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I recently dismantled my BA to work on the LCD. I originally thought it would be necessary to disconnect the keyboard ribbon from the main board, so I removed the tape and black clip from the surface mount connector. However, it turned out I could leave the ribbon in place, so I didn't remove it.
After reassembly, only a few of the keyboard keys now work, and the blue LEDs no longer work at all.
I was careful not to force or twist the ribbon at all as I worked, so I don't think it's damaged, but I haven't been able to make the black clip go back on properly. I suspect this is the problem. I have tried to reseat the clip but without success and the keyboard is still the same.
Can someone please explain the role of this black clip and tape, and their relevance to the electrical connection. And can anyone direct me to a 1000x magnified picture of how the clip is supposed to fit!
Thanks in advance...
Hi there,
I had a similar problem when dissasembling one of my PPC6600 phones. The ribbon is quite dellicate, and I wound up ripping the outer conductor (it is the thicker one, and it happens to power the backlight LED's). Needless to say, I had to use a very fine tip soldering iron and some hair-fine wire to fix the mess. When I got my hands on a scrap one from EBAY (for like, 75 bucks because the ESN was locked out), I pulled the keyboard from it and replaced my hack.
Also, I have added to the WIKI a procedure to take apart the BA. I think you can find that HERE -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DIS_BA_PICS
Check out the one pic that is big that shows you how to flip up the clip.
The connector you are talking about has a little black (brown?) clip that flips up 90 degrees to allow the ribbon to come out. If you didn't flip it up, you might have been able to remove the ribbon, but tough luck getting it back in. You can stick your fingernail in there where the ribbon goes, and lift up on the clip. It should pop up ad remain connected quite easily. Also, when you re-insert the ribbon, you want to make sure that the two protruding tabs on the ribbon 'seat' fully against the connector before you push the clip back down onto the ribbon.
Have fun!
When I did the work I had already seen your exellent pics (thanks ) and my black clip came right off when I lifted it. So my problem is getting the black clip back on, so that it can be flipped up and down normally again. At no time did I try to remove the ribbon so I don't think it's damaged - but I'm wondering if the black clip needs to go back properly before the electrical connection is good again.
PS to anyone dismantling BA - remember to remove both the SIM and the SD card/blank, as these both jam the cover and prevent removal - shame if someone missed this and snapped something . (I tried to add this info to the page with pics but the Edit button wouldn't let me do it - gives a "page not found" error.)
Hi again,
My phone doesn't have a SIM card (is this a European thing or are there some carriers in USA that use SIM cards?)
Anyhow, I think I remember dealing with connectors like these before and having that clip pop off. There are two little tabs on the clip that have little round buttons on each side of the clip tabs, and these buttons prodtrude off the sides of the clip. They match a slot on the connector part that is surface mounted to your mainboard. So, you have to align the clip properly so that these protruding bumps 'pop' back into the white housing on both sides. Now, if these tabs broke off.... then I guess you're outa luck, unless I guess you find some very thin plastic that you can shove in on-top of the ribbon (underneath the part of the housing where the clip SHOULD have gone), so that it pushes the exposed conductors of the ribbon down onto the connector.
Hope this helps!
Many thanks, this helps a lot by confirming (a) how the clip fits and (b) its role in the electrical connection. This information is much appreciated as it gives me a fighting chance when I next have a go at fixing the thing!
How do you get by without SIMs? Does that mean a phone is forever tied to the one provider and phone number?
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My phone doesn't have a SIM card (is this a European thing or are there some carriers in USA that use SIM cards?)
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It's a GSM thing. GSM phones (like the PDA2K or SX66) use SIM cards, CDMA phones (like the PPC6600) don't.
I'm OK with taking things apart and putting them back together. Are there screen shots of someone taking the Blue Angel apart and fixing the stylus clip?
Please post
or even a video clip?
DIY Blueangle fix
Hi,
I had been using HTC BlueAngle for almost 2 years and very happy with it.
