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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
I usually wipe system, cache, and dalvik that way I keep all my dl app but some wipe data also. U can wipe boot as well.
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Whay exactly does a full wipe consist of? Using RA 2.3 recovery.
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A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
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A full wipe, in preparation to flash a new rom would consist of wiping:
data/factory reset
cache
dalvik cache
boot
system
I always wipe everything 2 or 3 times. I also flash Calkulin's Format All after wiping all of the above. That might be overkill, but it makes me feel better before I flash a rom, lol. You get a completely clean start.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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What would happen if i wiped everything and rebooted? not that i wanna try it or anything just curious
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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If you tried to boot after wiping what I mentioned, you will either hang at the splash screen or it will boot you right to fastboot (not sure really though, as I've never tried, but it wouldn't boot, for sure). Since it wipes system and boot image, there would be nothing installed for you to boot into. Btw, I would avoid trying that lol.
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My definition of a full wipe using amon RA is EVERYTHING in the wipe menu except the SD card and when I flash a different rom, I wipe everything on that list with the exception of the card itself. Technically speaking, however, the list that k2buckley posted is correct.
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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He asked what a FULL wipe was. Not if it was necessary or required. And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc.
Oh well, we all have our own methods and rituals for flashing, lol. I will stick to my methods, and everyone else can use theirs.
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Papa Smurf151 said:
That's crazy. Wiping everything like that is over kill. No need to wipe data as its all the apps that uve downloaded from the market. The only ones really needed are dalvik, cache, boot, and system. And I've only ever had to do it one time then flash a rom and it works everytime plus I have all my data and apps there still
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It may very well be overkill, however, that is my method and it has served me well and has saved me a great deal of unnecessary troubleshooting. But hey, to each his or her own, right? Take care and enjoy the rest of your night....
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.....And not wiping data when going from one rom to a different one (not an update of the same rom, but to a totally different rom) has ALWAYS left me with weird issues, such as wake locks, cm Widgets on salvage mod, reboots etc......
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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Same here, my friend.........and when I change roms, I don't want any remnants of the previous one.
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I agree as well; I only restore my apps with data and my launcher settings, [person preference].
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever. The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market. So wiping it in recovery makes little sense. I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem. Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I'm guessing u know this but have u ever looked at ur data folder with root exployer or what ever.
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Yes, i have.
The app folder might have 5-6 apps in it and the app-private folder holds the apps u dl from market.
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Not with my current setup. My data/apps/ folder contains ALL of my 3rd party apps except Anfry Birds Rio and my app-private folder is empty.
So wiping it in recovery makes little sense.
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Yes and No.
I've flashed plenty of different roms without wiping data and never had a problem.
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I believe you and don't have a problem with you doing it that way, however, like you, I, too, have flashed a great deal of roms and my method has also served me well. It is not wrong for me to use my method. It's just a matter of preference and nothing more.
Plus on an upnote all ihave to do is flash the roms and gapps if needed and restart and that's it. No need to sit there for an hour restoring apps or settings
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I understand, but, I do not sit for hours restoring my apps. My apps are restored within minutes. Anyway, I appreciate your viewpoint. Take care and have a great night.....
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New to XDA, first post ever. Has anyone tried the new Kingdom Sensless 3d release and if so can you tell me if youtube is working as well as 720p video recording? Tried to post this in the developer section under the proper thread but it wouldnt let me since im new. Would love to know overall thoughts on this release as well. Thank you!
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I believe YouTube works with a workaround (wifi has to be on but not necessarily connected), but 720p isn't functional yet.
is my daily driver everything is working fine there is a lag on the 720 but the devs have explained that is do to the fact that they dont have the codes or something to build new kernels.. youtube works just fine... if you haven't try it yet just flash it... you wont regret it..
Sounds good. Thank you. And just to be sure, i boot into recovery, do a factory restore, wipe cache, then install the zip from sd card. Is that the proper method to install this or will that screw up my phone? Thanks again!
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Also, i currently have a different sense 3.0 rom installed. Do i have to flash back to the stock rom before i attempt to install a new one or can i flash a new rom over the one i currently have installed? Thanks again peeps!
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No you don't go back to stock before flashing, yes go to recovery do factory reset, then go to mounts and storage and wipe boot, system, data, cache go back under advanced & wipe dalvik. Now you can install your ROM
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Thanks very much. Interestingly, when i go into recovery it brings me to a clockwork recovery screen where i cant do some of the things u mentioned. I only have the options to do a factory reset and wipe cash. Is that enough? Does it matter what order u do them in? I also noticed that in titanium backup there is an option to delete the dalvic from there. Is that ok to do?
