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Hello everyone,
I have a simple question that I have yet to come across a decent answer too.
What is the main or real reason people root there phone for.
Is it basically like jailbreaking the iPhone or are theredifferent reasons?
I've bought my EVO 4G about a month ago and have been waiting for a root for the gingerbread 2.3.3 update that came stock with my phone.
The reason I'm asking this is should I really be waiting for a root? In other words why am I waiting for a root?
I personally love the phone as it is and I have had no problems with it.
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I recommend not rooting if you are asking those questions. I'm not trying to be rude at all.
Root is the name of the admin account in the Linux and Unix operating systems. Think of not having root as running in protected mode.
If you accept the responsibility of maintaining your own security, and don't mind invalidating your warranty then it is for you.
I didn't decide to root until one of the OTA updates from sprint forced a trial video game down my throat that couldn't be uninstalled.
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Oh I forgot to add, if you are planning on rooting I highly recommend loading the ROM MIUI.
A forwarding, however, 4G has not been implemented yet. Not a downside for me though. I rarely used 4G. The 3G here is fast enough.
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I root due to the need to remove "everything" that "they" put in. If you do not understand you are one of "them"
Thank you for the reply I understand what root is as I run blackbuntu on my desktop.
I wanna know what makes it different. Why are so many people wanting root on the EVO?
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Some people do not like HTC Sense. Some of the Sense based custom rom's run smoother than the stock rom's.
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Because people want to truely have control of the content on their phone
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I understand that, but what I don't understand is why would people sell there phone and trade it in and all just because they don't have root.
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Trytohaxme said:
I understand that, but what I don't understand is why would people sell there phone and trade it in and all just because they don't have root.
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because not having root drains the battery faster because of the Sprint Bloatware. Also having root lets you control you phone and do what you please with it like flashing custom roms and kernals and radios and other groovy stuff.
My main reason I want root is not only to get rid of the bloatware but that way I can have a unique phone and not like 80% of everyone else who has a stock EVO
My reason was so I could have total control of my phone, streamline it by removing the stuff I don't need, freeing up memory and storage space, modifying it to look how I want it to, coaxing a faster, smoother phone and being able to try out different setups to see which gives me the best performance.
I never use thethering.
HipKat said:
My reason was so I could have total control of my phone, streamline it by removing the stuff I don't need, freeing up memory and storage space, modifying it to look how I want it to, coaxing a faster, smoother phone and being able to try out different setups to see which gives me the best performance.
I never use thethering.
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+1. Same reason except I tether from time to time
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I root for the custom roms and kernels. I'm a synergy fanboy but its close to stock. Check out YouTube, look for an MIUI video, its truly amazing.
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Because AOSP is how it should be.
And that rhymes too.
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Because AOSP is how it should be.
And that rhymes too.
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LOL, he has a valid point. People like AOSP, some people like sense. Rooting let's you pick 'n' choose. Not being "stuck" in stock. I love my phone heavily themed, the eye candy sets it away from my friends phone. Plus my battery life/performance are much greater. But of course there are lots of reason to root and not to.
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I root because I own the damn device.
Everything I do with that root access is secondary to that.
Well I would love to get rid of all the bloatware and the time sound delicious.
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Because the ladies love it
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I rooted for the ability to tether. It also comes in handy when you need to replace a file like the flash file so that I can watch hulu on my browser. Another thing I should point out, HDMwIn allows me to mirror my display (no limits) over to my tv. With stock and no root, I can only display videos/pictures I recorded myself.
If anything, once they find a way to root 2.3.3, you should try it. Then if you don't like it, you can always set it back to oem status. There's a guide somewhere here.
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I root for mobile hotspot.
29.99 to tether with Sprint's 3G? bah, haha, ha, ha-ha
Being able to fix security holes and update your phone yourself is another big upside to having root; you can make sure it's secure yourself without having to wait forever for an update that may or may not come. That also happens to be one of the reasons why you will not see MIUI on my phone.
I have an update available on my new tablet I got yesterday day. Where do I find update info about it? Will I lose the ability to root if I take it?
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I myself am new to the a100 community, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Now, from my current knowledge, if the update is for version 3.2.1, you will lose ability to root. With that said, if u want root, you should probably stay with ur current version.
Also, I believe some users have said they've been able to root the newer version (3.2.1) by the same 3.2 root method. They did encounter some problems but got around them easily somehow. But since I dnt know much on this, again, I advise against updating, unless you can confirm with someone whose successfully rooted the update and can get some clear instructions on how to root the newer version.
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i have 3.2.1 and have rooted with su and others.
I myself have also updated to 3.2.1 and rerooted with no issues at all. The update is vital if you use headphones and hate how the screen autorotates when installing apks.