When I first got it, I dropped it the next day. The stylus holding clip was broken off. At first I tried to put tapes around the stylus to hold it in place.
It didn't work out at the end and I opened it up and put a piece of foam in the stylus tube to add fiction and avoid it fall out. I worked nicely.
I still love my BA even I am using HTC Universal most of the time.
Cheers
I have the same problem. Nice tip, thanks, I'll consider it too.
u dont have to do all that, the main reason it becomes loose is the bit of plastic that is attached to the frame gets weak... just open the back with the specialist screwdrivers which can be bought off ebay for nomore than £5 and either superglue it back into the correct place or just rest something like paper to make the plastic bit stick out a bit more so that the stylus gets a tighter fit....
go for the quick fix...just stick a 3mm width masking tape on the top part of the stylus and it is good to go. adjust the width of the tape according to how tight you want your stylus to be in place. HTH
Here you go guys! ^_^
http://www.stealthguards.com/index.php/
UPDATE WITH INSTRUCTIONS! Posted by akastixx (Thanks dude! )
What you will need:
**A razor or an exacto knife (or a thin sewing needle or safety pin if you're a Nancy)
**Clean hands (wash that damn cheeto grease off your hands, tard!)
**Clean Evo (easy way to clean it is one tiny windex/all purpose cleaner shot to the middle of the screen. Don't even spray, just make it dribble 4-5 drops. try it on your counter before you try it on your PRECIOUS, precious.)
**A plate, saucer, or the top to a plastic container.
**No alcohol or perception altering substance in you (this is not rocket science, but you have to stay sharp to successfully complete this mission!)
**A small amount of dish soap, hand soap or detergent.
**A cup of water.
**Time. You will not get great results if you do everything at once. You can probably get away with doing this in three parts, but I'd recommend four. You'll see why later. You should also do this when you feel you won't need to make or take a call or use your phone. This will take a couple of hours.
**Optional - a cutting board and florescent lighting (it's harder to see the shapes in "yellow" light)
Part 1 (The back):
** We will start with the back. The good thing about the back cover is that there is less unnecessary protector to fight with. Clean your hands and your Evo.
**pour about as much as water you could imagine the cupped palm of your hand could hold 3-4 times on your saucer.
**Squirt about 6 drops of dish liquid into the water stir it with your finger, then dry your finger.
**Place the Evo face down on a flat surface.
**Take the back protector. Place that on a flat surface. Pick one of the three holes at the top (speaker, camera or flash) and hold it down with the tip of your blade near the top of that hole. you don't need to cut anything. with your other hand peel the protector from the top slowly.
**There will be some resistance, and it will feel like you might tear your protector but if you pull slowly, the circle should stay there.
**Put the protector back and repeat with the other circles.
**You should now have your protector halfway peeled, and the 3 circles attached to the paper, or at least not attached to the protector.
**There are two ovals on the bottom half. You will need to place your blade between the oval for the kickstand, and the protector. Your blade needs to be in that outer oval that surrounds the kickstand.
**Peel the remaining half of the protector off. Be careful not to damage the material for the kick stand.
**You should now have the back protector (minus the kickstand) off. If you got a fingerprint or two on it, it's ok, but try not to touch anything besides the corner.
**While holding a corner of the protector (with the hand you don't write with) dip it in your soap water mix sticky side down. Hold up the protector. There should be some excess water at the bottom. The corner where your fingers are should be dry, so hold the protector with your writing hand, use the excess water to wet the dry spot, and slide the protector on the plate to remove any other excess. there should just be a film of water, not any water about to drip off.
**Note --- if you have to stop at any point with protector that's already peeled, place it halfway on/halfway off your plate so you don't lose it.
**Place your protector on the back part of the Evo. For best results, you should touch the the Evo with opposite bottom corner of the protector and slowly place the rest on. (if you're holding the protector in your right hand on the right corner of the protector, lay it on the Evo bottom left first.) You will have a couple of minutes to adjust it, so take your time. If you did this correctly, you should have no air bubbles, but if you do, gently smooth them out.
