't install MIUI nor CM6.
Stumped here... Only other thing I can think to try is a Sense ROM on either/both sd's to see what boots and runs without issue.
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As I mentioned already I'm currently running the rooted stock gb rom, which is sense. I can try another sense rom just for fun.
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Yep, apologies. Speculation on my part:
Bad sd. AOSP interacts with sd on boot and during normal use, device acts up only with AOSP, hence bad sd.
Also, when flashing the AOSP ROM on newly formatted sd, wipe of mounts (data, cache, boot, and system) as well as factory reset, cache partition, and dalvik, all from recovery were successful?
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So sense does not interact with sd the same way as aosp? What could be the problem with the sd card that allows it to do everything but allow it to boot aosp roms (especially since I have tried 2 different ones) ?
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AOSP calls on and even interacts the sd during boot, as well as during normal use. If your device is only wonky running AOSP, I'd suspect the sd, provided a complete wipe is done and the cwm, radio, and HBOOT are what's called for by the AOSP ROM.
Assume nothing restored to fresh aosp install, correct?
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Yeah, a restore or a fresh install has problems. If I install and then remove the sd card would it possibly boot then?
I'm still confused as to how the sd card can do everything else that it's supposed to but not talk to an aosp rom.
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AOSP uses the sd to operate, Sense does not.
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What I still don't understand then, if it is the SD card, why do I still have the problem with a different sd card?
Is it possible that it is hardware related, or something else, with the phone? I am able to read and write to the SD card when operating the phone, but the issue only appears to happen at boot.
This weekend I may try and unroot and then reroot, just incase some important files got corrupted. as the unroot would replace nearly everything it should fix the problem if it isn't hardware... I'm hoping.
Stumped... Hard to say.
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Well, I got tired of sense so I flashed the RUU, reloaded CWM 5.0.0.2 and restored my old rom... it worked. So now I'm fixed, yay.
Thanks for helping me troubleshoot it.
Ok guys, these are modded versions of TDJ's tools to add the preload partition. This should allow you to wipe cache and dalvik without jacking up the symlinks. Also for you guys having issues installing a ROM, the superwipe should fix that. First flash the ROM and reboot (important), then if you are having issues flash the super wipe and then the ROM again. Reboot and you should be good.
Thanks again TDJ!!! You rock bro.
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thx for this, i was annoyed by the preload problem.
Is this for CWM recovery or TWRP as well?
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Will work for both.
Thanks Jamison this will solve alot of headaches!
So whenever we want to wipe cache/dalvik use zip file instead of built in twrp??
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So whenever we want to wipe cache/dalvik use zip file instead of built in twrp??
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If on a TMo based 4.1.2 ROM, yes.
Whats the difference between the two downloads?
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Whats the difference between the two downloads?
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One is cache/dalvik, superwipe is data/factory reset.
Well before using the scripts ROM would not boot but after super wipe no problems, TWRP 2.5.0.0 :thumbup:
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Jamison-does the cache wipe also fix permissions?
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Yes it does.
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I used these scripts installing a ROM and I am having very serious issues. I was using Clockwork and when I rebooted I got stuck in a boot loop. I booted back into recovery but I was not getting fully back into recovery. I tried several times. I finally ODINed back to stock but I can't get the ****ing phone to boot up. It gets toa popup that says ""unfortunatley google partner setup has stopped" and then if I clear that "Google account manager has stopped", "google calender storage has stopped""unfortuantely the process com. android.phone has stopped". ****. I have tried ODIN to 3.5 stock and 4.0.3 both having similar issues.
Anyone have any idea, may have absolutley nothing to do with these scripts but any ideas would be very much appreciated.
What are you running and what are you trying to flash? Wouldn't be the scripts as they only wipe, format, align the partitions.
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What are you running and what are you trying to flash? Wouldn't be the scripts as they only wipe, format, align the partitions.
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I was running CWM 6.0.2.9 touch and trying to flash the StockWalk ROM. I don't know if you have seen something like this before but it seems like I am totally unable to install any GAPPS even when flashing stock ROM in ODIN. I had flashed the same ROM before attempting to use the scripts, the reason was that I was unable to add my google account (may be a defect in the ROM but others are saying they have not had issue).
*when I say install GAPPS I am just refering to the ones that install on TW ROMS, I am not flashing a GAPPS file of any kind
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thx for this, i was annoyed by the preload problem.
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If on a TMo based 4.1.2 ROM, yes.
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OK so I thought I knew enough to not feel like a noob, but here I am with three questions.
First question is what is a "preload problem"?
Second question is this will only work on 4.1.2, and not 4.2.2 (CM 10.1)?
And the third question is will using the original DS wipes mess something up?
T mobiles 4.1.2 loads a preboot partition. Wiping cache with anything but these scripts also wipes these partitions. This script is modified to not do that. No preboot partition = boot loop.
Thus, if you're on anything BUT Tmobiles 4.1.2 you don't need this script and there's no advantage to using it.
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