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Best no-sense rom?

Noob here, I have been reading about rooting for the past few days and would like to ask which is the best "clean" (stock android, no sense, which I hate) ROM available for the Desire.
Also, is there any chance of seeing a Cyanogenmod port for it like what happened with the Milestone?

Try the ahmgsk mod!

A CM port already exists over on MoDaCo. I'm running eViL's barebones v1.0 - it's sublime.

ahmgsk CM port is not ready for a daily use yet. It will use your battery in a several hours. Some other stuff have to be fixed too. I tried it personally and switched back to stock.

I just want a regular Nexus style rom for my Desire with no other tweaks. Looks like there is none at all yet.

The Professor said:
A CM port already exists over on MoDaCo. I'm running eViL's barebones v1.0 - it's sublime.
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+1. I'm loving this one!

all of the guys are doing a great job with roms.
I'm using and loving evil's bare one and it's great. I changed the others because of some bugs I found.

[Q] POLL: Best ROM?

I thought it would be fun to take a poll to see which ROM folks in this forum think is best...

Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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Baked Snacks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=701685
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What makes you prefer Baked Snack? I'm not doubting your choice, just curious what makes it better than the others.

Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.

Dissenter said:
Been using Calk's builds for a long time now. Seems my taste in ROMs is very similar to his. Keep in mind "the best" is extremely subjective.
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Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?

Matt_TX said:
Of course... It seems there are a few popular ones out there, and then a lot of "second tier" ROM's. What makes Calk's builds "the best" for you?
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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.

Dissenter said:
I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own

Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.

Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.

JTNiggle said:
I would think that this wouldn't be that tough. Try starting with a Sense ROM, pull out the dialer/messaging/gallery and whatever else you don't want, then install the AOSP apps you want. I'm sure the apk's can be found around here.
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Is it as simple as just uninstalling the Sense apk's that I don't want and installing the AOSP ones? If so, I can probably restore the apps I want from a Titanium backup of CM6. For some reason I thought it was more involved that that - especially with the AOSP Contacts & Dialer.

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I like the combination of performance and battery life of the kernel he chose to use. He also does an awesome job getting a bunch of graphical changes for the "cool" factor too.
Beyond the ROM, Calk contributes a lot of other things to the community. He's been making kitchen and kitchen development tools for the Windows Mobile groups for a while and I was very pleased to see him come to the Android team at the same time I made the leap. It's a big change for people like me that have been Windows Mobile sideline hackers for a while and it's really nice to see a familiar face.
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+1
Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.

Just_s said:
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Agree entirely with Dissenter. Calk brings a lot to the table.
Really enjoyed Hero's early EVO work and Baked is still great. Also used Cyanogen on my G1 forever, but Calk's stuff has been stable, fast and clean (at least for me) as long or longer than anyone else on EVO. It is a beautiful thing. I had problems with most of the other ROMs, but for the EVO, Hero and Calk always seem to have there kitchens working.
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So, what would you say are the pros/cons of EViO vs. Baked Snack?

there is a fine line between the "best rom" and my "favorite rom"
best i have had was a stock rooted rom, granted it wasnt fast but it had everything working and no bugs that i could find ...
my fav has been CM6 ... fast and snappy ... but lacking the Fm radio and 4G i disire ...
i have a hard time finding a big difference between sense roms ... but thats just me, i'm slow on this stuff still

I like Fresh 3.2
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ThrowingKs said:
Where is the love for Burnt Droid - by netarchy?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=745738
Simple Sense ROM with great firmware, and a couple nice apps tacked on.
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Ya, where's the love?
I prefer my evo burnt for sure.

modded fresh for me. Dude is on point with his ROMs.
Gotta have my Apps2SD support.
Thinking about coming out with my own ROM based solely off of his as a base.

