Hi guys...just curious if anyone here have bought the phone from O2? Would love to know if the one u get is R800a or R800at rather than R800i (which is most probably not the case rite?)? I'm travelling to the US a lot and the network interoperability is the issue here. Would love to have the phone coz I could kill a lot of time during flights and stuff but 3G is a real issue here coz my trip is usually for work so e-mail/web is ultimately unavoidable -_-''
Unless I'm mistaken, the R800a and R800at (not even released anywhere), are sold only in North America - in Canada or on eBay. I think everywhere else gets the R800i. And the R800i is definitely not 3G capable in the US. It will only work on EDGE.
O2 Uk/IE/GER etc will be the R800i be it generic or with their own bloatware.
as stated R800a and R800at are US/Canada. Not sure what the model in Asian markets is.
European market is always an i with Sony Ericsson
Some people have the r800x
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Nhialor said:
Some people have the r800x
Sent from my R800i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
R800x is Verizon Wireless, 'a' is always Americas with SE and at is AT&T device.
Still not sure of model number in Asia (Japan) market
Fwiw, the "AT&T" variant they gave out at Google I/O is the R800a.
Which of course doesn't mean the AT&T consumer model will be anything similar if/when such a thing exists.
iconoclastnet said:
Fwiw, the "AT&T" variant they gave out at Google I/O is the R800a.
Which of course doesn't mean the AT&T consumer model will be anything similar if/when such a thing exists.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does exist
Sent from my R800at using XDA Premium App
thanks guys....just in case if there's any one found an odd case (e.g. in europe but got R800a/at), pls post here...would be great to learn of those stuff...lol
Mine is an att play. Has the boot with att images and apps. Just wish I could root it but comes on 2.3.3 so no luck yet
Sent from my R800at using XDA Premium App
I think japan is also the r800i the only ones with custom models are the Usa - R800a, R800at, R800x and china z1i? Everyone else seems to have got the r800i
I know this is an old forum, but.......
can anybody tell me the differences between the models? well i suppose i dont want all the differences; the main thing i want to know is:
will the digitizer for an r800i work for and r800a? i have a strong feeling it will and a little bit of evidence that shows that it should, but i thought i would ask to see if anybody else would know. thanks.
vladimirhtg said:
I know this is an old forum, but.......
can anybody tell me the differences between the models? well i suppose i dont want all the differences; the main thing i want to know is:
will the digitizer for an r800i work for and r800a? i have a strong feeling it will and a little bit of evidence that shows that it should, but i thought i would ask to see if anybody else would know. thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Someone can probably back me up or correct me but I think really the only difference between the models is just the region they come from(The r800x is a Verizon Wireless version and it is stock android vs the Sony skinned one the r800i or r800a has)
R800a
UMTS HSPA 800 (Band VI), 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
R800at
UMTS HSPA 800 (Band VI), 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
R800i
UMTS HSPA 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
R800x
CDMA2000®, cdmaOne, EVDO
I live in the UK and have an O2 Xperia Play. Its an r800i and now its unlocked.
Related
Hello everyone!!
I have a R800i with these networks: UMTS HSPA 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I) GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Unfortunately I have just seen that the country that I am now, supports only 850 (Band V) and 1900 (Band II). I see that these are supported on R800a, but unfortunately I do not have that model, only R800i. Is there a way I can get it to work on these bands? Maybe flashing the radio or something like that? Can you please let me know your thoughts on this?
Thanks for your help!
Are you in the states? I have the same question since I have att service. I just want to know if 3G will work with a R800i. I've read on these forums not to get the R800i if you want 3g but Amazon only carries the R800i. SIGH~~~~
You have to flash R800a firmware.
Blagus said:
You have to flash R800a firmware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you tell me which firmware works? I have the same question.
Moved to Q & A
The firmwares are in a thread I made in the development section. Link in my signature. Go grab one and try it out.
Also, make sure you have the right APN settings.
You could also try using the 36 baseband, which is hanging around somewhere in the forums.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
Whats the difference between the LT18a and the LT18i?
a is for use in the USA, i is international.
Sent from my LT15i using XDA Premium App
dows anyone knows if the LT18i has HSDPA 850 band? GSMArena says it doesn't but newegg and sony's site say it does.
sony know the best, they are creators.
