Ok, so because of NDAs and all that jazz, im still willing to contribute... I do need to know if there are any users with the Bada 2.0 SDK, I had a few questions, and I will post some info about things that pertain to the 2.0 platform. so pm or email me
I requestet the samsung partner status my old dev mentor suggested it. He said that the partners has access to the newer sdks before any other devs. We will se if my request will go through the certification.
The answer should come during the next week. I think we will see some Interface changes in the emulator of the sdk, yet it looks always like the true bada on the device.
Some interesting things will be surely there i will post some imagas if i got the partner status and the sdk.
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Hi all,
I created this thread to collect informations, suggestions and links for who want to start learning developing android applications, whitout being an expert developer.
I like programming (vb6, vb.net ) but I don't know anything about android and linux, and just a little about java... Now I bought an Hero and I met android world... I downladed Eclipse IDE, Android SDK and I starded with dev guide on SDK... I just take a look to helloandorid application... it works! and now? In the xml layout seems easy to add View like buttons or text... but how can I handle to the user actions like the button click? in vb is simple to manage the buttonpressed event...!
If someone knows some simple guides about java, eclipse and android, please let links on this thread!
Thank you!
This one's awesome for learning how to create widgets:
http://nm-blog.sanid.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/android_howto-hellowidget.pdf
here are some other resources you could easily find by using google search:
http://www.helloandroid.com/tutorials
http://nexsoftware.net/wp/2009/07/29/tutorial-creating-a-custom-analogclock-widget/
http://www.anddev.org/index.php
Other than that, just start from the simplest Hello World -examples on Google's own Android site.
I'm going to start leurning Android programming
If ill find nice links i will post them here. Is there btw a way to program inside visual studio? Cuz all tutorials on the net are using eclipse.
You'll need to use Eclipse to my knowledge as its all Java based. The other alternatives are the IntelliJ plugin and doing it all from Command line/Text Editor.
Back to the Topic, I'm just trying my hand at a little Android development this week too, the tutorials and manuals at developer.android.com have been great!
Another thing, while I remember, if you've done any sort of .NET/ASP.NET development before you should find it a breeze, apart from the lack of Visual Studio (best IDE that ever was), they're VERY similar compared to some other languages/technologies I've used.
HeY Furios, Im new to android dev also, so if you don't mind, I would like to follow you and share any info I find with you and to whom ever else would like any info...Thanx
SDK 2.1
Hi Guys,
I went onto the SE developer site and got he x10 SDK, but it only gives me the choice for a 1.6 virtual Machine. Is there another place that I have to go to get the SDK for 2.1?
Thanks.
It would be cool to learn how to develop roms as well...or is that much deeper?
Well guy's start here on this thread first >>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=667298
Made me think
need minor help!
im actually developing a few games, but im running into some seemingly basic issues, that i seem i cannot get to work. basically a button mash game, single/multi player, well on multi player i cannot for my life get the multi player functions to work, as in in the end the game already knows who the winner is based on an integer score, then it is supposed to use an sqlite database to take the highest scored player such as P1 or P2 and allow them to input there name to be permanently displayed. it cannot seem to differentiate using IF statements, but the feature does work with single player flawlessly, i may link source code if asked, TY
I would like to begin an initiative to port the Android Dalvik JVM to Bada. This would open up access to Android applications on the Bada platform and even allow for the creation of hybrid applications.
If you are interested in the project please put forward your advice and offer your assistance.
I am personally quite busy with other side projects but would love to create a bit of momentum and get this off the ground.
Hope this finds you all well.
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sabianadmin said:
I would like to begin an initiative to port the Android Dalvik JVM to Bada. This would open up access to Android applications on the Bada platform and even allow for the creation of hybrid applications.
If you are interested in the project please put forward your advice and offer your assistance.
I am personally quite busy with other side projects but would love to create a bit of momentum and get this off the ground.
Hope this finds you all well.
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Grt.......i am tester basically and i dont have any knowledge on programming...plz let me know if i could help you in anyway....
I think this could create a lot more work than intended because:
Bada would have to somehow support Intents/Activities
Same can be said about the UI (this could open up a can of worms) trying to match up Android UI with Bada UI aspects such as lists, menus etc
How can a dalvikvm based app be executed - we're talking about multilayers - am not sure if Bada can launch an app in this way
Dalvikvm machine under Android, is the main engine, under Bada, the C++ Runtime executes the binary, we're talking about a binary launcher launching a dalvikvm, in turn to launch a dalvikvm bytecode, that kind of process could consume far too much memory.....