**Once the back is secure, you can start on the kickstand.
**The kickstand may be a little harder to remove. if there is a spot where you can gently slip your blade in to start peeling it off the paper, go for it. Hold the blade down on the part you don't need like you did before to pull the kickstand off. If not, you will need that cutting board or something underneath the paper that you don't mind having a razor cut on.
**Using the blade, touch one of the straight edges of the oval. Turn your blade so that if you were to make a cut, it would start at that edge, but end AWAY from the oval, not into it. Make your cut. You only need a tiny cut, just enough to slide your blade underneath so you can peel like I described one step ago. If you are using a needle, poke a hole on the outside of the edge as close as you can.
**Once the kickstand is peeled, wet it and place it. it is not a perfect fit. Place it an equal distance from all sides or however you'd like, and you are good to go.
**Now you will need to leave your phone alone for at least an hour. DO NOT TOUCH YOUR PHONE FOR AN HOUR, NIMROD. Don't go celebrating with a drink, either.
Part 2 (Front):
Ok, on to the front.
**Using your blade (or your needle), touch one of the long edges of the front protector and poke or cut like I described before. Make sure you are slow and careful. You do not want to cut into your side protector pieces.
**Wiggle your blade in and pry the front up like before.
**Dip and place your protector like before (slowly, opposite end first).
**This time, you will need to wait at least an hour and a half to two hours. The material on the front is different, and it takes longer to stick.
Part 3-4 (Sides):
Last up is the sides, the hardest part. If you notice the picture above, it has all the side pieces except for one. if you look at your actual paper, the missing piece is above the rest of them. you will put this piece on last.
First I will tell you where the pieces go, then I'll let you know how to put them on.
*Top piece - It will start from the edge of the power button, and slightly wrap around the the left side of the phone (if the screen is facing you).
*Top left side piece - it will continue where the top piece left off, covering most of the left side of the phone.
*Bottom left side piece - as the name suggests, it will continue from the last piece and stop at the USB icon.
*Right piece - the skinny part will start at the HDMI logo, and come up most of the right side of the phone, stopping short of the volume button.
*Mystery piece - it goes on the right top corner between the volume and power button.
Part 3 (Left Side):
**Remove, dip and place the top piece. You will place it on the phone in the same direction you peeled it off the phone, or the same way it shows in the picture above. My method of getting these suckers on right was this. Whether you are right handed or left handed, place the piece on the top. It doesn't need to wrap around yet, just make sure it's on there. Grab the bottom half phone with your right hand with the screen facing your palm. Look at the piece you put on. Gently adjust it with your left thumb. Once it is in place, you'll need to put the phone down, screen side up, but the top of the phone facing you. Cover the phone with your left hand and firmly place your thumb on the top piece, but be careful not to move it. Use your right thumb to smooth it around the corner.
**Note - if any of your pieces dry out, just put more soapy water on it. Just don't let it dry out too many times.
**Now you will notice the piece doesn't want to go on straight, and a air bubble will form at the corner. To fix that, first take your left thumb off the phone and make sure the top part is still in place. If it is not, adjust it. Place your thumb there again and gently smooth the bubble at the corner out first with your right thumb. It may try to come back, but smooth it out gently, the same way you gently wiped away the tear of a pansy iphone user when they saw your phone. Once the bubble is out, gently adjust the rest of the piece into place. If the bubble comes back, repeat the process - rub the bubble out, and adjust the rest. If you accidentally mess up the top, you are a failure at life. Start again.
**You may not get this on right before it starts drying out. if you don't, just re-wet the piece and start over.
**Once your top piece is on, remove, dip and place the left piece. This is easy. Just make sure it starts right where the last piece left off with no space in between. Be careful not to mess up the top.
**Sit the phone down for 20-30 minutes and let it dry.
Part 4 (The rest):
**Place the bottom left side piece on like you placed the top piece - hold it down with your left, rub the bubble out with your right, adjust the rest.