LOOK THIS AT THE BOTTOM OF GSMARENA
Disclaimer. We can not guarantee that the information on this page is 100% correct. Read more
from sony whitepapers
LT18i: UMTS HSPA900,2100 GSM GPRS/EDGE 850,900,1800,1900
LT18a UMTS HSPA800,850,1900,2100 GSM GPRS/EDGE 850,900,1800,1900
look like LT18a is US version
a= america = 850MHz 3G
i= international = 900MHz 3G, but also uses 850 for GSM only (it works on america but with slow internet(GSM))
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
eugnasblood said:
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. The radio is hardware and fixed.
xperia arc s lt8a
eugnasblood said:
can u guys help me?
I got one lt18a but won't work 3g, because the frequency network.
Can I change it or something like that? like firmware? thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too just got my xperia arc slt18a and got straight talk as my tmobile affiliate pay as you go didnt work cuz it doesnt have the 1700 frequency to get the 3g but when i do the speed test app it says im only getting .01 mbs download and 2.1 upload speed
LT18a vs LT18i - HSDPA 2100 band
Hi friends,
I am looking to buy SE Arc S in USA and want its 3G/HSDPA feature to work in India also. Mostly internet surfing I will do in India and seldom in USA.
HSDPA bands supported by both models is as below:
HSDPA 900 / 2100 - LT18i
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 / 800 - LT18a
Both LT18a and LT18i operate on 2100 band for HSDPA. Is there any form of difference when Sony claims support for band 2100 HSDPA in LT18a vs LT18i OR are the hardware radio/frequency & firmware/driver exactly same for 2100 band in both models.
In India 3G/HSDPA runs on 2100 band. I am confused which one to go for.
Please provide inputs.
Thanks in Advance
Friends,
I need to buy SE Arc S pretty soon. Please provide inputs about above query abt band 2100 HSDPA.
Thanks alot
technosavyy said:
Friends,
I need to buy SE Arc S pretty soon. Please provide inputs about above query abt band 2100 HSDPA.
Thanks alot
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a lta and there is no issue with 3g.
Sent from my LT18i using Tapatalk 2
finch.****break said:
I have a lta and there is no issue with 3g.
Sent from my LT18i using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. Are you using SE Arc S LT18a in India on 2100 band.
I know that LT18a will work well in USA on 2100 HSPA band, and in India also we have 3G running on 2100 band. So will in my case LT18a run on 3G seemlessly well in India as well?
In the development thread DooMLoRD mentioned that the phone comes in two versions. There seems to be confilicting info about this. I have seen sites say it is quad band HSDPA and there is not 2 different models and only the lt26i. I would like to import to the USA and use on ATT 3g. It looks like the lt26i will work on att 3g. Below is the info listed in the development section of the site.
Model number:
The Xperia S has model number as LT26 and has two models LT26i and LT26a. They differ in the spectrum of frequencies supported for 3G/WCDMA http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LT26i - HSDPA 900 / 2100
LT26a - HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
The items passing the fcc was the LT26i and it was listed at quad band UMTS/HSDPA
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...alledFromFrame=N&application_id=917709&fcc_id
It is also mentioned in this engadget article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/27/sony-xperia-s-jogs-past-the-fcc-carrying-plenty-of-atandt-t-mobi/
I've pre-ordered the Xperia S LT26i from here. If you scroll down a bit and switch to the specification tab you'll see this:
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Speed GPRS up to 86kbps, EDGE up to 237 kbps
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Speed HSDPA Up to 14.4Mbps, HSUPA Up to 5.8Mbps
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems like it supports both frequencies... It'll surly work in Europe right? I live in Israel using Cellcom, I hope it'll work fine.
I am wondering the same thing too!
I live in Canada and I want to get this phone but I know Canada will be the last to get it.
Is the ' i ' version going to work for me in Canada?
Please help!
Thank you.
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
From what I have seen for the last three months, only one version which is quad band. Today I ordered one from ebay shipping from Hong Kong and I should be receiving it next week sometimes around Thursday. I will report back once I have it.
EDIT:
for people interested, this is the place I ordered it from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-S-LT26i-Unlocked-12mp-32GB-Android-Phone-White?item=150770279921&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DRPSI%252BSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DUCP%252BUA%252BMAGEXP%252BI%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D190644185862%26po%3DLPV%252BLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6745036511139896139#ht_3032wt_1396
wing_zero8556 said:
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This.
White paper clearly states HSPA 850/1900 is included. And FWIW GSMArena corrected the specifications page to reflect this http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LaughinGoh said:
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have ordered one from Clove in the UK. It should be shipped Mon or Tue.
I will report back once I either trim down my SIM card or buy a micro SIM.
I am on Telus now running an unlocked generic Xperia Arc.
