[Q] why is gapps so outdated? - Droid Incredible Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

3/7/2011 was awhile ago while we have market 2.x and newer packages has market 5.x. must be reasons why we're stuck with an outdated version

So what's up with the 2.3.4 GApps?
**(Please note, YMMV with all of the following information. Nandroid is your friend!)**
This is a tricky one. The problem here is that Google, unlike what they've done for every previous update to the G1, Nexus One, Nexus S, etc., decided to compile the Talk2.apk and libtalk_jni.so to be compatible only with the neon board, and ARM v7 (aka, the Nexus S), rather than every board, the actual Gingerbread API's, and ARM v6 and Tegra as well. So here's where this leaves us:
20110307: Works just fine on 2.3.4, just as it did on 2.3.3. Just doesn't have the Market updates already in it (you'll get the updates as soon as you launch the Market for the first/second/third time or so), nor does it have the new Google Talk. Because of this, it's still used in ROM Manager for AOSP ROMs such as CyanogenMod, listed as Recommended in the Google Apps listing, and is given at the latest/7/universal page, and the above table.
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So what can be done? In the meantime... Not much. I'm basically waiting for a manufacturer to release a 2.3.4 OTA update which has a universally-compiled library and app. Otherwise, 20110307 is recommended for everyone on 2.3.3-2.3.4 (CyanogenMod 7.0.x-7.1.x). There might be other options that present themselves (a new OTA for a Nexus device which has the files we need, someone breaking into the Googleplex (that was a joke!), etc.), but until then, there's not much anyone can do.
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From http://goo-inside.me/gapps/
AKA:
tl;dr blame Google.
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so basically we won't see market v5.x+ anytime soon

dyetheskin said:
so basically we won't see market v5.x+ anytime soon
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Probably not.

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[Q] cyanogen - is it out?

I read on here he posted a status on twiter but was wondering if it's out and how to install it?
Thanks
Its called cyanogen and no, it hasn't been released as of yet.
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Lol @ Crayogen... Anyway like luis86dr said it's not out yet. There were some nightly builds (unstable versions) posted yesterday but they got taken down pretty quickly. When CM6.1RC1 is released it will be available in the Developer section. You'll know when it's there; it'll be hard to miss.
luis86dr said:
Its called cyanogen and no, it hasn't been released as of yet.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
gravis86 said:
Lol @ Crayogen... Anyway like luis86dr said it's not out yet. There were some nightly builds (unstable versions) posted yesterday but they got taken down pretty quickly. When CM6.1RC1 is released it will be available in the Developer section. You'll know when it's there; it'll be hard to miss.
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lol Thanks! I just hope it easier than over clocking... it took me a good bit to overclock yesterday... but it was simple as changing the binary file name.
tbssimp said:
fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
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The first rule of CyanogenMod is that you never ask for an ETA (when it will be released). Just thought I'd get that out of the way before someone strangles you for asking
CyanogenMod is a complete OS (Operating System) replacement. Also known as a ROM. In order to install CM, you will need a permanently rooted device. After rooting, you will need to install Clockwork Recovery, which will allow you to back up your current ROM and install the new one. It's fairly easy as long as you follow the steps in the links I posted, and of course follow the steps that will be posted in the CyanogenMod thread when it comes out.
tbssimp said:
fixed thanks! any idea when ti should come out... also is it an app you can run or does it require some other coding and so on? Sorry very green to android
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Cyanogen is a ROM. Not a app, big difference. Also to install the rom you will need to perm-root your phone.
Check the development section on how to do this and since your new to android I recommend you study up on adb / fastboot until your comfortable with the root process. Its really easy but any mistake in the commands will result in your g2 becoming a display model.
Once your rooted go to market and download clockworkmod.
Once downloaded open and flash recovery.
Walaaa, your ready for roms and all the bad stuff we shouldn't do to our phones. Hope this helps.
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Cyanogen
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
GermanGuy said:
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
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Well I've never actually run CM before... But from what I understand what makes it so great is that it is based off AOSP (Android Open Source Project) code, adds some extra features, and some optimizations. Basically it's like if you took all the complaints you had about Android and fixed them, then you'd have CyanogenMod.
I think CM is especially good for people who don't have a Vanilla Android phone (like the G1, G2, and Nexus One). For instance my Vibrant came with a lot of proprietary apps and bloatware preloaded, and has a "TouchWiz" interface throughout the entire OS. CM will fix all that
luis86dr said:
Cyanogen is a ROM. Not a app, big difference. Also to install the rom you will need to perm-root your phone.
Check the development section on how to do this and since your new to android I recommend you study up on adb / fastboot until your comfortable with the root process. Its really easy but any mistake in the commands will result in your g2 becoming a display model.
Once your rooted go to market and download clockworkmod.
Once downloaded open and flash recovery.
Walaaa, your ready for roms and all the bad stuff we shouldn't do to our phones. Hope this helps.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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OOOO I didn't know it was a no no to ask the ETA lol sorry...
Well so far I have the vissionary perm root and I have clockwork... I tried backing up the ROM with clockwork before I overclocked the phone... it shut teh phone down and when restarted it sshowed a screen with the android guy and an ! inside a up arrow? I didn't know if it was suppose to do that or if that was bad I pulled the batt and restarted and it started fine so I am guessing I didn't really back up the rom... is that bad if i might want to get back to stock one day?