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Thanks very much. Interestingly, when i go into recovery it brings me to a clockwork recovery screen where i cant do some of the things u mentioned. I only have the options to do a factory reset and wipe cash. Is that enough? Does it matter what order u do them in? I also noticed that in titanium backup there is an option to delete the dalvic from there. Is that ok to do?
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Go into advance in cwm to wipe delvic
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Also, you can format system in the mounts and storage menu. The rom's install script should include this, but never hurts to be safe.
I have just installed cm7 onto my epic 4g. I have been trying to get the stock apps, ie gmail, market, etc.. I love the rom but I guess it didn't come with the bloat ware.. is there anyway to get them? I cannot add a gmail account either, server won't respond.
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I have just installed cm7 onto my epic 4g. I have been trying to get the stock apps, ie gmail, market, etc.. I love the rom but I guess it didn't come with the bloat ware.. is there anyway to get them? I cannot add a gmail account either, server won't respond.
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Don't the instructions mention to flash the gapps? I remember reading that when I installed it. I know there is only a google search link for gapps now. Gapps as in Google Apps.
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So I'm using ROM manager and it has the gapps listed however after it finishes I get the options to "Back Up ROM, Wipe Data and Cache and Wipe Dalvik Cache". Is this the proper way to get these apps to work? If so, which option would I choose? I am kinda a noob to roms so this is a little confusing for me.
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So I'm using ROM manager and it has the gapps listed however after it finishes I get the options to "Back Up ROM, Wipe Data and Cache and Wipe Dalvik Cache". Is this the proper way to get these apps to work? If so, which option would I choose? I am kinda a noob to roms so this is a little confusing for me.
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If you want to backup the ROM then fine, otherwise wipes are not even required. I don't wipe at each upgrade at all. It never hurts anything to wipe Dalvik and cache and can only help.
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Ok so I had attempted to back up my ROM however it froze so I had taken the batterie out and now I cannt get into recovery mode at all, it just goes back to that frozen screen where it was attempting to back up the ROM. Any ideas how I can fix that?
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So I fixed that but now when I use the market, no app will download due to an unknown error.. any ideas?
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Try clearing data in the market app. Use Titanium.
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Hi everyone. I used TWRP to make a backup of my CM10 nightly so I could flash a TW rom and be able to boot between the two by using the recoveries. Backed up CM10 no problem. Wiped/installed the TW rom (FreeGS3) successfully and it booted just fine. Used it for a little, then I restored my CM10 backup and it just shows the CM10 boot animation and nothing else is happening. I noticed that it made 2 data archives while backing up, but thought nothing of it. Upon further review, I discovered that I can boot with just the 1 data file restored but once I restore the 2nd data file, I get the endless boot animation. Is there anything I can do to solve this? I really need the data I have on here for school and it annoys me that it's sitting in a file that I can't restore!
I posted a question about this same type of issue yesterday here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31573026
...and nobody has seemed to give a crap. But I too have been having trouble restoring my CM10 nandroids. I dunno what the deal is. It's weird.
Also I posted the question in the CM10 nightly thread, and all I got was, "TWRP works fine for me. TWRP restores fine for me. Blah, blah, blah...
Although did read in other places, rootzwiki and around google that TWRP has been known to not restore CM10 nands well for some reason. Something having to do with it not restoring the kernel data well. And the only way around it is to reflash whatever kernel you were using. Kind of a drag. But I'm with you, my TW rooms have been restoring just fine, but the CM10s have been a mess.
Considering switching back to CWM.
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I posted a question about this same type of issue yesterday here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31573026
...and nobody has seemed to give a crap. But I too have been having trouble restoring my CM10 nandroids. I dunno what the deal is. It's weird.
Also I posted the question in the CM10 nightly thread, and all I got was, "TWRP works fine for me. TWRP restores fine for me. Blah, blah, blah...
Although did read in other places, rootzwiki and around google that TWRP has been known to not restore CM10 nands well for some reason. Something having to do with it not restoring the kernel data well. And the only way around it is to reflash whatever kernel you were using. Kind of a drag. But I'm with you, my TW rooms have been restoring just fine, but the CM10s have been a mess.
Considering switching back to CWM.
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So am I basically screwed? I have my notes and stuff for school saved on there and I kinda need them, and about 40,000 text messages. :/ Did yours make 2 data archives?
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So am I basically screwed? I have my notes and stuff for school saved on there and I kinda need them, and about 40,000 text messages. :/ Did yours make 2 data archives?
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Actually I only get one data archive. But someone somewhere did mention something about using the "extract from nandroid" option in Titanium Backup. I haven't tried it yet, but supposedly it works. I think there's other "extract from nandroid" app on the market if I'm not mistaken.