**You will place the right side piece the opposite way. Place the fat part of it right by the volume button, and once you have it on, secure it with your right thumb and smooth the bubble with your left, then adjust the rest. Be careful not to mess up your other pieces in the process.
**At this point, you should probably dry your phone out again, but if you're brave, slap on that final mystery piece. It doesn't matter what had you use to hold or smooth at this point, just get that piece on!
boo 2.85 shipping
Servers are el' crasho.
i jumped all over this, and went back for my wifes moment. Servers are crashing, but after a few page reloads, I was able to get it done.
Illinois = $2.85 shipping also. Guess that's how they are making their money....shouldn't cost more than a 1st class stamp...just like eBay...they profit from shipping...make you think your getting a deal. Not that this is a bad price for a full set but maybe 2 sets id order...
I don't know if the servers crashed but when you go to enter the expiration date of your credit card, the year field is so smushed that it cannot be displayed on the screen. My debit card wouldn't verify, so I used my credit card.
VERY slow server.
Nice find, I just ordered one.
sweet, i think imna order another after the free offer is over just to support them.
Just bought a carbon fiber phantom skinz 2 days ago and saw this and bought it. I'm good on covers for now hahaha. GOOD FIND!
+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
@sprink- Dude, their not making *any* money from this or shipping (ok, they will have positive income considering it doesn't cost 2.85 to send one but it's not a significant amount). Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them; people will remember their the one's that gave away free covers. And after that, people will just return to them or refer other's to them when they need more covers.
edtate said:
+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
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pretty sure they are relatively new, they still offering free protectors for the palm pre or htc hero. its $3, cant really go wrong with that price, but the normal $15 is still a bargin compared to $30 for invisoshield or $20 for ghost armor.
edtate said:
Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them
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i just hope their bandwidth improves.. the website won't load
+1
Thanx just ordered 2, paid $4.88 for shipping only.
Well worth the price.
@shift_ Refresh CONSTANTLY
Alright, here's a review I found originally posted by bjbarr on sprintusers.com since I couldn't find any anywhere:
Here is my review:
the front and back skin fit pretty good. the cutout around the kickstand at the bottom is a tad too big but doesn't show to a point that it will be a problem.
the one thing I haven't figured out is the cutouts for the sides. They just don't seem right to me as the one I think is for the volume buttons doesn't really cover the whole side, in other words there is no cutout for the volume buttons. And I haven't figured out the one for the bottom around the mic.
I guess I just won't put anything there and same goes for the sides. I jsut may go ahead and order from BSE and give them a try as I have always been pleased with their skins but like yellotootr said that they probably all come from the same manufacturer and I am leaning toward that same thought, especially the cheaper ones anyway.
Which ever sensor that is to the right of the phone has no cutout but to the left of the earpeice has a cutout and for what??? Makes no sense but I am beginning to think that these skins are for another phone but can be used for the Evo but I haven't been looking to see what other phone they may fit.
They were easy to install though, but I don't think I got all the air bubbles out of the back skin but sometimes they just disappear over night. Guess I will find out tomorrow but I probably won't replace it just for that. It does disturb me that the corners and sides aren't protected because it seems those are the places that get scuffed the most.
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Ordered
10char
In on this one. I have that too good to be true feeling. We'll see.
edtate said:
+1 Great find man.
Even though I just ordered one, how good are the cases lol? Anybody have any prior experience with them?
@sprink- Dude, their not making *any* money from this or shipping (ok, they will have positive income considering it doesn't cost 2.85 to send one but it's not a significant amount). Their going to make money by the increased publicity this will give them; people will remember their the one's that gave away free covers. And after that, people will just return to them or refer other's to them when they need more covers.
