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Numerous "posters" have taken the habit of commenting without showing their signature.
I find this very disturbing as you do not know what they are referring to.
May I please suggest you put everywhere a STICKY reminder?
Keep up your b..... good site, Have a nice day and God Bless.
Mmmmm
Yes! it must be a rule... instead nobody read the rules..... but when we have time to attend those who has problems or opinions, we dont have enough info... maybe if they has it in their signatures, we have less posts unnecesary so it would be great that in login claim for fill these info with obligatory (*), before gain the access to the forum threads... what would you say?
and of course a request for the one who dont have and is new... thanks for read mods.
wait what are you talking about?
do you mean people are not showing their signatures (those little things at the the bottom of each post)? I suppose not showing it could be a problem if they reference it, but is that what you are talking about?
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Mr Mikechannon: (Or do I need to say: sorry SR!! but...I think...)
I like you to see some day the upgrade forum for HTC Wizard its full of people that bricks their wizards... why... cause he dont understands what he got on his hands...
For wizard is very important to know wich model to get the proper ROM if dont knows nothing about it...
This info is very usefull not comfort for the ones who answer questions and provides help or support... Never... its a pleasure can helps but then they starts to blame about this kind of thing... I know it doesnt matter but its so sad to read it.
Just read a little that has problems with dead or bricked wizards.
Examples
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2691375&posted=1#post2691375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427868
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428497
And so much more...
I know this is a hughe site, or tell us where to post to be able to ask for change the login info and make the user insert his info corectly.
Maybe I imagine this like an utopy but could be amazing have this kind of info by default.
Thanks just for read us GENERAL!!!!!
i see...
the thing is, alot of the problems in some of the other forums are not necessarily rom related, and rom questions could probably be better answered posting in the rom's thread.
despite what some may think, most problems are universal regardless of rom, at least in my experience.
+ Que PPC said:
Mr Mikechannon: (Or do I need to say: sorry SR!! but...I think...)
I like you to see some day the upgrade forum for HTC Wizard its full of people that bricks their wizards... why... cause he dont understands what he got on his hands...
For wizard is very important to know wich model to get the proper ROM if dont knows nothing about it...
This info is very usefull not comfort for the ones who answer questions and provides help or support... Never... its a pleasure can helps but then they starts to blame about this kind of thing... I know it doesnt matter but its so sad to read it.
Just read a little that has problems with dead or bricked wizards.
Examples
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2691375&posted=1#post2691375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427868
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=429554
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428497
And so much more...
I know this is a hughe site, or tell us where to post to be able to ask for change the login info and make the user insert his info corectly.
Maybe I imagine this like an utopy but could be amazing have this kind of info by default.
Thanks just for read us GENERAL!!!!!
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I see your point, but you can't make certain info mandatory for users. Most of the time when users post a "problem with device" type thread, they usually mention which it is. For the Wizard users that don't specify which model, it doesn't mean much except they never knew there were differences from the beginning most likely. Just point out the differences and most will catch on.
Nice try...
Already tried so... i think that we need to make a sticky likely thread saying!!!!
Y'ALL!!! Put your info device on your Signature before post!!!!
Maybe they can read it with hughe words.
I'm very sorry but as good a practice as it is we cannot enforce people to do so, adding a sticky would clutter most forums as most of the time there are already multiple stickies there.
The best you can do is suggest to people to put in their signature or post whenever they feel it's relevant.
Best regards,
Flar
Site admin
MY GOD!
Is SHE FLAR!!!?
Its Like GOD answering our question!!!?
Thanks a lot!!!... Im gona post a Sticky on every topic of Wizards forum, can I do it with hughe Words???? maybe inside of it... instructions to fill the signature with the info We need... thanks God... sorry... Flar...
+ Que PPC said:
Is SHE FLAR!!!?
Its Like GOD answering our question!!!?
Thanks a lot!!!... Im gona post a Sticky on every topic of Wizards forum, can I do it with hughe Words???? maybe inside of it... instructions to fill the signature with the info We need... thanks God... sorry... Flar...
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The Mods have to sticky your thread.
Geez, how nit-picky can you get??
I can understand the frustration of people who ask without searching or reading first. I've completely customized first my mogul, then my diamond.... and by spending far too many hours searching & reading (according to my husband.....)
I can also understand the frustration of newbies poking around in the dev areas.
But this is over the top.
Out of all those hours spent reading & searching, I've never seen a requirement to post a sig. Wouldn't apply to me anyway.... I don't flash ROMs. Personally, I don't pay attention to who is using what rom in their sig. I only pay attention to what links are there.
BTW, I never paid attention to it before, but it appears that the admin & mods don't do it either. So why the beef?
