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Hey all, I don't know if anyone has even noticed on their Evo's but on mine, the Android system usually eats most of the battery. I noticed there is a ton of processes under Android system that are running compared to like five on my Hero. I've never seen the core system processes take up more than maybe 15% of the battery, but right now, I'm at like 41% with 16m 6s of CPU total and 47s of CPU foreground. If anyone knows why this is or a way to fix it, please let me know. I'm on the first MR update. I've been able to get a lot of battery stuff figured out, if I can get the system to calm down, then I should be able to get even better battery life than my Hero.
I'm seeing the same thing, android system is at 96% battery use after letting the phone sit overnight. Never saw that on my nexus, this is strange.
Could be related to the fact that everything is syncing up, I just activated last night too.
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Yeah, the system seems to have calmed down a bit today, though I also have the OC widget running to keep the processor lower during sleep. I'm guessing its helping, but I'm not sure if there is something else to get it down. I almost never even saw the System show up in usage on my Hero, now its one of the top contributers. I got used to having custom roms on the Hero, but so far all I need on the Evo is unrevoked. I know a lot of people around here don't like it, but I found I only needed a couple of apps that require root and so far love it. That OC widget really comes in handy.
maybe i can clear things up a little bit for you guys...what you see in the battery use section is distributed across 100% of the time since you last had it plugged in. if you notice all the percentage numbers add up to 100%.
if you plug your phone in and turn it on and off on you will see that android system is probably around the 90's thats because android system has used 90+ percent of the phone since you plugged it in....over time that number will lower, becuase other things will start using the battery power... what you see is a percentage based on time. not based on whats actually working RIGHT THEN AND THERE do you guys understand?
I too am having that problem and at 15% battery life warning - it still shows my Android system @ 40-44% usage after 8hrs of work.
I mostly text message all day long due to work - make phone calls and recieve calls from work every hour. GPS on for no more than 15min all day long to get direction when my keymap book doesnt help.
4g off, bluetooth off, background data 15 min only (gps) than off, gps off when not in use, mobile network (3g) off when not in use.
I would have figured my screen being on would have drained my battery life since I check text message every 10-15mins for 8hrs...
So went to work at 9am, 100% life
got off work 6pm, 25% life
I've done all the tricks, cdma only, force stopped a bunch of apps, goggle talk off, sync off, making sure maps/gps has been closed (forced or not)
still disappointed with battery life.
Unrooted Evo
My crappy AT&T Razr lasts me 2-3days with text message + call + 1.5hr of playing Bejeweled a day
*facepalm* you guys don't get it....
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I too am having that problem and at 15% battery life warning - it still shows my Android system @ 40-44% usage after 8hrs of work.
I mostly text message all day long due to work - make phone calls and recieve calls from work every hour. GPS on for no more than 15min all day long to get direction when my keymap book doesnt help.
4g off, bluetooth off, background data 15 min only (gps) than off, gps off when not in use, mobile network (3g) off when not in use.
I would have figured my screen being on would have drained my battery life since I check text message every 10-15mins for 8hrs...
So went to work at 9am, 100% life
got off work 6pm, 25% life
I've done all the tricks, cdma only, force stopped a bunch of apps, goggle talk off, sync off, making sure maps/gps has been closed (forced or not)
still disappointed with battery life.
Unrooted Evo
My crappy AT&T Razr lasts me 2-3days with text message + call + 1.5hr of playing Bejeweled a day
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check your hardware version there is a thread about different types of evos and it seems like everyone who has the hardware revision 0001 has really bad battery life. i would exchange your device.
Yes we know, Freelancerx, or at least I do. But after over 8 hours and the system is still using more of the battery than anything else is a little disturbing. Never seen that on any other device. I have Hardware 0002.
