Hi guys. Can you do me a favour please?
I just want to know what network to go for next time. I'm with 3 atm, but i find their reception in the buildings quite bad. Outside, it's not a problem at all.
Best i ever get is about 79dbm, but on average it floats around 93-103dbm.
You can check that by dialing *#*#4636#*#* , phone information.
Could you please provide these values, network and location (ie dorset would be enough, no need for anything more precise)
Thanks a lot.
im with virgin, i'm inside at the mo and my house gives a bad signal, however its on 1bar at 102 to 107dbm avg is 105dbm. I live in the south west, Exeter
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this 4g business, On Sprint's site it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon, and I live in Indianapolis which I thought was a pretty highly populated city...
wanted to see how many users are actually gaining no benefit from 4g and how many use is daily
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this 4g business, I live no where near it [so i cant data + talk], and on Sprint's site it doesn't seem like I'll be getting it anytime soon, and I live in Indianapolis which I thought was a pretty highly populated city...
wanted to see how many users are actually gaining no benefit from 4g
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hehe, nice, that's where I live too ;-)
I live in st. louis, and it seems that we get it more down town in the center of the city, but not in the outer parts of st louis county.
4g in chicago near my home (by midway) i get around 3.5-4.5mb download and downtown i get whats in my sig
anyone have 4g in tampa? I know its supposed to come soon but I can detect a 4g signal in north tampa. It just doesnt connect, keeps saying "obtaining ip address from sprint"...anyone else have any success??
It's pretty strong here in south part of Austin. It's definitely faster than 3G!
Yes, it eats battery power so I always switch over to 4G when I'm plugged in, especially if I'm tethering.
I have an app called Power Manager that can switch things on or off according to your power (battery, AC, USB, low battery, etc.). Right now it will only do wifi and GPS but I'm hoping there will be support for 4G soon. Anyone know of an app that would do something similar? I may give "Locale" a try.
My area isn't listed as a 4g location, but it's "coming in 2010", I heard October tbqh. They do have a map of some locations in the bay area (South Bay) that have 4g... but the other day I turned it on and sure enough there was 4g at my gym! So I have been playing around with 4g a bit more, and it comes really close to my house. Sadly it doesn't reach my house, just a few blocks away.
So when I have it (near work, or at the gym etc) I use it, it is faster and I notice the difference
I have a problem with my Tmobile g2 running 2.2, it is all stock no modifications whatsoever other than handcent and fancy widget.
The problem is I can not connect to 3g or hsdpa network when I am at home. By this I mean the cell tower that provides service when I am at home. I have txt and calling capabilites but I have no data whatsoever. I have to manually switch to 2g or edge to check email or use the browser. I have called tmobile and they keep telling me that the problem is with my phone, however when I am 2 or 3 miles from my house and it goes to any other tower on the planet everything works fine.
I have searched the g2 forum here but could find no answers. I apologize in advance if this has been indeed covered or discussed to death and I have just failed to find it.
I did find the *#*#4636#*#* option and when it is on 2g I can run a ping test and it finds the server just fine, but on 3g it always fails to connect. Again this only occurs of course when I am sitting at home!
Thanks to anyone who can shed some light on this or point me in the right direction because leaving it up to tmobile has proven to be fruitless.
It might also be worth mentioning that i replaced the sim card today as well, this too had no effect on this phenomenon.....
My mom's nexus s has the same problem. Only difference is that when i walk out the door i get 3g. Once i walk back in, I get edge...... I think its might be just tmobile frequencies poor ability to pentrate walls.
Sounds like a problem with the 3G network in your area, or just a weak signal there.
I know its not the signal strength, I always have full bars at home Its something to do with the network....
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I know its not the signal strength, I always have full bars at home Its something to do with the network....
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Full bars on 3G or 2G ? If you have full bars on 3G then it sounds like a network problem.
I have the exact same problem, but my building is probably over 100 years old with 300 coats of lead paint on it. It depends on your building. Signals can bounce off of mirrors for example and other materials. The more material the signal has to go through, the more attenuation happens.
