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[Q] S-off questions

I have been planning to s-off my desire for weeks now, i have some questions just in case i dont brick my phone.
1. i am using coolsense hd v10 rom, is it ok to s-off? or do i need the stock rom
2. if i nid the stock rom, can i just flash the ruu and root again, then s-off
3. can i s-off using alpharev via vmware
4. how to prevent alpharev from changing my splash screen
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.05.30.2
AUG 10 2010,17:52:10

Are you serious?

what u mean

It doesn't matter, which rom you are using. I used the CD-method to S-Off my Desire, but I think it should also work using vmware.
You can't prevent alpharev from changing your splash screen, but there are tools in this forum, which allow you to change it to whatever you want afterwards.
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You can change the splash screen with Android Flasher - It can be found in the Developement sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
If you need a stock ROM, then you can either flash the RUU (You lose Root, S-Off) or flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (can be found in the Developement sub-forum).
S-Off via VMWare can be done, but if you are stuck use the USB or CD method instead (people reported issues with VMWare).

dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked

I had problems with s-off on my stock sense rom (rooted).
I made a goldcard, rooted, then alpharev would not recognise my device.
Soon as I switched to rooted aosp rom (oxygen) it was fine!

dzumagos said:
dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked
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Just flash stock rooted froyo, done the trick for me.
OP, just search for how to s-off, there are answers to all you questions available. I know that, as i only recently s-offed myself.

So, can i do this?
1. do nandroid backup
2. use froyo asia wwe ruu(im from singapore)
3. root with unrevoked
4. s-off with vmware
5. restore
But err, one question, if i was damn unlucky and brick my device, can i just use the RUU and restore it back?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069600
Just follow the guide on the thread. If you brick your device, there is no way back. That's why its called brick. There are semi bricks, which can be fixed.
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hi my HTC Desire says PVT1 S-OFF already
this make any difference between AlphaRev S-off?? or i need to go through this method also??

Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).

Maikoru said:
Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).
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Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...

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2020shyboy said:
Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...
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pvt-4 desires try to activate bluetooth after alpharev 1.8 if it doesnt activate pm me

Revolutionary on Desire

Has anyone S-OFFd with Revolutionary yet?
I just did my phone which worked fine, but it bombed out when i said 'yes' to download recovery image.

I did my phone and another with AlpharevX which I'm pretty sure was almost exactly the same thing, but with fewer supported handsets.

S-OFF'd day of released without any hiccups, I opted out of flashing CWM.

quick question as i don't want to start a new thread.
phone is now rooted and has cwm 3.0.0.5, does it need to be flashed back to stock in order to run revolutionary?
hboot is 093 which is required for the desire if i remember correctly

Par4 said:
quick question as i don't want to start a new thread.
phone is now rooted and has cwm 3.0.0.5, does it need to be flashed back to stock in order to run revolutionary?
hboot is 093 which is required for the desire if i remember correctly
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You just need stock rooted rom (no a2sd, d2ext)

Yeah I also just used revolutionary, works great and gave me no fuss.

Also s-off'edwith revolutionary, was done in less than a minute.
(it was so fast i had to check twice before i was certain it was s-off )
already had a recovery so i skipped that one.

What's the best thing to do if your device has an older HBOOT? I'm at 0.75 I think! Should I use AlphaRev, or upgrade to a more recent RUU to update the HBOOT?

Currently I'm S-OFF using Alpharev 1.8. What is the advantage of Revolutionary on the Desire? Support for the GB update?

you dont have to s-off again with revolutionary when you are already s-off.

[Q] Applying S-off via alpharev on a rooted phone with CM7

Hi, I've been having some problems with my Htc Desire (Running Hboot 0.80, rooted & CM7). A couple of months ago Super User needed an update and required S-off. I didn't feel like doing that at the time, but after a while and a updated clockworkmod the phone locks up when i try to backup my current Rom.
So now I'm considering S-offing my phone and I was just wondering if i can use alpharev on my current Hboot considering that i'm running CM 7.03? '
Most guides use some kind of stock-Rom so i just wanted to check in advance rather then being sorry later.

It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.

bortak said:
It's just a matter of having a non A2SD/D2SD ROM, so it's safer to return to a stock ROM (You should have made a backup of it after rooting), you can try it on CM and you never know it might work.
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Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.

Stennan said:
Sure, I've got an old Leedroid and Htc original 2.2 so I'll pop the 2.2 back on and after the S-off is completed I can simply restore a older CM7 backup? It's a shame that the Super user needed S-off.
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yeah just do that, I don't see why it needs S-OFF though :s Either way it's better to have it than not :thumbsup:

[Q] upgrading from froyo, already s-off but no root

My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks

AbuYahya said:
My wife's desire HD which is still running the original stock froyo and stock. about 18m ago I remember making it S-off and super-CID (remove simlock) I unrooted it made a backup. and then removed just the root so my wife didn't inadvertantly mess it up.
It now got problems with battery drain I suspect the programs are conflicting with the old froyo rom. As such I want to upgrade it to ICS.
I can enter the clockworkMod recovery v2.5.1.3.
Can I just install zip through recovery, or do I need to unroot? if so how best to root.
Also the bootloaders for ICS do they get installed with the ROM or do I need to prep it with a pre-install? if so where do I get it from?
I search for any wiki guides but could not find the answers.
thanks
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If you are still S-OFF as u say u are, just download the Superuser App from the play store, update binary in the app options and then reboot. You should be rooted then. If you update to GB never flash a froyo RUU again...you will mess the bootloader and that seems to be trendy!! :good:

S-Off / Partition Ext SD Etc

Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve

would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?

Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.

I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve

steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.

Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.

That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink

Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765

My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?

It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.

NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?

steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
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Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help