GermanGuy said:
Coming from Windows Mobile, I am used to flashing ROMs left and right. But what makes Cyanogen ROMs so special? From the sounds of it, it is the next best thing since sliced bread.
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From my experience with the G1, cyanogen ROMs have always been stable and relatively bug-free with a lot of additions and ability to customize stuff within the ROM.
It's too bad that CM6 only uses ADW as the Launcher, I use LauncherPro Plus (stock ain't bad either) and I hope ADW is as fast & smooth as LauncherPro Plus.
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It's too bad that CM6 only uses ADW as the Launcher, I use LauncherPro Plus (stock is ain't bad either) and I hope ADW is as fast & smooth as LauncherPro Plus.
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i use ADW now and have no problems...
does CM 6.1 RC1 come pre themed or are we able to add a theme on top of it? i really hate this white status bar haha
Yeah, the non-stock launcher has always been the deal-breaker for me, too. I'm enjoying stock rooted with bacon bits for now.
Do you HAVE to use ADW Launcher with CM 6.1? Or once we install CM 6.1 (whenever that is) can we uninstall ADW Launcher and install LauncherPro Plus?
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Do you HAVE to use ADW Launcher with CM 6.1? Or once we install CM 6.1 (whenever that is) can we uninstall ADW Launcher and install LauncherPro Plus?
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You don't have to use it you can install any other launcher you like.
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You don't have to use it you can install any other launcher you like.
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Good to know! Just had to ask since this is my first Android device and installing CM 6.1 would be my very first time installing a ROM.
I use Launcher Pro on my other phones running CyanogenMod. It works great. Sometimes I leave ADW installed, other times I remove it completely.
Great to hear..... Now.... If only Cyanogen would release CM 6.1 already lol
seancneal said:
Yeah, the non-stock launcher has always been the deal-breaker for me, too. I'm enjoying stock rooted with bacon bits for now.
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Ok. I think I got bacon bits installed too but what exactly (or where can I go to read up on) does bacon bits give me? I had already installed busybox and I got the superuser extra from rom manager; so, tell me what else I'm getting and how do I best utilize these tools. I basically need a noob guide, but hey I've gotten this far (rooted also killed Google Goggles before the OTA update so I had to roll back then forward) I'm getting it slowly and my little bit of linux exp helps me a little bit too Thanks to whoever for whatever info you can point me to in advance.
On the thread, I been using ADW for a bit now... solid with (main reason) open source development, lots of themes, etc. Used the Launcher Pro (free) and liked it slightly better for feel, but I like something that can be looked at and improved via collaboration.

ROM updates for Samsung Taylor SGH-i707?

So I'm wondering about this phone a friend offered to sell to me. It's a Samsung Taylor developer phone, so I have no idea which forum this goes into.
Will I be able to get software updates to the phone at all? Because right now the phone comes with the prototype ROM, so it can't record 720P. The camera is crap, some things like Facebook and Twitter don't work all the way. The marketplace isn't there. Its not stolen property because he is an independent developer and he says the phone served its purpose and he moved on to actual Win7 phones.
Any opinions? I asked my friend and he says he never tried looking for updated ROMs and he stopped using them after he got a focus.
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So I'm wondering about this phone a friend offered to sell to me. It's a Samsung Taylor developer phone, so I have no idea which forum this goes into.
Will I be able to get software updates to the phone at all? Because right now the phone comes with the prototype ROM, so it can't record 720P. The camera is crap, some things like Facebook and Twitter don't work all the way. The marketplace isn't there. Its not stolen property because he is an independent developer and he says the phone served its purpose and he moved on to actual Win7 phones.
Any opinions? I asked my friend and he says he never tried looking for updated ROMs and he stopped using them after he got a focus.
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connect it to zune and look for updates , there are beta updates for that phone (actually with a higher build number and copy/past) so I would say yes there are updates for .
I have a German Vodafone Optimus 7 that was used a couple of months by a software developer. I don't think it's running the latest (stable) build of WP7 however. When I check for updates with Zune it says that I'm up to date and the current version is: 7.0 (6536). Is this the latest version that every WP7 device is running? And if not, how come that my device doesn't get any updates?
Btw, Marketplace etc. just work fine on the device.
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I have a German Vodafone Optimus 7 that was used a couple of months by a software developer. I don't think it's running the latest (stable) build of WP7 however. When I check for updates with Zune it says that I'm up to date and the current version is: 7.0 (6536). Is this the latest version that every WP7 device is running? And if not, how come that my device doesn't get any updates?
Btw, Marketplace etc. just work fine on the device.
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that is not a developer phone but a pre release , only the Samsung Taylor is a developer phone (and get beta updates )
you have to wait for the official update in 2011.
ceesheim said:
that is not a developer phone but a pre release , only the Samsung Taylor is a developer phone (and get beta updates )
you have to wait for the official update in 2011.
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The LG Panther was a developer phone too I believe. Thanks for your reply, I'll be waiting for the january update just lik everyone else then
renegadEEE said:
The LG Panther was a developer phone too I believe. Thanks for your reply, I'll be waiting for the january update just lik everyone else then
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thanks , didn't know of the LG Panther .
ps, the latest official build is 7004.
In theory, the Taylor and Panther have updates to build 7003/7004, and they are available on the net (or if you ask the right friendly WP7 dev).
If you plug the device in to Zune, it should search for an update to 7003, though that might not happen.
73XX and above do also exist for the Taylor/Panther, but they're a lot harder to come by, and won't be coming out via Zune any time soon.
