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I was wondering if the technology is available to connect an xbox controller to a WM7 phone. If this could be accomplished, Microsoft wouldn't have to stick to the terrible arcade game intergration, but could expand it to include Actual Xbox 360 games, downloaded as application games for retail prices (or less), or the games might be transferrable from your xbox (with the disk in it) to your phone as a one time download. This would truly make the WM7 phone the ultimate entertainment device, and it would distinguish it from any other phone company out there.
Any thoughts on how to make this happen, or if it's even possible?
In theory it's possible but you'd have to have a computer hooked up to the controller running a web service that the game communicates with. It would be much too slow to be useable.
So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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So a 2 ghz processor (which is potentially entering the market next year) and a 4g connection with Sprint wouldn't make this concept possible?
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no. Too much lag. Even on WiFi it would be too laggy for most games.
If Microsoft did a massive change in their policies or somehow sanctioned this, you would have to have some sort of hardware dongle connected to the phone that would allow the phone to communicate to the controller. Then you wouldn't have the lag. But that's not gonna happen.
Yea, the tech is there, but is it worth it? The addition steps and input latency would just ruin it. A Much easier concept would be using the wii mote or PS3 controller since they both have Bluetooth connectivity. There have already been hacks with android, winmo 6.5, and the Iphone where people have used the Wiimote/PS3 controller for gaming. I see no reason for it unless your running a console emulator.
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
Iridox said:
... or they could just make the controller with the proper port (likely microUSB) and just create a driver for it in WP7
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Still have the ol host-peripheral problem. Both devices are expecting to be a peripheral. The Xbox controller also expects to get power from the host. Possible? Most likely (depends on the hardware in the phone). Practical? Absolutely not.
As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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As long as the Phones will be able to play some of the more indy 3d games on xbox (the little $10 or less games on there) that should be enough. No reason to try and play Halo 3 on the phone, but a lot of those smaller games on the xbox actually are really dang good.
Could you imagine games like Geometry Wars 2, PvZ, Worms 2 Armageddon, Sam & Max, and countless others? Similar to some of the good iPhone games, but with DirectX 9 capable graphics, we can seriously get some good games ported. I have been dying for a full Worms game port (WM Worms World Party was a bit of a cut down letdown), and many other games that should have been ported but never were. Tyrian, Ultrabots, Red Alert 1, etc. Hopefully this OS will change some of that.
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good news is the games are all written in XNA so a port would be simple, its just up to the developers to do it & figure out touch controls
I can just imagine, the emulator ports you smart guys at xda will be able to come up with. I will have a mobile beast in my hands.
Have you guys searched Youtube for some of the awesome games already in production for WP7? Their are a lot of new guys making simple XNA games that look promising then their are games like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp7UHk1k4xY and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLLp6kLe1IA&feature=related and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZksEnvA_hQA&feature=fvwas well as Apps like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnkWbUxFqNk&feature=related coming out. Seriously sweet stuff.
no link to Harvest?
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PaperBall
Next War
Twin Blade
Grand Piano
Harvest looks alright but the rest looks like crap...
I was wondering if anyone can make a psp emulator for our galaxy s, I think its definatley vapable, even if it uses everything it would be a revoloutionary port and would be amazing. And something else that will be really good is if you could use a ps3 controller to play via bluetooth.
Im not into programing, if someone could.
highly unlikely imo, the PSX emulator barely runs on android, the PSP is on the same par as PS2 for graphics.
maybe if something was developed and tailormade to the galaxy range using the dedicated GPU...but even then i doubt it.
a good test will be when the n64droid eventually comes out.
correct me if im wrong.
Sony is looking at bringing the next PSP to the Android platform and making it primarily a Smart Phone and second function as a Game Device.
If we wait till then we will probably have our work done for us.
I say first optimize the DS emulator on the pc then port it over
I'm just considering my options.
I am a gamer. But from what I see on Wikipedia, the game base for this is very limited with crap ps1 games like jumping flash.... ammi rite?
Considering this vs. the new HTC One X.
Is there a successor to this phone coming soon?
Trying to get caught up on this model and series...
I see now, 228 games listed in the other forum.
Though, I was hoping for some quality PS1 games at least.
It would be sweet to be able to play my PSN purchased ps1 games or ps2 games. Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10 Silent Hills, Resident Evils, etc...
=(
Well you can also install emulators for other consoles.
And FPSE is is good for all your PS1 games.
I and one other person are also working on getting PSXPeria working again as alot of people are having problems. Which lets you play PS1 games on the native Xperia Play emulator for better compatibility. We're almost there. Once we're both tested it, I'll make a thread for it with detailed instructions.
Xperia Play is a great phone and gaming device. Can emulator the other consoles, so really the gamebase is HUGE.
typhoonikan said:
I see now, 228 games listed in the other forum.
Though, I was hoping for some quality PS1 games at least.