I have a similar problem, my G2 can't maintain a consistent connection, I will go from 4 bars of HSPA+ to 4 bars of Edge to nothing (lost connection to network) and it will jump around wildly between these three states (every few minutes). My wife's MyTouch 4G doesn't do this, my G1 did not do this, our kids (dumb) phones have consistent connections.
I know it's some interaction between my phone and the TMO network, I'd say it was a defective phone except the only place it happens is inside my house.
I wish that TMO offered a microcell.
There is no reception problem, I have had the phone working here for awhile and it always has full bars, like I said I can hop in the car and drive a couple miles and it works just fine. Tmobile finally got back to me today and said they are having their Engineers troubleshoot the tower that provides service when I am home. I hope they get this fixed soon, they said 72 hours.......
It's that anti-cellphonereception chemical they put into paint!!
I'm using Open Signal Maps to see my connection. Apparently I have -95 dBm thru -104 dBm. I heard that -100 is practically no signal.
I'd also lyk to add that I have seen my phone drop to 1X. I didn't even know that existed in cities. Is that Sprint Version of a GSM phone on 1G? I'm sorry, I'm a previous Tmo customer, where we had 1G(.005Mbps)), 2G(.5Mbps), 3G, 4G. Here on Sprint, it seems lyk it's 1X, 3G, 4G.
I have an attachment of my closest tower. Shouldn't I be way above what I'm getting? The box is me, the circle is a McDonalds I go to. When I'm at McDonalds, my data speeds flourish. I see those 10Mb 4G speeds with full bars. At my house, I only get 3G. And I'm lucky if I get that. Sometimes it drops to 1X. Luckily we have WiFi 10Mb speeds at home.
This, however raises a huge question. Why do I have to be SO close just to get good signal? I mean, the fact that my phone is dropping to 1X means there's something up, right?
P.S. I know it's not called 1G and all that. I'm just saying that for those to easily understand. So you don't have to make a post correcting me.
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The Open Signal app is not that accurate add far as location. Many times it would locate my tower in the middle of a lake. Data speeds vary greatly depending on distance, tower traffic, etc. 1x is what we sprint users call 2G.
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I'm using Open Signal Maps to see my connection. Apparently I have -95 dBm thru -104 dBm. I heard that -100 is practically no signal.
I'd also lyk to add that I have seen my phone drop to 1X. I didn't even know that existed in cities. Is that Sprint Version of a GSM phone on 1G? I'm sorry, I'm a previous Tmo customer, where we had 1G(.005Mbps)), 2G(.5Mbps), 3G, 4G. Here on Sprint, it seems lyk it's 1X, 3G, 4G.
I have an attachment of my closest tower. Shouldn't I be way above what I'm getting? The box is me, the circle is a McDonalds I go to. When I'm at McDonalds, my data speeds flourish. I see those 10Mb 4G speeds with full bars. At my house, I only get 3G. And I'm lucky if I get that. Sometimes it drops to 1X. Luckily we have WiFi 10Mb speeds at home.
This, however raises a huge question. Why do I have to be SO close just to get good signal? I mean, the fact that my phone is dropping to 1X means there's something up, right?
P.S. I know it's not called 1G and all that. I'm just saying that for those to easily understand. So you don't have to make a post correcting me.
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1X= 1xRTT which is a voice/text network. it SOMETIMES works with web, albeit painfully slow. and just incase you didnt know, the ''G's'' only stand for "generation", so really, you could say 1G=talk, 2G=text, 3G=web, 4G= faster web.
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The Open Signal app is not that accurate add far as location. Many times it would locate my tower in the middle of a lake. Data speeds vary greatly depending on distance, tower traffic, etc. 1x is what we sprint users call 2G.
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Yea, but I mapped it, lyk looked at the visual and saw a tower there. I understand the whole network traffic and all, but when I go to work, my location is farther, but I still connect to that same tower, and I still get better reception. It's seeming lyk there is something at my house causing my phone HORRIBLE reception. That's the only thing I can think of. I don't know what's going on. -_-
It just seems that all the places I rest, by that I mean hang out, it seems I have no reception, but when I'm at the store or some place random I have great access. The more convenient places, but that's not very practical. This is making me want to break off this family plan and go back to Tmo.