In theory, a dev device running 7003 will be able to do anything a release device running the same build (they wouldn't be much use as developer phones if they behaved differently) so I think updating the device should fix the issues you've got, though it'll never do 720p video, and the camera is terrible!
i dont think my friend's is even running the release. the market doesnt work and the live integration is blank. so if i have him get the update, basically i can upgrade it? awesome.
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i dont think my friend's is even running the release. the market doesnt work and the live integration is blank. so if i have him get the update, basically i can upgrade it? awesome.
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That sounds like an older build then, those are both working on the Taylor/Panther I've got.
Let me know if you need help finding an update.
I don´t know why but I have ROM 7006 installed on my Samsung Taylor, so diff packages from 7004 to 7008 won´t work. Asked lots of devs and MSFTies an no one seems to have ROM 7004 for the Taylor.
Any help?
Follow this guide to get Mango running on the Samsung Taylor: http://www.rudigrobler.net/blog/2011/9/28/installing-mango-on-your-samsung-taylor.html
Leapo said:
Follow this guide to get Mango running on the Samsung Taylor: http://www.rudigrobler.net/blog/2011/9/28/installing-mango-on-your-samsung-taylor.html
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Update is possible from rev. 7004 only, not from 7003 or 7006 (never heard about that revision).
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Update is possible from rev. 7004 only, not from 7003 or 7006 (never heard about that revision).
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So you personally tried it the above process, and it failed?
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So you personally tried it the above process, and it failed?
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I've tried from 7003 and failed.
I tried it with ROM 7006 and it also failed.
At what point is it failing?
Are you absolutely sure you're using the correct "ChevronWP7.Updater"?
The download link was pulled some time ago, so if you downloaded anything off of Chris's blog, it was the wrong updater.
Edit: I would post a link to the correct one, but all the mirrors were on megaupload...which is now gone
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Are you absolutely sure you're using the correct "ChevronWP7.Updater"?
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Actually, I'm not sure about Rudi Grobler's post. No proof screenshots (even photoshopped!), nothing at all but just words...
Second, search for deleted comments to his article: http://www.rudigrobler.net/display/Search?moduleId=12353177&searchQuery=Samsung+Taylor
The first said (but he left all comments without reply!):
Comment On: Installing Mango on your Samsung Taylor
Journal Entry Comment by r2d2rigo on September 29, 2011
How did you get your Taylor to 7004 in the first place?
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So, it may be fake... I received Sammy Taylor at August, 2010 and installed all updates MS sent to registered developers/partners but never heard about Taylor on 7004.
In my case, it fails when applying the diff packages, since they are all 7004-7008, adn my rom is 7006.
I have try to find info about the links to 7006-7008 packages with no success so far.

[Q] FreeXperia CM7 questions...

So I have a Xperia Play R800x (CDMA). I don't have enough posts, so I can't post in the topic. So I have a few questions about the recent FXP025 and the ROM with it, or whatever it is called .
1. Are all of the stock games still there?
2. Can I restore a previously made Nandroid backup? I think I can, I'm not sure though.
I will update this topic as I have more pop into my mind. thanks guys!
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So I have a Xperia Play R800x (CDMA). I don't have enough posts, so I can't post in the topic. So I have a few questions about the recent FXP025 and the ROM with it, or whatever it is called .
1. Are all of the stock games still there?
2. Can I restore a previously made Nandroid backup? I think I can, I'm not sure though.
I will update this topic as I have more pop into my mind. thanks guys!
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CM7 includes nothing sony ericsson or google. You can flash the G-Apps as a seperate .zip. But google made them remove there apps from the basic rom along time ago.
You can restore a prevous backup and get back to stock at any time, but remember to flash the right kernel aswell. CM7 wont boot with sony's kernel, and Stock rom wont boot with the CM7 kernel
I can't see the point to CM7 on the Play? just seems like a very basic half finished Android to me with all the apps removed?
The point of CM is to give people a standard Google experience as they intended instead of the highly customized versions of Android that several manufacturers give you, such as Sony Ericsson, Samsung with TouchWiz, HTC with Sense. It's not "half-finished" - just the port for the Xperia Play is. After having used full finished versions of CM on other phones, I don't want anything but CM now.
CM is based on the Android Open Source Platform - AOSP - which means that everything included with it must be open source. Proprietary apps are replaced with open and free apps. Stuff included by various manufacturers are not included unless they are free and open source as well.
Hope that explains things. Give CM7 another shot when the Play version gets closer to being finished.
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I can't see the point to CM7 on the Play? just seems like a very basic half finished Android to me with all the apps removed?
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The "Half-finished" Android destroys most official builds in performance and battery life out of the box. Such is my experience with the (still in beta) CM7. The official -368 build is less snappy and a battery hog in comparison to -154, while CM7 tops both in those respects. Once CM7 is in RC2 or stable, you'll see what the point of CyanogenMod is.
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The "Half-finished" Android destroys most official builds in performance and battery life out of the box. Such is my experience with the (still in beta) CM7. The official -368 build is less snappy and a battery hog in comparison to -154, while CM7 tops both in those respects. Once CM7 is in RC2 or stable, you'll see what the point of CyanogenMod is.
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+1 wait 'till were up to nightly builds. Then you will see what CyanogenMod is all about
ok, thanks guys! I suceeded in flashing the kernel. Now I'm trying to flash the .ftf file... and looks like I'm failing :/ what device do I set it as, and should it be in fastboot?