Evio cured my flashaholic's issues for a while, but with Baked Snack update and the Evio update its tough, i have to give the slight edge to fresh right now because of the new release, that thing is sick. I am pumped once that thing hits the street its going to be on! Too many choices is a good thing as i think the Evo is THE android device to have with all the Dev support
My two cents
1. Fresh 3.28
1.a Evio
1.a Baked Snacks
YMMV
Matt_TX said:
Good info... I'm currently running CM6 and loving it, but I'm torn what to try next... EViO, Baked Snack and VaelPak are all possibilities.
None of the ROM's really have the exact thing I want. Ideally, I'd like a ROM that has the following:
- Sense E-mail App
- Sense Calendar App
- Sense Lock Screen
- Sense Status Bar (with Custom Battery Icon)
- AOSP Contacts & Dialer
- AOSP Messaging (SMS/MMS)
- AOSP Gallery
- 4G Support
- FM Radio
- WiFi/Wired Tether
- Sprint Bloatware Removed (apart from Sprint TV)
- ADK Laucher (easy to add after the fact)
Any ideas on how to get this? I wish I was a Dev... I would build my own
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Evio = pure win
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EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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i can't even imagine what hero and calk can do with that new release! Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
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EViO2 is the best! Everything works and its a speed demon. Its the fastest 2.2 and smoothest I have ever used.
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What is the most UNIQUE rom?

I have flashed my fair share of roms from Sense to Sense(less), Foyo to Gingerbread the list goes on. One thing I have noticed is that they all seem to have a similar appearance. I have yet to see a Rom that is unique in appearance. Does anyone know of any Roms that give a truly unique look, something new and different?

MIUI is the most unique android rom, it's like a iphone android hybrid.

I agree. I always come back to Miui. They update the rom on every Friday, and as of late it has been incredibly stable. Every so often I'll switch to a Sense rom, but within a week I'm back to Miui.

Acer Liquid. Definitely.

doubleojon said:
I agree. I always come back to Miui. They update the rom on every Friday, and as of late it has been incredibly stable. Every so often I'll switch to a Sense rom, but within a week I'm back to Miui.
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Wrong lol I have to disagree and say the new liquid ui is the most unique Rom..its totally different
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I found that Rom to be... I don't know, frustrating? Issues with the lockscreen, the multiple music players... I think Miui is much more solid, and the built in features are unmatched.

I would have to say that both MIUI are completly in there own. Both based off AOSP (incase you are wanting to try different kernels) But I preferred LiquidMetal. I am not a fan of the iphone. Although the options in MIUI were a lot better as far as customization. I only used each for a short time and am currently on gingersense remix (b2) (attempting to download b3 as I type. This one is nice but looking more like a sense rom with some of the new sense 3.0 stuff on it.
I say give both MIUI and liquid metal a go and see what you think.

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I would have to say that both MIUI are completly in there own. Both based off AOSP (incase you are wanting to try different kernels) But I preferred LiquidMetal. I am not a fan of the iphone. Although the options in MIUI were a lot better as far as customization. I only used each for a short time and am currently on gingersense remix (b2) (attempting to download b3 as I type. This one is nice but looking more like a sense rom with some of the new sense 3.0 stuff on it.
I say give both MIUI and liquid metal a go and see what you think.
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How is that one running for you? I tried both 3.0 roms and got sick of the rosie loops.
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I love Miui, I really do but it doesn't like my Incredible. It's starting to get better and more functional with the latest updates but still laggy. I have never tried nor heard of LiquidMetal. I will have to look into that one.
I am curious about the 3.0 Roms that are coming out. I'm timid to try them out right now though, I fear that since they are not "stable", I will grow a resilience to them.

MIUI gets my vote. The early versions were too much of an iPhone clone for my tastes but have since gone back to it on recent versions.
However, I'm not crazy about the way they did the launcher being iPhone-esque by keeping all apps on the desktop, I prefer having an app drawer. So I run it with the Go Launcher.
MIUI's theming engine is incredibly easy to create themes on your own, and there is a huge collection of themes online, although I like a good sleek dark theme.
It has been incredibly stable for me, and I've really gotten to like their styles of pop up dialogs and menus.

