Correct way to charge and use SBC kernels? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering if someone could explain the correct way to charge kernels with SBC? I have been using the Tiamat 3.3.7 kernel with CM7 and Salvage-Mod and gotten great battery life but that was using it with a extended battery as of late I have been using my Standard Battery with Sense and CM7 using a SBC kernel on both and noticed that it rapidly plummets to the mid 80s in about a half hour of music play. What I was wondering is do SBC kernels not work with stock batteries and what would be the correct method to getting a full 100% charge? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Even with skepticism (INFO), I prefer SBC and have been for a while now.
This is what works for me...try at your own risk!
With battery monitor widget (from market) menu > settings > monitoring preference > hit monitor without widget, history update rate- 1min, battery capacity (whichever size you using).
charge...
Now, at times could never to get it to this point like it states here. So what I do is when the light turns green (it isn't fully charged), from monitor hit history, you'll see positive mA's getting smaller and smaller, when it hits zero unplug. (I usually hit calibrate [app from market] at this point if its a new ROM, kernel or battery). Should be good to go. I get it sitting on 100% with a 3500 mA for 3-12 hrs depending on use.
I can't keep track of the charge like that on a non SBC kernel.

Yep, the green light and the "100%" are meaningless. But the charge milliamps will not hit zero, at least not with my extended battery. They drop to 6-8 milliamps and that is drop dead full charge idle power.

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CM7 Battery life

Currently I have cm nightly 12 on my phone with incredikernel 2/27 and having a hard time finding this amaging battery life everyone is talking about.
I have screen brightness down and disable autosync using the power control widget. I have one widget, five icons and one screen. I have smartass governor on with 128/998 settings.
I also am using an extended life China battery. It had decent life with stock sense rom + incredikernel but still was not great.
Is it the battery? Is it my settings? Am I doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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The batteries im using are 3500mah batteries i bought from ebay. I've been charging them occasionally in a wall charger.
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My guess is that it is your battery. The OEM 1300mah battery that came with the INC is probably better than that crappy no-name brand. I have the stock, used incredikernel and i was able to get almost 2 full days out of it with CM7.
EDIT: saw you have the 3500mah, most likely that is only about 75% of what is advertised. So its probably about 2700mah. How much do you use the phone throughout the day?
Not much... Thru the week it stays in my pocket with screen off.
On the weekends I check dealnews and might get in a few minutes of angry birds... But its nowhere near the claims made of 20-40 hours of moderate use.
Feels like its jumping 3% with every web page.
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I took it off the charger 5 minutes ago, down to 95% and battery usage states 72% is due to the display.
Went in there and turned off animations to see if that helps.
I also found out with clock work install awhile ago, I have an slcd screen. Im assuming they get worse battery life than amoled?
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No change .... now down to 90% and screen has been off.
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It may just be that battery is really horrible. Do you still have your stock battery. Try using that and see the life you get out of it. I just have a feeling, no reason why, but that battery you got is a real dud.
And yes the SLCD screens do use up more power than the AMOLED screens. I don't know if it's that much, I doubt it, maybe try with the stock CM7 kernel and see what kind of life you get?
Bump charging, even if it's only for 20 minutes while you shower and shave and eat breakfast, will really help your battery life all day. I find that if I don't do it I see my battery losing its charge much faster even after it loses its initial 5-10%
Back on my stock battery... turned off or uninstalled everything I can.
I usually leave it on the charger all night while I sleep...
Thinking about returning to stock to see if that helps battery.
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What are your GPS settings? Is network location on? What about wifi is it on? If so what's your sleep policy set to. Both of these settings made my batterty drop like a brick on cm7. Another note have you used spare parts to see what is consuming your battery. Is it partial wake locks or a specific app.
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GPS off
Wifi on when I use it. I've got power control widget on my home screen. Network location is off. Wifi sleep policy is default choice (off when screen off), however I don't typically leave it on.
Haven't been in spare parts but have made it to a usage graph I didn't fully understand.
The usage I see says its all the screen. 72% display.
According to spare parts usage... over last 11m wifi has most battery usage.
Only one app with partial wake and that's craigslist Notifier. Lower than android system however.
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Went back to stock cm7 kernel to see if ondemand governor is any better battery wise.
