Searching the site is now limited to 1 search per 25 seconds.
If you search after 22 seconds, the 25 second timer resets.
This is horrible.
If you accidentally mistype when searching, or the scripts that are running flub your input, then 0 results are found. Obviously you aren't being malicious when modifying the search and pressing search again.
If you want to stop robotic abuse, put one of thos things in that makes you enter characters.
Or at least allow 2 searches in 50 seconds.
Or limit it to 2 in 50 seconds if 0 results were found with the initial search.
Can we please change this policy, to allow a 2nd search without delay if 0 results were found on the first search?
Normally, when I log into XDA, I search for all threads that I have posted in. I can then see if any new posts have appeared in threads that I have posted in. There is some script that runs, probably related to the adds the flubs my entry. So I'll end up search for JH3 or JV3, or something like that, instead of JVH3. 0 results are found. Of course I need to search again. Before the timer was 30 seconds. Sometimes I would search after 20 seconds, and it would say I need to wait 10 more seconds. Annoying, but it's just 10 more seconds. Now that resets to 25 seconds.
I would think this setting could be adjusted on a per user basis. the new policy is probably good for New users or users with a post count < 100 (non senior members) But users that have been around for over a year with 100+ or 1000+ posts are probably not robots.
Can we please change the search restrictions to take into account the user doing the search?
Thanks for your attention to this.
i asked for this over a month ago in the STICKY titled "requests from users to admins" at the top of THIS forum area...
AKA the place you should have asked instead of posting a NEW THREAD.
TRusselo said:
i asked for this over a month ago in the STICKY titled "requests from users to admins" at the top of THIS forum area...
AKA the place you should have asked instead of posting a NEW THREAD.
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Which option did you ask for?
Any reason you did not provide a link to your post?
I had seen that thread. When I read the description in post #1, it seemed that the purpose was to avoid the direct PMs of the mods and admins and wasn't about keeping additional threads from being created.
If all requests for anything related to the site are to be in that thread, then why have an entire forum dedicated to anything about the site?
And why is there not a statement in post #1 that is directly stating something like: All posts related to requests for change to the site belong in this thread.
But, there is not such a statement in post #1 of that thread or the first 10 posts of that thread. Any mod can modify any post, so it easily could be added if that is what the mods want the thread to be for.
Another thought. Let the amount of searches be determined by the number of Stars by your name. This would encourage donations to the site.
Take some base time for users that have made no donations to the site, like 30 seconds.
Each Star gives you that amount of seraches in that time frame.
Then donations would get you something more than just vanity stars.
JVH3 said:
Another thought. Let the amount of searches be determined by the number of Stars by your name. This would encourage donations to the site.
Take some base time for users that have made no donations to the site, like 30 seconds.
Each Star gives you that amount of seraches in that time frame.
Then donations would get you something more than just vanity stars.
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What's wrong with just wanting the stars. I feel like I'm on TV.
Seriously, though, the search time limit is REALLY annoying.
JVH3 said:
Searching the site is now limited to 1 search per 25 seconds.
If you search after 22 seconds, the 25 second timer resets.
This is horrible.
If you accidentally mistype when searching, or the scripts that are running flub your input, then 0 results are found. Obviously you aren't being malicious when modifying the search and pressing search again.
If you want to stop robotic abuse, put one of thos things in that makes you enter characters.
Or at least allow 2 searches in 50 seconds.
Or limit it to 2 in 50 seconds if 0 results were found with the initial search.
Can we please change this policy, to allow a 2nd search without delay if 0 results were found on the first search?
Normally, when I log into XDA, I search for all threads that I have posted in. I can then see if any new posts have appeared in threads that I have posted in. There is some script that runs, probably related to the adds the flubs my entry. So I'll end up search for JH3 or JV3, or something like that, instead of JVH3. 0 results are found. Of course I need to search again. Before the timer was 30 seconds. Sometimes I would search after 20 seconds, and it would say I need to wait 10 more seconds. Annoying, but it's just 10 more seconds. Now that resets to 25 seconds.