As of right now, I'm about to email the Team Win development team to ask them about the issue. Maybe they can tell me what's going on. Cuz it's only recently this started happening with the restoring of CM10 nandroids, at least for me.
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Actually I only get one data archive. But someone somewhere did mention something about using the "extract from nandroid" option in Titanium Backup. I haven't tried it yet, but supposedly it works. I think there's other "extract from nandroid" app on the market if I'm not mistaken.
As of right now, I'm about to email the Team Win development team to ask them about the issue. Maybe they can tell me what's going on. Cuz it's only recently this started happening with the restoring of CM10 nandroids, at least for me.
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Yeah I've used TWRP to make CM10 backups and this is the first time that this has happened to me and of course it happens when I need it most! I flashed a TW rom so I could flash the corporate PRL (24006). I went to restore my backup and bam, no boot.
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Yeah I've used TWRP to make CM10 backups and this is the first time that this has happened to me and of course it happens when I need it most! I flashed a TW rom so I could flash the corporate PRL (24006). I went to restore my backup and bam, no boot.
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Same thing happened with me. Did the whole Prl thing, and now they're not restoring well. Happened to me with trying to restore the last three CM10s I've ttied to restore. I dunno if the Prl change would have anything to do with it. Although I did get one to settle down after wiping cache and delvik twice, and fix permissions.
But gonna try it again tonight.
Also, I emailed team win and linked them back to here. Hopefully we'll hear back soon.
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Same thing happened with me. Did the whole Prl thing, and now they're not restoring well. Happened to me with trying to restore the last three CM10s I've ttied to restore. I dunno if the Prl change would have anything to do with it. Although I did get one to settle down after wiping cache and delvik twice, and fix permissions.
But gonna try it again tonight.
Also, I emailed team win and linked them back to here. Hopefully we'll hear back soon.
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I tried changing the PRL back to what it was before the backup and it still doesn't boot unfortunately. :/ Luckily I backed up the TWRP backup to my computer so I don't have to worry about losing it. Does your boot animation just keep playing over and over again after it reboots?
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I tried changing the PRL back to what it was before the backup and it still doesn't boot unfortunately. :/ Luckily I backed up the TWRP backup to my computer so I don't have to worry about losing it. Does your boot animation just keep playing over and over again after it reboots?
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Yeah it does. For the 3rd one I tried restoring, it at least booted into the rom, but once I started using it, it would force close after a couple minutes. And it would do that over and over. Until I wiped cache and delvik.
Was going to try doing a nandroid with the same prl and restoring. Cuz I've only experienced this problem when I've tried to restore a nandroid with the old prl.
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Also, here's a link to Nandroid Browser. This should help you to get your stuff for school.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser
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Yeah it does. For the 3rd one I tried restoring, it at least booted into the rom, but once I started using it, it would force close after a couple minutes. And it would do that over and over. Until I wiped cache and delvik.
Was going to try doing a nandroid with the same prl and restoring. Cuz I've only experienced this problem when I've tried to restore a nandroid with the old prl.
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Also, here's a link to Nandroid Browser. This should help you to get your stuff for school.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.goddchen.android.nandroidbrowser
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For the third what you tried restoring? And the nandroid browser doesn't see anything in my CM10 TWRP backup folder.
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For the third what you tried restoring? And the nandroid browser doesn't see anything in my CM10 TWRP backup folder.
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For the 3rd nandroid, once it booted up, I immediately booted into recovery and wiped cache and delvik, and rebooted. I did that like three times before it settled down a bit. But ultimately it didn't fix it 100%. I still got FCs. Just not as frequent.
But I finally restored a couple "new" nandroids with the same prl, and I had no problems. I really think it had something to do with the two prls clashing.
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For the 3rd nandroid, once it booted up, I immediately booted into recovery and wiped cache and delvik, and rebooted. I did that like three times before it settled down a bit. But ultimately it didn't fix it 100%. I still got FCs. Just not as frequent.
But I finally restored a couple "new" nandroids with the same prl, and I had no problems. I really think it had something to do with the two prls clashing.
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But I have gone back into my TW rom and updated the PRL back to what my CM10 backup has it and still won't boot. I have narrowed it down to just being the data archives not restoring properly because it will boot if I don't restore data at all, just that I have nothing on there for data. Is there a way I can restore without data, then restore the data while booted into CM10?
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But I have gone back into my TW rom and updated the PRL back to what my CM10 backup has it and still won't boot. I have narrowed it down to just being the data archives not restoring properly because it will boot if I don't restore data at all, just that I have nothing on there for data. Is there a way I can restore without data, then restore the data while booted into CM10?
