XBOX Controller and OTG help. - Xoom Accessories

I've been at my brother's house this week and today I told him about the OTG cable that I have on the way from China (Might actually be at my house by now, but since I haven't been home since Monday, I won't know until I get back.) that I can use to hook crap up to my XOOM. He said that he might have one from an old Nokia, and sure enough after some digging around in his office, we found the sucker. I hooked up a mouse, keyboard and his DSLR and all of them worked fantastically (The DLSR/Gallery thing is AWESOME!).
Anyways, we just tried to hook up an XBOX 360 controller to play some old Nintendo games (RIP Market *oid emus. You will be missed.) And...It doesn't work! I've looked all over XDA and the internetz and it seems that everyone else has been able to get theirs to work without issues.
The controller is a rechargable wireless controller with a wired USB cable (The one that charges it and also lets you play plugged in to the USB on the XBOX). So, is this the wrong kind of controller for this? Should I get a regular wired XBOX 360 controller?
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Most of what I've seen of people using the 360 controller on their Xoom involves the wireless USB dongle that MS sells. Can't say for 100% sure though since I don't have an OTG cable to test with.

Wrong kind of controller. The play and charge kit does not enable USB data transfer. I tried this before and found others on the web with the same idea that all failed.
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doesnt work for me.it never sync with the usb cable. maybe it needs a special driver or something.

Wired controller only. Or wireless controller with PC dongle.

What games can you play on the Xoom with an Xbox controller?

Emulators
keitht said:
What games can you play on the Xoom with an Xbox controller?
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gqstatus0685 said:
Emulators
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Thanks. The same ones that Google removed from the market?

keitht said:
Thanks. The same ones that Google removed from the market?
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Yeah. I saved mines in Titanium Backup and restored them. You can always get them by googling them. You can then go to coolroms.com to get ROM's or play your backups.

yeah I was hoping to be able to play games like pew pew 2, and gun bros but apparently the developers need to catch up on this feature, I imagining that in the near future more games will support this feature... i'm waiting too.

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Game Grip

Hey. I just saw that game grip has a request form for requesting what devices they should make it for.
I submitted a request for the X. I was hoping if we get enough people to request one maybe they will produce it.
The gamegrip is a controller addpn for android phones.
Here is the form
http://sites.google.com/site/gamegripper/other-phones/request-form
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I did as well but then I saw how the product is made. It is just plastic that goes over a physical keyboard. Since the DX does not have that I would not count on getting one.
Wii controller works perfectly fine. If you need the extra buttons you can plug the super controller into the wii stick.
Its nice because you dont have to block any of your screen while playing.
Edit: Could you imagine something covering your screen that give you the ability to use all the SNES or PSX buttons. That would not be enjoyable.
I wish we could get a PS3 controller working with it. That way you have all the possible buttons, without having a device plugged into another.
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I wish we could get a PS3 controller working with it. That way you have all the possible buttons, without having a device plugged into another.
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention the fact that most people who are into roms, etc are more likely to have a ps3 than a wii
It would be nice for some one to develop an add on that snaps to the bottom of the DX and plugs into the micro usb port. Its nice to have a hold of the device instead of trying to prop it up some how.
BUT having a ps3 controlling the device streaming HDMI to my tv would be SICK.
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It would be nice for some one to develop an add on that snaps to the bottom of the DX and plugs into the micro usb port. Its nice to have a hold of the device instead of trying to prop it up some how.
BUT having a ps3 controlling the device streaming HDMI to my tv would be SICK.
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The day that happens with an update for psx4droid to fix sound, will be the day I quit my Job and buy a case of red bull !
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THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not to mention the fact that most people who are into roms, etc are more likely to have a ps3 than a wii
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for what reason would ppl more likely have ps3? wii is easily modded to play roms, ps3 only just last week and is very expensive.
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for what reason would ppl more likely have ps3? wii is easily modded to play roms, ps3 only just last week and is very expensive.
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A little off topic, but I really don't see how you'd be more likely to have a PS3, I am into playing old Nintendo games, I can run them all on my Wii. I have a PSOne and PS2 but no PS3 and could care less about emulation on that system.