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The point of CM is to give people a standard Google experience as they intended instead of the highly customized versions of Android that several manufacturers give you, such as Sony Ericsson, Samsung with TouchWiz, HTC with Sense. It's not "half-finished" - just the port for the Xperia Play is. After having used full finished versions of CM on other phones, I don't want anything but CM now.
CM is based on the Android Open Source Platform - AOSP - which means that everything included with it must be open source. Proprietary apps are replaced with open and free apps. Stuff included by various manufacturers are not included unless they are free and open source as well.
Hope that explains things. Give CM7 another shot when the Play version gets closer to being finished.
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Thanks for explaining!
I will certainly give it a try when it looks "more complete", so apart from the open source part is that the only difference?
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The "Half-finished" Android destroys most official builds in performance and battery life out of the box. Such is my experience with the (still in beta) CM7. The official -368 build is less snappy and a battery hog in comparison to -154, while CM7 tops both in those respects. Once CM7 is in RC2 or stable, you'll see what the point of CyanogenMod is.
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I wasn't slagging CM7 off by the way, just generally wondered what is considered good about it!
The way I have my Play running now with the latest official SE FW + DoomKernal + recovery + overclocked to a stable 1.8ghz I honestly have never experienced such a fast and snappy device, everything is now instant and buttery smooth, if CM7 can improve on this then I will be impressed but I just can't see how it can....
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+1 wait 'till were up to nightly builds. Then you will see what CyanogenMod is all about
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I know you weren't decrying CM, but I've already had 3 Androids with Cyanogen Mod on them. It certainly makes a difference. It's true that some vendors are manning up, updating their phones more frequently and adding exclusive features so CM7 is not as superior as it was before, but it still adds a lot of value. A cheap phone like the ZTE Blade was born to carry CM7, as well as high-end but officially obsolete devices like the Xperia X10.
I used update.zip to go to the CM7 kernel... correct? So I'm going to flash kernel.sin (stock) back and start over, I need to get Flashtool working correctly, it won't recognize my device in fastboot. I've tried 2.9.1 (that's what I remember it was called... there's another number in it) and 3.0.0.0. I can't flash the .ftf file for CM7... help me out guys :/
CM7 comes in two parts: its own special kernel, and the ROM. Flash the kernel, enter recovery, flash the ROM through recovery.
Alright, thanks a lot guys, I finally got it working. I didn't know I had to install gordon gates drivers. thanks again!
I want the benefits of CM7, such as Android 2.3.5, overclocking, and less bloat, but I still want some of the Sony things, such as the xplay launcher, market, and Verizon market to get those few games...
In some of those cases, you'd just need to bring the APK over and install it. In some others, not so much.
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In some of those cases, you'd just need to bring the APK over and install it. In some others, not so much.
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I'm not sure which dependencies I am missing for the xplay launcher, it won't install the app from titanium backup. I never knew how much I'd miss that interface until it was actually gone
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I'm not sure which dependencies I am missing for the xplay launcher, it won't install the app from titanium backup. I never knew how much I'd miss that interface until it was actually gone
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Xplay launcher and playstation pocket app requires the SE framework! you can play the playstation games if you install preinstalledservices.apk but the launchers wont work
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Xplay launcher and playstation pocket app requires the SE framework! you can play the playstation games if you install preinstalledservices.apk but the launchers wont work
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Darn, I figured as much.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
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Darn, I figured as much.
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
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Lmfao @ that website, Thats getting bookmarked

CyanogenMod versions for Wildfire S

Hi,
I am really full of compliments about the good work of some guys that have done a good job in building the actual CyanogenMod versions for Wildfire S.
Thank you sooo much!!
But what I currently do not completly understand...
Why are most of the CM users really happy about version 10.2 or version 11.0 (like orig. CyanogenMod or WFSY) when those versions - last version of CM 9.2.2 included - do not even have GooglePlay/PlayStore and Data2SD (or Link2SD) installed?...
The last (and obviously most advanced CM version) CM9 (alpha9, v.9.2.2) would already be a wonderful solution for the WFS phone (I tested it!!) and it is said to be nearly finished (even video camera is working now at the version of Olivier) BUT both mentioned, absolutly necessary components are missing (and nobody mentioned it yet). Or what can I do with a phone where I cannot install new apps at all?..
So what is it that I misunderstand?...
I would be very happy if anybody could inform me about how I can find a version that has a complete set of system apps or how/where I can find both missing components to complete them by myself. (and even more happy if the cyanogenmod update function would still find some updates)
Otherwise I would guess that not any of the existing CM-based versions for Wildfire S can be used at all...
Should all the past work for creating a CM version (Android 4.x !!) for the (unfortunately!) one and only COMPACT smartphone on the world, 'Wildfire S' (I must admit, it is in fact!!) should have been completly in vain ???... I couldn't believe it.
Thank you guys very much for your nice explanations!
All the best to this wonderful community,
from Falk
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Google Apps are the proprietary Google-branded applications that come pre-installed with most Android devices, such as the Play Store, Gmail, Maps, etc. Due to licensing restrictions, these apps cannot come pre-installed with CyanogenMod and must be installed separately.
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Gesendet von meinem Xperia Z mit Tapatalk
Hi Olivier,
many thanks for your tip. You did not mention the point directly but I could answer most of my questions by mayself then.
Now I installed CM9 'cm-9-20140720-Olivier-marvel' together with 'CronMod-INT2EXT+_signed'. Works pretty fine!
