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Greetings,
I want to be able to seamlessly switch from CM7 to MIUI to Sense, etc., keeping all of my settings, apps, etc for each setup. I assumed that I can do this by simply configuring each and doing Nandroid backups. But, when I try to restore my Myn's backup, I get an error.
Anyone know the proper procedure rom-hopping like this?
Thanks!
mike
1. Backup current apps and data in titanium backup
2. In recovery, backup current rom
3. Full wipe [factory/data, cache, dalvik]
4. Flash rom, reboot.
5. When booted into new rom, restore apps and data, NOT system settings.
6.
And if you want to switch back, go to recovery, backup current rom, then restore the backup you want; no need to wipe.
Also you'll get restore errors if you renamed the folder using invalid characters, or its corrupted.
Yes, you can just keep nandroid backups of each ROM you like after you get them set up and running how you want. Then you can restore whatever setup you feel like that day.
You can also back up your apps w/ titanium, that way if you install any new apps, when you restore another ROM, you can use ti to restore any missing apps that you've installed since the backup was made.
To the OP, your post is incomplete without the error message
Your steps seem like the proper way to go between roms. What you need to be aware of is, some apps store their data on the sdcard. Depending what is stored, you may get issues. Beautiful wigets comes to mind. It stores the skins on the sd card.
Are you getting error messages restoring from the backup image itself? What error. Are your image files intact?
Might be your version of recovery. I had a problem going from CM7 to anything else. I switched the recovery version in Rom Manager and fixed it
Sorry, I overlooked that. What error are you getting?
1. What % was your battery at? If it's below 30-40%, it won't restore or backup.
2. Have you renamed the backup? You can only use certain punctuation in the names or it won't work.
teh roxxorz said:
1. Backup current apps and data in titanium backup
2. In recovery, backup current rom
3. Full wipe [factory/data, cache, dalvik]
4. Flash rom, reboot.
5. When booted into new rom, restore apps and data, NOT system settings.
6.
And if you want to switch back, go to recovery, backup current rom, then restore the backup you want; no need to wipe.
Also you'll get restore errors if you renamed the folder using invalid characters, or its corrupted.
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Good advice. One thing I'm curious about though. When you do a rom backup, it saves your apps/data etc. anyway, right? When you "restore" a ROM everything is exactly like you had it. So why is it necessary to do a Titanium Backup of all your apps/data (other than prudent good practice obviously) when your ROM backup will have the same. Is there another reason I'm missing?
Second, when you say backup "apps + data" but NOT system settings, what exactly do you mean? When you do a batch backup w/ Titanium Backup you can choose to do Apps or Apps + all system data. How can you quickly and easily backup apps + app data without all system settings? Manually go in and select certain (green) system data?
I do it in case I download any new apps while on one ROM that may not be included in my nand backup.
I don't restore app data, but theoretically you could restore the newer app data as well.
Alpine- said:
Good advice. One thing I'm curious about though. When you do a rom backup, it saves your apps/data etc. anyway, right? When you "restore" a ROM everything is exactly like you had it. So why is it necessary to do a Titanium Backup of all your apps/data (other than prudent good practice obviously) when your ROM backup will have the same. Is there another reason I'm missing?
Second, when you say backup "apps + data" but NOT system settings, what exactly do you mean? When you do a batch backup w/ Titanium Backup you can choose to do Apps or Apps + all system data. How can you quickly and easily backup apps + app data without all system settings? Manually go in and select certain (green) system data?
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The reason for backing up your apps and data is because when you install a new rom, like going from CM7 > MIUI, you should always do a full wipe, which will erase your user apps; erases all phone content. When you boot into the new rom, the titanium backup data is on the sdcard, and can be restored from there; that's why. And doing a full wipe when flashing a new rom kills off a lot of problems, like random fcs, ect.
No, you do the batch operation for backup user apps + system data, just to be safe that you get the data for the apps. That makes it easiest. When you RESTORE, you go into batch, there's an option for restore only user apps and data, right above apps + system data.
Hi,
I have searched around not found clear answer about this. I've been having Virtuous Sense w/Fixes & Enhancements : DZ Base 1.85.72.2 (v1.0.2) ROM -installed for a little while with stock kernel working fine. It was getting so slow, so yesterday I decided to try out Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 based on Pyramid with Streamline SenSe Test Kernel v2 2.6.35.13 for Virtuous Unity Sense 3.0 because someone recommended it.
So I did full backup with Clockwork Mod recovery (the same as nandroid?), did full wipe and tried it out. Did not like it and thought too much work with starting everything all over again. So I went to clockworkmod recovery and restored backup I took earlier. After it I had an idea, I could install Virtuous kernel to make things run smoother. So I installed Virtuous Advanced 1.1.2 kernel which is recommended for Virtuous 0.9.5 or newer. Since I have 1.0.2 it was ok.