It would be sweet to be able to play my PSN purchased ps1 games or ps2 games. Final Fantasy 7,8,9,10 Silent Hills, Resident Evils, etc...
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or psxperia is good to a guide sorta thread will be up soon
typhoonikan said:
I'm just considering my options.
I am a gamer. But from what I see on Wikipedia, the game base for this is very limited with crap ps1 games like jumping flash.... ammi rite?
Considering this vs. the new HTC One X.
Is there a successor to this phone coming soon?
Trying to get caught up on this model and series...
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If your a gamer get the Xperia Play. It's cheaper and it's an all rounder. Loads of games on it as well.
Oh and Sonic 4 Episode 2 will be coming out on it as well sweet ! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521835
With the release of the Playstation Suite in April (probably along with our ICS update) we should hopefully see an increase in good quality games
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With the release of the Playstation Suite in April (probably along with our ICS update) we should hopefully see an increase in good quality games
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Spot on
I guess you should evaluate it from every angle.
Unfortunately, I think Xperia Play is already at the end of its support life. Probably from 2013 on we'll have almost no support, and I'm kinda willing to bet there'll be no official Jelly Bean for us (though we have a great team here at xda that surely will make it work for us) while HTC One X will probably receive support til 2014.
Besides, the hardware on One X seems better from the spec sheet.
On the other hand, Xperia Play works very well for the daily use and have this amazing touchpad that I love. Until it starts to be too laggy to work on a daily basis, I'm not willing to exchange it for any other device.
So, it's really your call and priorities. We'll be waiting you to join us!
Hi everybody!
I'm gonna to buy a new telephone and i am thinking to buy the Xperia Play but...
This smartphone was launched three years ago and his technical specifics are not """good""" at our times...i have got a HTC One S at this time,but i always wanted have an Xperia Play.
So finally...the question is...buy an Xperia Play can still have sense in 2014?
The telephone is still good for actual video games and PSone emulation?Or maybe is the case to spend my money in other powerful devices that they haven't a built-in pad?
well if i was you i wouldnt buy this phone
it can run psone games and some other games well but there are too many unsupported games that you can even think about that big number
i cant play most of the games that i want on this phone. lack of newer android versions is still here (but we are going to recive functional 4.4.4 build soon)
It's brilliant for emulation on gingerbread.
Anything up to PS1 and 'some' N64.
If that is your focus, then it is a perfect.
Everything else on the Xplay is adequate.
But it has obviously been bettered in every single department (apart from the physical controls) by other phones now.
It's heavy and bulky too.
Do not buy this phone it is terrible. Very slow and flex cable breaks easily. It is a lot less powerful than your htc one s.
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well flex cable doesn't broke that easily
i have the phone from the first days of release till now and after too many drops my flex cable is only damaged a little (when i open the gamepad you will see black screen for a very short time)
but i agree about the speed. its awful. but kitkat is running well for atleast till i receive my m8(i declined the order and im going to buy it from a shop soon)
If you have a one s there is no point at all of buying an xperia play.
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I just bought one for pocket gaming and emulation and think it's the perfect device for just that. As far as phone functionality goes, I would not use it. Don't get me wrong, the devs probably have awesome options for a daily driver, but modern hardware just beats it fair and square as far as I can tell.
My advice, do what I did and find a cheap one on eBay and use it as a WiFi only gaming device on the go and buy a newer phone for everyday use. Maybe just stick with the phone you have and get a Bluetooth controller, but in my opinion, avoid this for a daily driver unless you are absolutely are certain you want it.
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I just bought one for pocket gaming and emulation and think it's the perfect device for just that. As far as phone functionality goes, I would not use it. Don't get me wrong, the devs probably have awesome options for a daily driver, but modern hardware just beats it fair and square as far as I can tell.
My advice, do what I did and find a cheap one on eBay and use it as a WiFi only gaming device on the go and buy a newer phone for everyday use. Maybe just stick with the phone you have and get a Bluetooth controller, but in my opinion, avoid this for a daily driver unless you are absolutely are certain you want it.
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other than speed 4g vs 4glte and camera options and heavy gaming, why can't this phone be a daily driver if you're doing normal stuff?
I check facebook, gmail app works great, internet is fine, calls are great, and gaming (there's over 450+ optimized games plus all the emulation from Mame, snes, etc. i'm using the ginkitkat rom it it's been updated this year and a new update is coming.
if you're doing normal stuff, I think this phone still rocks.
Absolutelly agree. Most of people are doing the same thing for last five years - browsing internet, checking mails and "facebooking" + calll and SMS - and they still need better and better phones. Galaxy S3 is old, I need S5, because it has so many features I will never use. Of course that make sense.
Flex - I have second Xplay now. On first I broke my touchscreen, so I sold it and bought new before an year. The old one I had one and a half year and never had any problem with flex and my phone fell on the floor many times.