I would think this setting could be adjusted on a per user basis. the new policy is probably good for New users or users with a post count < 100 (non senior members) But users that have been around for over a year with 100+ or 1000+ posts are probably not robots.
Can we please change the search restrictions to take into account the user doing the search?
Thanks for your attention to this.
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We are working to bring the search experience back to normal and part of the reason we had tighten the search flood timers is due to a number of bots/scripts abusing the search functionality to the point where search would be overloaded and unavailable to all members. Clearly some search is better than no search. With that said, we have dropped the timer from 25 seconds to 20 seconds and will continue to tune the experience in the coming days.
Just as a possible suggestion to searching for your own posts, if you subscribe to threads (with no email notification), you can easily view if a thread has been replied to since you last visited the forum from the "User CP" paged linked to at the top of every forum page.
Regarding captchas, they are very annoying and it probably takes just as long to fill out the captcha as it would be to wait. We do have captchas for non-registered members but we unfortunately have seen bots that are logged in at the time of searches.
Thanks for your input!
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I was playing with my friends Nokia, and his hardware keyboard allowed him to turn on his flashlight (camera led) by holding down his spacebar.
So I was thinking, is there anyway to map the optical trackpad press on our dincs to do this?
Ideally when the screen is on/unlocked you would hold it down a few secs to turn it on, then hold down a few secs again to turn it off. Also if the screen was off/locked, then hold it down to turn it on but have it turn off the second you stop holding it (for accidental pocket presses).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813282
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=818075
judging by those two threads this doesn't seem very possible. is that what you were getting at? because you probably could have just said "remapping doesn't work"
rmoney said:
you probably could have just said "remapping doesn't work"
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Personally, I appreciate it when people provide me links to more information than a single line summary like, "remapping doesn't work."
But I'm sorry that I inconvenienced you with having to read other discussions.
You're welcome for providing you the information that you were too lazy to search out on your own.
rmoney said:
judging by those two threads this doesn't seem very possible. is that what you were getting at?
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Actually, what I was primarily getting at was the fact that at least two recent discussions cover this topic, and that information was there for the taking if you would take a few seconds to search / read.
There's a reason that the forum software tries to find similar threads every time you create a new thread. There's also a reason why the forum asks you if your thread is a question when you create it.
Finally, this doesn't belong in Development, since you didn't develop anything.
Since you like things summed up, here you go:
"Your issue has been discussed multiple times recently, it is a question, it doesn't belong in this subforum, and you may or may not have this thread locked or receive a temporary ban because of the aforementioned rules for this subforum."
Hope I didn't waste too much of your time this time.
BNG303 said:
Personally, I appreciate it when people provide me links to more information than a single line summary like, "remapping doesn't work."
But I'm sorry that I inconvenienced you with having to read other discussions.
You're welcome for providing you the information that you were too lazy to search out on your own.
Actually, what I was primarily getting at was the fact that at least two recent discussions cover this topic, and that information was there for the taking if you would take a few seconds to search / read.
There's a reason that the forum software tries to find similar threads every time you create a new thread. There's also a reason why the forum asks you if your thread is a question when you create it.
Finally, this doesn't belong in Development, since you didn't develop anything.
Since you like things summed up, here you go:
"Your issue has been discussed multiple times recently, it is a question, it doesn't belong in this subforum, and you may or may not have this thread locked or receive a temporary ban because of the aforementioned rules for this subforum."
Hope I didn't waste too much of your time this time.
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Wow....you could have just saved the time and not responded at all.
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Wow....you could have just saved the time and not responded at all.
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Indeed. I just didn't appreciate rmoney's dismissive response to what I thought was a helpful reply: providing him with relevant links.
My profile is still new on this site, and therefore i must wait 5 minutes between posting threads / comments
however - if i spot a spelling error in my post, just after submitting it, i'm not allowed to edit the post until 5 minutes after !!!
couldn't this rule be deleted ? - not the rule of 5 minutes between posting, but the 5 minute rule of editing ?
