Hi Most of my songs are in m4a format that i keep on my phone while there great quality they take up a ton of space. So I was wondering what would be the best format to convert my songs to and at what bit rate while still retaining good quality sound and small file size
If you convert your files directly into a different format, you'll lose quality as you will be converting compressed to compressed audio (transcoding). You need to convert from the original cd, .wav or .flac files to maintain the quality of your music.
If you have these originals, try using foobar to convert them to MP3, either V0 (bigger files, better sound) or V2 (usually very difficult to tell the difference but a smaller file) with the LAME codec. You should be able to find these programmes and guides for using them by doing a google search.
[Edit] The above assumes that your .m4a files are not lossless. How big are the files and at what bitrate? If they are a good way above 320kbps then they will already be lossless and you convert directly. If not, the above applies. Right click and properties to have a check, or check using foobar.
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Hey everyone,
I was wondering if there was away i can recude my MP3 file sizes so i can store more songs on my mobile. Is there away?
Thanks
Craig
Very simple! Reduce the quality (bps). High quality means large files but you can still enjoy decent music at 96kbps (kilo bits per second) with about 2 megs. per song.
Try google for a free converter.
Also, if your phone does not support stereo playback, then you can further reduce MP3 filesize by converting your MP3 files from stereo to mono.
Goodluck
Very easy actually. If you have the CD, wack it in the CD drive and in media player adjust the Rip settings. The smaller the file size, the worse quality it will be in most cases. If you dont have the CD the best thing to do is go to www.google.com and search for a free mp3 converter. I hope this helps.
when I owned Siemens SL45i I've used "AudioConverter Studio" to reduce bitrate of MP3s. http://www.ManiacTools.com
You can give it a set of files, select output quality, press "convert" and all is done.
Or you can convert files to OGG format. They are typically smaller than MP3s with the same quality. There are some freeware converters on net.
Convert the files on OGG format, which btw is greatly compressed without affecting quality and then use MortPlayer to play your tunes.
cdex is a freeware open source ripper and reconverter it's pretty good
Buy larger storage
This is just another option for compression option have been stated at above threads
buy a larger storage card so you can store more mp3.
I have 1g SD so I dont convert my mp3 anymore. Converting it to smaller will lost it quality. I just copy music I like to carry then earase it and copy another set after sometime, I keep my collection at the PC.
I'm looking for a good converter which converts .avi to .mp4. I was using this one for my Touch Diamond 2 but I think the bitrate and stuff could be higher now when I got a Desire with better specs.
I used this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use Format Factory, it does a pretty good job and is free.
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Look at Xilisoft software. Not free but good for pretty much any video/audio convrrsion.
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I have compared different converters and I recommend Convert-tune to download and convert video and audio easily.
It converts music and movies, and also burn files on CDs. The converter is
easy to install and use.
when using Xilisoft program i had many audio/video , synchronization problems ...
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I'm looking for a good converter which converts .avi to .mp4. I was using this one for my Touch Diamond 2 but I think the bitrate and stuff could be higher now when I got a Desire with better specs.
I used this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Stick with that converter. It's awesome and there is no point in increasing the bitrate because the screen resolution and dimensions are the same. Increasing the bitrate will not show higher quality pictures.
AVS Video converter 6 is hands down the best converter i have used. Its not free, but its a good investment because it pretty much converts anything you throw at it. Even .mkv.
I use Handbrake on the Mac, think there is a PC version as well, works great.
+1 for Handbrake
You can pretty much just use the iPhone preset. You might need a laptop with some horsepower but it's worth using the h264 codec to reduce file size
http://handbrake.fr/
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You could just use RockPlayerBase to play the AVI instead of waiting for it to encode?
Tried using handbrake but neither Rock or the native player will recognise the m4v or mp4 file - any suggestions?
DroidBois said:
Tried using handbrake but neither Rock or the native player will recognise the m4v or mp4 file - any suggestions?
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Why would you wanna use RockPlayer to watch .mp4? Just don't encode the videos.. leave them .avi or whatever, RockPlayer will play it. If you have .mp4 from beginning just use the inbuilt player.
Because I'm trying to save space and cram as many in to the memory card as I can - it's for a 6 week holiday so I want to take as much as I can. 700MB / file is un-necessarily large for a phone?
Well, I got a 32GB SD card right now and that's alooooot of movies.. I don't know what you got but converting to mp4 isn't saving so much space.
I thought a 700MB filecould be halved quite easily without any noticeable loss in quality, perhaps not? I want to take about 30 files with us, so a 16GB card or two won't be enough. We'd need 20 - 25GB of micro SD storage! With that much to carry around for an extended holiday, any saving of space would be substantial. The native player does seem to play the .avi files the files are currently stored in, however it seems a waste to keep them in their current size for such a small screen?
