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HTC weather widget locations

Moved up from G2 to Desire yesterday and was trying to replicate how I had my G2 (and liked it). I noticed straight away that the weather widget from HTC is now limited to purely locations pre installed on the Desire.
On the G2 you could pick your "current" location where it would open google maps and you could if you wanted you zoom & scroll to your "desired" (no pun intended) location & pick virtually anywhere on the globe and use that.
Just wondering why on the updated UE with more advanced ROM I can't do this?? So my question is to those who know alot more about the backend of these apps/phones, can the location data I have created on my G2 be located easily enough and possibly moved over to my desire??
Thanks

From the manual.
If you consented to turn location service on when you were setting up your phone for the first time, you’ll see the weather of your current location right on the HTC Clock widget of your Home screen.
You can also use the Weather application to check the current weather and weather forecasts for the next four days of the week. In addition to your current location’s weather, this application also displays the weather forecasts of other cities around the globe.
If you declined to turn location service on during first-time setup of your phone, turn location service on in your phone’s settings so that you’ll be able to check your current location’s weather on the HTC Clock widget, Weather application, and the Weather widget. Press HOME > MENU, tap Settings > Location, and then select the Use wireless networks check box.

Location services are on and it works as described for the "current" location. My question was with regard to other user defined locations, which I could do with the previous version of the widget on the android OS on my G2.
This way I can check the weather say at a destination later in the day which isn't contained within the database within the handset.

Is this what you are looking for, although it sounds as though you are limited to the cities listed on the hand set.
Adding a city to the Weather screen
Add more cities to the Weather screen so you can instantly check the weather forecasts in these cities. In addition to your current location, the Weather screen can display up to 15 cities.
1.Press HOME, and then tap Weather.
2.On the Weather screen, tap +.
3.Enter the location you want to add on the text field. As you enter text, the list is filtered to show the possible locations based on the letters you entered.
4.Tap the desired city to select it.

It annoys me that they still don't let it access the weather service online and use your location from there as my location is still no there it was the same with the hero i had.

The locations you can add aren't brilliant I have admit.
I was searching for Basingstoke (someone has to) and couldnt find it until I noticed it under 'Baskingstoke' !

I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.

I emailed them over this back when i had my htc hero like 6 months ago and still no fix to this issue.

Arthur Hucksake said:
I'm in Reading and it can't find any weather data, it's because we don't have weather here see. That's what it is.
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I can get Reading OK on mine?

I have exactly the same problem, it wouldnt let me puck my own location...except the one picked by the phoneitself. For instance I live in bromley and when HTC set bromley as current location, there is no data available, however If I look for bromley myself and and add as a second location, the weather infor is available for that but the phone will not let me set that one as my current location.

sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status

I like "Jabbypants" have emailed HTC as from what I can see it is a backward step not allowing us to use the map to pinpoint locations we want to know the weather for.
Maybe if enough email we may get a response?? Or somekind soul from HTC that reads these post will put up an "unofficial fix"??
http://www.htc.com/uk/CS_Mail.aspx

cez10 said:
sometimes the current location is unavailable for some reason, however if you add another city and use exactly the same location as for current location it will work fine and then you can set it as your default weather status
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I have tried that but it did not work..

I too had an oddity with the weather widget last night.
I'm in Leeds in the UK. That's the Leeds in Yorkshire, not in Kent. The weather widget only offers one Leeds, but doesn't state which one it is.
That seemed fair enough until last night. The weather for current location (Leeds) was different from the manually added city (Leeds also). I'm talking major difference - one said snow/rain with 2 degrees and the other said sunny at 8 degrees.
I'd like to figure out which Leeds is actually the one listed for manual selection. It obviously recognises both locations as showed the different weather for them both, but only lets you choose one manually.
Dae.
Edit. It's doing it again now. Leeds(current) shows 7 degrees, sunny and tomorrow (Monday) at 12 degree high with rain. Manually added Leeds shows current 8, cloudy with tomorrow being 11 degree high with Sun!!!