I have this same issue with hardware version 0002. I run Fresh 1.0.1, i use Netarchy-toastmod kernal, have latest radio. I have also tried Damage Control (did get slightly better battery life out of DC but not amazingly different)
after 7 hrs since unplugged my andriod system is at 39%, cell standby 28% phone idle 20% display 9%.
i dont have bluetooth, wifi or 4g on. I use juicedefender+ultimate to turn off apn when screen is not on. I use set CPU to underclock when i am unplugged and go down to 128 when screen off and i am Stilll lucky if i make it all day with moderate usage.
Every day it is the same andrioid system is around 40% of the usage for the time it was unpluged.
the following is listed under included packages (not sure if this shows the same for everyone or if it shows what packages are running)
BRCMBluetoothService - Bluetooth is not on so if it shows packages running this may be an issue
Sync Feeds - I have all android syncs off and mail at 6 hours
settings storage
Rosie Utility
Acounts & syync
Account and sync settings
settings
HTC Widget Download Manager
Network Location
Setup
HTC Checkin service
Checkin serivce
VPN services
Android system
Wonder if there is something to the android system on these (ie something not turning off that should) or if we are all just crazy and happen to get the same results.
I had a hardware 0002 model and often experienced the same thing with high system % usage.
My phone was replaced, due to a screen issue, and now I have the 0003 model and seems system % is much lower so far.
I haven't installed any system update yet, so I am on the first original release rom (not rooted yet).
Going to be testing it for a few days before I update and root, so I can make a fair comparison between the original and current oem's.
If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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I think everyone here understands this. the question i think we are trying to figure out is why with similar usage and configurations some people get 40-60% android systems usage while others get 10% over the same period of time.
Android system is way too high.
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If your phone is on....Android system is being used.
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Yes but if it is configured in an optimal way then android system is always beneath cell standby and phone idle.
For example, today after 15h 28m 23s since unplugged I have...
Cell stanby 38%
Phone idle 37%
Android System.....12%
That is with background processing with auto syncing every hour or so.
I have a question regarding my battery life. Yesterday night at 10:00 pm i played +/- 40 minutes on games like Angry Birds and used my 3G connection for about 10 minutes. My battery dropped from 100% to 61%. When i didnt use my phone (just idle mode) @ 11:46 pm i wanted to check how much battery i had left today in the morning (10:00 am) ..... it whas completely dead 0% .... i have this phone since august but if i knew the battery life whas so crap i would have picked another device.
Is there a way to improve it ??? since i read in diffrent topics people can use their desire for 2 days without a recharge.
- Not rooted
- Froyo 2.2
The HTC Desire is a smartphone running powerful mobile OS and a lot of additional gadgets like GPS, ...
So comparing battery life is impossible.
You can get a battery life of a mobile phone/week if you use it like a mobile phone: No GPS, no data, no playing games, no surfing, just occasional talking. So the battery life is normal and good, compared to mobile phones.
But normally you use it like a smartphone, thus you use it daily, play some games, ... which results in a battery life of a few hours (navigation) up to two or three days (moderate use), with an average battery life of a day (heavy use).
However, one thing for sure: Something is wrong with your phone.
This dosen't mean something is broken, rather you use an app/setting, which causes the battery drain, so you did something wrong, you're the failure, not the device!
Playing a game drains the battery fast. The display is on, probably max. brightness and the CPU and GPU is working like hell. It also gets warm, so you can feel the increased power consumption.
In sleep mode however, it should consume much less than it did for you. Maybe 2% each hour.
So to find what app you've installed or what app you keep in the background running, install a program like Android System Info and take a look at the task list, CPU load should be around 10% if you wait a few seconds and do nothing.
Take a look at the running services (android settings, applications, ...) and check if you really need all of them or if an app is active which you don't use. Then don't force close it, only idiots do this, rather open the app and deactivate the service (like automatic updating)
Next option: Test the battery life again. Maybe an app crashed and caused the increased power draw and now everything is working fine again and battery life is normal again. Then it's impossible to find a culprit with Android System Info.
