So, about two weeks ago my phone started acting kind of strange - in the sense that battery started discharging a lot faster than usual - back then I just kind of shrugged it off as probably a radio/ROM/kernel problem, and kind of forgot about it. Then, it got worse.. to the point where I now get about 3-4 hours of life out of the phone in standby mode, with only WiFi being turned on, CPU underclocked to 729Mhz max. Furthermore, the phone gets really hot after a while of using it.. I tried flashing differnent kernel, different radio and ROM (clean wipe, battery calibration), but nothing helped..
If that helps, SetCPU indicates values around 40°C battery temp.
Do you think it can be battery dying? I have it only for a little more than a year.. if not, any idea what can that be?
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What are your average temperatures on your Desire? On standby mode, heavy usage (movies, gaming), charging and so on. I'm a bit worried about mine. It usually idles at 28-30 degrees C and gets up to 38 on heavy usage, maybe 39.
I also wanted to calibrate my phone using this method, but I never get passed 4182mV, a few months ago I was able to get 4197. The phone also seems to be pretty hot, even when it does nothing.
The battery usage is ok, I don't have any apps that are using the CPU in the background.
And I used an undervolted kernel, running at 875mV at 245MHz.
playing ROBODEFENSE for 20 minutes or more gets my desire very heated.
so much so that it shuts off
is there an app or similar that can show me the temp of the phone?
You can view the temp of the battery which can give you an indication.
If your phones are overheating, send them to HTC and they should get repaired.
I just checked and my phone idles at like 25c and I played RoboDefence for a whole level at lvl 100 and got 35c. To be honest, it felt warm and not hot. I've had it hotter than that but never had a reboot issue.
Meaple said:
You can view the temp of the battery which can give you an indication.
If your phones are overheating, send them to HTC and they should get repaired.
I just checked and my phone idles at like 25c and I played RoboDefence for a whole level at lvl 100 and got 35c. To be honest, it felt warm and not hot. I've had it hotter than that but never had a reboot issue.
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I seem to be getting the same temps, but I still have the mV issue. I can never go above 4182mV and I can't properly calibrate the battery. The phone also dies at 11-12%, when I bought it it was dieing at 0%.
Sometimes, the phone is charging and it shows 87-88% for some minutes, and suddenly it jumps to 100%, I guess that would be the loss of 12% when my phone turns off. I wiped battery stats when I was at 100% and no luck. I am using latest snq's kernel for leedroid ROM.
Maybe a naff battery?
Yeah agreed.it can get hot at times but if it rebooted better sent it for a check
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My G2 gets ghastly battery life. I've tried Juice Defender and I've recalibrated more times than I can remember. Most notifications are turned off and I'm conservative about powering off the various radios when I'm not using them. It wasn't always like that. I felt like I was getting most of a full day on one charge and loving it for many months, but something happened last summer I think. Maybe dust or moisture affected the phone. I've got a total of six batteries and three external battery chargers. No battery whether it's the OEM original, 1500mah spares that were amazing before, or the new 1800mah evo shift 4g batteries I tried out, will last more than about four hours from full charge to the 15% warning sound.
I've tried only charging in the phone. I've tried rotating batteries charged in the external chargers. Like I said, I've tried calibration scenarios of various kinds.
Last night, I took a fully charged 1800mah battery and put it in my phone and then charged the battery in the phone. The orange led never turns green when the phone is off. When the phone is on, I can just barely get the led to turn green at about 91% (starting from what should be a full charge that is reported as 80% by the phone). This takes a good 10 hours of charging. As soon as I woke the phone this morning, the battery meter started dropping while the phone was still plugged in. After unplugging, the meter drops to 80% in a matter of a few minutes.
Like I said, I tried juice defender. It only helps a little but the cost is waiting for the data radio to reconnect every time I wake the phone. I thought BT was the culprit for a while, but now it really doesn't matter if I leave it on or turn it off.
At the other end of the charge, the phone can run for several hours when the battery is supposedly between 1 and 3%. I know we are told to start charging again at 15% but my phone drops to that level in 3-4 hours of regular use. I haven't seen the phone report 100% charge on any battery in six months time, but it runs and runs at 1%. This is what bugs me. Is the phone just mis-reading how many milivolts are coming out of the battery? Why can't I complete the first step of calibration (charge overnight to the 100% mark)? Is there a hardware component that can be causing this or should it be entirely fixable in software?