Cheers
I can confirm it is a quad band. It supports UMTS/HSPA Bands 1/2/5/8. See screenshot from my service menu.
PS: the phone is unbelievably awesome.
I know this thread is old.. but my xperia s only gets edge internet conection..! D: No 3g at all! I'm in Bolivia btw. With "a" versions of other xperia phones I was able to get 3g internet connection.. why is this happening?
The 'a' and the'i' signify different versions of Baseband. The baseband determines which 3g network you connect to ! Make sure you pick up the right instrument otherwise you wont be able to connect to 3G. Google "3G baseband" + your Country and then see which model, the a or the i supports that baseband Wrong baseband => No 3g
Has anybody been able to use the Xperia Ion LT28H or LT28I on Tmobile's 3G/4G? Some spec sheets list the AWS band and some don't.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
NardVa said:
Has anybody been able to use the Xperia Ion LT28H or LT28I on Tmobile's 3G/4G? Some spec sheets list the AWS band and some don't.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The LT28H might be alright, but the LT28i will not be, due to that it only has one bandwidth it can use and not the other one. It is the missing the 850Mhz band,
LT28i barely works on T-mobile. I tried that and it dropped out of network very often.
I have an LT28i and it worked fine on T-Mobile's 3G when I was over there for a month. Their coverage is patchy in some places, but I got good speeds when I actually had 3G coverage...
xperia ion lt28i
i ran into this dilemma before and started a thread as specs conflicts
after some research and getting a hold of sony , the unlocked lt28i does work on t-mobile 3g, which i currently have right now and am very happy with it, am in phoenix area which is one of the better spots for t-mobile
many websites had the specs wrong, i had gsm arena semi fix it but they havent recognized the 3 versions for the ion, there is the lt28i which is the international version(t-mobile compatible) , lt28at which is at&t locked and lacks the frequency needed for t-mobile 3g as of now, the lt28h should work also on tmobile and is capable of 4g speeds on paper but sellers that i came across couldnt distinguish which international version they had so i went with the lt28i, which is future proof for lte and t mobile reframe to 1900mhz for 3g in the coming months
my brother has the galaxy s3, synthetic benchmarks aside, when i have 3g and the s3 has 4g web browsing is almost the same speed, even though he has ics but its not a polished experiance like the ion
the phone is loud enough contrary to web reviews that dont know anything about the XLoud
screen is great, battery isnt the greatest but sufficient for a whole day
hope this helps
if you google any sony model followed by "white paper" you will get the accurate specs for it
T-Mobile US
I've got LT28i and it works perfectly well in Charlotte, NC where we have 1700 AWS. My average speeds are 7-9 mbps. I flashed Rogers Radio right after ICS upgrade. Unfortunately it does not support HSPA 42 only 21. Also when scanning for available networks I get AT&T 2G, 3G, LTE besides T-Mobile 2G, 3G.
2g, 3g, 4g, etc
From the White Papers on each phone.
LT28i: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band IV and Band XVII
LT28h: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LT28at: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band IV and Band XVII
So, they all work 2g and 3g on AT&T which uses 850 and 1900 for both. Only the LT28at will not work on T-mobile 3g, which usually needs 1700. However, they do lease 850 from AT&T and have started reallocating 1900 in some areas for 3g- according to wikipedia's T-Mobile page. So, you may be able to get it to work in some places 3g for T-mobile, but what's the point if you can buy the LT28i and have the best possible 3g coverage through T-mobile? And in 2013 then, both the LT28i and LT28at will work on AT&T and T-mobile for LTE/4g, which T-mobile has not yet deployed.
Personally, I thought the LT28h was the international version because it will work 3g in any country. That said, the other two will work in most countries 3g, you would just not have all the operators to choose from. Japan and Some of Europe may be questionable for 3g on these phones. Look up List_of_UMTS_networks on wikipedia. I can't post the link, but it lists all the UMTS operators and the frequencies they use.
The Xperia V (LT25i) soon to be release will be tri band UMTS and pentaband LTE. Not sure it will work on AT&T and T-mobile without band IV, but the other bands contain all of the band IV uplink and downlink frequencies, so I would think it could be used. LTE is not widely used yet if you travel to off-the-beaten-path places like I do though. Until LTE is more widely deployed, I'm more comfortable with a pentaband UMTS.