Compatible Bluetooth Gaming Accessories

Dont suppose you nice folks could give us the make/models of any Bluetooth gamepads that you have got working or have found to not work on honeycomb 3.1. I only know the datel one but I'm looking for a more ergonomic PC pad
Thanks in advance
There really aren't any blue tooth gamepads
I would rename the thread to: Compatible Bluetooth Gaming Accessories. You'll probably get more views and get it eventually stickied.
I do remember a bluetoooth gaming pad from Pelican.
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Had a bit of a look into it and you're right, all the Bluetooth stuff seems to be for ps3. Fingers crossed Logitech will do a controller aswell as the keyboard and mouse they're about to bring out!
Thanks for the advice
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Is this the one gqstatus?
http://mobile.buy.com/ibuy/Product.aspx?loc=108&sku=202486404
Wonder if anyones tried it with a xoom?
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i suppose that would work. Looks kinda awful though.
Yes that's the one. I remember seeing it at Radioshack or Gamestop. Try eBay and see I'm pretty sure there are more. I'm willing to bet eBay has a couple from China.
I found this on eBay. It's a bluetooth DualShock controller. I don't know if it's a knockoff but it could be despite having the PlayStation Logo in the middle.
http://bit.ly/mOEEav
That's the link for the bid. I would imagine that works. I wish someone on here has tried this before. I want to know if you're able to map all the keys without issues.
I found on amazon the komodo shockwave wireless wii controller.. wonder if this would work...??
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I found this on eBay. It's a bluetooth DualShock controller. I don't know if it's a knockoff but it could be despite having the PlayStation Logo in the middle.
http://bit.ly/mOEEav
That's the link for the bid. I would imagine that works. I wish someone on here has tried this before. I want to know if you're able to map all the keys without issues.
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It will not work. PS3 controllers require being synced up via USB. On the xoom, it would require that and an app. There is no sync button on PS3 controllers.
wiesman2613 said:
I found on amazon the komodo shockwave wireless wii controller.. wonder if this would work...??
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That is a gamecube controller aimed for a Wii market. It will not work.
patass said:
It will not work. PS3 controllers require being synced up via USB. On the xoom, it would require that and an app. There is no sync button on PS3 controllers.
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Why isn't it possible on Android?
It even works without extra applications on Maemo: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66704 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41693
At least Honeycomb 3.1 should be able to detect it or is there another problem?
this is intresting, would like to use a bt controller on the xoom soon, flirting with that ebay one. Wii looks like the best bet
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Why isn't it possible on Android?
It even works without extra applications on Maemo: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=66704 http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=41693
At least Honeycomb 3.1 should be able to detect it or is there another problem?
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For bluetooth, it would require an app or script to change the mac address of the bluetooth in your xoom to that of the ps3 controller.
I think you could do that on a PC as a workaround...
i dont understand? i know sometimes you want more buttons or a different grip design, but the wii controller works great for all the 8bit/16bit games i play. at least it gets you going with a BT controller.
http://android.ccpcreations.com/wiicontroller/wc-compatibility
But the Wii controller isn't good to hold for oldschool games (without motion).
There's only two buttons on the wiimote. Wanna play psone games on fpse so need 4 mappable buttons!
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Looking
Has anybody found one that does work well for cordy
Your best option is the Datel Retro Wireless controller.

[Q] Any new phone can become xperia play?