Thanks for any ideas or tips
Did you wipe battery stats?
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Did you wipe battery stats?
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Yes I have many times but thanks for the suggestion.
Figured so.. Too bad, would have been too easy. I'm starting to see some batttery drain on my desire z now too. Im wondering if mine is a radio issue.
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Figured so.. Too bad, would have been too easy. I'm starting to see some batttery drain on my desire z now too. Im wondering if mine is a radio issue.
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I changed radios and did RIL matching last fall based on other's comments about better battery life, 4G and GPS. While I've had faster GPS locks and maybe better 4G performance, my battery life did not improve. It may have even gotten worse.
Today I'm trying out some different CPU governor settings. The CM 7.2 RC1 default is 'interactive' and I wouldn't normally touch those settings. I think the powersave governor helped a lot, but the phone became almost unresponsive. Trying 'conservative' now. I should have read This long ago, but just got around to it today. I might invest in the SetCPU app as well.
OK, I can count on a good six hours of normal use if setCPU is holding down the max cpu frequency at night or when the screen is off. I'm still tweaking. Today, the phone crashed while playing music over A2DP and tracking a run with runkeeper. I think it needs to tick faster than 368Mhz when the screen is off.
Are you seeing improvement? I changed radios and like you havent seen much improvement. But I am a little better off than you are. My battery drain is terrible (1-3%per minute) only when connected to the internet (4g or wifi) or using navigation. If the screen is off, or if Im using non-internet apps I seem to get regular battery use. Good luck with your cpu settings.. I have ordered a new battery, but I doubt it will solve my issue. I may try tweaking my settings too soon, but Id better research more.
Just wondering do you have SuperCharger V6 installed? On my Desire Z I had some serious battery problems just as you mentioned. After I would flash my ROM (wiping the caches + reinstalling) my battery life would return to normal. But whenever I would flash SuperCharger v6 my battery life would spiral out of control. My suggestion for a ROM that handles battery life fairly well is Andromadus Audacity B2, just make sure you download and flash GAPPs (google apps). For example running that rom I have been getting very good battery life, approx. 16-20 hours of battery life with moderate use) with default CPU settings and data always turned on. I'm sure if you use Juice Defender to control your data you'll get above average battery life.
Note: Andromadus is an ICS (android 4.0) ROM
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Just wondering do you have SuperCharger V6 installed? On my Desire Z I had some serious battery problems just as you mentioned. After I would flash my ROM (wiping the caches + reinstalling) my battery life would return to normal. But whenever I would flash SuperCharger v6 my battery life would spiral out of control. My suggestion for a ROM that handles battery life fairly well is Andromadus Audacity B2, just make sure you download and flash GAPPs (google apps). For example running that rom I have been getting very good battery life, approx. 16-20 hours of battery life with moderate use) with default CPU settings and data always turned on. I'm sure if you use Juice Defender to control your data you'll get above average battery life.
Note: Andromadus is an ICS (android 4.0) ROM
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Thanks (and thanked) Ive been waiting till ICS roms are bug free and having working cameras, but I think I may just jump on it now. My battery issues are untenable at the moment on a CM7 based rom. Thanks for the advice.
I was seeing some improvement due to SetCPU profiles. However, now if I have GPS and Bluetooth on so that I can listen to music and track my run in runkeeper, the phone seems to 'crash' after about 35 minutes or so. The battery meter shows that the battery takes a nose dive and I think the phone shuts down at 1%. If I restart the phone, it might say I have 30 or 40% charge left but then it drops rapidly again. It seems like it hates the warmth of my pocket. If I let the phone out in the cool air like on my desk, I can reboot at get back to 60 or 70% even though it was just saying 3%. I'm not running SuperCharger.
I'm trying to find cheap G2s for parts on ebay now. Maybe I can at least test out my six batteries in a different phone to see if any of them are shot. They all seem to have the same problems in my phone.
This will be my final update. I bought a used G2 off ebay. The same batteries I used before now show as fully charged when I expect them to be fully charged. I will be getting a feel for general battery life over the next few days, but I expect battery life to be roughly the same. I just won't have to guess at what the current battery level really is.