Also tell us what settings you've activated: GPS/Wifi/Data/BT/...
This is happening because, some process not letting your device to sleep..!!
All you need to do is type *#*#4636#*#*
and check the battery history ,you'll get to know which process is using your battery, and remove that application.
UpSpin said:
The HTC Desire is a smartphone running powerful mobile OS and a lot of additional gadgets like GPS, ...
So comparing battery life is impossible.
You can get a battery life of a mobile phone/week if you use it like a mobile phone: No GPS, no data, no playing games, no surfing, just occasional talking. So the battery life is normal and good, compared to mobile phones.
But normally you use it like a smartphone, thus you use it daily, play some games, ... which results in a battery life of a few hours (navigation) up to two or three days (moderate use), with an average battery life of a day (heavy use).
However, one thing for sure: Something is wrong with your phone.
This dosen't mean something is broken, rather you use an app/setting, which causes the battery drain, so you did something wrong, you're the failure, not the device!
Playing a game drains the battery fast. The display is on, probably max. brightness and the CPU and GPU is working like hell. It also gets warm, so you can feel the increased power consumption.
In sleep mode however, it should consume much less than it did for you. Maybe 2% each hour.
So to find what app you've installed or what app you keep in the background running, install a program like Android System Info and take a look at the task list, CPU load should be around 10% if you wait a few seconds and do nothing.
Take a look at the running services (android settings, applications, ...) and check if you really need all of them or if an app is active which you don't use. Then don't force close it, only idiots do this, rather open the app and deactivate the service (like automatic updating)
Next option: Test the battery life again. Maybe an app crashed and caused the increased power draw and now everything is working fine again and battery life is normal again. Then it's impossible to find a culprit with Android System Info.
Also tell us what settings you've activated: GPS/Wifi/Data/BT/...
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Brightness is already said to medium, i also turned of those life wallpapers and it still drains like ****. When i look at the battery status it says battery life is good. Maybe a application that is running i dont know, ill try to find it out. So far i have a few apps installed which i rarely use.
harish.awe said:
This is happening because, some process not letting your device to sleep..!!
All you need to do is type *#*#4636#*#*
and check the battery history ,you'll get to know which process is using your battery, and remove that application.
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Thanks will check it out and see what it does now in idle mode.
Idle mode 01:28 pm starts now, will post results in a few hours.
Edit: It's 02:00 pm here and i already lost 4% battery, its 96% now , i did *#*#4636#*#* and checked battery status and it seems wifi is in full use 99.7%. I will turn this off but what about the 3G connection
Edit2: It's 2:24 pm here and the battery status is 92% now, i reveived +/- 4 emails in that time. I checked the status in battery indicator pro and this is what it says
Android system 37%
Mobile Stand-by 22%
Phone inactive 15%
Wi-Fi 15%
view 11%
nothing else......i am really lost now.
Is my battery damaged/broken ? .... how can i reset/callibrate the battery ? or should i contact the shop where i got this phone from for a new battery ?
don't worry, lots of people are having bad battery lifes, and angry bird drain your battery really quickly, so it is quite normal, especially on AMOLED desires.
h3llb3nd4 said:
don't worry, lots of people are having bad battery lifes, and angry bird drain your battery really quickly, so it is quite normal, especially on AMOLED desires.
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Yeah i have AMOLED
PS: After 30 minutes without touching it the battery is still 92%.
you could install setcpu and set profiles to save battry life
Might try that.....but after 1 hour the battery is still 92%.....i guess wifi drained my stuff down all the way as i am pretty sure i turned that thing of last time.
i will do some more tests later....
Edit: After 1 and half hour the battery is still 92%, guess the stock rom isnt that bad .
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Edit2: It's 2:24 pm here and the battery status is 92% now, i reveived +/- 4 emails in that time. I checked the status in battery indicator pro and this is what it says
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Its not 5:09 pm here and the battery is now 91% (idle, not touched)....guess wifi what the bad thing on my phone.