With new android 4.0 coming out next month, it has been mentioned that it will support usb gamepads just like honeycomb. I've seen people connect ps3, xbox360, or any pc usb gamepad to their xoom/transformer.
So does that mean anyone that buys an ice cream sandwich android phone in the future can use a usb gamepad to play all 150+ xperia play games?
This might also mean more gamepad compatible games are coming out in 2012+, although they might not call it xperia play optimized.
The only thing is that its 2011/2012. We have been with wireless controllers for like 5 years now. You would need a stand to make use of plugging in the controller and holding the controller with your phone on the ground or on a stand.
Its helpful but id rather use my play. So no not every phone with be like an xperia play...
Besides, the Play has the playstation controls embedded, which makes it a handheld console. Plugging in an USB controller and playing on a TV is a different thing altogether.
All well and good, but you're hardly going to carry a controller around with you, so you can play on the bus/on a train/in the toilet at work
The new ICS update is better suited to hooking you phone up to the tv via hdmi and playing games that way, Plugging a usb controller into your phone and trying to juggle both the controller and your phone would be pretty inconvenient.
Ice Cream Sandwich is screaming "plug me to an hdmi slot".
How will devices with no usb host use usb gamepads? They don't have the H/W.
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All phones usually have a micro usb port for charging the phone. You can plug the gamepad into the micro usb port via an adapter.
Ice cream sandwich android os will make any phone become a usb host.
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How will devices with no usb host use usb gamepads? They don't have the H/W.
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I'm thinking of gamepads with Bluetooth or NFC. I don't think people will be interested in plugging their pads per USB.
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I'm thinking of gamepads with Bluetooth or NFC. I don't think people will be interested in plugging their pads per USB.
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That's a better idea, but still even with BT it's not very portable SEXPLAY FTW
The reason I like having my Play is because it goes with me everywhere. Even something like a PSP or a DS are useless to me because I'm not about to carry them with me all the time. So having to bring a controller with me on top of my phone is beyond useless.
It would be nice if it encouraged more developers to add gamepad support though. I just can't see it being a huge encouragement.
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That's a better idea, but still even with BT it's not very portable SEXPLAY FTW
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Oh, you mean portable consoles... Then I guess it's touchscreen out embedded gamepad here. I don't see any other viable way... then again, I'm not a designer.
I have a wiimote I used to bluetooth to my old phone. Needless to say, it wasn't nearly as nice as having a built in controller as I rarely brought the thing with me.
What if instead of a separate controller, you just had a handheld controller / dock / attachment. It would just slide on the phone and into the usb port and bam..a slab phone becomes a play.
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What if instead of a separate controller, you just had a handheld controller / dock / attachment. It would just slide on the phone and into the usb port and bam..a slab phone becomes a play.
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It'd have to be specific for each phone, considering the different dimensions and micro usb placement.
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It'd have to be specific for each phone, considering the different dimensions and micro usb placement.
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Details, details
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Even then, I carry enough crap in my pockets. Even an "attachment" would be one more bulky thing I don't need in my pocket.
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Even then, I carry enough crap in my pockets. Even an "attachment" would be one more bulky thing I don't need in my pocket.
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it would need and "attachment" "usb game pad" and a "usb cable" you might as well buy a cheap PSX and carry that about it sounds lighter

EMULATOR GAMING: Phonejoy seems to be the best BT-controller... but nothing on it!