When starting system, my wallpaper and almost every app data was gone. Home screens were empty. I thought it should have restored my earlier settings completely? Does new kernel cause this? But I could have lived with it. Except
Virtual keyboard did not have finnish laoyout, no ä's and ö's. Neither there were international layout in settings. Outer keyboard works though.
HTC Clock/weather cannot find my city. In weather app when you search manually, there is about only 5 cities from Finland. Why?
Screen flickers sometimes and won't turn on if I dont' rape it on.
There is nothing in SMS, my messages are lost! I thought they were supposed to be synced in from Google like usually?
EDIT: Oh and yeah, Android Market website says "No devices detected"
Only good thing is this runs smooth and fast unlike any kernel I've used before. The problem is I want it to work without problems, like before. Did I install wrong kernel? What is good kernel for virtuous, with finnish weather and layout? How to fix these things?
How I can restore the kernel I had before? How can I fully reset the phone like how it was when I bought it?
I would really appreciate the help! Thanks in advance!
From what you are describing it looks like you're data partition was not restored, you can reboot in clockworkmod and format data and cache, afther that from the advanced restore menu you can restore only the data partition, that way you will have the new system with the advanced kernel, and you old data.
If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
When I flash a new rom after all my settings I always do a nandroid backup, that way in case of something goes wrong or the rom becomes laggy, I restore the nandroid backup and I don't have to go thru all the pain of customizing the phone again.
Just wanna make sure I'm understanding correctly..
All your data was fine after you restored your nandroid; it wasn't until you flashed the advanced kernel that things went wrong?
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Just wanna make sure I'm understanding correctly..
All your data was fine after you restored your nandroid; it wasn't until you flashed the advanced kernel that things went wrong?
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Thanks for the answers!
Sorry for being unclear. No, the first time I restored nandroid I didn't see my wallpaper and all my app data seemed to be lost. I thought it was because of I tried Unity with different kernel, but of course it could not have been, because nanroid should restore everything as it was, right?
I have now installed Unity again to test, but I don't like it, some bugs and so much to do all over again, so I'm going to try to restore the earlier virtuous 1.0.2 backup again, will report here how it goes...
The thing is, I'm not sure if the backup went right, because when I backuped it I didn't check the output message. The backup size is 1,3 gigs so I guess it went right... but i'm officially f*cked if the space ran out during the backup or something like that... but tryin to restore it again now...
So what I did now again (this is what I also did before) in this particular order:
CWM Recovery:
Wipe data/factory reset
Wipe cache partition
Advanced -> Wipe Dalvik Cache
Backup and restore -> Restore -> 2011-07-03.18.40.43/
Reboot
(took about 15 minutes)
The result: "Loading... this could take few minutes." everything seems to look fine, but there is default wallpaper and empty home screen with home button and long press -tutorials. It is syncinc, so some credentials are there, but for example foursquare app asks for accounts... the app info are mostly not there. This is what my problem was in the first place when restoring. Could Unity installation somehow affect my files, or something?
If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
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Trying this now. Just made the point out what was my problem. Thanks! Will report, if it's okay to you.
ionut.micu said:
If you want to completely restore the old system you have to format data and cache, from the "mounts and storage" menu format /system and from advanced format dalvik cache, after that you can restore you're backup.
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Now I tried it like this:
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
mounts and storage -> format /cache
mounts and storage -> format /data
mounts and storage -> format /system
advanced -> wipe dalvik cache
backup and restore -> restore -> 2011-07-03.18.40.43/
reboot
...and the result is the same stated in first message. Things buggy / missing.
ionut.micu said:
When I flash a new rom after all my settings I always do a nandroid backup, that way in case of something goes wrong or the rom becomes laggy, I restore the nandroid backup and I don't have to go thru all the pain of customizing the phone again.
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Yeah I always nandroid backup also, but this time it did not restore as expected.
Use a file manager and go into sdcard - clockworkmod - backup - 2011-07-03.18.40.43, can you confirm that you got data.img in that folder, if not then your data wasn't backed up (in my backups data.img is about 150mb).
If data.img was backed up
Reboot into clockworkmod
backup and restore
Advanced Restore
2011-07-03.18.40.43
Restore data
If that doesn't help your data partition was not backed-up correctly and I think there is nothing you can do.
ionut.micu said:
If that doesn't help your data partition was not backed-up correctly and I think there is nothing you can do.
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It seems to be the case that it did not backup the whole thing, space run out or something. I did not double check the backup result, my bad... This is confirmed because I just restored the 2011-04-28.09.01.03 backup and it took about half an hour, a lot more than the most recent backup which was supposed to be bigger.
I will remember from now on, double check backup every time before full wipe!