I'm still seeking this 20 hr's moderate use I keep hearing about.
Incredikernel seems to use more battery in wifi... stock is much lower.
Of course I don't know if this is fact with all the other variables.
I don't think I'm being greedy... just trying to find a setup which will afford me using my phone everyonce in awhile without living on a charger.
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!The display should be around that amount depending on how long its been running. I'm at 74% display and that with 2hr 42m of display on. It consumes the most amount of power of anything on the phone.
I've read a couple threads that cm7 has issues with the wifi sleep options and that it needs to be set to never for best battery life. At first thought it doesn't seem right be it helped me out.
In spare parts under usage stats anything jump out at you as being excessive. I doubt it but it'll let you know if an app is running to much.
Also look at the graph under setting battery if you a seeing a bunch of activity when the display is off then it could just be a lot of emails or something is syncing that we don't know about yet. If the display off and awake lines are close then you've done everything you can to Max out your battery.
At this point I suggest you try to bump charge the phone and then wipe the battery stats from cwm I was having an issue at first with cm7 n12 of my phone only charging to 94%. Maybe you are having a similar issue.
Just for comparison today was a mild day of usuage for me on the stock battery my phone has been on for 11h36m and as I said earlier a little under 3 hours of screen time. My display is around 35% brightness and I have 30% battery left. Also on a side note I'm using the incredikernel 128min and I'm under clocked to 800mhz.
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with kernel 2.6.37.2 cyanogenmod+slayer it last me 24 with moderate phone use

3500 mah battery not holding charge

Can some one help i will like to know why the extended battery is not holding its charge. When i unplug the ac charger the % drops likes 10% in matter of like 10 min with the phone off and i have auto task killer
I would recommend trying an SBC kernel. I don't know what ROM you are running, but something like SBC HTC #15 would work well. That battery needs to stay on the charger past the time it actually reads 100%. More information about your whole setup would be helpful when diagnosing issues.
The rom i am using is Xxbabiboi228xX manila carbonfiber v 2.4
In my opinion don't use Sbc. There is a thread on here about the advantages and disadvantages. I have a 3500 extended battery and I just either use stock #15 kernel or toast... there is a reason why it drops down 10%. It's normal and your battery was made that way. It's a way where your phone won't over charge. Search the thread about Sbc kernels. Hope this helps.
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So wich sbc kenels do you guys recommand for my rom
I find I get about 3 hours at 100% after removing from the charger.
Today after 5 hours I was at 95%. I know that the 3500mAh battery has internal protection, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906144 which keeps it from being over charged. Though that is no reason to fully charge it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913401
The reason to fully charge it, is that the volt meter reads 100% not 110%.
Oh yeah I use the #winning #tiger blooded SBC15. lmao - Sorry CS
is it a seido 3500mah? could also be a quality issue.
Naw is one from ebay
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Cm7 question

I am running the final cm7 rom and I am wondering if the kernel that comes with it is an sbc? Reason I ask is I am using a 3500 battery and only getting 4-6 hrs use and based on other posts it wont fully charge without sbc. If it is not an sbc any suggestions on a play nice sbc kernel?
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Its not sbc, but the Tiamat kernel is nice.
Also charge your battery up to 100%, clear battery stats, then let it died completely, and charge back up to 100%.
derekfaircloth said:
I am running the final cm7 rom and I am wondering if the kernel that comes with it is an sbc? Reason I ask is I am using a 3500 battery and only getting 4-6 hrs use and based on other posts it wont fully charge without sbc. If it is not an sbc any suggestions on a play nice sbc kernel?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917755
i have always had the latest of what they offer and have never been let down!
ive combined this kernel (with sbc) with cm7 and various themes and have always been easily able to (overnight) charge my phone and go all day with moderate usage (3500mah from ebay)
happy charging
btw, make sure you wipe battery stats, charge all the way up, discharge till it shuts down on its own and then give it 2 days for the kernel to (settle in)

[Q] Poor battery life -- halp!

I recently got into rooting and flashing at the end of last year. This site has been a great resource for how to's and learning about the ins and outs of phone hacking.