Only little questions have been left now...
1.) How can I sort my app icons by subjects/folders (s. HTC Sense)? This Trebuchet launcher does not seem to support anything like that. If there is no chance, which launcher would you suggest instead?
2.) There is no really 'useful' version of CM10 or CM11 for WFS yet, is there? I couldn't find. Do you think there will be s.o. still working for a final version next time?... (why is Wildfire but not Wildfire S an official CM development?)
2b.) At your current version CM9, is there any problem left that should still be fixed? Everything works fine here yet...
3.) Therefore the OTA updater for CM would be a fine feature like in CM9 vers. 9.1.0 (but no updates found yet!). But your current CM9 version does not support it any more. Any reason for that?
3a.) Are updates possible anyway without flashing the whole ROM?
3b.) Is there anybody managing OTA any update of CM (v. 9..11) for WFS?
3c.) Are OTA updates from cm9 to cm11 possible?
4.) Skype does not react when clicking the icon to start it. Any idea what is the problem?...
5.) Some system programs (e.g. contacts or call manager) do not have that nice design than before. There is no chance/choice to exchange them?... (if yes, how and where to find alternatives?)
Thank you again for your final responses!
First of all this really does not belong in the development section, in Q&A perhaps.
And you just can't ask every single think that comes up in your mind, you gotta search a little bit and try it out for yourself.
Now, 1. Trebuchet does support folders but not auto-arranging. Most of the popular launchers support this.
2. The current CM10 and CM11 are perfectly functional and working. Though they lag a bit (which is fair considering our old device). And the wildfire only had an official CM7 which is very old now.
2b. If you don't have a problem it does not contain a problem.
3. OTA is working for CM11. But for CM9 a OTA makes less sense considering that its stable now.
4. No idea.
5. Again you have to look for yourself, nobody can babysit you all the time.
thanks very much!
Okay, maybe question 1 might belong to Q&A. That's it. Sorry.
To make you understanding (sorry to write again so much!)...
to 1.) Did not expect that it would support it. So I did not even search for!... Thanks, this drag/drop solution is more than perfect!!
to 2.) Sorry, then I am not able to find them. I searched a lot and found actual version like 'WFSY11.0-WFS-V5.5, 20140723' or 'cm-11-20140726-NIGHTLY-marvel' where not even back button or Android option menu worked. Lots of functions are missing. I did not try 'cm-11-20140810-NIGHTLY-marvel' but do not expect more within one month. The same with cm version 10.2. In a thread I read that it was give up because cm11 is already working better.
**** So would you please give me the link to the finished versions of cm10 and cm11, please? ****
(a patch for the video camera problem seems to be existing shortly now...)
to 2b.) My first problem I saw was missing updater in cm9 for version 10 and 11. And the strange Skype problem. And video problem was fixed JUST before!! BT seems to have restrictions as well. So there is good reason to ask this question!?..
to 3.) It seems as if simple updating from Android 4.0 to 4.2 (cm10) and 4.4 (cm11) isn't possible!?... Officially it seems to work. E.g. OTA of Samsung offered update from 4.2.2 to 4.4. Strange!... How/why does it work here?...
Remark: So I suppose it is CyanogenMod which does not support it... It will not work without 'Titanium Backup' here...
to 4.) I suppose you will have the same problem!? Maybe you have opportunity to try out quickly!?... Skype really does not seem to run on WFS cm9+INT2EXT+. Isn't that strange?... (I reinstalled it already. No chance.)
to 5.) I asked this HERE because it belongs to SYSTEM apps (contacts or call manager) that cannot easily be exchanged, as far as I know!... Can they?...
There is one thing I would like to add, after your remarks to my point 2... Maybe I could not find the right sources. But this is because there is no resource pool (about WFS at XDA anywhere. Instead there just appear 'lonely' links in some threads. And instead of telling/explaining the systematics (if there is one) you guys generally just mention the fact (e.g. a link). So this makes it hard for non-insiders. You understand what I mean?...
(so e.g. I will have to ask (in another thread) how I can find the 'FM radio' app (no streaming!) which is missing in CM9 - instead of just looking at the right page where they are collected)
I would be really happy to get to know at least where you guys have found the informations for all what you do when 'cooking' new versions, etc.!...
Cause then I would have read about all that much more!... Instead of blaming me. Sorry, if I do not have that general info that you got already.
Maybe you understand better now!?... Would be fine.
Anyway, thanks a lot for your short repsonses. Have a nice day!
Again only things that are directly related to development are to be placed in development section. And NO if you have a problem with a rom you have to ask it in Q&A. Read the development forum rules in the stickies attached to the top of the section.
And you could also try reading through the stickies in the general section. It will give you some understanding.
Now CM10 and CM11 works, the threads are pretty high in the development section, you can find them if you look. The version of CM11 you used is the right one (the NIGHTLY) and back button does work. Try the later versions. Officially updating to a higher version is different and large corporations can spend time and money to make it work. But it just is not possible (or rather safe) with the variety of unofficial roms. You could try but most probably fail. You can install different apps for call and messaging and they will work. Search for those apps. CM9/10 works fine and have very less amount of problems. Now remember that this is a very old device and the devs are doing it NOT as a profession. So every single thing will never work.
Now as a last your largest problem is you think everything will be written somewhere in front of your eyes. It will not be. You have to use Google before asking a question. And also you just have to calm down and fix your attitude.
aWFSuser said:
First of all this really does not belong in the development section, in Q&A perhaps.