Tested the battery last night and must say i am happy with the results
10:00 pm yesterday the battery whas 60%, today i looked back @ 11:24 am and the battery just dropped with 10% (3G is on), i didn't touch the phone since then.
Stock Rom / Froyo 2.2
The battery drain came from wifi
I wrote HTC about the battery and they just sent me a brand new one So now I have 2 batteries and I think I'm happy DD
You can check your battery usage with a widget called "currentwidget" (search for it on this forum)
Usually on SBY with radio ON my phone drains from 3 to 4 Ma and 2ma in plane mode. (sounds good with a 1400mah battery)
In heavy usage, it can go anything from 150 to 500ma (ie: playing game with wifi ON)!!
For nice graphics, try to install "battery snap" too.
From HTC themself:
“To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly:
1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more
2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour
3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well“
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also found this on a swedish website (i useed google translate, to lazy to manually translate it)
A known problem with the new update of the HTC Desire to Android 2.2 Froyo is battery life. How users have experienced the change is highly variable. Several said that battery life has improved, some even talk about a major improvement. The others have had problems that the phone charges from a fully charged battery several times in one day. If you have experienced such problems, there are measures, some simple, others more complicated and time consuming. Below I list things you can try, the lightest at the top.
# 1 Look what it's drawing power. Go to Settings> About phone> Battery> Battery usage or enter * # * # 4636 # * # * on the keypad and look around a bit. Is there anything that seems abnormal, or any program that seems to be the culprit, uninstall simply the application and see if that helps. While you can uninstall applications you believe is in the background and drag the cream from the phone's battery. Some applications may slip into the "Android System" in your battery history.
# 2 Uninstall system control and task killers. Advanced Task Killer and similar programs do more harm than they help. It is unfortunately only to realize this and stop using them. Android is an OS made for having many applications driving on the background. The operating system puts himself applications you do not use the idle to conserve battery power. Different programs that measure your performance on the phone, for example, Task Panel never sets in idle and therefore system resources continuously. If you have such software installed it may be time to consider uninstalling it. More on why the task killers and Android do not go hand in hand in to read this article by Android developer Dianne Hack Born.
# 3 Clean your home screen. It can be a good idea to try if it helps to clean up your Home screens from various widgets.
# 4 Do a soft reset. Discharge the battery completely (not that the phone is turned off), turn off the phone manually, remove the battery and reinsert it, restart your phone and put it on charge. This may have some effect and provide an improved battery life. Such a restoration known as a soft reset and should be tested before you do a master reset (hard reset).
# 5 Do a "hard reset". Have you done all the methods above are still not noticed any major difference? Then it's time to do a master reset of the OS. HTC have said they for some users might went wrong during the update to Froyo causing poor battery life, and when it is easiest to do a reset to get to grips with the problem. Although Android automatically sync contacts in the "cloud" so it might be a good idea to make a backup of your contacts (Contacts> Menu> Import / Export). Note that when you do a hard reset resets the entire phone, including messages, settings, themes, installed applications, etc. These are not the contents of your SD card. There are two methods to restore your phone, do a google search on "hard reset desire," so there are many simple guides. After restoration, the idea not to install any applications you had installed before. Install the programs one at a time and not too many at once.
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my battery drains like a bugatti veyron doing 252mph constantly
so what would you advise . is the kernal i have now the best or should i change .. i dont want to reall lose much performance on what i have now but would like the battery to maybe improve if possible ...
from full charge taking plug out searching market for 2 mins the battery drains 5-8% in matter of mins
and i have only had the phone a week
With that kind of drains the problems the kernel won't change that much. There is probably a app that causes the battery drain so looking in to that will have more effect. Also the brightness/screen on is the biggest drain and kernel won't do much about that.