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you are right.... I just hate inflated shipping prices. Just wish these companies would charge actual shipping costs that's all. And yes word of mouth goes a long way.. also though sometimes companies get defective stuff in bulk at little or no cost to them and can't really sell them so they give them away and make money on the inflated shipping that won't be refunded.
ordered also! great find!
thanks for the link; order 4 total (2 evos and 2 blackberries); they also have lifetime warranty so that's a plus
ty. got 2 evo guards and 2 ipod guards for ~10 shipped.
I recently picked up a cheap, generic lanyard for use with the Note and have found that it completely changed the way I hold and use the phone. It makes holding the phone a lot more comfortable and allows for full single hand usage of the phone. Also, I have done some drop tests and it pretty much drop-proofs the phone (linked below is a video of a drop test I did). I HIGHLY recommend getting one of these, if only for the increased flexibility it gives you when using it single-handed.
How it Helps Single-Handed Use
Because the lanyard I got has a clip on it I am able to detach the lanyard part of it and just have a little “tail” of sorts on the phone. I almost always have this tucked between my middle and ring finger when holding the phone, as it allows me to comfortably hold the phone without needed to support it from the bottom of the phone with a finger. It is hard to explain, so I took a video of it (linked below). This manner of holding the phone means that the ONLY part of the hand that needs touch the phone is the middle and ring fingers on the center of the back plate of the phone. The traction from the skin on the back plate keeps it from moving left/right, gravity keeps it from moving up, and the string connecting the bottom of the back plate to the tips of my middle/ring fingers keeps it from falling. It basically feels like the phone is floating in your hand when holding it like this. It allows you not only to comfortably hold it and use your thumb, but use both your thumb and index finger for zooming and panning as well! And, if you tilt the phone in your hand, you can reach ANY part of the screen with your thumb. You can manipulate the phone however you like, by doing this, without fear of dropping it because the string is firmly between the two fingers.
(This video is in HD so you can press the 720P button and make it fullscreen to see more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ32JT3Uk8
Drop-Proofing
The video shows it the best but you can drop the phone however you want and it will be caught by the lanyard every time. The back plate is fit so securely into the phone that it does not budge, not a single clip of the back plate has come undone in any of my tests (and in one of my tests I flung it around in a circle on the end of the lanyard). Quite amazing really, defeats the need for an OtterBox for me.
(This video is in HD so you can press the 720P button and make it fullscreen to see more)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXFOAuDcmRU
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A+ for creativity.
Hey, watched your vids. How are you using this 1 handed? It looks like you've somehow got the thick part of the lanyard up close to the phone in that video...
nice work.
By the way, did you hurt your finger doing this mod ?
copualt3: Thanks!
gerizafa:
Hopefully the linked photo below illustrates it more clearly. I simply tuck the lanyard attachment between my middle and ring finger and it holds the phone.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h260/piranha_pilot/IMG_0988.jpg
blobotorian:
Thanks! And lol no I didn't, I accidentally cut myself while absent-mindedly taking knives out of the dishwasher.
would it **** u off if the back cover fell off and ur phone smashed?
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would it **** u off if the back cover fell off and ur phone smashed?
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I too use a lanyard, but have mine attached to the flip case back (also at the speaker hole).
Firmly pulling the flap away from the lanyard, and nothing happens. It's not coming off by accident.
BTW... I have a much smaller lanyard with nice leather detailing. Without ever consciously thinking about it, I have gotten into the havit of leaving the lanyard dangling out of my pocket, and my hand subconsciously goes through the lanyard every time I take the phone out of my pocket.
I plan on using a Nillkin TPU case which has strap holes and an SGP Asturias leather handstrap on my imaginary Note. I say imaginary because it's all just an idea, I might get one, I might not. The dev community is so good for the SGS2 that I'll just miss having so many options and tweaks.
@unsinkable can u post some pictures
I did this exactly, sturdy at first but I kind of have the feeling that plastic grill will break some day.
Still better than having the whole phone break after a fall tho.
Not having included a proper lanyard hook like in SGS2 was a huge shortcoming for note designers. SGS2 had the con of an unproperly placed lanyard in the top part of the phone, but still!