Its too early to say yet at this stage on the bada SDK if it has the necessay support in place to enable this project to get off the ground
Just my 2cents
Good points. We need to establish how exactly android launches applications using Dalvik.
Does anyone know which libraries and dependencies Dalvik relies on in android?
We could create a wrapper which allows dalvik to be launched as a standard Bada app and then run a given application. Thoughts?
I did try port python 2.6 to bada last year and failed miserably due to the limited api's in place, unfortunately for bada, the majority of the API's are not there because the underlying architecture is nucleusRTOS which has a hacked up newlib and also a crappy compiler by codesourcery.
so does that mean that bada platform is not good?
I would not jump to that conclusion either...
Bada SDK has a lot of "growing up" to do... give it a chance
Who knows.... maybe bada 2.0 might have linux in place, instead of nucleusRTOS, for full head on linux sdk compatibility, multitasking.... who knows... just watch this space and wait and see....
Lets not focus on the kernel space for a second, at a user space level what BSD libraries are there?
i really thinkt hat one of the fastest ways to get a new OS on all waves mobiles is to collect some money and put it as a bounty for the releaser
i mean, it's already a LOT of work to port a new OS on a mobile phone, it's even harder if it's free D:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/myriad-alien-dalvik-runs-android-apps-on-any-phone-starting/
This company proved my point. Nice working being interested in something that is clearly worth being interested in guys.... *Facepalm*
@sabianadmin : really it would be great if it could happen to bada. Your idea was great to port dalvik on bada. Are you working on it?? just curious !!
Maybe this http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/myriad-alien-dalvik-runs-android-apps-on-any-phone-starting/ will be ported to Bada, too...
Yep been working on it for a couple of days. talking to a few people and getting and trying to figure out how to make a self contained dalvik wrapper (Myriad use Qt, we could do the same if someone ports Qt to Bada :-/ ). it really shouldn't be *that* hard to do.
@anghelyi i posted that link like 2 posts ago?!
It'd be pretty sweet if you could get in touch with Myriad and find out about their Alien Dalvik
Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
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Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
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sabianadmin started this topic with the intention of discussing about the possibility of porting Dalvik VM to bada and not the whole android. That topic has been discussed and closed elsewhere.
wavedroid said:
Damn If you want to Port android to the Samsung wave go to the androidport site
We gonna port android 2.2 to the samsung wave (and we finally got an working ARM7 tool)
Just if you want this go to us
Just wait for that we been finished and you'll can do anything you want
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Once again proving your sheer stupidity. I am talking about running the Dalvik JVM to run android applications. Did you even read what we have been talking about here? This has nothing to do with porting the Android platform to the Wave.
Go troll on your own forums buddy.
I dont' know, but it seems that porting Myriad it would be more easy, interesting and powerful for run android apps, than porting android OS.
When they would release the source code?
The only problem is that Myriad uses Qt and so far we have not ported Qt to bada... Anyone want to give it a go? (yeah i know about the bada-lighthouse project)
Myriad
I'm new to this forum and just found this discussion via Google while looking for some related details on Dalvik.
Isn't the Turbo Dalvik from Myriad closed source, seems like a commercial product aimed at companies?
Hello,
I just got my kin two the other day but have been doing research on hacking it for a couple of weeks now. I am no hacker or programmer but do have some knowledge. I think we need to look at things in a couple of ways based on what I have been seeing in regards to what is working and what isn't.
The most promising thing I have seen so far is a zune hack. This phone is basically a zune with a phone. Windows CE and Tegra APX 2600. I was also successful in viewing the files on my kin two in windows explorer as a flash drive using the same hack that was available for the Zune. The Zune has been jailbroke. We should be able to do the same on this phone. One thing I was looking at is the XNA development kit from Microsoft that is used to program for Zune. There is a glitch in it that allows free access to Windows CE on the Zune. If we could get this program to recognize the Kin Two as a Zune, I believe we could get in!
Another option is finding an exploit (possibly in the browser). Run some javascript which executes some shell code allowing us access to the phone. This is basically a "drive-by-download" which has been done many times on pc's.
I am more interested in looking into the similarities with the zune at the moment but one thing is for sure, we do need more interest in this phone. I recommend asking experienced programmers on hacking forums or anywhere. Also... college computer science and software engineers are always in need of projects. Many times you can talk to the department head and a student could work on it for a project. So, if you have a college in your area, go talk to them. We need to spread the word and get people interested in the possibilities of this phone!!!