I'm currently running Synergy, and have been flashing nightlies every so often to keep up wit hthe changes and small errors that I encounter, hoping there's a fix in them, However reflashing a nightly every few days can be a pain as I keep having to reset all of my phone settings (ringtone, notifications, display, accounts, sms, etc...)
What is everyone's opinion of the best way to reliably backup your phone settings to easily restore them to a new rom after a flash?
I use Titanium Backup, but honestly I'm not sure what all the system settings are saved as, or even if that's a good idea as the way settings are setup might have changed from the las tbackup, and don't want to screw things up.
Ideas?
All you have to do is reboot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik, and then create a nandroid backup of only the data. If you have an ext3 partition and your third party apps are stored there, then also select to backup the sd-ext and your android.secure (if you have paid apps). Now all you have to do after a clean install of Synergy or its nightly builds is to boot to your homescreen, bypass the sign-in stuff, and then remove all of the default homescreen widgets. After that, reboot into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik and then restore the aforementioned backup. When you reboot, all of your settings, data, apps and homescreens will be as they were on your previous installs.
posting & replying via my EVO 4G
dougjamal said:
All you have to do is reboot into recovery, wipe cache and dalvik, and then create a nandroid backup of only the data. If you have an ext3 partition and your third party apps are stored there, then also select to backup the sd-ext and your android.secure (if you have paid apps). Now all you have to do after a clean install of Synergy or its nightly builds is to boot to your homescreen, bypass the sign-in stuff, and then remove all of the default homescreen widgets. After that, reboot into recovery, wipe cache & dalvik and then restore the aforementioned backup. When you reboot, all of your settings, data, apps and homescreens will be as they were on your previous installs.
posting & replying via my EVO 4G
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thanks for the reply. just to be sure I understand you completely, using my current rom, would this be the proper order?
reboot into recovery (I use Amon Ra)
wipe CACHE, & DALVIK-CACHE
backup the following items: [ ]boot, [ ]system, [x]data, [ ]cache, [ ]recovery, [ ]wimax, [ ]sd-ext, [x].android_secure
wipe ALL userdata/factory reset
flash latest rom
boot to homescreen
remove all widgets/icons
reboot into recovery
restore nandroid backup created above
reboot normally
Also, as a side note, when wiping before flashing rom, I usually wipe ALL, CACHE, & DALVIK-CACHE, which are covered above. With the new Amon Ra, should I be wiping any of these as well before I flash? - DATA, SDCARD:.android_secure, BOOT, SYSTEM, SDCARD, SDEXT, DATA:battery stats, DATA:rotate settings?
Thanks for all the info! I appreciate it!
Include the sd-ext in the backup if you have an ext3 partition with apps on it. Other than that, you got it right. As for what to wipe before flashing, if I'm just flashing nightlies, I sometimes only wipe cache & dalvik, but I'm big on wiping EVERYTHING in amonRA's wipe menu EXCEPT the SD card before I flash a rom.
posting & replying via my EVO 4G
okay. thanks.
this is actually a follow up question, but the sd-ext, is that a special partition that I can setup that will expand the base storage of my EVO onto the SD card so I stop getting complaints about running out of space? And can that be setup through Amon Ra?
I think that most of customized ROM support ext4 partition and release A2SD/CM7/A2E version.
And many apps or data are moved to /sd-ext.
Is there any good backup app or Recovery can backup /sd-ext partition and save to sdcard?
Sometimes I don't want to recovery all ROM and do restore data/apps things again and again.
Use ROM Manager, which could backup sd-ext individually.
But this function only shown in Premium version.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesnt Recovery menu offer that function? (Backup and restore menu)
I use the recovery menu that was flashed by RomManager (2.5.0.7 or something), and it is able to do a full backup (aka nandroid backup? I'm new so not sure about terms)
scottnet said:
Use ROM Manager, which could backup sd-ext individually.
But this function only shown in Premium version.
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Do not use rom manager. It carts more problems than out solves.
Yes, every recovery should have this offer.
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The way I backup is following:
1st step:
Titanium Backup. Use this to backup all my app/data/settings.
2nd step:
Set up Google Backup if supported (that way Market knows what apps i had and starts installing them after a wipe) Does not always work however, hence the step1.
3rd step:
Reboot phone into recovery menu, "backup and restore > Backup". This backs up following: system, rom, ext partition (if any) and also recovery/bootloader.
Using these steps, i can restore only my apps/settings (step 1) on a new rom or do a complete restore if something doesnt work right (step 3). Step 2 is handy If i want a fresh start but it doesnt always work right.
asestar said:
The way I backup is following:
1st step:
Titanium Backup. Use this to backup all my app/data/settings.
2nd step:
Set up Google Backup if supported (that way Market knows what apps i had and starts installing them after a wipe) Does not always work however, hence the step1.