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That was my fault, I'd moved this out of a thread and mistakenly put it in the Development section. All sorted now.
thanks again for your time to answer!!
I know, I sound as if I would not know which hard work you guys do. But I do, aWF Suser. And I mentioned that already in the beginning.
And I have heard already from your collegues that it would be a good idea if things could be organised some better. The official cm versions e.g have a central resource pool. Or the android-Wiki and CM-Wiki notes are all out-dated (from 2012) !!... Etc.
But PLEASE understand this more as a suggestion than a criticism - from a user that in your eyes only expects and criticises but cannot give. This is not the case!
Thank you!
I know it is an old smartphone I have. And I would have bought a new one already a long time ago. But even Samsung Galaxy Mini is too big in size and some important functions you will only find in the big version. Why is that so? Nobody can explain!... (i would pay the same price for a small phone!!! Handy devices must not be worse and more expensive than big ones!!)
The WFS is just the only really COMPACT smartphone all over. And I am sad that the industry detected a trend to bigger displays. The opposite is the trueth. Nearly all my friends e.g. like to have a compact phone but those always a beginner versions/hardware which cannot be understood at all.
Really sad. It is a big strange hole in products on market, isn't it?...
Unfortunately you did not give me tips how I could find a way to get more familiar with what and how you guys are doing. Is it a secret? I could imagine to do some work here as well. I am very interested in how you are doing your development work!...
Thank you again...
Now it is sure...
Olivier's last CM9 version still has bugs, not only the problem with lgCamera and Skype but also at the akku loading status.
It seems as if it is not correctly refreshing. The loading curve (s. settings) slows down a lot and shows e.g. after 4 hours loading still 43%. But after rebooting it changed to the right value finally: 100%.
So again my question before, as Olivier unfortunately put away the OTA update function (but ment that it is not necessary anymore):
How can this version be fixed?
As far as I know you don't offer patches but only complete ROMs...
Okay first sorry for being rude as posting in the development section was not your fault.
Now the main problem with our device is not that its old but that it has a armv6 cpu which is not supported by later android versions. So development for developers is tougher and bugs will remain. I mentioned the general stickies before there you can find some useful guides.
And have you installed GAPPS in CM9 because some apps depend on it and won't work without it.
And just to be clear, I'm not really a developer but just a user like you.
I never said CM9 doesn't have bugs. It's is clearly stated in its OP that:
modpunk said:
This ROM is not meant for daily use!
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Hallo Olivier,
never mind. But I just understood it like that. As you gave the reason for the OTA non-support in your ROM.
So if I misunderstood you... what is your reason then?...
In fact it would bring us forward if you could please comment my questions and/or give tips to solve the mentioned problem.
@so please give me a chance to fix the akku status bug. This is really annoying.
Can you confirm that problem? And if so will you fix it?
And if so how can I update it by OTA updater? Or alternatively at least by a patch but not by a new complete ROM !?...
@TO the Skype problem...
First of all: can you confirm my problem?...
To your question: I used your ROM from 20th Aug. (119.518 KB) This one contains already gapps, I suppose. Cause Google Play and the other stuff was already installed!...
@TO lgCamera...
This wonderful camera app worked fine with EQDKP (v.2.3.5) but now it is too slow and hops a lot. Can you confirm that?
And if so do you have any idea why this is a problem?...
@how can I add FM Radio (analog) support?...
Thank you very much for your feedback!
PS: So if the last version of CM9 is not ment for daily use... which CMx version is it then? Is there none?...
Currently your cm9 works fine. Only those three problems so far...
Do you care for my bug messages?... (or where can I post them?)
Hallo aWF Suser,
yes, I know the problem with the arm version. You must not excuse for any bug in CM.
I do not have problems with bugs. I have more problems when they cannot be fixed easily (missing OTA updater) or errors are not heard or cared for so that bugfixes will not be available at all...
By the way the phone Wildfire (without 'S') is supported by Standard CyanogenMod and also has an ArmV6 processor!...
You mean I should read again the forum rules?... What is it that is is still annoying you in my style of writing?...
Olivier's ROM I used (s. previous message) obviously contained GAPPs already. GooglePlay atc. was already installed. So this should not be the reason, should it?...
First of all: can you confirm my Skype problem, aWF Suser?... I expect it to be in each CM9 version!...
Thank you very much for your support!
PS: By the way, I have compatibility problems when flashing ROMs. For nearly each ROM I have to change the recovery. Is there any that can read all 'formats' of zip files?...
Falk2 said:
Hallo aWF Suser,
yes, I know the problem with the arm version. So you must not excuse for any bug in CM.
I do not have problems with bugs. I have more problems when they cannot be fixed easily (missing OTA updater) or bugfixes are not available at all...
By the way the phone Wildfire (without 'S') is normally supported at CyanogenMod and also has an ArmV6 processor!...
You mean I should read again the forum rules?... What is it that is is still annoying you in my style of writing?...
Olivier's ROM I used (s. next message) obviously contained GAPPs already. GooglePlay atc. was already installed.
So this should not be the reason, should it?...
First of all: can you confirm my Skype problem, aWF Suser?... I expect it to be in each CM9 version!...
Thank you very much for your support!
PS: By the way, I have compatibility problems with ROMs. For every second ROM I have to change the Recovery. Is there any that can read all 'formats' of zip files?...