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nursie said:
Geez, how nit-picky can you get??
I can understand the frustration of people who ask without searching or reading first. I've completely customized first my mogul, then my diamond.... and by spending far too many hours searching & reading (according to my husband.....)
I can also understand the frustration of newbies poking around in the dev areas.
But this is over the top.
Out of all those hours spent reading & searching, I've never seen a requirement to post a sig. Wouldn't apply to me anyway.... I don't flash ROMs. Personally, I don't pay attention to who is using what rom in their sig. I only pay attention to what links are there.
BTW, I never paid attention to it before, but it appears that the admin & mods don't do it either. So why the beef?
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Already done...
Please any MOd can make stickie this threads the permisson was gave me by flar. so soryy if its repeated but we need to stops the problem...
Thanks For all Mods and ADMS.
the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430400
Thanks The ChampJT i forgot to advise to make it stickie-
Nursie I dont know nothing about Mogul but maybe the time you have xpended probably would be less tahn you took but answer without info is hard, and because the web is so hughe, your husband is a knowledge of comun sense, happy to obligate to read and read isnt it?
So this is why i did it, hope some body in every Device that has problems with version and Bricked too do this.
Thanks for all.
+ Que PPC said:
Already done...
Please any MOd can make stickie this threads the permisson was gave me by flar. so soryy if its repeated but we need to stops the problem...
Thanks For all Mods and ADMS.
the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430402
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430397
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430399
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430400
Thanks The ChampJT i forgot to advise to make it stickie-
Nursie I dont know nothing about Mogul but maybe the time you have xpended probably would be less tahn you took but answer without info is hard, and because the web is so hughe, your husband is a knowledge of comun sense, happy to obligate to read and read isnt it?
So this is why i did it, hope some body in every Device that has problems with version and Bricked too do this.
Thanks for all.
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I'm not sure Flar was giving permission, I think she was just saying that the best way to pass info to majority of the users is through stickies, but it may not be possible due to forums already being cluttered.
The theory is sound to add info to your sig but as with so many others in this forum I have a pile of previous devices and if I listed them all in my sig with all the relevent data, my sig would be longer than the message!
Plus, it would need changing every time I tried a ROM or added a supplier update/patch, I wonder how many have reflashed a ROM and not remembered to change their sig??
Also for the data to have some meaning you would need to include all software installed (interaction problems) and ever reg edit/Tweak they have added/removed. The list could be endless!
Its much easier for members just to try and remember to add the details in the message body when asking about problems with their device.
HTC Universal
HTC Startrek
HTC Wizard
HTC Hermes
HTC TytynII
HTC Touch Pro
HTC Shift
And still have them all...
I think the problem here is people not knowing how to ask for help. "Won't let me flash a ROM" and "Active Sync doesn't work" do not explain what the issue is. As a follower of Raymond Chen's blog and his war on people to ask the correct questions when requesting email support, there are a few things that should be mentioned in every request for help:
Specify the problem: What is the error, full details, error codes, message dialogs, etc. Or if there is no error, what did you expect to happen, why is something not working as intended.
What did you do: What steps have you followed to get to the problem (how to re-created it). And what steps have you taken to rectify the issue your self.
What is your environment: What phone are you using, what version of the software are you using, ROM version, radio / SPL / IPL, Windows version. Some of these are not applicable, but anything relevant should be listed. List other software you think could be contra-indicating.
This list is by no means exhaustive and of course, the standard Forum Rules on searching, duplicate posting, etc. should be followed. With this information, most people should have a clear idea of the issue and can offer the best help they can without having a long dicussion on all of the above points.
I take my hat off to the members that can answer questions without this information, they have amazing guess work.
Thanks
Dave
YES!!!
Everyone has good ideas, so forgive me for missunderstood the Flars answer... do what ever to help people efficiently.
Its our dont pay job.
But Im proud of it... yes getting all the info for you devices will be hard to put in 500 characters so... ask everytime.
i will edit the thread about the permission.
I'd like to edit or create a sliding panel in Ookba's latest EVO ROM release for IE. I have an idea of how to do it (or at least try) but would appreciate it if someone could post the action URL needed for IE and the icon/picture number. With those I think I can get into trouble on my own. I did a semi-serious search but didn't turn up anything that helped me out. Thanks in advance.
You guys are not following the rules!
This is a 3VO Rom question, and it should be posted in the proper thread , not make a new one.
All you guys are doing is making more clutter , more amount of results , when someone does a search. Please keep questions in the proper thread.
roloracer said:
You guys are not following the rules!
This is a 3VO Rom question, and it should be posted in the proper thread , not make a new one.