I have tried all of the 3.0 and 2.1/3.0 ROM's. I can tell you that after a few reboots and soft reboots, they will calm down, and you will enjoy them.
With that said, GingerSense ReMix by wdfowty is the best right out of the box. No loops at all, I assume because it is from a 2.1 base with 3.0 goodies added in.
Try them!

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I have tried all of the 3.0 and 2.1/3.0 ROM's. I can tell you that after a few reboots and soft reboots, they will calm down, and you will enjoy them.
With that said, GingerSense ReMix by wdfowty is the best right out of the box. No loops at all, I assume because it is from a 2.1 base with 3.0 goodies added in.
Try them!
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That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Flashing now.

doubleojon said:
That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Flashing now.
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So, whats the verdict?

Which Sense ROM has shiny new things but also closest to stock?

Back in the day with WinMo I loved MightyROM because he made an awesome ROM but mostly left the look and feel of stock. He didn't mess with a ton of stuff just because he could and I always appreciated that because it was rock stable. I rely heavily on my phone for business, it must be stable for all the things I use it for. I see the new "official" leak for Gingerbread and I want to give it a shot but I see these other ROMs that are now popping up thanks to the leaked kernel/libraries/whatever. They have higher versions of Sense (which I rely heavily on) and it makes me debate should I jump past the leak? So my question is this:
Which ROM past the modified Sense 1.0 in the official leak retains the most stability combined with new Sense updates? Even though 3.0 is available I'd be happy with the 2.1 that my wife is now rocking on her EVO Shift via another official leak. Which of these is a proper port from a phone with almost identical hardware, etc., so I know it's going to work flawlessly?

Skyrader is a sense ROM with lots of cool stuff from CM7.
Uber stable to.

I second the SkyRaider nomination. His ROMs have always been stable in my experiences. SR 2.5.2 (I believe it was that version?) was the first ROM I actually ever flashed lol.
Sent from my Droid Incredible running CM7.0.3.

I agree Skyraider! It is heavily themed Sense 1.0 so it looks sweet, has tons of customization and has the stability of stock. I have flashed all the new Sense 2, 2.1 and 3.0 roms but I always come back to Skyraider.
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I have been using Gingerbread Remix, its a beta but extremely stable. It's based on sense 2.1 but has sense 3.0 features like the lockscreen.

Skyraider looks like it's still Froyo though, if I'm going to go through the hassle of re-setting up my device I'd rather do it with actual gingerbread, not just themed gingerbread.

well, then you're gona have to look at the very few gingerbread roms out there since it's brand new. there's some in the development section that are PLAIN stock gingerbread sense; then there are some that are themed. i'm on optimized gingersense right now which seems real nice, and root is uploading a new release now that includes some sense 3 goodies, so you might wanna look into that.

I'm on Gingersense remix by wdfowty. It's sense 2.1 but with all the nice sense 3 features that you would want. Lockscreen, message and phone apps.
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I've been loving SR 4.0 with Lous #8...but i recently moved over to the Uber kingdom rom and I'm hooked. It has so much potential...wouldnt quite recommend it for a daily driver yet unless you are the patient type

Stock Kingdom is pretty solid now that it's in alpha 2. Only issue I've had is with Rosie, so I just installed launcher pro. Problem solved.

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I have been using Gingerbread Remix, its a beta but extremely stable. It's based on sense 2.1 but has sense 3.0 features like the lockscreen.
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+1..
This rom is amazing. Give it a shot, you won't regret it!

Do any of them have any issues with Exchange activesync?

+1 with GingerSense RmX, great ROM, great Sense 3.0 integration, stable as can be, only problems I've had with it are related to MMS but that's cause I didn't wipe before the update :/

I'm also running the GingerSense ReMix Rom, they just released beta 3 today, its been very stable for me. Just keep in mind its still beta.