Editing seems harmless compared to posting...
Montago said:
My profile is still new on this site, and therefore i must wait 5 minutes between posting threads / comments
however - if i spot a spelling error in my post, just after submitting it, i'm not allowed to edit the post until 5 minutes after !!!
couldn't this rule be deleted ? - not the rule of 5 minutes between posting, but the 5 minute rule of editing ?
Editing seems harmless compared to posting...
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Unfortunately there were cases of spammers editing and adding links to get around the limitation, so we don't have much choice really as the spam would be overwhelming without it. I generally suggest a variation on the old saying, "read twice, post once"
It does end at 30 posts when you go from Junior Member to Member.
[GUIDE] - XDA New User Guide - Getting started on XDA
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mikef said:
Unfortunately there were cases of spammers editing and adding links to get around the limitation, so we don't have much choice really as the spam would be overwhelming without it. I generally suggest a variation on the old saying, "read twice, post once"
mikef
XDA Senior Moderator
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The 5 minute barrier isn't hard to live with - but i hope its gone soon...
but i fail to see why it would limit spammers...
1. How can I remove the posting limit, whenever I try to post it says try again in 5 minutes? Is this a temporary limit?
2. The XDA app frezes after every 5-10 minutes and then it force closes. I reinstalled it but that didn't work.
Sorry guys I don't know where to post such topics.
Please help staff.
mrishantsharma01 said:
1. How can I remove the posting limit, whenever I try to post it says try again in 5 minutes? Is this a temporary limit?
2. The XDA app frezes after every 5-10 minutes and then it force closes. I reinstalled it but that didn't work.
Sorry guys I don't know where to post such topics.
Please help staff.
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To contact XDA staff, you don't need to make a post but just move your mouse and point to the list of moderators on top of every forum header to PM them directly also this can be done by clicking the orange triangle on every post title header on your right corner.
2) To understand posting limit , read this
5 minute restrictions, is due to some people who register on web sites ( any web site including XDA) just to advertise their product, sex trade or call girls services) they normally use bots ( spam bots, which automates their spamming) so you can have numerous threads created by a spammer in a forum or many forums within five minutes, and to try and stop them will be fruitless as they just joined to do it (spam) and quit the forum. They will register again once banned using another name and do it again, so imagine the life of moderator deleting the spam, can be hell indeeed, when this restriction is not practiced, although it will affect legitimate junior members, it cannot be helped till you are a member ( meaning proven as a credible person and valuable member of this community after the initial 10 posts)
3) regarding XDA app you need to post here read or search that thread before posting , might help you understand ho many times such issues had been reported or resolved.
Check this out! Links to useful Guides and " Banned " Documentaries
xsenman said:
To contact XDA staff, you don't need to make a post but just move your mouse and point to the list of moderators on top of every forum header to PM them directly also this can be done by clicking the orange triangle on every post title header on your right corner.
2) To understand posting limit , read this
5 minute restrictions, is due to some people who register on web sites ( any web site including XDA) just to advertise their product, sex trade or call girls services) they normally use bots ( spam bots, which automates their spamming) so you can have numerous threads created by a spammer in a forum or many forums within five minutes, and to try and stop them will be fruitless as they just joined to do it (spam) and quit the forum. They will register again once banned using another name and do it again, so imagine the life of moderator deleting the spam, can be hell indeeed, when this restriction is not practiced, although it will affect legitimate junior members, it cannot be helped till you are a member ( meaning proven as a credible person and valuable member of this community after the initial 10 posts)
3) regarding XDA app you need to post here read or search that thread before posting , might help you understand ho many times such issues had been reported or resolved.
Check this out! Links to useful Guides and " Banned " Documentaries
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Thank you so much for your reply sir.
Why is this forum such an unstructured huge mess?
The forum homepage I have to interrupt, I don't know how big it is.
Where can I get a list of phones of one manufacturer for example?