All you guys are doing is making more clutter , more amount of results , when someone does a search. Please keep questions in the proper thread.
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True Speak!
In genral the front page has become multiple "questions already answered" & "even non smartphone related outside of appropriate thread"
Yeah i'm b*chin
b.t.w roloracer your service icons look sweet
Okay, delete/move thread since I don't have the ability to do it.
Nailed On Da Cross !!! Lol
The funny thing is that in the time it took you to type up your admonishment I'd be willling to bet at least one of you (if not both) could have provided me with the info I'm looking for. Maybe a "Please keep all related threads together and by the way.." response. Just and idea. Everyone, including you, was a noob once.
First of all, I really enjoy the site, thanks for having it. It's an awesome place to come and get the info I need, and if i can help out others.
Anyways on to the first suggestion. I mostly stay around the htc hero (CDMA) section, so I'm not sure if this issue is site wide or not, but I've noticed a TON of spam. I realize moderators try there hardest to clean it up, but with such a large forum it's close to impossible to keep it clean, and I understand that. I think we need some sort of initiative to keep people from posting just for the heck of it. for example in the thread for the damagecontrol rom, I had to go through pages of spam to find useful info. People were posting things similar to "wow i've refreshed so much my f5 key is broke haha", c'mon that doesn't help out at all. Veering away from this subject a bit is all the people that just say thanks for the rom, perhaps this is a mod for vBulletin. I know there is one for IPB that adds a "thanks" button to the original post so people don't add "thanks for the stuff" posts. I don't know if everyone agrees with me but I'm really annoyed with having to go through page after page to find useful info.
This leads me to my second suggestion, which I'm not sure about. One idea I have to help organize the threads would be to add a wiki post right below the original post. I don't know if there is a mod available for vbull. to do this. An example of what I am thinking of would be here at slickdeals.net:
http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1906634
you can see in the wiki post, someone edited it to alert everyone that the deal is dead. I don't have to go to the last page to see this, it's right there. I truly think something like this would greatly improve organization and readability.
Thanks for reading and looking forward to reading responses,
-sam
Ok, awesome for the thanks feature. Thanks to that.
But, if we could also get a feature on the other end of that stick, that would be really great I think. A dislike, or thumbs down on posts that are just useless to the topic, then be able to set in your USERCP, any posts with -3 or more get auto minimized (clicking a + would open the post).
It seems more now a days than back in the day, there are more 'noob's on this site than ever. And they just cant seem to read. Or care to read. Or know how to read, the english language. So, they spam DEVELOPER threads, with 'does this woK?' 'eta on xxx' 'how to install this'....when, its ALL in the OP! Constantly, do I respond back with READ THE OP! Like they should be doing. + The stickies with tons of good guides in them.
So, I know the dislike/thumbs down wouldnt resolve this problem completely. But, it would help clear a huge thread (some with 1k+ posts) down so some of us that 'arent' noobs can go in and actually see comments relating to ROM, not the installation, or partition sizes (non-rom relation).
I understand, this could be abused. I really hope it wouldnt be. But, youtube uses a similar feature, like/dislike, and still use it. I am just throwing this out there, because a great thread (HERE if curious) is being BASHED with TONS of stupid questions. And damn, its very aggravating to see people not read, and im not even the dev...
Tried not making this a rant post. Just trying to see if there is 'some' solution to this 'on-going' problem (not JUST that thread, every thread has repeat questions). And maybe if people start seeing -10 on their posts or -50, they will know they are doing something wrong. Instead of me replying, wasting space I will hit the dislike instead .
Thanks for reading.
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WEIRD XDA- POSTED THIS HERE NOT IN ABOUT XDA...I HAVE ALREADY REQUESTED A THREAD MOVE
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Ok, awesome for the thanks feature. Thanks to that.
But, if we could also get a feature on the other end of that stick, that would be really great I think. A dislike, or thumbs down on posts that are just useless to the topic, then be able to set in your USERCP, any posts with -3 or more get auto minimized (clicking a + would open the post).
It seems more now a days than back in the day, there are more 'noob's on this site than ever. And they just cant seem to read. Or care to read. Or know how to read, the english language. So, they spam DEVELOPER threads, with 'does this woK?' 'eta on xxx' 'how to install this'....when, its ALL in the OP! Constantly, do I respond back with READ THE OP! Like they should be doing. + The stickies with tons of good guides in them.
So, I know the dislike/thumbs down wouldnt resolve this problem completely. But, it would help clear a huge thread (some with 1k+ posts) down so some of us that 'arent' noobs can go in and actually see comments relating to ROM, not the installation, or partition sizes (non-rom relation).
