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[Q] full backup before upgrading to 2.2 > rooted with Unrevoked, now OTA fails

Hi all,
Sorry if this has been posted before... I have a desire still running on stock 2.1 (unrooted with launcherpro) which is perfect imho but I want to upgrade to 2.2 just to be "up to date".
Now I would like to take a FULL backup (rom, settings, apps, ...) before I execute the upgrade so I can go back if I want to.
What is the best/easiest way to do this and how can I restore my backup if needed?
*EDIT* Used unrevoked3 to root and backup my 2.1 install but now the OTA fails (see next page). Please help!
Thanks
B

U need to root first

Not true, both mybackup and titanium work without requiring root, you do however need paid versions of either app to make 'an at once backup' then restore the same way. Then the OP needs do create a Goldcard to be able to flash any generic wwe 2.2 ROM.
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They don't back up the system partition, though. You need root access to be able to copy those otherwise people wouldn't say do a nandroid before flashing any new ROM

ok so I need to find a root version of my original ROM right? But when I flash this ROM I will lose all my settings and apps I assume?

No
If you root your phone now you won't lose any settings as it just adds root access. You can then backup your phone as it is. You can then do the OTA update to 2.2 (I assume you will update using the prompted OTA, correct??) and your settings will still be intact

great, can you point me in the right direction on how to root my phone? Thx!

EddyOS said:
No
If you root your phone now you won't lose any settings as it just adds root access. You can then backup your phone as it is. You can then do the OTA update to 2.2 (I assume you will update using the prompted OTA, correct??) and your settings will still be intact
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If he's just going to OTA there's no need of backing anything up, nothing is lost!
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settings and preferences are indeed kept with an OTA upgrade but I want to backup my full 2.1 system before upgrading to 2.2 so I can restore exactly (apps, settings, preferences,...) the way it was
Can someone point me in the direction on how to root my stock phone please? I did this before on my HTC Magic but this involved flashing a rooted ROM which erased all my apps and settings
cheers
B
cheers
B

If you install the OTA update you will loose root and wont be able to restore your backup unless you root 2.2 again.

ste1164 said:
If you install the OTA update you will loose root and wont be able to restore your backup unless you root 2.2 again.
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yep I would imagine this is the case... any pointers on how to root my 2.1 (and the 2.2) so I don't lose all my apps and settings?
So far what I can find on the web is flashing new superuser rom's... this will erase my apps and settings so not really what I'm looking for.
Thx
B

root with unrevoked 3.21 is very easy..it root ur phone and install a custom recovery..u dont lost anything..
-with the custom recovery u can make a nandroid backup of ur 2.1
-then u can update the OTA 2.2
-if u dont like it and want come back, root again with unrevoked
-make an other nandroid backup, just in case
-restore the first backup u did (2.1)

andQlimax said:
root with unrevoked 3.21 is very easy..it root ur phone and install a custom recovery..u dont lost anything..
-with the custom recovery u can make a nandroid backup of ur 2.1
-then u can update the OTA 2.2
-if u dont like it and want come back, root again with unrevoked
-make an other nandroid backup, just in case
-restore the first backup u did (2.1)
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thanks I was just running the unrevoked3 while you posted (looking past the first couple of google hits sometimes helps)
My desire is now rooted so going for a nandroid backup now
thx!!

just an extra question: a nandroid backup is really a full backup of everything (applications, application preferences, settings, ...) right? Or should I take additional backups?
additional question: I can't seem to find my nandroid backup on my SD card? Normally this should be in the "nandroid" folder right? But I don't have this folder
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never mind, I found it, it's under /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/<timestamp>
I was confused about this one because timestamp is always 1 hour off
cheers
B

ok bad news... I started my OTA upgrade and at about 25% progress I get a picture of a droid and a triangle with exclamation mark.
When I press "menu" I get the Clockworkmod recovery menu and following info:
Clockworkmod recovery v2.5.0.7
Finding update package
Opening update package
Verifying update package
E: failed to verify whole-file signature
E: signature verification failed
Installation aborted
I reboot my phone but am still @ 2.1
Any idea's, does this have anything to do with the unrevoked thing?
Thx!
B

ok got it solved, here's what I did
1) I disabled signature verification in the Clockworkmod menu
2) launched the OTA file (which was saved in the "download" directory) from sd card via the Clockworkmod menu
3) after rebooting I got a message that I only had 20Mb available (needed 25) so I deleted angry birds and re-executed the steps 1 & 2
I got a message that the upgrade is successful, my settings seem to be back (launcherpro and stuff) so looking good...
pfieeuw
Now off to downloading angry birds again
PS Looks like I'm still root btw