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The Wildfire is listed officially only for CM7 (gingerbread) . After that it has not been supported. I am not asking you to read the rules, in the stickies in general section there is a thread that lists some guides to some useful things. And is OTA that necessary because in most cases a dirty flash is enough to upgrade from one version to another as long as its the same android version. Upgrades between different android version would not be possible even with OTA (as lots of things change, it will probably end in a bootloop). I am not using CM9 currently so can't speak for that.
So then which CM version are you using on your WFS? And why?
I flashed cm11 shortly but it still has too many problems. E.g. the camera app crashes after successfully recording a video, the launcher only has two pages, launcher does not seem to support folders, etc.
Do you know where I can find the actual todo list? (AndroidWiki unfortunately is not maintained anymore!)
I will give Paranoid 4.45 a try yet. Maybe this is better!?...
Otherwise I will keep cm9 and hope that we can find out why Skype is not running.
Oooh, that is important... I can make a 'dirt flash'? This is very fine!! Then OTA is not that necessary, of course. But there is still no reason to left it away, is it? Especially because all this observing and searching for the update is NOT necessary! Can't understand Olivier here...
Could you comment my PS as well, please?...
(error log: "cannot load volume /misc. Can't partition non-vfat: /sto .. (vfat)")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-wildfire-s/development/cyanogenmod-10-t2908631
is there any better rom than this rom? how can i improve battery life with screen on? i want it for daily driver, i do not use bluetooth ad2p but i dont know what armv7 features means...
for me its affordable atm and give a new life to the oldie and shiny wfs
Which rom is the most stable for everyday use?
(With working wi-fi tethering)

[AOSP Tamien 8.1 with OpenGapps]

I was able to use https://github.com/anestisb/android-prepare-vendor to prepare the vendor images to correctly build AOSP.
I submitted some changes to make it work with Pixel2-XL and they have been merged into main branch.
You have to wipe everything.
I dont know how to make proper zip images for TWRP so use fastboot
I use the fastboot script included in the zip after a full wipe and im all good
Thanks:
anestisb on Github
opengapps
not working:
pixel squeeze
AOSP 8.1 with google apps:
V3:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620776051
AOSP 8.1 stock (no gapps):
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617955840
changelog:
v3:
Jan security update
v2:
updated camera
pixel launcher
updated wallpaper that was causing errors
fixed google setup errors during startup and boot
archive:
v2: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617955877
V1:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=745849072291697825
During first boot google setup crashes a bit and I just skip it ...then on reboot I get complaints about stuff. but everything works. so......
deeproot said:
I built AOSP with OpenGapps and all I got was this forum thread
You have to wipe everything.
I dont know how to make proper images so use fastboot
I use the fastboot script included after a full wipe and im all good
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Link?
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
yea, link?
?????
Don't tease us like this, lol. I'll flash anything at this point!
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
uplodz complete.
Interesting :good:
I've been doing my best to get my own build running for a few weeks now, and while everything else seems to work perfectly, I can't seem to figure out a way to get it to connect to mobile data. I'd be really interested to hear if there's something in addition to the build instructions provided by Google that you had to do to get it working!
I would just use your build, but my goal is to avoid gapps altogether. Hopefully the trick isn't to have gapps installed
Thanks!
prurigro said:
I've been doing my best to get my own build running for a few weeks now, and while everything else seems to work perfectly, I can't seem to figure out a way to get it to connect to mobile data. I'd be really interested to hear if there's something in addition to the build instructions provided by Google that you had to do to get it working!
I would just use your build, but my goal is to avoid gapps altogether. Hopefully the trick isn't to have gapps installed
Thanks!
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I thought the whole point of gapps is Google *****es if you build a Rom with google apps installed already...
prurigro said:
I've been doing my best to get my own build running for a few weeks now, and while everything else seems to work perfectly, I can't seem to figure out a way to get it to connect to mobile data. I'd be really interested to hear if there's something in addition to the build instructions provided by Google that you had to do to get it working!
I would just use your build, but my goal is to avoid gapps altogether. Hopefully the trick isn't to have gapps installed
Thanks!
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u did add in the propietary drivers i assume before u started making ur build?
this build is running smooth! i almost wanna say u couldve left gapps out n let ppl choose which they want to use but of cpurse this is only the beginning.. first thing i did was remove all those google hotword apks that fc, not had any issues yet and u already stated squeeze isnt on here but i nvr used that anyways
I was building from source today but my env has a ways to go before its useable.. it literally took all day to make aosp arm64 eng lol.. started gettin low mem stops towards the end so gonna look at it tom... i actually need to change it up and tweak settings cuz i only got 6gb ram
my set up tho is ur aosp, flash kernel 2.05 and magisk 15.1.. butter.. or shall i say vanilla??
prurigro said:
I've been doing my best to get my own build running for a few weeks now, and while everything else seems to work perfectly, I can't seem to figure out a way to get it to connect to mobile data. I'd be really interested to hear if there's something in addition to the build instructions provided by Google that you had to do to get it working!
I would just use your build, but my goal is to avoid gapps altogether. Hopefully the trick isn't to have gapps installed
Thanks!
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aosp i dont think includes automatocally.. its runnin android web view n all lol instead of chrome that is
Now, I'm relatively new to the rooting world of Android. Is AOSP essentially custom ROMs? I know this is sort of a "if you don't know, you likely shouldn't be messing with it." I just love tweaking my phone!