You can still easily achieve root with the new update, but we're still somewhat limited on what we can do with it because there has yet to be a custom recovery, or custom roms.
If you so choose to root, and find an Acer recovery tool on the market, don't use it because it won't work for the A100 and will definitely mess your tablet up.
After rooting, check out the "themes and apps" section to see what deb's have come up with for rooted tabs.
And remember, READ EVERYTHING BEFORE TAKING THE FIRST STEP!!!!!
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I wish I had an update. I check it daily and as of today....nothing.
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killerapl said:
I wish I had an update. I check it daily and as of today....nothing.
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same here.
no update for me too.
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would have any problem to receive an upgrade if app eliminated several of the system?
regards
Same here no update. What gives?
No update, reporting in.
no update here either,anyone know how or by what criteria or location acer distribute it?
maybe going from 3.2 to 3.21 is only minor ,,but it does raise question of when ICS is released,will some have wait months longer than others?
freqchris said:
no update here either,anyone know how or by what criteria or location acer distribute it?
maybe going from 3.2 to 3.21 is only minor ,,but it does raise question of when ICS is released,will some have wait months longer than others?
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From my experience with the A500 you can wait a day to month. I'm not sure how they roll out updates but its dumb.
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Acer_A100_2.001.01_COM_GEN2 (android 3.2.1)
Acer_A100_2.001.01_COM_GEN2 (android 3.2.1)
http://narod.ru/disk/30583572001/ACER.zip.html
http://www.multiupload.com/YRSV5O89EC
how would you install the zip update?
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jahciple said:
how would you install the zip update?
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19861489&postcount=36
Maybe they found some problems with the update and decided not to open it up to all regions.
if theres no real difference with this update, i think i will skip it for now.
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Once I enabled the "Update" feature, it was immediately avail to download.
Settings > About Tablet > System Update > ...and check for updates.
mmm I still dont get the update,,maybe they don't like Canadians?
Would help if I told them Im not Canadian,,but English just living in Canada??
But seriously it occurred to me that they maybe put a hold on the update,,,as ice cream sandwich is supposedly coming for A100 in January,but if some are still getting the 3.21 update obviously not
Thought I'd share this awesome information.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/look-out-carriers-rom-developers-can-now-push-android-updates/
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Not that new - I remember warm two point two had something similar.
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xCovErtWolFx757 said:
Thought I'd share this awesome information.
http://gigaom.com/mobile/look-out-carriers-rom-developers-can-now-push-android-updates/
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Hmmm. not sure if this is good news or scary. Without really good security on these OTA update servers it seems like a malicious developer could spoof an update and offer anything they wanted masquerading as an update.
i'm currently running blazer 1.6 on my gs3 and i can't do the ota updates.
I like the idea, if implemented properly it could be great.
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poit said:
Hmmm. not sure if this is good news or scary. Without really good security on these OTA update servers it seems like a malicious developer could spoof an update and offer anything they wanted masquerading as an update.
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Like any OTA, take it at your discretion. I rather just wait for it to get posted on XDA.
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This isn't new really. I have had ROMs that offered otas on other phones but it is sketchy at best. The news here is that its going to be easier instead of the dev having to create all the code on their own. I think this could cause some problems though. When I flash an update to cm10 I have to flash gapps and then flash on screen buttons. When there is another kernel available I'll be flashing that as well. So unless you can tell it what all to flash automatically afterwards its not for me.
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This isn't new really. I have had ROMs that offered otas on other phones but it is sketchy at best. The news here is that its going to be easier instead of the dev having to create all the code on their own. I think this could cause some problems though. When I flash an update to cm10 I have to flash gapps and then flash on screen buttons. When there is another kernel available I'll be flashing that as well. So unless you can tell it what all to flash automatically afterwards its not for me.
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It's flashes new components there won't be a need to flash gapps and other flashables. And obviously as others have stated, it's not new. You don't need to repeat what others have said. (no offense)
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Who would have thought that, OTA for rooted devices! Isn't that great
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Hey guys..
Straight forward question..
Is it possible to password protect our Download and Recovery modes?
And i mean when you press and hold vol dwn+home+power method. Not through the android software reboot menu.
I want/like this idea because if someone were to steal my phone. They would NEVER be able to flash a custom ROM or even flash a stock ROM img. They would be completely locked out making the device useless to them.
The only way i think they could get past it is by using JTAG to overwrite the download partition with a stock one. But hardly anyone has a JTAG device.
Well this would be awesome. lol
Have at it
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
elesbb said:
I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
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As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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DocHoliday77 said:
As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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Too bad it's not the HD2
But yes I think one would need to be made for each device... and if I or anyone can create the bootloader, how would you flash the bootloader? JTAG device?