Anyways, here's the background info: rooted using Unrevoked Forever, s-off, stayed with stock ROM and kernel only using SetCPU profiles. When I was on stock software, I had unbelievable battery life. I'm a light user (~10% awake time) and rarely beat on the battery -- light calling, email, texting, Facebook, random messing around etc. Anyways, when 3.70.651.1 came out, I knew that was my chance to flash my first ROM.
I flashed SprintLovers and got decent battery life, but nothing compared to when I was running the stock ROM. I then tried almost every variation of Netarchy's non-SBC's CFS 4.3.4 kernels -- more HAVS, less and no HAVS. No dice. I've tried with and without setCPU altogether, along with and without setCPU profiles but using the smartass and conservative governor. I always set the processor to 245-998 and never overclock.
I liked myn's Warm TwoPointTwo, so I recently tried that last week. Again, I'm getting okay battery life (~1.5 days) but with the usage I'm at I'm pretty sure I should be able to get 2 days easy. So I tried flashing Netarchy's 4.3.4 non-SBC CFS kernels with the same results. I've also tried with and without setCPU, along with and without setCPU profiles. Finally, I gave up and I'm currently using Netarchy's 4.2.1 cfs havs more smartass and using setCPU.
It's definitely not related to PRI 1.90 as I'm not getting the 100% partial wake time in Spare Parts, and I know the consensus is divided as to whether or not setCPU interferes with HAVS. I know all phones are different and ROMs and kernels interact differently on an individual basis, but I would really like to stick with myn's ROM and a good kernel to max my battery life. rather than go back to the stock ROM. Any suggestions on extending my battery life before I shamefully reflash back to stock software? I always do a full data/cache/dalvik before flashing a ROM, and wipe cache/dalvik before kernels.
myn's warm TwoPointTwo RLS5
netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-cfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass
PRI and NV 1.90
setCPU 245-998 conservative
setCPU profiles:
temp >50*C = 245-499 powersave priority 100
screen off = 245-384 conservative priority 98
charging AC = 245-998 smartass priority 96
charging USB = 245-998 smartass priority 94
Try recalibrating the battery. Charge to 100% and leave it on the charger a little longer. Then turn the phone off and boot into recovery. In recovery wipe battery stats - in Amon Ra it's under the wipe menu. Boot back up & use the phone normally until the battery drains completely, without charging the phone at all. Some people say until the phone turns off on its own, but I'd try to avoid that. Just get it as low as you can. Then once it's dead, charge it fully without breaking the charge until it's completely full. You should see an increase in life after that. There's also an app in the market that clears your battery stats. I believe it's called "Battery Calibration", but I could be wrong about the name.
Since you don't use your phone much you'd be a good candidate for undervolting. If you don't want to undervolt while the phone is in use, just use a screen off profile only. Turning radios off while you don't have a signal or you aren't using them will make a huge difference as well. Let us know how it goes
plainjane said:
Try recalibrating the battery. Charge to 100% and leave it on the charger a little longer. Then turn the phone off and boot into recovery. In recovery wipe battery stats - in Amon Ra it's under the wipe menu. Boot back up & use the phone normally until the battery drains completely, without charging the phone at all. Some people say until the phone turns off on its own, but I'd try to avoid that. Just get it as low as you can. Then once it's dead, charge it fully without breaking the charge until it's completely full. You should see an increase in life after that. There's also an app in the market that clears your battery stats. I believe it's called "Battery Calibration", but I could be wrong about the name.
Since you don't use your phone much you'd be a good candidate for undervolting. If you don't want to undervolt while the phone is in use, just use a screen off profile only. Turning radios off while you don't have a signal or you aren't using them will make a huge difference as well. Let us know how it goes
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I've heard people recommending a battery calibration after flashing a new ROM. My battery has seemed to be jumping down a few %ages and then stabilizing for long periods of time at a single level. Perhaps this is what I'm missing. I'll give it a try tonight when I recharge and see if that helps. I may try undervolting, but seeing as I got great usage on the stock ROM with the same CPU range I'd like to stick with 248-998. I always have a screen off profile though (as noted in my first post). I've also heard about people shutting off radios and such but I don't think I'd want to take it to that extreme -- maybe if I get desperate enough to eek out that much juice I'll give it a shot.