I'm finding it rather difficult to get my lanyard's string through my speaker phone grill.
It is in fact hard, the typical lanyard end-cords are thicker than the space avaialble in the grill, but if you push attentively enough, or use the help of a tiny object like a de-tipped needle, to push the loop in the middle for you, it is then pretty easy to do the job.
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I'm finding it rather difficult to get my lanyard's string through my speaker phone grill.
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Hmm just remove the back plate first and then tuck it in and out?
broke mine.
My lanyard broke the little bar behind the speaker.
I personally don't think much force was used to make this happen.
It didn't break it off completely, just one side. So I pushed it back in, so that cosmetically it looks ok -but I certainly can't attach a lanyard on it again.
I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
Incidentally, does anyone know if it's possible to get a replacement back panel?
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My lanyard broke the little bar behind the speaker.
I personally don't think much force was used to make this happen.
It didn't break it off completely, just one side. So I pushed it back in, so that cosmetically it looks ok -but I certainly can't attach a lanyard on it again.
I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
Incidentally, does anyone know if it's possible to get a replacement back panel?
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Metal ones to be found on ebay
Sent from TapaTalk on my Samsung Galaxy Note
thanks for the vids . .
but seems a bit much to wear a wrist leash to carry a cell phone?. .
manhattan212 said:
I'll have to find a case/shell with a lanyard loop.
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Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
mcatt66 said:
thanks for the vids . .
but seems a bit much to wear a wrist leash to carry a cell phone?. .
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I thought so at first but it soon becomes 2nd nature (5 weeks now)
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Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
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the ringke case in the thin case thread has lanyard holes
zkyevolved said:
Please share if you do find one. I'd also be interested in a case with a lanyard loop spot!
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Nillkin has one. They're fairly easy to find on ebay. I think they have multiple colors, or something.
I picked up a Samsung brand keyboard cover for my 813 today and was very disappointed to find that the magnets in the keyboard would shut the screen off when you flip the cover over so you can hold the tablet and use it without the keyboard.
I researched but couldn't find a solution that was even remotely practical.
I figured out that if you fold the cover like I did in the picture, there's enough space between the keyboard and the tablet that it doesn't trip the magnetic switch.
The cover is still folded on a way it's designed to and doesn't feel any different when using it.
Hope this helps.
so i assume this problem is not for specific covers then, i got a 'Superfly' case+cover that works like those for the ipad ones from Apple. the cover rolls back to create a triangle stand. when i try to fold it all the way back to create a flat back, the magnetic also sleeps the tab. so the only way to use it and holding it is to roll it back and making it a stand and hold the stand itself.
very frustrating as sometimes i would like to fold the cover back and lay flat on table or on my palm but it just sleeps it.
only way to hold it on the hand is the like pic attached.
it seems like the sleep magnets are towards the left of the device, because when i close the cover half way where the right side of cover is still far from the screen, it puts it to sleep. same for the rear
sorry for thread jack though, i'm on the same boat as you
I think that the magnetic switch is near the home button.
Would it be possible to put a metallic barrier on the back of the tablet between the back flap to prevent the magnet on the front flap triggering the switch?
Metallic Plate Works!
Putting a metallic barrier actually works very well. I got a magnetic phone holder for my car which came with 2 metal plates (with adhesive) that you can stick to your phone back. I didn't need the larger one and tried it with the Tab S2 (9.7) official keyboard cover. And it worked!
The pictures show where exactly is the "sweet spot".
Update: Apparently the position outside the box reverses the effect - switches off when you remove the keyboard. The solution I found is to wedge the metal plate behind the cover just near where the cover snaps to the tablet. Works perfect!
Nougat Updates solves the auto-off bug
The auto-off problem seems to have been solved with the Nougat update. After the update when I connected the keyboard cover, the touchpad was not working. I unpaired and paired the keyboard again. Got both the keyboard and touchpad working. Then discovered that the auto-off bug is also solved when I folded it in reading mode with the keyboard in both on/off positions.