WTH?
I searched the entire Galaxy Nexus forum and came up with squat on this. ONE whole member seems to have a phonejoy and just one person saying it works isn't really enough of an assurance to take a $50 risk on a controller.
I searched on Google as well for "galaxy nexus phonejoy" and didn't come up with anything either
I thought a big advantage Android had over iPhone, Windows Phone 7 was the fact that you could use an emulator (snesoid, nesoid, etc) + bluetooth controller + MHL adapter plugged into a bigscreen to fully simulate a console.
Does anyone have a phonejoy that they use with the above setup in order to use their phone to its fullest gaming abilities?
Only other options seem to be a wiimote (not viable for games that need 4 right hand buttons) or some sort of rooted PS3 Dual Shock / Sixaxis app (not looking to root)
Well if your going to try mhl setup that and a 360 controller works great. I use that in my A500.
Can't comment on Bluetooth, but it should just work, might require an app. You might get more answers in a tablet forum. Go try in the prime section there are probably more people doing what you asking for
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Six axis controller app. Nuff said.
let it be.
I have a phonejoy and yes it work great on Nexus. You need BluezIME to make it work.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5oZXhhZC5ibHVlemltZSJd
I bought that when sixaxis didnt work on CM7 for my SG S2.
MHL+phonejoy is awesome. Playing emulator on TV
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Well if your going to try mhl setup that and a 360 controller works great. I use that in my A500.
Can't comment on Bluetooth, but it should just work, might require an app. You might get more answers in a tablet forum. Go try in the prime section there are probably more people doing what you asking for
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How do you use the 360 controller?
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How do you use the 360 controller?
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USB OTG Adapter + USB XBOX360 controller works like a charm (I would add a Powered USB Hub in the middle so the controller doesn't drain power from the phone battery)... But, as you are using the USB port, no MHL joy in this case...
Some people say XBOX360 Wireless controller works fine if you have the Wireless Kit for PC, which comes with an USB - XBOX Wireless adapter, never tried that, so I can't say it works for sure...
Finally, which is the best (and in my oppinion only good alternative) option to play in the big screen, MHL - HDMI adapter to connect phone to TV, and, Six Axis (PS3) Controller and the SixAxis APP like @rbiter recommended.... You will probably need root and the USB OTG adapter helps PS3 controller pairing process much easier, but if you don't have the USB OTG adapter, you can use a PC to do this pairing proccess, just don't ask me how as I have no idea...
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USB OTG Adapter + USB XBOX360 controller works like a charm (I would add a Powered USB Hub in the middle so the controller doesn't drain power from the phone battery)... But, as you are using the USB port, no MHL joy in this case...
Some people say XBOX360 Wireless controller works fine if you have the Wireless Kit for PC, which comes with an USB - XBOX Wireless adapter, never tried that, so I can't say it works for sure...
Finally, which is the best (and in my oppinion only good alternative) option to play in the big screen, MHL - HDMI adapter to connect phone to TV, and, Six Axis (PS3) Controller and the SixAxis APP like @rbiter recommended.... You will probably need root and the USB OTG adapter helps PS3 controller pairing process much easier, but if you don't have the USB OTG adapter, you can use a PC to do this pairing proccess, just don't ask me how as I have no idea...
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I think the six axis app doesn't require the PC pairing anymore. I could be wrong because I haven't messed with it since the last major updae. I think the dev put some magic in his code.
let it be.
The wireless 360 does work with dongle but with that it will not work with onlive,
does anyone know if that universal onlive controller would work with everything, i believe it connects via Bluetooth
i haven't done this on the nexus but this is my experience with my tablet running
a cm9 build
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I think the six axis app doesn't require the PC pairing anymore. I could be wrong because I haven't messed with it since the last major updae. I think the dev put some magic in his code.
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What does this mean? I've never used it, do you know what the step by step process is to getting a bluetooth controller working with the six-axis app?
Thanks for any help you can give.
ap3604 said:
What does this mean? I've never used it, do you know what the step by step process is to getting a bluetooth controller working with the six-axis app?
Thanks for any help you can give.
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All the instructions are on the app page. Its easy even if you have to do the PC setup. You're just getting the Bluetooth address off the six axis controller. Its worth it. Trust me. Spending $2 or whatever is a lot cheaper than getting an icontrol controller. And the six axis is good for fpse emulator too.
let it be.
You will laugh at how easy it is to set it up on the computer.
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I use six axis, ps3 and the hdmi out to my big screen and it works great on a lot more than just emulators. If you Google six axis you can find lists of games you can use it for, and I'm using for more than what was on the list cause manually setting up profiles for specific games is actually very easy.
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Moga pro vs ps3 controller?