Well I have had a response from HTC, directly via email and via facebook.
Basically the "pinpoint" method employed on earlier android UE's has been removed due to a lack of customer trust. People didn't believe the weather it displayed for locations.
Email conversation is below
"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding the weather widget for your new Desire.
The Google map pinpointing technique you describe is no longer available. However, you can still find your location by doing the following:
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Kind regards"
I then tried a different tack
Thanks for the reply,
though the technique you describe
- From the home screen, tap on Weather (or click menu and then Weather).
- Once in Weather, tap Menu. This will give you a keyboard so that you can type your preferred location.
is flawed in that it is limited by the locations stored in the UE's database? I can't say for instance pick "Famagusta" in Cyprus as a location I want the weather for, as the UE only brings up Limassol or Nicosia in Cyprus (2 locations for a large island). I know that is a wide of the mark example, but I spend time there, though is is the same for most European countries.
Is there any way to expand the geographic database or do we have to wait for someone to hack it, like they did on Windows Mobile based devices such as the Diamond, where we could edit the database with locations from accuweather.com
Any further info would be most welcome as it has somewhat taken the shine off my progression from handset to handset (last 5 all HTC) which seemed to offer more to the consumer and be more customer orientated in that we could personalise them.
Many thanks
"Unfortunately, there is no way to expand the database. We cannot offer support regarding 3rd party applications, such as you describe. However, you are certainly free to investigate this avenue yourself.
We will feed back to HQ with your comments, but at this time, the locations in the list are the only ones available.
Kind regards,"

I'll be keeping an eye on any developments for this because I'd like it to be able to tell me the weather in Ipsos on Corfu. As it is, Corfu island is omitted altogether.

Anyone with this problem?
My current location displays Portugal instead of Lisbon.
My HTC Hero displayed my location correctly, local city detail instead of county detail.

The weather widget really annoys me. My location is not on the list and if I tell it to current location it knows where I am but says no weather data available. I can view the weather okay on accuweather.com so it's just the widget that won't show it for some reason.

I also asked :
I cannot set MY LOCATION manually. Strange, but I live in Bucharest which is the capital of the country and the weather program from Sense UI finds the city but in the HOME screen the weather it's different (not Bucharest). So my location it is not set manually, the GPS and google settings knows that I'm in Bucharest but the weather shown in HOME Screen it's not Bucharest - instead I have (I guess) Weather for Romania (no city , only Romania). Before writing this e-mail I did some research on the net and the user manual, and I find out that My location it is taken from network settings or something like that. This is not normal and it's very annoying. All I'm asking it's a way to set my location manually or a real automatic setting for this! Romania it's quite big you know ????? Thank you and I'm expecting your answer urgent! Kind regards!
This is what they answered:
Thank you for contacting us,
Regarding the issue you're facing, kindly be informed that if you disable the automatic location settings your location will be determined from the world clock that you can set manually but you will not receive any weather updates, you can try to use another SIM card from a different operator to check if this issue will persist or not, you can also try to searching the Android Market to check if there are any 3rd party applications that might help you with this issue.

Same issue here, weather for Paris works great, but I would like to add the small village where I spend my week-ends, and I can't find it in the database...
Looks like the cities are stored in an xml file, but I don't where to find it...
-> www dot htc-touch-info dot com/en/weather/

3rd Party Live tile apps

Does anyone know or have a list of some sort of current 3rd party apps that support the live tile function? Right now I know of only one, Weatherbug. I hope that twitter and Facebook add this function.
Although I did see a WP7 commerical with a samsung focus that highlighted a Twitter app (looked like the official twitter app) that had the number of new tweets show up on the tile.....maybe its a soon to be added feature.

I think that many developers is waiting until they get a better way of managing the live tiles, with animations and such as seen in the "native" tiles.

AP Mobile news app sort of has a live tile.

Sir. Haxalot said:
I think that many developers is waiting until they get a better way of managing the live tiles, with animations and such as seen in the "native" tiles.
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Solo devs will need a lowcost/free way to provide the needed services to make a live tile. Also, it's rather new to most people, so we'll probably see more live tiles in future generations.

Has there been any other new apps with live tiles?
So far I see
Weather Bug
The Weather Channel
GReadie (doesn't work for me)
HTC HUB (doesn't work for me)
Beezz (Doesn't work for me)
Flixter

just remember though... at the time of testing each app, a few different servers are involved and one could of been down and you should try again.
for example beezz goes from your phone to MS servers to beezz, to twitter. so if one link is stuffed, live tile is gone.

App Request Gold/Silver Active Tile

Would be great to have an active tile with spot gold/silver pricing. Thx.

What are you requesting? I am moving this to general for the time being.
~~Tito~~

Thanks Tito.
Am requesting an app that allows for an active tile where on the tile is text of the price of gold and silver. Due to being an active tile means you could set it to update said price every 10 minutes, minute, 10 seconds, etc. This way the tile shows you pricing updated at user set intervales.

Where would the feed come from?

Phone Titan said:
Where would the feed come from?
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There are many feeds/sources available from the Internet.
www.kitconet.com
www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/gold.php
www.stockmaster.in/gold.html
There is a taskbar version if you need to see more code
www.kitco.com/kcastwindows/
And MANY others.
There is also a Windows Sidebar app that shows gold and silver pricing if you need to see how they integrate the feed.
So the app could hook into various feeds (or just one like the Windows Sidebar). These are generally very stable financial feeds of course.