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To be honest, I'm stumped about your situation. Because I'm not sure why your old back up is not restoring for you, even tho you change prl back. Cuz my remedy was basically to delete all my old cm10 back ups and start fresh with some new nandroids. And they all seem to be restoring well now that haven't changed the prl. But I know you want to try and salvage your old data. At this point, I'd try and email Team Win and tell them about your situation. They may be able to give you some more tips.
PS . I'm still waiting for a response from the email I sent a couple says ago.
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To be honest, I'm stumped about your situation. Because I'm not sure why your old back up is not restoring for you, even tho you change prl back. Cuz my remedy was basically to delete all my old cm10 back ups and start fresh with some new nandroids. And they all seem to be restoring well now that haven't changed the prl. But I know you want to try and salvage your old data. At this point, I'd try and email Team Win and tell them about your situation. They may be able to give you some more tips.
PS . I'm still waiting for a response from the email I sent a couple says ago.
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Basically it restores fine as long as I don't restore the data files, which are kinda important. :banghead:
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By the way, I just threw my CM10 backup on my SD card to see if it would work and it's currently restoring so I'll let you know if it works. I'm just trying anything at this point!
EDIT: It's restoring archive 2 right now! That never happened before. This should be good. So anxious!
OMG IT WORKED! I'M SO HAPPY! drewmonge, put the backup on your SD card and restore and it will work!
It's the kernal. I had the same problem but just from switching between TW and ASOP roms. Flash a new kernal made for whatever type (asop or tw) you're trying to install and it'll work. Mine happened on a s4 though, but I bet same base problem.
I cannot access the bottom right of my screen where this ')' is. Any fix? It worked before on other roms, clean flash and everything wiped.
Screen is cut off? Or touch input not functioning?
there is no spoon.....
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Screen is cut off? Or touch input not functioning?
there is no spoon.....
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The screen is there, but when i touch the screen nothing happens.
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The screen is there, but when i touch the screen nothing happens.
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Do you have pie enabled?
Sent from an infamous phone.
How do you disable it
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Jedi ROM tricks > LMT > start/stop service
But if you don't know how to disable it then chances are its not enabled.
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Is there a way to uninstall pie? It won't disable.
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Is there a way to uninstall pie? It won't disable.
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Freeze with titanium backup?
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Bootloop after Jedi Mind Trick 3 Install
Performed a full system wipe - Factory Reset/Data Wipe, format /system, Wipe Dalvik Cache - using CWM. Flashed ROM, Fixed Permissions, then rebooted. Waited 10 minutes (actually more like 20 minutes) but was stuck in a bootloop. The loading bar almost completely fills in each time (only a small fraction - i.e. about 0.5mm - remains unfilled) before the reboot occurs automatically. I read else where on the SGH-T989 forum of similar problems with 2.0. Someone said that wiping the data caches before AND after flashing the ROM always works for them. I assume they mean format /data cache and Wipe Dalvik Cache after flashing ROM but I'm not sure. Anyone have any experience here?
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Performed a full system wipe - Factory Reset/Data Wipe, format /system, Wipe Dalvik Cache - using CWM. Flashed ROM, Fixed Permissions, then rebooted. Waited 10 minutes (actually more like 20 minutes) but was stuck in a bootloop. The loading bar almost completely fills in each time (only a small fraction - i.e. about 0.5mm - remains unfilled) before the reboot occurs automatically. I read else where on the SGH-T989 forum of similar problems with 2.0. Someone said that wiping the data caches before AND after flashing the ROM always works for them. I assume they mean format /data cache and Wipe Dalvik Cache after flashing ROM but I'm not sure. Anyone have any experience here?
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Don't hijack ariana's thread.
If you used anything but jamisons wipes that's your problem.
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Don't hijack ariana's thread.
If you used anything but jamisons wipes that's your problem.
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Thanks. I found the darkside wipe files and downloaded them. Then I read elsewhere that if you have the up-to-date CWM version (6 or later), it will do the same thing accomplished by the darkside wipes. Do you know if this is a fact? Thanks again.
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Thanks. I found the darkside wipe files and downloaded them. Then I read elsewhere that if you have the up-to-date CWM version (6 or later), it will do the same thing accomplished by the darkside wipes. Do you know if this is a fact? Thanks again.
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It may work as long as you choose to not wipe the preload. I wouldn't chance it tho...just use jamisons wipes.
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tibu stuff is on sd-card u cannot lose it.
darkside super wipe is to clear pre-load cache for roms that built fr stock....
newer versions of cwm will work if not use Jamison's super wipe
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tibu stuff is on sd-card u cannot lose it.
darkside super wipe is to clear pre-load cache for roms that built fr stock....
newer versions of cwm will work if not use Jamison's super wipe
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