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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DocHoliday77 said:
Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Hey you could be right too! I never knew that! Hmmm I think in my spare time I shall delve into this!
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Best of luck on it man! If I can be of help let me know, though on this dont expect a lot from me!!
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that is a great idea indeed.:good:
Very interesting topic, but I think it is impossible to do (Recovery & download) are design to prevent forgotten password issues.
What a pity
Guys i thnk if it can be done
It will be easy to install it on our devices if rooted (stock android)
As companies like sammy ,htc have diff kernals
I thnk we can successfully do this fr nexus ,micromax ,karbonn etc.....
Lets have a try
Ny one tried this before
If so plz gimme a guide of it so that it will b easy fr me
Lemmi try my best fr us to have ultimate theft protection on our android devices
I hope if it wrks google may add it on its future devices
The "ultimative" protection would be:
When a phone is stolen, you can remotely trigger "the suicide button" xD
When it is triggered and the phone receives the command (Even if the phone is running other ROM) it reboots the phone and erases the Bootloader and some other things that are important for the phone to work.
Best. Protection. Ever.
Second thing I could imagine is that phone companies could protect the download mode with a password (12 digits or so).
That password will come printed on one of the manuals when you buy the phone.
If you attempt to flash an image in download mode, you will be prompted for the password.
And, optionally, if you put the password 10 times wrong, it will erase bootloader and etc.
Third idea: The download mode only will prompt for a password (printed on the manual), if you atempt to flash another ROM on it... Because this will change the confidential signature that the old ROM has passed to the download mode.
(I am not sure if this could be done. I'm just saying ideas...)
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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I rooted my s2 as soon as I got last year. I've run many roms. My favorite was Juggs 5.0. When ICS officially came out, I Odin to stock ICS. I rooted it so I could add my 15 toggle panel back on. There are a few apps I had that required root. I'm eager to get some JellyBean on it though. I did flash the google now and google ears. Those are pretty cool.
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Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Same here, still running stock ICS. If Jellybean is as smooth as they say and we get an official release, I may not ever root. At least not any time soon ...
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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^This.
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I'm pretty sure we're all rooted. Why would anyone come to xda? And what good is xda to a non rooted phone? Just sayen'
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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What's unrooted mean?
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That's like going to culinary school then never stepping foot in a kitchen.......
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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Haha good analogy. Also if didn't want to root and tinker, I'd probably own a iPhone. But to each their own.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Let's not knock this guy's choice to not root. At least he's here, following development and learning. How many "HELPPPP MY PHONE IS BRICKED!!!!!" threads have you seen? I'd say this guy wouldn't be one of those people if he tried to.
As for the OP I'm glad you had the sense to realize that without the know how, there's no point in risking it.
I rooted on day one, but to each his own
(Edit to clean up the wording. I'm high lol)
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sgalbincea said:
I come here, even though I am on the stock ROM on my current phone, to keep up with custom development for my phone. Even though I may not choose to load any of the ROMs or other mods provided here, it is still an excellent learning and news resource.
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Same here. My last phone (LG P500), which has now gone to my wife, is rooted and I like to stay tuned to developments for it as well. I expect that I'll root once I get 4.1 for my T989D (assuming it comes), then see what custom ROMs can offer beyond that. I've been reading these forums for over a month now to learn the procedures and of potential pitfalls so I don't wreck my phone when the time comes.
This phone is quite a step up from the P500, so I'm pretty happy without root for the time being.
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A jailbroken ifone is still gay. I'll rock a stock android over that crap.
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I'm guessing by this statement, that you are a young teenager. I am an Android user and have been for quite a while. I honestly prefer to live my life and not have to tweak a phone's core OS for it to work right. It should work correctly right out of the box. Having to reset my phone several times a day or deal with bloatware is not fun. The nature of Android OS to begin with requires de-bloat/hacking.
Anyway like I said this is coming from a SGS2 user and former iPhone user as well. Only reason I don't go back is iPhones are still physically small for my liking. That and I'm on contract with T-Mobile and live in a building with poor reception (need WiFi calling)
Bought the phone ... rooted it in less than an hour xD. But, after browsing through some roms, I am in stock now just because everything works. However, I do run some rooted apps that come in handy at times.
Battery
I wanted something close to stock, so I went infamous 3.0 and it's just as stable, but the battery life is so much better than stock ICS. Would never go back.
I think its insane to deal with bloatware. Its androids biggest flaw. And theaon reason I root.
Flash Jedi jelly. I promise you won't regret. ( you will lose WiFi calling tho)
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rooted and it rules
droptopMP said:
Just wondering.....that is all. I don't have the knowledge or the "need to" to root my phone does everything I want it to, so I never rooted.
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Rooting is essential to both experience android and master it
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