Which do you prefer? Never tried linking a controller before. Not sure which to purchase based on variety of games it can be used on, and latency between input.
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memphian said:
Which do you prefer? Never tried linking a controller before. Not sure which to purchase based on variety of games it can be used on, and latency between input.
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Ps3, since it has an app, and also, because I don't know moga lol. I use ps3 controller and works perfect
Moga for someone who doesn't want to root. PS3 for one that doesn't mind rooting. I chose PS3 just because I have 3 at home already.
PS3 is much better all around.
Better control
Better response
Lighter
Lots of colors
Rechargeable
Maps buttons onscreen buttons
More durable
Better DPad
Feels better
It requires root is the only downfall. But if you're on XDA, that should be an issue.
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Got ps3 controller, six axis app, and fpse emulator. Have ps3 paired with six axis app. How do I get it connected with fpse?
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player911 said:
PS3 is much better all around.
Better control
Better response
Lighter
Lots of colors
Rechargeable
Maps buttons onscreen buttons
More durable
Better DPad
Feels better
It requires root is the only downfall. But if you're on XDA, that should be an issue.
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Better control
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what do you mean?
Better response
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can you quantify this?
Lighter
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I would have to weigh it, but my Moga Pro is pretty damn light; lighter than a PS3 controller I would guess.
Lots of colors
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true.
Rechargeable
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So is the Moga Pro, and with the same charger you're already using for your tablet.
Maps buttons onscreen buttons
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I don't know what this means, but I think you mean you can map screen presses to the controller? I can do this in all of my emulators.
More durable
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Probably true, but I haven't had either controller break yet.
Better DPad
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Disagree, close enough to just be a preference though.
Feels better
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Agree and disagree. I hate the PS3 triggers and the short nubs for handles. The Moga Pro fits better in my hand. The PS3 controller does have a nicer heft to it though.
Not to mention the Moga Pro has the built in clip for your phone, that's pretty sweet. Also the joystick nubs fit your thumbs a lot better (IMO)
Have you ever even used a Moga Pro? Because you seem really ill-informed.
There are more controllers being sold. For example the steelseries free, icontrolpad, and there are others around that connect with bluetooth
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Chaaqoti said:
There are more controllers being sold. For example the steelseries free, icontrolpad, and there are others around that connect with bluetooth
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Yea but this thread is specifically comparing 2. The MOGA and PS3 are probably the most supported.
I don't have a Pro so I can't compare directly but rather listing qualities of the PS3 more then directly comparing to the MOGA Pro. I do have the original portable MOGA. I like the MOGA but I use my PS3 more.
I think the PS3 is also cheaper.
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Never used Moga but I use a PS3 controller with 4 of my devices. I love it, really awesome! I also use GameKlip to mount my phones on to my PS3 controllers. Works out great! Much easier just standing my tablets in a folio case for game play instead mounting them on to my controller. I wouldn't want the extra weight from a tablet in my hand while playing games. I'm not a little guy either, but that's a lot of unneeded weight in your hands in my opinion...
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i have both the moga pro and the ps3 with sixaxis, and i like them both, now if you don't want to root the moga pro is a good choice because you can keymap any emulator and there are some games on the play store that are HID plus the moga game enhanced, now if you have root then the ps3 controller is able to do what the moga pro does and more, also i have an htc one rooted which i use the ps3 controller and a nexus 7 2 not rooted and use the moga and love using it just because its able to do what i want it to do plus i don't want to root the my tablet because is pure google and like it the way it is. so i would recommend to use what is more convenient to you. or what you like
AFAIK there isn't a Mac app to change the bluetooth address of your PS3 controller, is that correct? So you need to find a PC or dual boot or VM or something to setup, right? Also, for me at least, the PS3 controller isn't working on the HTC One yet (unless something has changed in the last couple of weeks).
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AFAIK there isn't a Mac app to change the bluetooth address of your PS3 controller, is that correct? So you need to find a PC or dual boot or VM or something to setup, right? Also, for me at least, the PS3 controller isn't working on the HTC One yet (unless something has changed in the last couple of weeks).