Bonus: to alleviate my problems at home since I have terrible reception and I know that eats the battery, Sprint is shipping me an Airave free of charge! In the process of trying to contact Sprint's CS (*2 on the dialer), the phone was force closing *1 and *3 work fine, as does normally dialing so I guess the problem is only limited to *2 (I even rebooted and am too lazy to reflash just because I can't speed dial a number I rarely call). Hopefully with your suggestion, I can get back to insane battery life
Don't know if this will help you out at all, but here's my setup...
myn's Warm TwoPointTwo (RLS5)
Net's toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-more-sbc
Launcher Pro Plus
SetCPU:
Screen Off: 128 max, 128 min conservative
Battery<101%: 499 max, 128 min conservative
MinFreeManager:
Set to Aggressive
Twitter, Flikr, and assorted useless (to me anyway) apps frozen with Titanium Backup
Unplugged at 0700 and as of 2205, my Seidio extended 3500 battery is STILL at 74%
Average usage day, with tons of emails, and SMS/MMS messages. About 2 hours of web surfing and 3 hours of Pandora, but not a lot of phone calls today though. About 7 hours spent on WiFi, the rest on 3G (No reliable/stable 4G near me yet).
Background data off
Auto-sync off
Enable always-on mobile data off
I have noticed this is the best battery kernel I have tried out of all of Netarchy's (ymmv). I've had this kernel for 2 weeks, and getting 2 days out of it with HEAVY usage is no problem. I only lost 4% of the battery from 2300 last night to 0700 this morning with the phone sitting on my nightstand.
It seemed to not last as long at first until I wiped battery data and started from scratch. Always a good idea to wipe battery data when swapping ROM's and kernels I notice. Also read (here, of course) that new kernels have a "break in" time of a few charging cycles until they settle in.
Overall:
Completely satisfied with this setup. ROM is lightning fast, and battery is a non-issue with this kernel. Only ever so slightly laggy when opening Handcent or galleries (when I add pics and albums have to rebuild the thumbnails), but what the hell, it's only running 499mHz! Even fired up Avatar from my SD to check for stuttering, clipping, or audio lag. There were none!
Jack
OH!!!
Almost forgot!
I stumbled across this "trick" a while ago. Not sure if it ACTUALLY works, but at least to me it does.
It's called "Super Charging" your battery.
Charge with phone on until green light signifying charging is complete comes on
Disconnect charger
Shut off phone
Reconnect charger
Amber charging light will come
When amber changes to green, disconnect charger
When Green shuts off, reconnect charger.
Repeat process
I was bored this weekend, and did it for 4 hours continuously. Yeah, that is truly bored!
I had charged it so much that upon disconnecting the charger, waiting for the green light to go off, then reconnecting the charger, there was NO amber light. Straight to green. Tried it a few more times, with the same result.
Did it actually "supercharge" the battery? Who knows?
Did it take 3 1/2 days of use to break the 25% remaining mark? Yes it did!
So if you are bored, I mean CRAZY bored, what the hell! Give it a shot...
zx7rou812 said:
OH!!!
Almost forgot!
I stumbled across this "trick" a while ago. Not sure if it ACTUALLY works, but at least to me it does.
It's called "Super Charging" your battery.
Charge with phone on until green light signifying charging is complete comes on
Disconnect charger
Shut off phone
Reconnect charger
Amber charging light will come
When amber changes to green, disconnect charger
When Green shuts off, reconnect charger.
Repeat process
I was bored this weekend, and did it for 4 hours continuously. Yeah, that is truly bored!
I had charged it so much that upon disconnecting the charger, waiting for the green light to go off, then reconnecting the charger, there was NO amber light. Straight to green. Tried it a few more times, with the same result.
Did it actually "supercharge" the battery? Who knows?
Did it take 3 1/2 days of use to break the 25% remaining mark? Yes it did!
So if you are bored, I mean CRAZY bored, what the hell! Give it a shot...
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I always wondered if you did that enough, would it eventually get to the point that the light went right to green
zx7rou812 said:
Don't know if this will help you out at all, but here's my setup...
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Thanks, but not willing to step into the realm of SBC kernels. However, I will try to go through a few charging cycles to see if my current NA kernel just needs to get broken in. I've also tried the charging method you stated above and while I did get good results, I'm unsure as to whether or not this is overcharging the phone so I decided not to do it again.