See attached sidebar app.

[Q] Sense 3.0 weather issues / custom location

Hello everyone,
I'm using Android Revolution 6.3.2, S-Eng off a.s.o.
I am trying to add a custom weather location, but I don't know which database to edit in WPDB.zip. I tried to add the location to WP_040EHUN, WP_0407GER and WP_0409WWE so far without success, my phone won't find the new location, which is in Hungary btw. Accuweather.com shows it and all fields I added in the database seem correct, and yet nothing.
Also, does the clock/weather widget only work with current location setting? Because as soon as I disable current location, it doesn't show the weather anymore.
The Weather application still shows and updates the location even after I turn off current location, yet it doesn't show it in the list.
The News & Weather application does the same as the Clock/Weather widget (if current location is off, it doesn't show the weather, it says "no available location").
I suspect this has something to do with Sense rather then the ROM, but anyhow any help would be appreciated.
Thank you!

You are right it is a sense issue. I got fed up of the sense weather widget and now use HD widgets or Beautiful widgets. You can make both of them look almost identical to sense and the location works perfectly.

It's quite an easy edit, its the wee one. Once in the db set your lat/long, and name it whatever you want. Then in the weather app and clock, select what you named it in the db.
I'll have a search for the info, and post the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088844
Sent from The App that Time Forgot.

But the whole point of it is to tell you the weather where you are at that moment. That edit is OK if your never leave your own backyard.

FurryCup said:
But the whole point of it is to tell you the weather where you are at that moment. That edit is OK if your never leave your own backyard.
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Yeah, but what if I don't want Google to know where I am at any given time? I mean, I'm not paranoid, don't have anything to hide either and I like Android, but I'm trying to let it invade my privacy as less as possible.

[Q] Trying to match Yahoo Weather exactly

All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,

Also, i assume somewhere zooper is taking the 48 Yahoo weather conditions and mapping that down to just 16? Where / how is that done?

g8rfn said:
All,
I've been spending a bunch of time trying to get my icons to match Yahoo (using yahoo for my data as well). Ultimately I want my widget to open yahoo weather with certain clicks and I just want everything to be cohesive in look.
So far, I was able to extract all the icons from the yahoo weather apk, and i generally have them working. However, I've noticed that Yahoo actually has many more than 16 weather types. This seems to be causing me all sorts of inconsistencies in terms of what is shown on my widget versus what is shown in the app, specifically in future forecasts for the days ahead. For example, the app shows the next 6 days as scattered thunderstorms (its florida after all). But, my widget is showing them all as full thunderstorms (different icon than the app). I can somewhat "fix" this by mapping them to scattered, but that would just break the ones who truly should be mapped to thunderstorms.
The other problem I'm having is that the future days (once its past sunset) are all changing to nightime icons instead of being locked to day versions (as it is in the app).
Anyone have experience in trying to get everything consistent? Whats the best way to address it? And, is it possible to map the full list of Yahoo data instead of just 16? Perhaps I just screwed something up in my config file when i tried it? The yahoo developer page has a list of all of them, though I have no way to tell if that's actually 100% up to date either? Looks like it was posted in 2011. How can I make the day/night versions ONLY apply to my current weather, and not future? Maybe build 2 different sets of the same icons and exclude night? Seems like a lot of work, so wondering if anyone has tackled something similar.
Thanks,
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You will not be able to match Yahoo's weather states exactly with Zooper. As you already figured out, Zooper only knows 16 weather states, which is done to unify the states from different weather data providers to a single interface. The external states are mapped internally to these internal ones and this process can not be influenced from the user side.
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily

Thanks!

Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.

TheStretchedElf said:
Interesting. I didn't know zooper converted the 48 yahoo weathers to 16. What are those 16? I'm trying to do something similar to the OP but with bitmaps.
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To answer my own question, and assuming this link is up to date, the 16 weather conditions of zooper are here: http://www.zooper.org/wp/archives/1155

kwerdenker said:
As to your second question about the day/night icons: download my weather icon set here and check the included XML. It's configured to only show day/night icons for the current weather option and not the forecast variants. You should be able to transfer this to your set quite easily
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I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks

jakou said:
I am facing the same problem regarding day/night icons. I downloaded your config.xml and tried to modify my existing xml based on the info in your xml, but it seems I'm doing something wrong because when I open Zooper on my phone the app is not recognizing the modified xml.
I am attaching the icon set (including the original xml) without any modification. I would appreciate if you let me know exactly what to modify in the xml.
Thanks
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I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around

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I rather prefere if you upload your edited version so I can check it for errors and tell you what you did wrong. That way you know what to do when the next icon pack comes around
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Here's the modified xml.