Rooting issues

My evo got pretty ****ed over the past day, originally I rooted it by installing the hboot drivers then using unrevoked,I assumed everything would be done from there, I never got to flash Amon ra or any custom roms so I wanted to try it out, every guide I found involved using adb shell and a Tom of other steps I never used while originally rooting.
I got so fed up with all the error messages that I decided to start from the absolute beginning and root again and then try unlocking nand, one method involved me putting all these files on the sdcard and using adb a lot, I followed all if these steps exactly and DEFINITELY DID A NAND BACKUP but then after rebooting in one step my phone went back to eclair 2.1 and all my info was deleted and now its as if I bought it today, its not even rooted anymore so all the apps I backed up with titanium I can't even access anymore since it requires root
One step told me to do the nand restore and when I went the folder was empty, I would kill to have my old evo back or at least all my apps, any and all help would be HIGHLY appreciated
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If youre back on 2.1, just root it, put whatever recovery you used to make your nandroid on there and then restore your nandroid.
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I assumed onceI was on 2.1 I would be rooted again, I tried unrevoked once it was on 2.1 but it just stayed saying "running root" and never changed, and my nandroid restore didn't show up before so why would it now
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The root method you used was older, and was the way to go before Froyo was officially rooted. It involved downgrading (which you did) and then rooting 2.1 and then flashing a froyo ROM. It sounds like you made it to the downgrade part and then you stopped for whatever reason. You aren't in bad shape, you just need to get that 2.1 rooted and you're good to go.
As far as the nandroid is concerned, if you made it, then it should be there. You said you never got to flash a custom recovery but you must've if you were able to do a nandroid. Now if you made your nandroid with clockwork you won't be able to restore it with Amon and vice versa, which is where I think the confusion lies. Do you remember what recovery you made the nandroid with?
Your only real option at this point is to root your 2.1 and restore your nandroid with the correct recovery. Check your SD card, if there is a folder called Nandroid then it was made with Amon, and I'm pretty sure clockwork puts it's nandroid into a folder called Clockwork.
As far as why the root wasn't finishing, I'm not really sure because it's been a while since I used that method. It could be a driver issue. Have you installed the proper drivers?

_MetalHead_ said:
The root method you used was older, and was the way to go before Froyo was officially rooted. It involved downgrading (which you did) and then rooting 2.1 and then flashing a froyo ROM. It sounds like you made it to the downgrade part and then you stopped for whatever reason. You aren't in bad shape, you just need to get that 2.1 rooted and you're good to go.
As far as the nandroid is concerned, if you made it, then it should be there. You said you never got to flash a custom recovery but you must've if you were able to do a nandroid. Now if you made your nandroid with clockwork you won't be able to restore it with Amon and vice versa, which is where I think the confusion lies. Do you remember what recovery you made the nandroid with?
Your only real option at this point is to root your 2.1 and restore your nandroid with the correct recovery. Check your SD card, if there is a folder called Nandroid then it was made with Amon, and I'm pretty sure clockwork puts it's nandroid into a folder called Clockwork.
As far as why the root wasn't finishing, I'm not really sure because it's been a while since I used that method. It could be a driver issue. Have you installed the proper drivers?
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yae the recovery is where the whole issue began, i assumed i was good so i tried flashing amon RA with the terminal emulator and whenever i typed 'su' it always said permission denied, i was rooted for sure so some people said i had to probably unlock NAND and more errors came from there so i tried that other rooting method so i definitely flashed with clockwork and i remember seeing the build name on the bottom as well which makes me pretty happy as well since i found it in the directory which you said under my sdcard with the date name and whatnot so major kudos for that
i installed the hboot drivers before so i assumed i didnt need to do it again but when unrevoked kept staying at "running root" i tried installing again, and on this video online from djr3z he said under 'My Devices' that Android 1.0 would show up where I could click to install it but it never showed up so I've been stuck since that point, are there any other alternative root methods you recommend/should i try updating the drivers? or perhaps i can delete the driver and reinstall?