So far only the squeeze doesn't work? Should the less advance user hold off until it's been tested a bit? Regardless, thanks for distributing your work to everyone on here! I love this community. Being able to share in the glory that is altering literally almost every aspect of your phone's software.
jgreen077 said:
Now, I'm relatively new to the rooting world of Android. Is AOSP essentially custom ROMs? I know this is sort of a "if you don't know, you likely shouldn't be messing with it." I just love tweaking my phone!
So far only the squeeze doesn't work? Should the less advance user hold off until it's been tested a bit? Regardless, thanks for distributing your work to everyone on here! I love this community. Being able to share in the glory that is altering literally almost every aspect of your phone's software.
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for u id say hold off.. it works fine for me but it technically is a userdebug build.. AOSP =Android Open Source Project, Its basically Android built from Android source so typically devs can pull the source and make their own roms how they want them. Normally doesnt even have google apps like play store for example.
Its a very clean low lvl android OS and the dev controls every aspect of the build process.. its also been called Vanilla
this technically is "custom" but this initial build doesnt have many tweaks or customizations.. its merely a glimpse as to the possibilities
but hey, try it out if u got the itch, it wont hurt u lol plus the only real way to know the difference is to try it for yourself
jgreen077 said:
Now, I'm relatively new to the rooting world of Android. Is AOSP essentially custom ROMs? I know this is sort of a "if you don't know, you likely shouldn't be messing with it." I just love tweaking my phone!
So far only the squeeze doesn't work? Should the less advance user hold off until it's been tested a bit? Regardless, thanks for distributing your work to everyone on here! I love this community. Being able to share in the glory that is altering literally almost every aspect of your phone's software.
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for u id say hold off.. it works fine for me but it technically is a userdebug build.. AOSP =Android Open Source Project, Its basically Android built from Android source so typically devs can pull the source and make their own roms how they want them. Normally doesnt even have google apps like play store for example.
Its a very clean low lvl android OS and the dev controls every aspect of the build process.. its also been called Vanilla
this technically is "custom" but this initial build doesnt have many tweaks or customizations.. its merely a glimpse as to the possibilities
but hey, try it out if u got the itch, it wont hurt u lol plus the only real way to know the difference is to try it for yourself
elliwigy said:
for u id say hold off.. it works fine for me but it technically is a userdebug build.. AOSP =Android Open Source Project, Its basically Android built from Android source so typically devs can pull the source and make their own roms how they want them. Normally doesnt even have google apps like play store for example.
Its a very clean low lvl android OS and the dev controls every aspect of the build process.. its also been called Vanilla
this technically is "custom" but this initial build doesnt have many tweaks or customizations.. its merely a glimpse as to the possibilities
but hey, try it out if u got the itch, it wont hurt u lol plus the only real way to know the difference is to try it for yourself
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Honestly, I'd normally listen and hold off. But since I have a day off I think I'm gonna attempt it just for the sake of learning!
As long as it has the Play Store so I can download the apps I want, I'm good. If I can get all the apps I need to than I'll be a happy camper.
Say later on it's decided I want to go to another AOSP rom, am I going to have to wipe again? If I can get all my apps, won't have to wipe my device every other week, and can get my modules installed I should be good to do some good old fashioned experimentation.
I am not a smart man, at times. I'm gonna try it out. I have a few hours before anyone else is awake. Might as well use that time (un)wisely.
Plus I believe these "vanilla" ROMs, being what they are, can be modded to an even greater extent than the already pretty modifiable "stock" Pixel ones. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
prurigro said:
I've been doing my best to get my own build running for a few weeks now, and while everything else seems to work perfectly, I can't seem to figure out a way to get it to connect to mobile data. I'd be really interested to hear if there's something in addition to the build instructions provided by Google that you had to do to get it working!
I would just use your build, but my goal is to avoid gapps altogether. Hopefully the trick isn't to have gapps installed
Thanks!
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I found this:
https://github.com/anestisb/android-prepare-vendor
I submitted my changes and they will update in a few days to the add tamien support.
I am going to hold off on this for now, as it's just a shell of what custom Android can be but just wanted to say thank you very much for getting the ball rolling. For giving us hope haha. I check the thread at least 4 times a day and my heart jumped when I saw this post! Good work!
Nice can we flash the Kernels that have been around here for a while on this rom?
patt2k said:
Nice can we flash the Kernels that have been around here for a while on this rom?
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I flashed Elemental X and finger print stopped working.
deeproot said:
I found this:
https://github.com/anestisb/android-prepare-vendor
I submitted my changes and they will update in a few days to the add tamien support.
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@deeproot
have you uploaded your WIP android_prepare_vendor anywhere? I would like to clone your changed repo and run this script if possible.
I attempted to manually add your changes in the pull request, but the script is breaking with a debugfs error
Thanks,
Edit: Found it, still getting same debugfs error.
Code:
[*] Extracting '/tmp/android_prepare_vendor.jlQiR6/taimen/opm1.171019.011/taimen-opm1.171019.011-factory-2df1c1cb.zip'
[*] Unzipping 'image-taimen-opm1.171019.011.zip'
[-] Symlinks have not been properly processed from /tmp/android_img_extract.FRWAOM/taimen-opm1.171019.011-factory-2df1c1cb/images/vendor.img.raw
[!] If you don't have a compatible debugfs version, modify 'execute-all.sh' to disable 'USE_DEBUGFS' flag
[-] Factory images data extract failed
[email protected] ~/Desktop/android-prepare-vendor $

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