Lets hack this thing!!!!!
Have you guys tried asking help from Olipro or Cmonex? These guys are masters at creating HardSPL on Windows Mobile, maybe they can help out with this? It might even be a challenge for them.
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Have you guys tried asking help from Olipro or Cmonex? These guys are masters at creating HardSPL on Windows Mobile, maybe they can help out with this? It might even be a challenge for them.
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Counting that the above it's true, the problem is that we still have no drivers nor known way to "flash"/write the "created" HardSPL or a ROM on the device.
At least not that i know (no experience on the topic).
If they also find a way to do so, i could do nothing less than bow em.
We shoudl try and find some of the actual M$ devs that worked on this project. Surely they are angry about how things turned out and would be willing to dish Anyone seen any docs listing developers?
One word: NDA
Anyway, you dont need any docs, you could find most of them just doing google searchs.
"site:linkedin.com kin phone"
Meh.
I've recently come across the Touch Studio app and I'm loving everything about it so far. The only thing I haven't been able to find is an English forum with ideas and example codes, yes I know most of the code in Touch Studio is still fairly simple and self-explanatory but it would be nice to see what others are managing with it.
I have come across a Swiss site that has a few nice codes and some other awesome stuff. It would be awesome if we could start something like that here. I've now stopped playing in my spare time (sorry devs) and messing around with Touch Studio. This is just another thing that seperates WP7 from the rest, hope MS keeps up the good work.
For those who have never seen Touch Studio before you can find more info here:
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/touchstudio/
So is it a good place for someone who hasn't done any code or programming a good place to start? Can you use what you write for the phone it is on or does it still have to go to marketplace before it can be used and you have to download what you wrote from the marketplace to use it yourself? Answered. Do you have to get a dev permit(or whatever it is called) from MS to use the program at all? Answered.
Sorry just listened to podcast 48 on Social Times and the stuff you write is only on the phone, not sharable currently. So just the first question for anyone that have used it.
I have coded a few apps for personal use on my phone, and I would suggest microsoft visual studio for coding apps for WP7. There are great tutorials on the microsoft app hub website for first-time coders. I cant post links, but search microsoft app hub and have a look around that website. Very helpful
Yeah, as you noted the apps you write are only useable on your phone. But the latest version has an option for you to share the code.
I'm not sure how easy it would be for someone with zero experience. I did some very basic programming in Visual Basic 4 ages ago so I have the basic understanding of the simplest commands (e.g. IF THEN WHILE etc.). I don't think it is that hard to understand and should only take an hour or so to fully grasp the concept. There are some excellent tutorials online as well.
(Why) is TouchStudio no longer downloadable?
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I've recently come across the Touch Studio app and I'm loving everything about it so far.
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Folks, I have been wanting to try out developing some codes ever since I became aware of Touch Studio (a week or so back). Any idea why Touch Studio is NOT downloadable of late? It appears in Zune and you can read the description but no download facility is available. If the information helps - am using HTC Mozart, T-Mobile, based in Germany. Many thanks!
I was able to download it and run it. Using Samsung focus mango beta 7712
@Jason: Thanks Jason; I'll await the official Mango update (no clue when in Germany / T-Mobile); may be it will work out fine automatically thereafter. I got a comment from TouchStudioApp on Facebook: "we are sorry for the inconvenience; please stay tuned for the next update". Have asked them whether it's Mango or the next TouchStudio app they are talking about.
Yeah, I guess they took it offline till Mango, hope they have something exciting in store with the new APIs and such that Mango will bring.
well, i would love to see someone uploading the xap
edit: downloaded touchdevelop
Just recieved an update for TouchStudio it is now called TouchDevelop. Now it is at v2.0. The whole interface has been redesigned, you can now download and post scripts within the app and they have also revamped various other things. Slightly confusing at the moment but will have a look tonight to work the whole thing out.
Create a section B.a.D.a devoperlers school?
with someone who will help us to easily create programs with applications that we release samsung?
XD
here we bada users are not wished, you will see most users would call you crazy to release apps for bada. Also the mods seems to be not interested in us. I would help with some examples if time is left why not.
My favorit bada app coder helper is this guy:
http://horrorcoding.altervista.org/
He has a lot experience with most languages and decided to provide examples for beginners in bada ecosystem.
For me he is something like an hero, i like his coding style and his knowledgement.
if you want it just create it, simple. This is the response you'll get most likely if you ask such questions.
And please, write bada normal way, you're not cool by writing it using this stupid case ;/