3rd step:
Reboot phone into recovery menu, "backup and restore > Backup". This backs up following: system, rom, ext partition (if any) and also recovery/bootloader.
Using these steps, i can restore only my apps/settings (step 1) on a new rom or do a complete restore if something doesnt work right (step 3). Step 2 is handy If i want a fresh start but it doesnt always work right.
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4rd step:
after the backup with the step 3, u can go in the advanced restore menu, and restore only the partition u want..for example restore only the sd-ext (as the OP was asking)
Thanks for your information.
No matter ROM manager or new Recovery, the problem is to support /sd-ext backup/restore especially I always format to ext4.
I installed ROM manager once, but it can not backup/resotre my ext4 partiton.
It might be 2 month ago, and I removed ROM manager.
Did anyone have the experience to backup/resotre ext4 and which Recovery version?
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
I have recently done an update on my firmware to 4.4 and upgraded to Viper Rom 3.1.0 so I am well aware on how the steps are done etc...
However, last time i didn't want to lose any apps and data so everything was done NOWIPE
My question after reading many posts here: if i go for the full wipe to install the rom, do you advice to do the same for the firmware 4.16.401.10?
Also, what's the best procedure/tool to do a backup for apps + data/images? I am not sure if Titanium Backup is best option or maybe the TWRP recovery backup is best?
thanks again for all the work and patience with us, regards!
My advice is to update to the latest firmware , if your in GSM you can just run the RUU for lollipop and then flash a rom.
I think you can use this one:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B17smFr95pleeTQ5U1NzNkZzM0U/edit?pli=1
I have used two methods for backing up;
Follow them if you wish.
[Easy] HTC Backup Tool
If the ROM you're running is Sense based, you can either sideload it or download from the PlayStore (HTC Backup),
You sign in and simply press "Sign in HTC account" if you have one or sign up, press "backup everything", then
select your google account (Drive). Let it do it and when you update, flash a new rom (any even stock or the RUU)
and in the setup process press "Restore from HTC Backup". It'll restore
[Messages, Accounts, Apps, and more, even the settings].
You'll have to backup and restore your files however.
[Medium] App Backup & Restore
This is annoying because you can restore your apps but not the settings and stuff, just apps.
the internal storage you'll have to backup yourself.
Link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
You could restore SMS though using
Link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en
[Hard] TWRP Backups
you can backup a whole partition and restore everything without breaking the system (rom).
Before doing anything, backup using TWRP these partitions:
boot, system, data, cache and then reboot, drag the whole TWRP folder to your desktop;
backup internal storage.
flash an RUU wipe do anything; after that, reboot with the updated firmware, drag the TWRP folder back on your phone
and flash the recovery once again; go and download this app on your phone:
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore&hl=en
open it and go through the setup, after that press on the backup you did press restore and it'll
give you options to restore messages, call history, apps and data, and so forth. Settings aren't saved.
[Hopefully i helped in one way or another let me know the outcome.]
i4GS said:
My advice is to update to the latest firmware , if your in GSM you can just run the RUU for lollipop and then flash a rom.
I think you can use this one:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B17smFr95pleeTQ5U1NzNkZzM0U/edit?pli=1
I have used two methods for backing up;
Follow them if you wish.
[Easy] HTC Backup Tool
If the ROM you're running is Sense based, you can either sideload it or download from the PlayStore (HTC Backup),
You sign in and simply press "Sign in HTC account" if you have one or sign up, press "backup everything", then
select your google account (Drive). Let it do it and when you update, flash a new rom (any even stock or the RUU)
and in the setup process press "Restore from HTC Backup". It'll restore
[Messages, Accounts, Apps, and more, even the settings].
You'll have to backup and restore your files however.
[Medium] App Backup & Restore
This is annoying because you can restore your apps but not the settings and stuff, just apps.
the internal storage you'll have to backup yourself.
Link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.appbackup&hl=en
You could restore SMS though using
Link:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore&hl=en
[Hard] TWRP Backups
you can backup a whole partition and restore everything without breaking the system (rom).
Before doing anything, backup using TWRP these partitions:
boot, system, data, cache and then reboot, drag the whole TWRP folder to your desktop;
backup internal storage.
flash an RUU wipe do anything; after that, reboot with the updated firmware, drag the TWRP folder back on your phone
and flash the recovery once again; go and download this app on your phone:
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.bkrestore&hl=en
open it and go through the setup, after that press on the backup you did press restore and it'll
give you options to restore messages, call history, apps and data, and so forth. Settings aren't saved.
[Hopefully i helped in one way or another let me know the outcome.]
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So this method with the RUU will wipe everything?
The HTC bakup is an app i already have, so can i just use it to backup apps and data?
thanks