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Look at the bottom of this page for changing the MAC address on a Mac:
SixAxis Pair Tool
I used it just fine to get my PS3 controller paired with my Nexus 7 via my Macbook Pro.
dbeth said:
Look at the bottom of this page for changing the MAC address on a Mac:
SixAxis Pair Tool
I used it just fine to get my PS3 controller paired with my Nexus 7 via my Macbook Pro.
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Ah thanks yeah. I should have said there's no app with a GUI to pair it (since not everyone is comfortable with Terminal). Thanks for the heads up.
If you use the Sixaxis app, can't you just pair it initially using a USB cable, skipping the step requiring a PC?
I know the Ouya does this. Just hardwire it, reset, and pair wirelessly.
I thought the Sixaxis App can do this too.
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player911 said:
If you use the Sixaxis app, can't you just pair it initially using a USB cable, skipping the step requiring a PC?
I know the Ouya does this. Just hardwire it, reset, and pair wirelessly.
I thought the Sixaxis App can do this too.
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I believe so, I don't have a OTG cable so I always have to use a PC
Also. I seen in the paper that PS3 controllers are on sale this week.
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chamucoliz said:
i have both the moga pro and the ps3 with sixaxis, and i like them both, now if you don't want to root the moga pro is a good choice because you can keymap any emulator and there are some games on the play store that are HID plus the moga game enhanced, now if you have root then the ps3 controller is able to do what the moga pro does and more, also i have an htc one rooted which i use the ps3 controller and a nexus 7 2 not rooted and use the moga and love using it just because its able to do what i want it to do plus i don't want to root the my tablet because is pure google and like it the way it is. so i would recommend to use what is more convenient to you. or what you like
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Id love for you elaborate your experience between the two.
Ive had the PS3 controllers for my ps3 but never used it on my android phone, and just got the Moga now. My deciding factors were,
Moga +
Better android support out of the box(almost all Gameloft support natively and many many games getting updated)
xbox 360 style and button layout, dual analog sticks positions are better
built in clip for mostly any size phones i.e. 3" - 6" devices, and yes note 2 does fit
long lasting battery and charge via any micro usb plug, unlike ps3 which need charging from ps3 or ac only
Dual connection mode(native or hid)
I would have over looked the issues on the ps3 controller but the moga was purpose built for android and with the built in clip and native game support was a no brainer. However I do feel at times the response is like 1/10 off so kind of annoying. But admittedly, i noticed the games that support native like gameloft modern warfare or crazy taxi, etc are near perfect. So who know this thing is just a few software updates from being even better.
It's been my experience with the PS3 controller that custom mapping all of the controls to get the game to work properly can be tedious. Although, with that said....it's also nice to be able to customize it however you want vs what is natively supported. Does MOGA allow this? I'm assuming not. Maybe someone can chime in.
Resolved.
GameKlip like Mount for Nexus 7 and Moga?
chamucoliz said:
i have both the moga pro and the ps3 with sixaxis, and i like them both, now if you don't want to root the moga pro is a good choice because you can keymap any emulator and there are some games on the play store that are HID plus the moga game enhanced, now if you have root then the ps3 controller is able to do what the moga pro does and more, also i have an htc one rooted which i use the ps3 controller and a nexus 7 2 not rooted and use the moga and love using it just because its able to do what i want it to do plus i don't want to root the my tablet because is pure google and like it the way it is. so i would recommend to use what is more convenient to you. or what you like
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I use the PS3 controller with the GameKlip and it works well for some games. While I am able to map the buttons and create custom profiles, I do notice the difference in the way the buttons work between a controller that is natively supported by the game as opposed to a touch profile created for the game to work with the PS3 controller. This could be just a settings issue, but for me the difference is very noticable. The one thing I love about the PS3 controller is the ability to use it with GameKlip. This setup is just awesome. I have the gameklip for S3 and Nexus 7 and gaming is the best experience with it.
Since you have the Moga controller too, do you know if there are any gameklip like solutions for Moga to mount the Nexus 7 on top of it? I think the default max width supported by the controller is less than the width of the Nexus 7. If there was a solution, i'd buy a Moga controller immediately. the amount of games they support is just great.

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