You said that you have the phone a week, the battery needs some time to reach it's full potential and you probably use the phone a lot because it's new. So use the phone normally for another week, after that week let the phone drain until it shuts itself off, leaf it off and charge it till it's full. (there is a different calibration method but this always worked for me)
What do you have now? Stock or rooted?
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First of all, I would assume that you don't use the phone non-stop (it would be justified to lose power in a few hours if you're on it non-stop).
I recently had issues with power consumption as well. What I did was:
1) check the built in battery monitor: menu-settings-about phone-battery-battery use. The bad thing about this monitor is that it does not differentiate well the apps consuming power, but you can still see if there's something wrong, as the most consumption should come normally from the screen and voice calls. For me, the most consumption was made by com.htc.bg, which, if I let the monitor on for a few seconds, would transform in the calendar app. Weird stuff. I unchecked the calednar auto sync from menu-settings-accounts and sync. It may have slowed the power loss down, but not significantly. I noticed a significant loss of battery by WiFi. I realized, I needed more information so:
2) I installed an app called 'Power Tutor'. What it does is, it calculates which apps consumes power, and it shows you in percentages. After install, you need to start the 'power profiler'. It will appear in your notification bar. If you let it run, after a few hours, you can see in "view application power usage" who is using power. That's how I discovered that my winamp app was really off the charts using power like crazy. So I went in the winamp settings, and I unchecked some options that could have determined this power consumption, like wireless sync, automatic mount as USB drive, etc. There was actually an option that was overriding the wifi power management, stating that the wifi does not stop after 180 seconds of standby. Basically, if you have wifi on, and you stop using the phone for 3 minutes, the phone automatically turns off the wifi. This was not happening any more, due to winamp. So I unchecked all those options, and voila. It worked, I have now normal battery life.
Good luck!
be aware of a couple of things
1. battery drain for the 1st few weeks are high because of a couple of factors, the battery "learns" and gets conditioned over a period of time (doesnt use the old 16hr charge process). its a new device for you so its a novelty, you probably mess about with it with the screen on more than you think.
2. there is a configuration within HTC's builds and in the memory chip of the battery to stop over charging. the device will charge to 100 and then slowly deplete to 90% while still saying full on the phone. as soon as you disconnect it recalibrates to the correct value which is anywhere between 90% and 100% depending at which part of the cycle you catch it
Some other tips to increase battery life, from a friend of mine in the Romanian forum:
1) use the app watchdog, it will warn you when an app is using too much of the processor and will ask you if you want to close it.
2) juice defender with the paid add-on 'ultimate juice' - with the correct settings... it's amazing.
3) Dial *#*#4636#*#* - phone information-network type: select gsm auto prl. The phone will stay on 3G when it has good signal, and switch to 2G when it doesnt, saving battery
4) Change the wallpaper to a static one, not a live one.
5) Go to menu-settings-accounts and sync and increase sync intervals for weather, news, or even set them to sync manually when you choose.
i will try and answer everything at once ..
ok my screen is on 13% brightness
i hardly ever use my phone , the only real use was to root , s-off, put ROM ETC ON
I reply to about 50 texts ish per day and search the market for literally 1-2 mins to see what new apps are in
i dont play games or anything
the thing the battery uses most is the screen and as i say i have it on monochrome theme with 13% brightness, there is nothing synced , i check automatically for email etc .. actually beautiful widgets is set to auto update every 4 hours
i never use wifi as i have a 3gb download/data usage, i dont use gps ...well i do but i have had no need to .. thats about all i can tell ya
rastaman the pt2 is a bit weird it should stay at 100 if just taken out of charge
I calibrated the battery and that made no difference.
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Today i've noticed that my Desire uses avfully alot of power in standby;
since it was dead in the morning (while at ~60% when i went to sleep)
the drain @ standby is around 300mA...
So i figured maybe some app is preventing cpu into going to standby, so i've flashed my 3 days old backup, which was working normally at the time (no power drain) but for some reason the power drain stays the same today when i've flashed it.