Anyways, I wiped batt stats last night after getting the full charge, so still on the drain and need to recharge to 100%; will report back after I go through a few cycles of charging.
Why not an SBC?? Because it fully charges your battery closer to 100% than a non-SBC?/
And don't buy into the hype of exploding batteries. That was handful of cases, that a) were all reported in the earliest days of SBC development, none since and were never fully attributed to the SBC kernel.
Also, you people that say drain til it dies, you DO realize that HTC STRONGLY recommends NOT doing that. According to HTC, you shouldn't recharge until you get below 50%, and no, I'm not gonna go look for the links, use the search feature.
I have a good method in my signature. Give it a try.
HipKat said:
Why not an SBC?? Because it fully charges your battery closer to 100% than a non-SBC?/
And don't buy into the hype of exploding batteries. That was handful of cases, that a) were all reported in the earliest days of SBC development, none since and were never fully attributed to the SBC kernel.
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QFT
Can't argue with a battery that stays at 100% for 3+ hours then slowly drains versus unplugging it at 100%, blinking twice, and seeing 90% remaining...
HipKat said:
Why not an SBC?? Because it fully charges your battery closer to 100% than a non-SBC?/
And don't buy into the hype of exploding batteries. That was handful of cases, that a) were all reported in the earliest days of SBC development, none since and were never fully attributed to the SBC kernel.
Also, you people that say drain til it dies, you DO realize that HTC STRONGLY recommends NOT doing that. According to HTC, you shouldn't recharge until you get below 50%, and no, I'm not gonna go look for the links, use the search feature.
I have a good method in my signature. Give it a try.
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Well, I'm no developer but if Netarchy says to beware in his latest kernel thread, even if for liability reasons, then that's good enough for me to stick with non-SBC until an SBC kernel is proven to be 100% safe. I think that's a perfectly valid justification to not use SBC for now.
I keep forgetting that we're not supposed to completely drain the battery. I guess I'll recharge when I hit 5 or 10%.
I'll take a look at your thread when I get a chance.
twinsin said:
Well, I'm no developer but if Netarchy says to beware in his latest kernel thread, even if for liability reasons, then that's good enough for me to stick with non-SBC until an SBC kernel is proven to be 100% safe. I think that's a perfectly valid justification to not use SBC for now.
I keep forgetting that we're not supposed to completely drain the battery. I guess I'll recharge when I hit 5 or 10%.
I'll take a look at your thread when I get a chance.
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All threads (for the most part) say that, even ROM threads about not being liable if anything happens to your phone. Not even flashing a ROM is 100% safe but you do it anyway.
I've been using SBC since it was being tested the first time and I've never had one issue. No batteries have exploded, no chargers bursting into flames, and no phones have self-destructed.
If you want really good battery life, good performance, and want to try something other than Sense, CM7 and MIUI are really good ROMs. I would recommend Tiamat kernel (use 3.3.8 for now, 4.0.0 has some issues) and make sure to wipe batt stats and do a battery calibration. For good measure, you can try my BSM mod in my sig for even better battery life.
kings kernels are awesome!! im using one and is giving me 30 hrs!
valdovic said:
kings kernels are awesome!! im using one and is giving me 30 hrs!
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He doesn't support the EVO anymore, to my knowledge.
-viperboy- said:
All threads (for the most part) say that, even ROM threads about not being liable if anything happens to your phone. Not even flashing a ROM is 100% safe but you do it anyway.
I've been using SBC since it was being tested the first time and I've never had one issue. No batteries have exploded, no chargers bursting into flames, and no phones have self-destructed.
If you want really good battery life, good performance, and want to try something other than Sense, CM7 and MIUI are really good ROMs. I would recommend Tiamat kernel (use 3.3.8 for now, 4.0.0 has some issues) and make sure to wipe batt stats and do a battery calibration. For good measure, you can try my BSM mod in my sig for even better battery life.
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Yes, all threads use the release of liability clause, but NA specifically states in his most recent thread that SBC could potentially cause problems.