Call Sprint and inquire about the Airave or search for that term on this forum. That device will fix your low signal issue where you hang out and they'll probably give it to you for free instead of lyk losing you as a customer
I know that 4g aka WiMax runs at 2.6Ghz frequency. 3g runs at a much lower frequency. The higher the frequency the worse the signle is at penetrating building and obsticals and is drastically reduced in effectiveness the farther away you are from the tower. See Verision uses LTE which used like 900Mhz i beleive which penetrates deeply into buildings and has a much farther range. Sprint is making the transistion to LTE on a 700Mhz frequency band i beleive which will be the best 4g out. Should be completed by the end of 2013 but i beleive it may take a bit longer than that. As for 3g and 1x getting a very weak signal can led to a tower not having a strong enough signal to support data of 3g. Also some towers are older and havent been upgraded to the 3rd generation of wireless data as a previous poster stated 1g 2g 3g is first, second and third generation techknology. What is weird and doesnt make sense to me ans many other people is that how many bars you have does NOT necessarily coinside with how fast your 3g connection will be. I and thousands of others have learned that even if you have full bars your 3g may to slow as snails and i have had 1 bar to no bars and gotten better 3g speed that certain places with full bars. Some of it has to do with weather, obstacle and how up to date the tower is. Like i said there are still older towers out there that don't even support 3g still. Hope this helpa you a little and im sorry that even pro's i have talked to cant say for sure why full bars and almost no bars doesnt always mean greater and less 3g speed necessarily :-(
Hi everyone,
My S4 drops a lot of calls and also if i walk in buildings like schools I lose service. It is not a hardware problem with my S4 because I have three S4s in the family and they all do this. It is not a problem with the place I live because I live in Chicago and almost anywhere I go I have these problems. Is there a kernel or something that I can do to fix or improve these problems?
Thank You
There's nothing you can do to fix it unless you want to modify T-Mobile's towers, it is a problem with where you live I've noticed poor signal strength and extreme signal attenuation (signal drops from -50 dbm when I'm right in front of a femto cell to -100 when I'm about a half mile away from it and inside my house) when switching to T-Mobile from VZW. I asked on here and apparently it's due to GSM requiring twice as many cells per area compared to CDMA, and also T-Mobile using higher frequencies which don't travel as far. Think of the difference between FM radio waves in the kHZ range (which can reach 50 miles) compared to WiFi radio waves in the gHZ range which only reach about a hundred feet or so. I'm regularly in -100 dbm service areas and I can make calls perfectly, signal drops occasionally but I can deal with it since I don't make calls that often.
This problem only really plagues areas which are still on EDGE/HSPA(+), once you get upgraded to LTE you won't have this problem anymore VoLTE will truly fix this problem though, but that's probably a year or two from now though.
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There's nothing you can do to fix it unless you want to modify T-Mobile's towers I've noticed poor signal strength and extreme signal attenuation (signal drops from -50 dbm when I'm right in front of a femto cell to -100 when I'm about a half mile away from it and inside my house) when switching to T-Mobile from VZW. I asked on here and apparently it's due to GSM requiring twice as many cells per area compared to CDMA, and also T-Mobile using higher frequencies which don't travel as far. Think of the difference between FM radio waves in the kHZ range (which can reach 50 miles) compared to WiFi radio waves in the gHZ range which only reach about a hundred feet or so.
This problem only really plagues areas which are still on EDGE/HSPA(+), once you get upgraded to LTE you won't have this problem anymore
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Thanks of the great info!
When do you think we will be upgraded to LTE?
You're welcome, I have no idea. I don't work for T-Mobile lol I know they're on a roll with it and they wanted to have a bunch done by the end of the summer, I don't have LTE in my home (South-Central Jersey) but at work (50 miles away, right outside of Philadelphia but still in NJ) I have LTE. I'm going to take a guess that you may have it by the end of the year.
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You're welcome, I have no idea. I don't work for T-Mobile lol I know they're on a roll with it and they wanted to have a bunch done by the end of the summer, I don't have LTE in my home (South-Central Jersey) but at work (50 miles away, right outside of Philadelphia but still in NJ) I have LTE. I'm going to take a guess that you may have it by the end of the year.