From what I have read t-mobile does not have any 4g technologies implemented at this current time. They do call hspa/hsdpa "4g" although it is only a slightly modified 3g tech. I have the lt28h which fully works without issues on the higher speed h+ tmobile networks. I think the soon to be released sony TL will work on tmobile for there hspa/hsdpa networks and depending on how they use lte it may work in some markets once they enable lte which could come as soon as january in some markets but probably not until 2014. Either way by the time that tmobile implements LTE sony will probably have 20 more variants of the sony xperia s. But if you want a fast high speed phone for today's tmobile network the lt28h will work what you need to look for is a phone that has hsdpa 1700/2100 this is how to get tmobiles full speed. The sony t , sony tx and the sony tl should also work.
After reading this entire thread now I'm more confused. Ruling everything out, the LT28H is the perfect model for use on Tmo's faux "4G" until they deploy LTE? I need a decent replacement phone that runs on something other than EDGE using Tmobile. My Samsung Galaxy S 4G is slow and needs to be cut loose. Advice?
In the long run I want the Z or ZL but the LT28H will have to do for now.
quailallstar said:
After reading this entire thread now I'm more confused. Ruling everything out, the LT28H is the perfect model for use on Tmo's faux "4G" until they deploy LTE? I need a decent replacement phone that runs on something other than EDGE using Tmobile. My Samsung Galaxy S 4G is slow and needs to be cut loose. Advice?
In the long run I want the Z or ZL but the LT28H will have to do for now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
mrd7rs said:
the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice! Now off to ebay to find an unlocked phone. These don't come in anything other than black right?
quailallstar said:
Nice! Now off to ebay to find an unlocked phone. These don't come in anything other than black right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it also comes in red.
mrd7rs said:
the lt28h works great for me on t-mobile, average speed of 40mbps and i've gotten 70mbps on several occasions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Question I forgot to ask. Are all these the same phone? LT28H and LT28i are the factory unlocked versions correct? And the LT28at is just the AT&T branded version?
quailallstar said:
Question I forgot to ask. Are all these the same phone? LT28H and LT28i are the factory unlocked versions correct? And the LT28at is just the AT&T branded version?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lt28i and lt28at has lte, lt28at does not have 1700 (band 4) spectrum for t-mobile 3g/4g.
mrd7rs said:
lt28i and lt28at has lte, lt28at does not have 1700 (band 4) spectrum for t-mobile 3g/4g.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
quailallstar said:
So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a Xperia SL lt26ii and a couple months ago it was only picking edge up, but as of recently in So Cal it's been picking up HSPA and when I went to florida it was getting 3g. Their high speed coverage is still pretty patchy around here though, their restructuring is taking forever.
quailallstar said:
So in theory those of us wanting the max speed while on T-Mobile would require us to get the LT28H? Just checking and asking tons of Q's before I drop 400 clams for a phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i spent $600 on my lt28h when it first came out, and it was worth every penny
mrd7rs said:
i spent $600 on my lt28h when it first came out, and it was worth every penny
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow! But it is a nice phone. I'm also looking at the LT30a but can't find any online retailers that sell it.
quailallstar said:
Wow! But it is a nice phone. I'm also looking at the LT30a but can't find any online retailers that sell it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
look for seller 'never-msrp' on ebay. that seller has the latest sony phones available and cheap.
mrd7rs said:
look for seller 'never-msrp' on ebay. that seller has the latest sony phones available and cheap.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I will do that and see if he has either.
Hey jsut wondering if anybody on this site is in the Ontario area and where they got their phone + when..
I cant seem to find an xperia play that works on local frequencies.
I recently received the one i ordered off Amazon. But it is not accepting my SIM, it cant even be unlocked cuz its an international phone..
Is there anything I can DO?
These are the frecuencies supported by Xperia Play in its GSM version:
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS HSPA 900, 2100 (Global except Americas)
UMTS HSPA 800, 850, 1900, 2100 (Americas)
Probably the UMTS frecuencies for America are supported by the R800a and the other ones by the R800i.
If you need a R800a and you have a R800i maybe you can flash a R800a rom to modify the supported frecuencies. Search this issue in the forum, you could find something about it.
Try flashing the R800a firmware and see if the phone will accept the card. Otherwise you are out of luck. Should have bought an R800a from rogers and simply unlock it.
I dont think this will work as an R800a can flash an R800i firmware and the frequencies still run on the R800a frequencies.
Edit: I bought my phone off someone from Kijiji for $200 a year and a half ago. It was locked to Rogers. I bought an unlock code for it and unlocked it. Then put in my Bell SIM card and input the Bell APN for data/MMS. Then I got my bootloader unlocked. So I am using a Rogers R800a, with a Bell SIM running MIUI v2.9.21 r1 from cosmic DAN.