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Do any of them have any issues with Exchange activesync?
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None that I have found yet... I have flashed newtoroots and Wdfowty's sense 2.1 Roms.
I run sky raider as my daily. If you are looking for something to set up and run for a while, I'd go with sky raider 4.0. You commented about not wanting to reset everything up. The Ginger sense ports are betas and each release requires full wipe.

SR 4.0 is currently the most stable feature packed sense rom. Waiting for ports or leaked gb builds to get more stable then ill switch. Would love a skyraider rom based on the Inc Gb leak¡!

I am using the Stock Plus v3.01 ROM and loving it.
I must admit though, the only reason I am using it because I love HTCs voice recognition keyboard and I didn't know how to get that into CM7 on my Droid Incredible!

ClockerXP said:
I am using the Stock Plus v3.01 ROM and loving it.
I must admit though, the only reason I am using it because I love HTCs voice recognition keyboard and I didn't know how to get that into CM7 on my Droid Incredible!
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This is the next ROM I am going to try. I so far haven't really like anything else.

[Q] Looking for a ROM

So I have been using Deck's ICS ROM for quite a while now. I'm finally getting tired of the random reboots all the time. So I'm looking for a new ROM to use. Looking for something preferably not Sense, but Sense is ok. Wasn't a big fan of CM7. I basically want something that works smooth and reliable. Looking for suggestions. BTW I'm on a Boost Mobile Flashed Evo if that matters at all.
Thanks Ahead of Time!

Tommytomatoe's Classic (Sense and Sense-less as it allows you to remove Sense)
Deck's ReLoaded - Sense-less
Both I have found to be stable and fast.
Doc

MazWoz Beta 6, AOSP ics
Swipers MIUIv4, just look for the thread I started
CM9 - there's two different versions JMZtaylors and Mazdariders both are good

DocEsq said:
Tommytomatoe's Classic (Sense and Sense-less as it allows you to remove Sense)
Deck's ReLoaded - Sense-less
Both I have found to be stable and fast.
Doc
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Thanks I'll check both of those out.
evol4g said:
MazWoz Beta 6, AOSP ics
Swipers MIUIv4, just look for the thread I started
CM9 - there's two different versions JMZtaylors and Mazdariders both are good
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Not a fan of MUIU lol.
Thing with the ICS Beta's is I always seem to have issues. AOKP and EVervolv both gave me some issues so I'm kinda weary of ICS at the moment. Even though that's my favorite so far.
I'll see what they will do for me though. Thanks!

You might also want to check out SOS swaged out stock roms. They are pretty reliable because they are based on ota updates but tweaked to be faster. They have one that's is sense based but no sense UI

Checkout RemICS-UX Port. I flashed it last night and it's smooth as can be

Huge fan of MikG. I finally updated to 3.11 and can't believe I waited so long to jump from whatever version I was running for at least half a year before that. It's so much faster and more stable.
I know it's a Sense rom but I use launcherpro anyway and make it look how I want. Love it love it love.

Tommytomatoe's Classic (Sense and Sense-less as it allows you to remove Sense)
Deck's ReLoaded - Sense-less
Both I have found to be stable and fast.
Doc
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So I tried Deck's Re-Loaded, its good but not my taste :silly:
Classic I couldn't figure out how to do the Sense-less but I didn't look to hard either.
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Huge fan of MikG. I finally updated to 3.11 and can't believe I waited so long to jump from whatever version I was running for at least half a year before that. It's so much faster and more stable.
I know it's a Sense rom but I use launcherpro anyway and make it look how I want. Love it love it love.
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I haven't even looked at MikG yet.
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You might also want to check out SOS swaged out stock roms. They are pretty reliable because they are based on ota updates but tweaked to be faster. They have one that's is sense based but no sense UI
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I'll check those out too. I read a bit on SOS but didn't get to much into it yet.
I flashed Energy Rom last night and it seems to run pretty good.
BTW Thanks for the replies guys. I'm new to this forum, from Phandroid, so it's nice to get some good help.