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I was editing it while you replied. I had an S2 and a HTC Sensation and I did not have calls dropped and I had service almost everywhere and they were on GSM, too. So I think it is a software problem.
I was wondering does anyone know how to stop the phone from constantly changing signal type within a certain network setting? So if it finds moderate signal strength in one type it doesn't start aiming for the skies?
So for instance you have your network setting on the 'any of 2/3/4G' option, you have a decent 4-bar 3g signal, and then it suddenly decides to go for glory and get a crappy/weak 4g signal and then keeps flipping back and forth! In the UK signal strength varies from street to street literally so it would be ideal to have the setting on 'any of 2/3/4G' with the phone attempting to find the highest speed signal type as long as the singal strength meet a minimum of say '3 bars' or '2 bars'. That way you don't have to spend your life manually forcing the network settings every time you wall down the street! Its 2013 after all lol.
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I was wondering does anyone know how to stop the phone from constantly changing signal type within a certain network setting? So if it finds moderate signal strength in one type it doesn't start aiming for the skies?
So for instance you have your network setting on the 'any of 2/3/4G' option, you have a decent 4-bar 3g signal, and then it suddenly decides to go for glory and get a crappy/weak 4g signal and then keeps flipping back and forth! In the UK signal strength varies from street to street literally so it would be ideal to have the setting on 'any of 2/3/4G' with the phone attempting to find the highest speed signal type as long as the singal strength meet a minimum of say '3 bars' or '2 bars'. That way you don't have to spend your life manually forcing the network settings every time you wall down the street! Its 2013 after all lol.
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I don't think there's a way to control how it switches in that situation, after all that's why it's called "Auto Mode"!
What I usually do is switch the phone manually to "GSM Only" unless I need fast internet, then I manually switch it to "CDMA Only" (I have non-LTE Note 2). In Oxford I'm lucky to get even a decent 2G signal, never mind 3G...
GSM Only also massively increases battery life, in my experience.
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I don't think there's a way to control how it switches in that situation, after all that's why it's called "Auto Mode"!
What I usually do is switch the phone manually to "GSM Only" unless I need fast internet, then I manually switch it to "CDMA Only" (I have non-LTE Note 2). In Oxford I'm lucky to get even a decent 2G signal, never mind 3G...
GSM Only also massively increases battery life, in my experience.
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Thanks Randy, yeah I do the same, ie just force it to be at 2g the whole time, usually an 'E' sign in London. But even then I'm thinking there must be a way to change the network signal setting by going in to the hardcore settings area, and putting in some sort of algorithm that says 'choose the best signal available, and do not move/change/search for another until prompted by the user'. If they really want people to use the phones for downloading and watching Sky sports etc then you can't have the phone messing around mid download
Maybe this sort of problem only happens in the UK, so no one's got round to sorting this, other countries seem to have their 3G coverage, and maybe 4G too, running smoothly!
You've got to remember that the phone e is designed to be used by the average user, who doesn't care about any of that sort of stuff.
Also, once data is established and being used construction, the phone is less likely to change mode. It still will if it has to though.
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Thanks Randy, yeah I do the same, ie just force it to be at 2g the whole time, usually an 'E' sign in London. But even then I'm thinking there must be a way to change the network signal setting by going in to the hardcore settings area, and putting in some sort of algorithm that says 'choose the best signal available, and do not move/change/search for another until prompted by the user'. If they really want people to use the phones for downloading and watching Sky sports etc then you can't have the phone messing around mid download
Maybe this sort of problem only happens in the UK, so no one's got round to sorting this, other countries seem to have their 3G coverage, and maybe 4G too, running smoothly!
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I agree that some additional options would be nice. One in particular would be to always switch to 2G when the phone is not requesting (much) data.
It's always going to be difficult to maintain a good 3G/4G signal if you're moving around. I think it will be a good 5 years yet until we're all reliably watching HD content on our mobiles. At that point 3G will be solid, 4G patchy, and 5G only in London