Gosh, so much peer pressure! I'm not saying I won't ever go to SBC, just when I feel like it's a bit more stable and all the kinks are worked out. Kind of like you probably shouldn't buy the first model year of a car since the chances of running into glitches is much higher than if you waited a bit for the bumps to get smoothed out. If I'm being paranoid -- well, it's all in the interest of my $200+ phone. Regardless, I appreciate all the replies.
I've heard about MIUI here and there. I guess I've stuck with Sense since that's all I've ever known, but maybe I'll start branching out to AOSP and MIUI. Does CM7 have full functionality now on the EVO?
I'm on my first recharge since wiping stats and it's the fastest recharge I've ever seen. Maybe I do need to just break the kernel in?

Defy/Defy+ Battery Stats, Endurance and Advice

Me and My Battery
A comprehensive battery stat and tweak thread​
We all love our phone.
We all measure battery life.
And we all tend to post that battery life on the CM10 DEV thread.
Not any more!
This thread will aim to reduce the battery OT load on Quarx's CM10 thread...
Post whatever battery related stuff you want to in here.
Do you use an HF5 or an HF5X??
Are you a badas* and use an HF5X on a Defy?
How long does your battery last on the latest build?
How long did it last on stock MotoBlur?
How long did it last on CM7? On CM9?
How long did it last on that month old build nobody else uses now (except for you)???
How old is your battery?
How do you charge your battery?
Via wall-mount charger or via PC USB?
When do you charge it?
Every night?
Whenever it reaches below 15%?
After fully draining it up to 0%?
What are your battery temperatures?
Do you use Juice Defender or other apps?
Please feel free to post advice on how you increase battery life on your phone.
Post battery fixes if they are needed.
In short, use THIS thread for all the nitty-gritties of battery life.
inb4 y'all.
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Seing as someones thrown their toys out of the pram on the dev forum ( it feels like walking on eggshells on here sometimes )
for me, The latter versions of CM10 have significantly shorter battery life than other roms such as cm7 and older versions of CM10.
this is across all of 3 my batterys, all of them varying in age, form as old as the phone to anout 8 months old.
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Great ideea btw had some info to share but didn't want to clog the dev thread.
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SleepyKrushna said:
Me and My Battery
A comprehensive battery stat and tweak thread​
We all love our phone.
We all measure battery life.
And we all tend to post that battery life on the CM10 DEV thread.
Not any more!
This thread will aim to reduce the battery OT load on Quarx's CM10 thread...
Post whatever battery related stuff you want to in here.
Do you use an HF5 or an HF5X??
Are you a badas* and use an HF5X on a Defy?
How long does your battery last on the latest build?
How long did it last on stock MotoBlur?
How long did it last on CM7? On CM9?
How long did it last on that month old build nobody else uses now (except for you)???
How old is your battery?
How do you charge your battery?
Via wall-mount charger or via PC USB?
When do you charge it?
Every night?
Whenever it reaches below 15%?
After fully draining it up to 0%?
What are your battery temperatures?
Do you use Juice Defender or other apps?
Please feel free to post advice on how you increase battery life on your phone.
Post battery fixes if they are needed.
In short, use THIS thread for all the nitty-gritties of battery life.
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Is this post here only for Battery under CM10 or in General??????
I have problem with BF5X High-Capacity Gold Battery 2430 mAh (for Moto MB525) under 3 and 4MS2G ROM.
It is charging Up to 81% only and I have tried out Walter`s patch But nothing.
Under Stock FROYO it charges Up to 90%.
Please, ignore/delete if the tread is only for CM10!
I think that I found the culprit.. (maybe)
- install SetVsel
- check if the values are higher than than those on bootmenu
Can some one check this?
I had VSel1 to something like [email protected] or VSel4 on [email protected] ...
But bootmenu has much lower values..
so far, so good..
nedywest71 said:
Is this post here only for Battery under CM10 or in General??????
I have problem with BF5X High-Capacity Gold Battery 2430 mAh (for Moto MB525) under 3 and 4MS2G ROM.
It is charging Up to 81% only and I have tried out Walter`s patch But nothing.
Under Stock FROYO it charges Up to 90%.
Please, ignore/delete if the tread is only for CM10!
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Hi, I am using the exact same battery as yours.
Using Quarx's new kernel in the 2nd boot version of CM10, that battery can charge normally to 100%...