Check your hboot, are you S-ON or S-OFF? Also, what hboot version are you?

im definitely S-OFF, saw it all the time in the bootloader screen, how do i check the hboot version exactly?

R1pTheJacka said:
im definitely S-OFF, saw it all the time in the bootloader screen, how do i check the hboot version exactly?
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you load it up with volume down and power button, same way you go as if your going to boot into recovery

ok and my hboot version is .76.2000

can anyone confirm if .76.2000 is the latest hboot driver? everytime i connect my phone and check device manager it shows android bootloader interface which, from what i heard, is what im supposed to see
everytime i run unrevoked it stays at "running root..." and doesnt change from there

The latest hboot is 2.02 I believe but you don't want that one, I hear it's a pain to root. Yours is the engineering hboot which must have gotten put on there from whatever rooting method you were using. It's fine to leave that one on there, it will allow you to flash CM6 if you ever decide to. What happens when you select recovery from the hboot menu?
Have you tried downloading ROM manager from the market and using it to flash clockwork? I would give that a whirl.

when i select recovery from bootloader it gives me the black screen with the phone and red triangle, i started button mashing and it seemed like a recovery image but it said 'Android system recovery <2e>' with a few commands like wipe/reboot etc.
i was trying the clockwork before, i installed rom manager, then tried "Flash ClockworkMod Recovery" but it kept giving me error messages about attempting to run privilleged commands, assuming that means im not rooted again
i dont even think i have the clockwork recovery image on my sd card, it does however show my amon RA one, but there's no point in flashing that if the clockwork has my nandroid backup right? and couldn't i just put the clockwork recovery image on my sdcard from online somewhere?

Try this- Download THIS FILE, put it on the root of your SD card, and boot into hboot. It will automatically find it, load it and ask you if you want to run it. Choose yes and let it go. It *should* install clockwork recovery on your phone. If it doesn't work, no harm no foul and we can try something else. If it does work, you should be able to restore that nandroid that you made. It will only work if you are S-OFF, which you say you are so it's worth a shot.

okay and if it works, before i do the restore should i wipe everything?

It won't hurt but when doing a nandroid restore wiping is not necessary.

so close...your method worked, but i couldnt restore it gave me an error messgae..
ClockworkMod Recovery v2.5.0.1
Checking MD5 sums...
Erasing boot before restore...
Restoring boot image...
Error whille flashing boot image!
takes me back to the main menu of the recovery =\
do you think it has to do with me still being on 2.1 rather than 2.2?

So you now have clockwork on there? That's a step in the right direction! Try restoring your nandroid once more and if that doesn't work, you can flash a ROM and then restore your titanium backups.
It shouldn't matter what ROM you're on when restoring a nandroid. Do you remember what hboot version you were on when you made the nandroid? If I remember correctly that could cause an issue but I'm not entirely sure about that.

hmm i cant even get out of the bootloader screen now though..even when i reboot it takes me straight to bootloader
and also if i flash a rom will have to be designed for 2.1 since im still technically on that?

no idea about the hboot version =\ just assumed it was upgraded to the most advanced version when i updated the driver
but i cant even put any ROMs on my sdcard now because i cant even leave the bootloader screen?

No, flashing a 2.2 ROM will upgrade you from 2.1, it should work fine. You must have made your nandroid on a different hboot version then the one you have now.
What I would do in this situation is run the 3.29 RUU found HERE which will bring you back to full stock, and then you can run Unrevoked and reroot it. The whole process should only take you a half hour or so. I don't know if you will be able to restore your nandroid because of the hboot discrepancy, but at the very least you will be able to restore your titanium backups.

[Q] ESPRIMG.zip update in the Bootloader wipes phone?

I'm about to finish this rooting process to put a custom rom on my brothers phone, but I want to be sure he won't lose all of his data if I do the ESPRIMG.zip update...I'm just trying to play it safe before he hates me for losing all his data
If anyone can verify this for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want to mess this up if I can avoid it.
Using the exploid method, I got to the part where you get the # in the adb shell, indicating root. However, titanium backup and such apps would not yet run, so I had to continue to make the root permanent with full access(or so I understand), and have now found myself at this step. If this zip only enables us to flash clockwork without wiping all the data on the phone, that would be awesome. I just want to make sure that is true...I haven't seen the answer anywhere else. Thanks for the help guys!