Games - Until 2013 I could play almost everything (even Asphlat 8). Only few games were for 4.0+ or they were slow on Play. In 2014 this phone is really out - after three years it was awaited. Most of newer games are for 4.0+ and are too much HW hungry and if they are for 2.3+ then without Xplay controller support (I remember only Trials Frontier in last half year where controller works). But most of big games with Xplay support and smooth gameplay are from 2011 and 2012 - GTA 3, Vice City, Max Payne, Asphalt 6, 7, Modern Combat 3, 4, Gangastar Rio, NOVA 2, 3 and all other big game from Gameloft, Shadowgun, Battlefield, FIFA 12 (I think this is the best game for Xplay), Dead Trigger 1 and 2 (it was recompilled for 2.3 by fans), Reckless Racing 1, 2, Mini Motor Racing, Virtua Tennis, NFS Most Wanted, Race of Champions etc. And few bigger games from 2013 like Carmageddon, Gangstar Vegas or Re-volt have Xplay support too. I hate playing games like racing, FPS on touchscreen and for this is no better alternative.
Emulation - I spent days only by playing Advance Wars from Gameboy Advance and Colin McRae Rally 2 from PS1. Official PS1 emulator from Sony can handle only small amount of games, but FPSe and ePSXe - this combination run everything. And there are many other emluators - I tried only Gameboid for Gameboy Advance and some N64 emulators (not much succeded), but if you want you can play 10 years only games from old systems. I played only Advance Wars, Tony Hawks serie, ColinMc Rae, Granturismo, NHL 2001 and FIFA 2000 (nostalgy, FIFA 12 is much better) - and even these are fun for hundred hours.
Speed - It is slow? Absolute nonsense. I tried Galaxy S3, Xperia T, we have Nexus 7 at home and I can say Xplay has as fluid system reaction as any of them. Of course, it has only 512MB RAM so if you want to play games you cannot have Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed cause they are absolutely crazy optimized. I'm using Gin2Kittkat last year with Lupus GB v12 (480p) and Smartwatch MN2. I customized this ROM, make some changes in lupus menu and it is so smooth.
I love my Play. I got it for Christmas in 2012. It would be nice to have more RAM, internal storage and 4G, but they aren't deal breakers in my opinion. Mupen64 plays some N64 games well with the touch pads, and N64oid is compatible with more games using the D-Pad. I am seriously considering buying another one when mine dies.
I would personally say no and get a more recent phone, the Xperia Play hardware does well with most emulators but I have noticed it struggles with newer Android games, even with a custom ROM. Not to mention the poor battery life as well, makes it hard to use as a phone.
Buying a phone with a bluetooth gamepad will be my advice. I have the HTC One M7 and use a Moga Pro gamepad with it, and while I find gaming on it great, I do have to admit I miss using the Xperia Play's built in gamepad. If you do plan to go this route, I suggest getting a phone with dual front facing stereo speakers, it makes the gaming experience much better.
if you're a gamer, the xperia play is still the best phone for the gaming experience. yes there are newer games out there, and my wife owns the new htc one, but the gaming experience doesn't come no where near the xplay. you just have to find games you haven't played (there's over 450+ optimized games). you could buy the gamepad but it defeats the purpose imo.
asphalt 8 on my z tablet doesn't beat 6 on the xperia play. neither does fifa 14 on any phone beat fifa 12 on the xperia play in terms of the experience. if bigger screens, better pictures for facebook, faster speeds and 4glte is your thing, yes the newer phones are the way to go. in terms of pure gaming, xperia play still rules. star battalion, bruce lee, and now king of fighters 98 , pew pew, mini moto, gun commando, plus a ton of emulations are just games on the xperia play that no stock phone can take. there isn't a new game out there that has made me switch yet.
Of course the kids are clamoring about these for christmas but I wanted to get input from you actual owners about what things you could do with your note 4 with either one.
I know with the ps3 you could stream video I believe but I'm not familiar with these new consoles.
I own a ps4. There's a playstation companion app that you can use a sort of a touchpad (with limited capabilities), as well as start downloads etc from the playstation store from the phone. I used to own a Xbox 360 but I feel the smart glass app for the Xbox one is more feature rich than the playstation offering. That being said both apps have their limitations and do not make or break the console experience. As far as extra features such as media streaming (from you device) believe it or not the ps3 has both of them beat, Google it. Just go for whatever console you feel is better in terms of games because there are no killer features (well Sony xperia phones can do second screen remote play but it's only for Sony phones) as of yet.
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Of course the kids are clamoring about these for christmas but I wanted to get input from you actual owners about what things you could do with your note 4 with either one.
I know with the ps3 you could stream video I believe but I'm not familiar with these new consoles.
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cant beat Xbox SmartGlass
also they update this app so often with features it nuts. there is also a Beta version to try stuff as they test it HERE
also i just broke 1,000 posts and just realized it. i need to seriously look at my time here
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I don't have a ps4 but the xbox smartglass app works great for the 360 or the xbox one.
Each console has a separate app.