I'm seeing now that the new phone will show a 60% charge when the old phone shows 15% for the same battery at about the same time.
The new phone shows 100% when topped off but if I put the topped off battery in my old phone, I see 75-80% charge.
I may try sending the old phone to HTC depending on what they offer for repair services.
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I bought a used G2 off ebay. ... the new phone will show a 60% charge when the old phone shows 15% for the same battery at about the same time
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I think what's happened to your old phone (and mine!) is that the onboard voltmeter chip is reading low. I've compared the on-board mV reading to a multimeter-measured battery voltage and what the phone reads as 3.9V the multimeter gets 4.2V (a fully charged Li-Ion battery).
Who knows what's behind it, but it seems like a hardware problem to me.
My i747 had amazing battery life even with the stock rom when I bought it (brand new). I once got 30 hours with almost 4 hours of screen. Within 2 or 3 weeks, the battery started draining really fast for no apparent reason and the phone started warming up a lot after just 3 or 4 minutes of web browsing or texting. Then I remembered SetCPU and decided to reduce the clock to min 384 MHz and max to 1026 MHz. That didn't do it. The phone kept draining the battery unreasonably fast and warming up a lot. Then I tested a bunch of roms and none of them was able to reduce the consumption or the warming. It's almost like something physically damaged the phone and no software can get it back to how it was before. I don't believe any of my apps is causing this. They never show any significant usage on the battery stats screen.
TL;DR Had awesome battery life, then battery started draining really fast and overheating out of nowhere after a couple of weeks. Does anyone have any idea what may be causing this?
I'm running CM10 10.0 Stable and the latest Lightening ZAP Kernel.
I've always had problems with battery life that are somewhat random. Sometimes my phone will last over 24 hours with the same usage as when my phone decides to die in 8 hours. This is very concerning because I know a phone should not be this random with the same apps and usage charge after charge.
I've relentlessly searched for the wakelocks that keep this crazy phone awake using BetterBatteryStats, CPU Spy, Battery Monitor Widget and GSam Battery Monitor. My average charge time on a rooted stock 4.0.4 was about 20 hours. My average time on CM10 stable is 8 hours. I now carry around an external USB battery all the time because of this with a wall charger and multiple micro USB cables in my arsenal.
Now I'm playing with undervolting but I know that's not getting to the source.
My phone does seem to go into deep sleep when unplugged but only 50% of the time. I've read that VBUS_PRESENT is when charging with a non friendly charger. Well I've been using a stock Samsung charger that came with my phone and it still shows up. WLAN_RX_WAKE I'm totally not sure of...it uses a huge amount of time keeping the phone awake why?? I'm not sure. It didn't used to do this and I leave WiFi, Data, and Syncing on. I have the same outcome whether Google Now is on or off as well.
Any help would be really really appreciated. I think I have battled battery run time since I started using Android. I wish it wasn't like that because I love the openness of the operating system compared to iOS which I have used in the original iPhone and every generation up to the iPhone 4. If you guys require screenshots I'd be more than happy to give them. There are so many smart minds here that know far more than me and I know it!!
I'm having the same issue running Gangnam Style CM10 on my Evo 3D. I'm seeing huge wlan_rx_wake wakelock that I haven't seen on any other ROM (same networks).
Apparently, it's multicast network traffic that the phone should ignore, but instead wakes up and replies.
Sucks.
Hmmm strange. I reformatted my phone and wiped everything clean...and reinstalled CM10 stable with the newest lighting zap kernel. But now the phone app is taking a massive amount of power from wakelocks and CPU. My phone is left with a higher than average CPU idle running at 1566MHz for 40% of the time before my battery dies at 10%/hour. Something is really up and I can't figure it out. I know that when my phone was operating at 4+ hours per charge the temp would be under 30C. Now running at idle it's 33C. I normally never feel the back of the phone heat up near the camera LED but now it sometimes feels warm or hot when it's deciding to try to deplete power within a few hours. This is a strange thing....I don't hear of people with CM10 having this problem...or does everyone think having an 8-10 hour burn time is normal?