I wouldn't think anything would be wiped until you flash a new rom or do a wipe yourself... but don't quote me on that... I've only rooted 3 devices and the Slide was back in December, haha. D:
Which leads me to a kind of on-topic question... How do people back up their stuff the first time around if they're not rooted? I'm sure it's something simple. I just kinda made a list of the stuff I had.
If it's something extraordinarily obvious, I'm sorry it's 5AM anddd... I should probably know anyways. xD

SefEXE said:
I wouldn't think anything would be wiped until you flash a new rom or do a wipe yourself... but don't quote me on that... I've only rooted 3 devices and the Slide was back in December, haha. D:
Which leads me to a kind of on-topic question... How do people back up their stuff the first time around if they're not rooted? I'm sure it's something simple. I just kinda made a list of the stuff I had.
If it's something extraordinarily obvious, I'm sorry it's 5AM anddd... I should probably know anyways. xD
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This is what I'm wondering. I've rooted a G1, G2, and nook color before (although the NC is completely automated and required no work really, as there was nothing to back up the first time around). On the G1, it was my first device obviously and I lost all my data when wiping and flashing a custom rom. In the G2 process, I was able to get apps like Ti Backup to run on the stock rom, so I was able to back up all my apps and data.
On this one, it's a bit different (at least for now), I want to know if performing that update in the bootloader will put an entirely different image on my phone, meaning I'd lose all the data that's currently on there.
It's not so much the apps, but all the application data that I'm worried about losing without warning him first...I don't want him to have to repeat all his work to get to the same spot he's currently at in angry birds or something

Its going to wipe the phone. How to back up data? Idk.
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I just did this myself, so take a noob's word for what it's worth.
Yes it will wipe the phone IF you tell it to do the update. If you want to back up your phone you first need to put ClockworkMod Recovery on your SD card and name it simply update.zip. When you load into the boot loader (Vol down + Power) select "Recovery" then something about "Apply from SD: Update.zip" and you will get into ClockworkMod Recovery where you can then do a Nandroid back up of your phone.

rohit275 said:
I'm about to finish this rooting process to put a custom rom on my brothers phone, but I want to be sure he won't lose all of his data if I do the ESPRIMG.zip update...I'm just trying to play it safe before he hates me for losing all his data
If anyone can verify this for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't want to mess this up if I can avoid it.
Using the exploid method, I got to the part where you get the # in the adb shell, indicating root. However, titanium backup and such apps would not yet run, so I had to continue to make the root permanent with full access(or so I understand), and have now found myself at this step. If this zip only enables us to flash clockwork without wiping all the data on the phone, that would be awesome. I just want to make sure that is true...I haven't seen the answer anywhere else. Thanks for the help guys!
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It completely wipes the phone. It REPLACES SPL, radio, recovery, rom, etc with the factory spec so the phone will be exactly as it was when first pulled out of the box.
Contacts, calendar, etc should be backed up to google. Apps can be downloaded again from the market and should be auto restored on sign-in to google.
Personal settings and data like texts, call logs, etc are gone though unless you use a program like Titanium Backup to save them.
The other thing you could do is root the stock rom, make a nandroid backup before flashing a custom rom and then if he wants to go back all he has to do is restore the nandroid backup and unroot with all his data preserved.

All right this is what i was suspecting. Is there any way to run titanium backup on the stock rom without wiping it first?
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rohit275 said:
All right this is what i was suspecting. Is there any way to run titanium backup on the stock rom without wiping it first?
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What do you mean? Titanium Backup requires root. You can use it in your custom rom to backup everything you want, then restore, reroot, then download titanium backup again and restore the data from your sdcard. If that doesn't answer your question please elaborate on what you are trying to accomplish so that I can help.
Where are you now? What steps did you take to get there? Where are you trying to get to and why?
EDIT - I've had an mt3g and an mt4g but never an espresso so i'm slightly out of my element. I reread the first post and it appears you have root but for whatever reason titanium isn't granted root access. Do you have superuser permissions installed? It can be installed from the market as long as you have root access.
Once you have clockwork (or amon ra) recovery installed you can make a nandroid backup of his stock rom without rooting it, but carrying all the data over to the new rom will require an app such as titanium or mybackup (free 30 day trial) from the market.
Hope that helps.