I understand, this could be abused. I really hope it wouldnt be. But, youtube uses a similar feature, like/dislike, and still use it. I am just throwing this out there, because a great thread (HERE if curious) is being BASHED with TONS of stupid questions. And damn, its very aggravating to see people not read, and im not even the dev...
Tried not making this a rant post. Just trying to see if there is 'some' solution to this 'on-going' problem (not JUST that thread, every thread has repeat questions). And maybe if people start seeing -10 on their posts or -50, they will know they are doing something wrong. Instead of me replying, wasting space I will hit the dislike instead .
Thanks for reading.
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Should be in the About XDA-Developers section, and if you had read there it's already been suggested and a beta was implemented in a GNex thread. This isn't HD2 related though so I'm reporting this thread to be moved
Oh and yes, that thread is being completely messed up by noobs.
EDIT: Lol posted this before your edit
Yeah, I understand the logistics of a forum, just wierd xda posted it in the other page I had open I guess (had hd2 forum open in seperate tab). I really dont know what happened.
Anyway
Ok so looking back 3 pages I found this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547887
I looked 2 pages, I guess shame on me for not looking further. But in anycase, it doesnt appear to be in the gnex threads anymore. So, just trying to get more support for them to bring it back I guess, hopefully in full scale. It would really help I think.
There was an experiment of this in the galaxy nexus forums... I believe it will now be improved based on what we found from that test
Guys, i am a frequent poster at a LeTV s1/X600 phone thread. It would be great if the first post was updated frequently about new information/FAQS/updates/news ROMs, important information, etc. However the OP user, has the account disabled. It's a mess that important information is spread across several pages*, not usefull for people that needs info (sometimes urgent) and not for the guys doing the answering, we don't mind answering, but it would be better for everyone if the important information was in one place.
Now, sure i could open a new thread, but somewhere in the future i will sell this phone and maybe not interested in updating the info on the first post. So, is there a way to have a post editable by more than 1 user so when someone leaves, others could continue updating?
*- This is indeed a typical problem of forums.
sansanc said:
Guys, i am a frequent poster at a LeTV s1/X600 phone thread. It would be great if the first post was updated frequently about new information/FAQS/updates/news ROMs, important information, etc. However the OP user, has the account disabled. It's a mess that important information is spread across several pages*, not usefull for people that needs info (sometimes urgent) and not for the guys doing the answering, we don't mind answering, but it would be better for everyone if the important information was in one place.
Now, sure i could open a new thread, but somewhere in the future i will sell this phone and maybe not interested in updating the info on the first post. So, is there a way to have a post editable by more than 1 user so when someone leaves, others could continue updating?
*- This is indeed a typical problem of forums.
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Sorry, this isn't really possible. The only way would be to give you the OP. And if you sell the phone and someone offers to take over, they could get the OP.
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Sorry, this isn't really possible. The only way would be to give you the OP. And if you sell the phone and someone offers to take over, they could get the OP.
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Ok, this seems reasonable. In case i open a new thread, but after a while i'm no longer interested maintaining the first post i could pass to other user. How could this be done? Is there a way to actually change the user for the first post?
Other way maybe... I could open a new user account and share it, this would be ok too, right?
sansanc said:
Ok, this seems reasonable. In case i open a new thread, but after a while i'm no longer interested maintaining the first post i could pass to other user. How could this be done? Is there a way to actually change the user for the first post?
Other way maybe... I could open a new user account and share it, this would be ok too, right?
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To have the first post ownership changed, just hit report on the opening post and request the change. If it's someone else's thread, they would need to initiate the change. You can pm a Moderator from your section as well.
And no, it's against XDA rules to create more than one account. Also, multiple persons accessing an account is never a good idea.
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Darth said:
To have the first post ownership changed, just hit report on the opening post and request the change. If it's someone else's thread, they would need to initiate the change. You can pm a Moderator from your section as well.
And no, it's against XDA rules to create more than one account. Also, multiple persons accessing an account is never a good idea.
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All right then. Maybe it's easier to start a new thread. We just want to make a informative (FAQs, updates, tutorials, etc) opening post. BTW, the thread is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-x600-s1-hands-antutu-camera-t3130033
As you can see, the OP has the account disabled. But ok, we'll probably open a new thread.
Thanks for the attention guys.
sansanc said:
All right then. Maybe it's easier to start a new thread. We just want to make a informative (FAQs, updates, tutorials, etc) opening post. BTW, the thread is this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/letv-one-x600-s1-hands-antutu-camera-t3130033
As you can see, the OP has the account disabled. But ok, we'll probably open a new thread.
Thanks for the attention guys.
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Given the circumstances in which he was banned, I think in this case it would be best to start anew thread. Once you do, let me know and I can close the old one with a link to your new one.