Just switched to Slim Bean ROM (JB) and still have wlan_rx_wake jamming me up on wifi networks.
u guys need to change the settings under the advanced menu to tell your phone when to enable/disable WiFi sleeping, the delay amount, that's what the wlan_RX wakelock is
as the op stated,vbus is indeed when using a charger other than the stock Samsung one that came with your phone
What should the delay amount be? I used to have it set to 5 minutes under "only when plugged in". I use my OEM Samsung charger and nothing else but I still get vbus.
I just did a test and turned all data and wifi off. Battery drain has been completely normal at less than 1%/hour. This is great so now I need to find my internet culprit. I get the same type of nasty battery drain with Wifi on, Data on, Wifi & Data on.
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u guys need to change the settings under the advanced menu to tell your phone when to enable/disable WiFi sleeping, the delay amount, that's what the wlan_RX wakelock is
as the op stated,vbus is indeed when using a charger other than the stock Samsung one that came with your phone
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I'd rather have the wifi never sleep. Why use a low speed, higher power radio (3g) when you have access to a wifi network.
Wlan_rx_wake never kept the phone awake on gingerbread ROMs.
Hi all,
Over the last three days I've been having some trouble with my S3's battery. Recently I've been experiencing large battery drain while not using the phone excessively. Today within 20 minutes of unplugging the phone from a full charge it read 40% charge. It's almost as if I am lacking 60% of my battery.. From when I got the phone (on release day), I had never found the battery to be very impressive. The advertised 800 hour standby time has always been far out of reach, and I often found myself having to plug the phone in after 7-8 hours, (I'm a student, so it's away all day as I'm in class, i.e, low use.)
I don't use WiFi (I have 7GB/mo data), I don't use automatic brightness (held between 5-20%), GPS is on (For some Tasker profiles, but is rarely used), and I have never used NFC/S-Beam.
I have done factory resets, two since having issues with the battery. The phone is rooted and is running CM 10.1-20130203-NIGHTLY-d2att, I thought that updating the CM build might help (Feb 3rd as you can see), but hasn't. Also it is underclocked to MAX 810mHz. Battery usage statistics pins the main user as the screen, but I feel this is false.
I'm thinking of buying a new battery, might that help?
TL;DR: I'm having battery problems, and have tried all the normal fixes I could find online. See the attached images for battery details.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
Thanks!
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Hi all,
Over the last three days I've been having some trouble with my S3's battery. Recently I've been experiencing large battery drain while not using the phone excessively. Today within 20 minutes of unplugging the phone from a full charge it read 40% charge. It's almost as if I am lacking 60% of my battery.. From when I got the phone (on release day), I had never found the battery to be very impressive. The advertised 800 hour standby time has always been far out of reach, and I often found myself having to plug the phone in after 7-8 hours, (I'm a student, so it's away all day as I'm in class, i.e, low use.)
I don't use WiFi (I have 7GB/mo data), I don't use automatic brightness (held between 5-20%), GPS is on (For some Tasker profiles, but is rarely used), and I have never used NFC/S-Beam.
I have done factory resets, two since having issues with the battery. The phone is rooted and is running CM 10.1-20130203-NIGHTLY-d2att, I thought that updating the CM build might help (Feb 3rd as you can see), but hasn't. Also it is underclocked to MAX 810mHz. Battery usage statistics pins the main user as the screen, but I feel this is false.
TL;DR: I'm having battery problems, and have tried all the normal fixes I could find online. See the attached images for battery details.
Any suggestions are appreciated!
Thanks!
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Get the app BetterBatteryStats to narrow down what's draining your battery.
Also, being so UV = takes longer to load stuff = longer screen time = more battery usage. UV too much results in higher battery drain.
Okay but...
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Get the app BetterBatteryStats to narrow down what's draining your battery.
Also, being so UV = takes longer to load stuff = longer screen time = more battery usage. UV too much results in higher battery drain.
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Okay I just bought Better Battery Stats, I'll let it analyze whats going on for the next few days.. And I assume UV means under voltage? Either way I put the processor speed back up to default (1512 mHz). But that still doesn't explain the 60% battery drop in 20 minutes after being unplugged.
I don't think it is possible for your phone in any case to drain 60% in 20 minutes. That's a ton of power usage, your phone would probably melt if it was using that much. Sounds like your phone is not reading your battery level properly. You may want to try resetting your battery stats, however I have heard that the s3 battery monitors its own level. In this case you probably would be better off just getting a new battery.
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