I guess it WILL then!
Yeah, this was the first device I rooted, so I just sorta flew through it. I was glad that it got rooted and I could put a rom on, so the loss of data wasn't TOO big to me.
And I've lost Angry Birds like... 4 times now, haha.

Phateless said:
What do you mean? Titanium Backup requires root. You can use it in your custom rom to backup everything you want, then restore, reroot, then download titanium backup again and restore the data from your sdcard. If that doesn't answer your question please elaborate on what you are trying to accomplish so that I can help.
Where are you now? What steps did you take to get there? Where are you trying to get to and why?
EDIT - I've had an mt3g and an mt4g but never an espresso so i'm slightly out of my element. I reread the first post and it appears you have root but for whatever reason titanium isn't granted root access. Do you have superuser permissions installed? It can be installed from the market as long as you have root access.
Once you have clockwork (or amon ra) recovery installed you can make a nandroid backup of his stock rom without rooting it, but carrying all the data over to the new rom will require an app such as titanium or mybackup (free 30 day trial) from the market.
Hope that helps.
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I am aware of all of that.
What I've done is use the exploid method to root until you get to the "#" prompt in the adb shell, after toggling wifi and running ./exploid twice. Then to continue in order to flash a custom rom, I've got to perform the update from the bootloader with ESPRIMG.zip. All I'm asking is that since I do have root through the exploid method, can I run Titanium Backup BEFORE I flash a custom rom, since technically it is possible to gain root access before flashing custom roms. I tried installing the app but it could not properly gain the access it needed. I think this probably has something to do with no superuser app being installed either.
Does it make sense what I'm asking? Thanks guys.

rohit275 said:
I am aware of all of that.
What I've done is use the exploid method to root until you get to the "#" prompt in the adb shell, after toggling wifi and running ./exploid twice. Then to continue in order to flash a custom rom, I've got to perform the update from the bootloader with ESPRIMG.zip. All I'm asking is that since I do have root through the exploid method, can I run Titanium Backup BEFORE I flash a custom rom, since technically it is possible to gain root access before flashing custom roms. I tried installing the app but it could not properly gain the access it needed. I think this probably has something to do with no superuser app being installed either.
Does it make sense what I'm asking? Thanks guys.
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Yeah I think so. I'll take a look at the root guide but if you have # in Terminal then you should have root. Try installing superuser and see what happens. Do you have a custom recovery installed yet? I think you'll need that to install superuser.
Why didn't you just try SuperOneClick? Much easier than all this.

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Yeah I think so. I'll take a look at the root guide but if you have # in Terminal then you should have root. Try installing superuser and see what happens. Do you have a custom recovery installed yet? I think you'll need that to install superuser.
Why didn't you just try SuperOneClick? Much easier than all this.
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The # in terminal disappears as soon as I try to exit, and whatever work you've done resets upon a reboot.
I don't have clockwork installed as of yet, because the guide says I've got to update the ESPRIMG.zip through the bootloader before I can do that. I'll try flashing clockwork first and installing superuser before I do anything else.
Does a one click root exist for the slide? I thought that it wasn't possible at this time. If that's the case I'm interested as long as it allows me to run Ti Backup and such and flash clockwork with s-off to do some backups before I go ahead and flash cyanogenmod. Thanks.
EDIT: As expected, can't flash clockwork update without flashing the ESPRIMG.zip update. If I can't run Titanium, it'd be nice to get a couple files out of /data/data before doing the wipe. I tried an adb pull which would not work from the /data partition. With the # prompt in terminal, I wanted to copy some of these files, but the "cp" command doesn't seem to work in terminal, but "mv" and "rm" do. Any way to copy files from within the adb shell? If I could move them to the SD card it would be nice.