Even a list of manufacturers I can't find.
Every page I call takes 10 minutes to load etc.
lkjsoiuew said:
Why is this forum such an unstructured huge mess?..........
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If I'm understanding you correctly, you have a few choices for obtaining a general listing of devices...
1) Use one of the following XDA Search Features.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/
https://www.xda-developers.com/search2/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
2) Use the following Device Listing page.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/all
3) Use the following Device Listing page but, it reflects this in a Compact View.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/compact
Just a side note for you to take into consideration...
It's extremely understandable to understand your point of view with the xda-developers currently having so many Device Dedicated Areas on the Forum, as well as additional ones being created every day/few days, it can become very overwhelming to locate something if your not familiar with the website.
They do their best to provide what they can to help members to navigate the forum (as seen by the various options above) and, though it's not perfect but, they do care about the feedback and take them all under consideration for any/all future improvements, enhancements, etc... to make the forum as member friendly as possible.
In addition... Remember that the Administrators & Moderators (Even the Recognized Contributors, Developers, etc...) are all here to help members with any questions or concerns regarding the forum.
Maybe @MikeChannon can provide any additional information, assistance, advice, etc... that I may have overlooked myself with the above information.
I do wish you the Best of Luck!
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That "compact" list is a very good example. It takes minutes to load, because every single device is not only listed but every sub-forum of every single device.
Even closing that page takes 15 seconds.
The search does not give me a page with a manufacturer. Only single devices.
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That "compact" list is a very good example. It takes minutes to load, because every single device is not only listed but every sub-forum of every single device.
Even closing that page takes 15 seconds.
The search does not give me a page with a manufacturer. Only single devices.
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The compact list doesn't show sub forums and shouldn't take more than 1 or 2 seconds to load:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/compact
If it's taking minutes to load that abbreviated page then there must be a connection problem between you and our servers.
Other pages can take longer to load but none sould be more than a few seconds. We run an old version of vBulletin, servers are very expensive and we have several thousands on line simultaneously. More servers and a newer forum software would help but all that costs money and we aren't super rich!
Updating from vBulletin would be very nice, but we're caught in a bit of a trap because we have customised so much of what we do here that tranitioning to a new format (even just a new version of vBulletin) would take many many hours of work and testing. Some argue we could just archive much of what we have but then again there are still people who post in forums for 10 year old devices.
Mike
This is going to be a moaning post, which falls in line with the topics of discussion in the forum description.
Like many of you most likely, I've been lurking, contributing if it makes sense, and relying on XDA for a long time. It feels like a decade by now. This is the most frustrated I've ever been with the Search functionality of the website. It's so bad, I'm writing this post, but also I feel like competing sites (there are none in reality) could lure forum users away with nothing more than an intuitive, easy to use search functionality.
For example, every single time you go to search something, XDA for some reason defaults to searching Everything. If I'm in a specific forum, and sought out that forum (which is the only way to get to something that you specifically need given the search won't produce it), why would I need to search the entire site seconds after entering that particular forum. I have not found a setting to allow me to set the default search to search specific forum and recall the previous site iteration as having the ability to easily within a click or two, search the forum itself for a specific thread.
Secondly, searching for items that have more than a single word is pointless. The query results are from all over the site, and largely not related. Additionally, the search results apparently don't believe in offering sort or filter capabilities post submission of a search query.
Third, do you really not follow a boolean logic? Taking the aforementioned example, if I use double quotes to signify a specific string or phrase, the query result is blank.
I'm going to keep adding to this because later because I need to go, but I loved this site, and I want to ensure this feedback is out there. Please for the love of god, do something about this.
Unfortunately, I tried to search for the ability to provide feedback directly and was unable to come up with anything. I shouldn't have to build a Google CSE or run a 'site:' search to produce a specific result on this website.
Just a couple of years ago, I could come into the site, enter a model number or SKU or something specific like that and immediately be able to access specific forums or threads. I just tried to search for SM-990 and nothing but Motorola results were produced. What?