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I thought a 700MB filecould be halved quite easily without any noticeable loss in quality, perhaps not?
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Impossible unless of course the "video" happens to be a plain black image
sunny_mm said:
If you want to convert AVI files to MP4, you can go to try Kigo video converter free for Mac.
Kigo Video Converter for Mac supports converting all popular video formats including flv, MPEG1, MPEG2, MP4, 3GP, 3G2, MOV, AVI, M2TS, MPEG TS/TP (for HD Video), M4V, etc with perfect output quality and high conversion speed for Mac OS X users. You can also extract audio from videos.
The free video converter offers various powerful functions to edit your video files, such as trimming movies into segments, merging files to single file, cropping video size, setting video effects, and even adding watermark onto your movies.
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I know you want to get 10 posts, but try posting in newer threads, instead of resurrecting 3 year old ones.
Get mx player and play a avi movie and it starts laggings so I change the codec at top right corner to sw and the video was playing perfectly no lag.
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I'm no expert in audio codecs, so I'm just wondering what people's opinions are of these two file types. According to Wikipedia, they are both lossless codecs, however the .m4a files that I have are anywhere from 1/3 to 1/4 of the size of the same song but in .flac. My phone plays both file types just fine, so I'm wondering if there's a bigger advantage to flac that would justify the much bigger file size?
I know that cyanogenmod supports wma in the music player, I was wondering if anyone knows if that be easy or difficult to port to xdandroid? (or a good way to get wma support)
thanks!
so, made a bit of progress. I looked at a cyanogen rom
I copied over the pvasf related files (file format for wma/wmv files) (in system/etc and system/lib)
and the libomx_wma/wmv decoder files (in system/lib)
and now I'm playing wma files perfectly on my sprint touch pro 2.
though, don't have meta parsing and it seems cyanogen does have support for that.
any chance this can be rolled into an xdandroid build?
WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.
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WMA is probably the WORST format for media. Statistics have shown that it's even worse than MP3 for acoustic reproduction.
I would advise avoiding that codec like the plague.
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#1, I've read many things that seem to imply that its not worse than mp3 (and definitely better at low bitrates)
#2, does it matter if I already have a lot of music in WMA format that isn't DRMd so that reencoding it would make things worse (I didn't choose WMA for these tracks, but I dont want to reencode)
#3, why would it be an issue if as I've shown support already exists in android and can be easily included at the loss of a small amount of space (been playing wma all day on my xdandroid sprint touch pro 2)
Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...
ok, so we agree. I wouldn't use wma for anything I make either, its more of a historical artifact that I have it (and was mostly a windows mobile user before when I collected it, so didn't mind).
I'm not sure how to get metadata working, but not the biggest deal
Is this working yet?
if you follow my steps, it works to play (though doesn't get any info out of the files).
I've stopped doing anything with this as bought an Epic 4G.
I have tons of wma's. This would be great if I could use them with out converting them to MP3's
Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.
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Hi kwoodyusa, I guess you'll have to tweak your build by hand, following thetoady's directives in post 2.
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what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.
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what was said, it was pretty easy, I just copied files over and then it just worked.
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How about posting those files here? Please?
1) download hero rom from
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
2) unzip it.
3) files are where I say they are in post #2 (though for system/lib they are system/lib/libpvasf*
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Eh, no reason it shouldn't be supported in Android, I just know that it's awful - especially at low bitrates.
OGG Vorbis and AAC are the ONLY codecs I would trust at any bitrate that would be considered 'low'...
Let me find the research...
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Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.
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Thats funny every thing I've ever read says AAC is the worst. and WMA beats MP3. And lets face it OGG is a non-factor.
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lol we're talking about the same bitrates right? WMA has a 'lossless' option, so if you're comparing that to MP3 then it's not apples-to-apples anymore...
I mean let's take one file. Compress it to 64kbps. Same song, same bitrate, different formats - which would perform the best? AFAIK, OGG would be #1. Then AAC, then MP3, then WMA last... WMA is a horrible format from what I remember reading, but I can't find the dang report I read - which was years ago, to be honest... But MP3 is 17 years old...
I have a bunch of FLACs loaded in my foobar and that's how I listen them. I haven't found any easy way convert/upload the files into some cloud storage. I can convert the files to mp3 and then upload to Google Music, but it's a major pita. I want something that works on the fly. Anything like that exists?
You don't need to convert them, the Google music uploader will do that for you.
Or select them in foobar, choose convert and choose a folder in Dropbox/box/copy as the output folder.
Edit: typos.
I believe google music uploader automatically converts flac files to 320kbps mp3 files