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The # in terminal disappears as soon as I try to exit, and whatever work you've done resets upon a reboot.
I don't have clockwork installed as of yet, because the guide says I've got to update the ESPRIMG.zip through the bootloader before I can do that. I'll try flashing clockwork first and installing superuser before I do anything else.
Does a one click root exist for the slide? I thought that it wasn't possible at this time. If that's the case I'm interested as long as it allows me to run Ti Backup and such and flash clockwork with s-off to do some backups before I go ahead and flash cyanogenmod. Thanks.
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You know I'm not sure, I'd have to do more research. Will let you know when I figure it out.

[Q] cannot install busybox

i cannot install busybox on my htc desire. I rooted my desire using the unrevoked 3 method on the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788044
everything went fine and rootcheck says it's rooted.
i installed busybox installer from market and when i run install in the installer, i get an error message:
"the aplication failed, either because your device is not nand unlocked or we were unable to remount...."
any idea what this is? read somewhere unrevoked does not fully root your android?? is that true??
p.s. my htc desire also reboots after some minutes when i run busybox...

It says why, your nand is still locked (no write access to the system partition while booted). But I believe unrevoked also installs busybox.
You can try titanium backup to install busybox (by hitting problems) and you can also check with titanium backup if there is already a version installed.
If there is no version installed and titanium backup can install it either, manually install it via recovery or just flash a custom rom which already has busybox.

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It says why, your nand is still locked (no write access to the system partition while booted). But I believe unrevoked also installs busybox.
You can try titanium backup to install busybox (by hitting problems) and you can also check with titanium backup if there is already a version installed.
If there is no version installed and titanium backup can install it either, manually install it via recovery or just flash a custom rom which already has busybox.
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cool it seems titanium backup installed the busybox for like u said. thx

Unable to apply latest OTA Stock Update (or re-root now)

I've run into an issue that thus far I have been completely unable to resolve. I usually run Cyanogen Mod or other Custom ROM but decided to stick with stock on this one (I'm regretting it now). I am on Stock 4.1.2, Build JZ054K and previously had it rooted. I performed the un-root from within SuperSU so that I could apply the latest OTA, but the update still fails saying that my phone is suspected of rooting. At this point I decided to just re-root, stick Clockwork recovery on and move to Cyanogen Mod but so far every root method I've tried has failed.
Right now I am unable to OTA upgrade because it thinks it's still rooted and I can't re-root for some reason. I can't get a good Titanium Backup to save all of my data since it's not rooted and I have about exhausted my options and was about to do a factory reset when I thought about seeing if someone might have any ideas I could try.
Here are my re-root attempts (I've used every method I could find): I decided to boot into one of my Windows partitions instead of Linux since most of the root methods were windows based and with the E980-Universal-Root attempt: it found the device attached in Charge Mode, I then changed it to MTP and hit Enter (after waiting a few minutes as recommended in a number of the threads), then it it displays "adbd cannot run as root in production builds" and fails. I then tried the ZV9-ZVB-Root method (it looks like it's the same as the Universal Root and it gave the same error also). Then I attempted the motochopper method: it found the device, pushed the exploit successfully, pushed root tools successfully said it was rooting the phone then it stated [-] Failure and performed cleanup.
I'm not sure where to go from here, so I was hoping that some of the experts here could point me in a direction to go before I have to wipe it and lose my data since I can't even perform a Titanium Backup now.
I've been trying other backup methods but haven't found one that will give me a good backup like Titanium (saving the apps and data). If I can't get it rooted, does anyone know of a backup method that I could use to save the individual apps and data? Then I can just do a factory reset, root and move to a custom recovery and ROM like I really should have done at the beginning.
Thanks for any help at all, it is much appreciated!!

Check out the app called Helium (made by the same developer as clockworkmod and Rom manager and was formerly called Carbon). It should allow you to backup without root.
Also, look up the root method called towel root if you haven't yet. It will be an app that you install and it roots from there. I used it to root the latest update.
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Many thanks!! I hadn't run across towel root, I'll do some searching and find it and give it a try. I had just looked at Helium earlier today, that might just save me a huge hassle if towel root doesn't work!
Thanks again!!

Thank-You CapnPez!
TowelRoot worked fine, I can now update my Titanium Backups and move to CM...
Many Thanks! I appreciate the recommendation!!

JackMetal said:
Thank-You CapnPez!
TowelRoot worked fine, I can now update my Titanium Backups and move to CM...
Many Thanks! I appreciate the recommendation!!
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You're quite welcome and I'm glad it worked!
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