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axcoro said:
I think that I found the culprit.. (maybe)
- install SetVsel
- check if the values are higher than than those on bootmenu
Can some one check this?
I had VSel1 to something like [email protected] or VSel4 on [email protected] ...
But bootmenu has much lower values..
so far, so good..
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Just to make it crystal clear, the default boot menu values are actually OVER volted.
Calculate values for your frequencies either by using this app-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815142
Or by using the formula (frequency)/20 ±2.
Use boot menu to set frequencies and voltages.
Keep 'Load all modules' OFF, and governor as Interactive.
SleepyKrushna said:
Just to make it crystal clear, the default boot menu values are actually OVER volted.
Calculate values for your frequencies either by using this app-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815142
Or by using the formula (frequency)/20 ±2.
Use boot menu to set frequencies and voltages.
Keep 'Load all modules' OFF, and governor as Interactive.
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That's the problem... in bootmenu the values are lower than those, when andoid is running!
(and yes.. I used that app )
eg:
bootmenu: vel1: 300 @ 30
runtime: vel1: 300 @ 42
and thats is odd..
axcoro said:
That's the problem... in bootmenu the values are lower than those, when andoid is running!
(and yes.. I used that app )
eg:
bootmenu: vel1: 300 @ 30
runtime: vel1: 300 @ 42
and thats is odd..
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This is on CM10 05.12?
SleepyKrushna said:
Just to make it crystal clear, the default boot menu values are actually OVER volted.
Calculate values for your frequencies either by using this app-----> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1815142
Or by using the formula (frequency)/20 ±2.
Use boot menu to set frequencies and voltages.
Keep 'Load all modules' OFF, and governor as Interactive.
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Click to collapse
I've been using SetVsel to adjust voltage. Should I be adjusting the bootmenu's instead? Why?
Cheers.
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I have BF5X ... So what does this mean in comparison to HF5(X)?
Quarx 2012.11.18
Usually charge via wall-mount since PC-USB takes longer.
Usually have to charge overnight.
With semi-regular use, It's lasted 21hrs.
Usually lasts less than that with video/music/screen on constantly.
(With 3G-on, Brightness 25-50%, subsonic running playing music, getting a few texts, and messing with some settings/desktop I lost just under 10% batt in one hour. or 1-2% usage per 10 minutes.)
I only use SetVsel:
300/17
600/32
800/42
1000/52
up_threshold: 86%
Apply @ boot: Ticked.
Limiting Vsel2 @ 10%
up_threshold to 99% @ 10%
KicknGuitar said:
I've been using SetVsel to adjust voltage. Should I be adjusting the bootmenu's instead? Why?
Cheers.
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I have BF5X ... So what does this mean in comparison to HF5(X)?
Quarx 2012.11.18
Usually charge via wall-mount since PC-USB takes longer.
Usually have to charge overnight.
With semi-regular use, It's lasted 21hrs.
Usually lasts less than that with video/music/screen on constantly.
I only use SetVsel:
Apply @ boot: Ticked.
Limiting Vsel2 @ 10%
up_threshold to 99% @ 10%
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Why?? Coz you can....
using boot menu instead of setvsel just reduces the no of apps you need to use.
Why do a patch when you can program the system itself?
Plus, auto patches at boot increase the time it takes for the phone to become usable after boot.
AFAIK, BF5X and HF5X are the same... I don't know this for sure, but someone said this some time back on the dev thread...
18.11 was a good build... I got 4.5 hrs on continuous 3G use... and about 18-20 hrs on occasional use....
2Pints said:
Seing as someones thrown their toys out of the pram on the dev forum ( it feels like walking on eggshells on here sometimes )
for me, The latter versions of CM10 have significantly shorter battery life than other roms such as cm7 and older versions of CM10.
this is across all of 3 my batterys, all of them varying in age, form as old as the phone to anout 8 months old.
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Ya, battery life is lesser and battery temperatures are higher on CM10 05.12 in my experience.
Its a bug of the latest build...
Let's wait to see what the next one does....
SleepyKrushna said:
Why?? Coz you can....
using boot menu instead of setvsel just reduces the no of apps you need to use.
Why do a patch when you can program the system itself?
Plus, auto patches at boot increase the time it takes for the phone to become usable after boot.
AFAIK, BF5X and HF5X are the same... I don't know this for sure, but someone said this some time back on the dev thread...
18.11 was a good build... I got 4.5 hrs on continuous 3G use... and about 18-20 hrs on occasional use....
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Cheers.
Any other adjustments beyond Vsels I should adjust in the Bootmenu? i.e. the 10 batt options SetVset had.
What blows my mind is the phone I had before Defy was just a QWERTY keyboard sliding cellphone... freaking 2+ days of usage! Now I can barely make it to 24hrs! AGh!
KicknGuitar said:
Cheers.
Any other adjustments beyond Vsels I should adjust in the Bootmenu? i.e. the 10 batt options SetVset had.
What blows my mind is the phone I had before Defy was just a QWERTY keyboard sliding cellphone... freaking 2+ days of usage! Now I can barely make it to 24hrs! AGh!
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You can do a lot in boot menu....
set thresholds, set CPU speed in sleep, on wakeup, etc....
its been months since i used setvsel, so I'll have to look up the options you're talking about..
Well, me and my battery are about to go our separate ways, I notice heavy drops lately, for example from 70% directly to 50%. I believe the battery is dying, so I ordered a 2400mAh battery from an amazon.co.uk reseller. My current battery is an BF5X original, nearing the 2 years mark now. I charged once every 2 days when in CM7, but often every day after heavy usage. With CM10 I have to charge every day, it drains more.
ccav2000 said:
Well, me and my battery are about to go our separate ways, I notice heavy drops lately, for example from 70% directly to 50%. I believe the battery is dying, so I ordered a 2400mAh battery from an amazon.co.uk reseller. My current battery is an BF5X original, nearing the 2 years mark now. I charged once every 2 days when in CM7, but often every day after heavy usage. With CM10 I have to charge every day, it drains more.
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I'm a real heavy user.... most of the time my phone is plugged in, coz with the loads I put on the 3G antenna and on the processor, I only get 4-4.5 hours of use....
Pasting this here for safekeeping from main dev thread:
Suspend - no1 power consumer.
I second that. Using the same tools like GSAM Pro + ROM Toolbox and Android Toolbox from 3C, i managed to isolate the same process. Underneath it all this "suspend" belongs to the kernel and from a more detailed report it is allways accompanied by "loop#" processes. In my case, kernel and its processes is the no1 consumer, all the time.
The second consumer is Android System, mostly due to atmospheric sensors (i had no ideea the Defy+ has anything like this..probabily because it doesn't  but the processes are there anyway)
Even like that i get at least 30hrs between charges, permanently having wifi or 2G on.. .
My HF5X battery is 1yo(came with the phone) and is being charged with no concern whatsoever about preserving it's life ...so yeah, random times and random sources (pc or wall plug, even used my e-cigar ac adapter).
What i did so far was:
- I had problems with "media server" as a power hog. After searching the forum for a solution a thread gave me the right one.
I ran mp3 check and found several mp3 files that were broken. Fixed whatever i could and replaced what was irreparable (AC/DC-Thunderstruck, of course, was one of'em)
- Found and removed unnecessary start-up entries. Wherever this was not an option i disabled their receivers (i REALLY don,t need to have YouTube ready at boot time, having it started on youtube links is nice enough).
- Used many launchers to the day. The last one and by far the least RAM/CPU and power hungry is the current one - Lightning Launcher by PIERROX (see signature). Look at the download size in the Play Store (handsome title btw) Did i mention it's FREE?
- Keyboard was replaced with Perfect Keyboard Pro - low RAM footprint.
- I permanently use a live wallpaper that gives me an overview of the CPU, RAM, BATTERY and DIRECTION (compass is allways on but is literraly close to 0 in terms of power consumption)
-ALL the useless stuff was uninstalled or replaced.
- Using Android Toolbox i setup database and app load optimisations to run on boot.
- ZRAM is disabled, KSM on, SWAP (64mb) is on.
What i want to do:
- collect a full system dump, if possible. Get it analysed (in UNIX there's kdb for that purpose, i have no ideea what is the equivalent here)
Hope this helps/points/suggests an approach to someone. Furthermore, may i suggest a SEAL TS3 for those mild Siberian winter nights? IP68 & MIL-SPC860 should help 
Regards.
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