I've disabled wifi,bluetooth, even put phone to flight mode, but drain is still high, which makes no sense , since its an old backup which was working fine at the time.
Anyway i have AMOLED Desire with Leedroid 2.3d and countts latest kernel.
Its really wierd why this suddenly started to happen.I just hope it isnt something with the hardware....
I've just tried the latest Oxygen rom and its the same thing... high power drain... ;(;(;(
Its really wierd...different roms and the same issue...
Now i've flashed back a fresh leedroid 2.3d and still no luck.I loose almos 30% battery per hour while phone suppost to be in standby!!
I've tried setcpu profiles and set 128Mhz when screen off, but power drain stays the same.
Could it be somekind of hardware damage, becouse i've tried many different roms and still its the sam thing ?
According to some app that monitors whan is using cpu, it says that system_server occupies all the cpu.But i cant find much about this....
Anyway if someone has an idea, i kinda like more than a 3h battery life a bit cooler phone (its quite warm when in "standby")
I've had this issue as well with CMY build #23 but it seems fine in build #24. Also, how do you check you mA output or what ever?
I have checked this with Battery Monitor Widget while having it run off the battery.
Isnt leedroid based off HTC stock rom ?
You could try flashing another kernel but I'm not sure if that would make a difference since it was running fine several days earlier.
tried flashing bunch of different kernels, same thing.
ill try another radio if it helps
If you open spare parts you can see if your phone enters standby and if its not you can see what app is stopping it.
HTC DESIRE CDMA Cyanogen 7
tried older radio... still power usage doesnt drop below 300 mA.
i really suspect that something is wrong with hardware...
only thing left is to unroot device and install stock rom.
will check...
where in spare parts should i check this ?
cant find anything related to standby...
although it seems that "android system"
is eating most of the processor.
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although it seems that "android system"
is eating most of the processor.
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Get Spare Parts > Battery History
Partial Wake usage - You need to check this from spare parts( more info on Partial Wake usage)
If it says "Android System" / Try it with the following changes
* Settings > Date & Time ( uncheck automatic)
* Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks ( uncheck - "Enable Always on mobile")
* As usual disable wifi/bluetooth etc., etc.,
If you use notification bar power control or Battery mod , it also consumes extra cpu usage
one more thing, get Watch Dog Lite from android to check if any app misbehave( consume more cpu)
You who have poor battery should test MIUI 1.1.28 really good battery life!!!!
Highly recommended! Lovely ROM also!
Went from one day to three days of battery life
ukanth said:
Get Spare Parts > Battery History
Partial Wake usage - You need to check this from spare parts( more info on Partial Wake usage)
If it says "Android System" / Try it with the following changes
* Settings > Date & Time ( uncheck automatic)
* Settings > Wireless & Networks > Mobile Networks ( uncheck - "Enable Always on mobile")
* As usual disable wifi/bluetooth etc., etc.,
If you use notification bar power control or Battery mod , it also consumes extra cpu usage
one more thing, get Watch Dog Lite from android to check if any app misbehave( consume more cpu)
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Tried all of this, same thing.Just cant get it below 300mA.
puredesire said:
You who have poor battery should test MIUI 1.1.28 really good battery life!!!!
Highly recommended! Lovely ROM also!
Went from one day to three days of battery life
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Ill give miui a spin, but its not my battery's fauls since its fine, its the power drain thats the issue.
I've also noticed while putting phone to airplane mode, that in this case "Phone Idle"
uses the most battery.But battery drain is still 300+mA.Which is wierd since this suppost to use least power.
Have you tried deleting battery stats? I was getting abnormally high stand-by battery use after flashing to a different ROM from stock; after charging to 100% and deleting battery stats in recovery it really changed.
Then again this can apparently backfire and make the situation worse according to some :/
Ill try this...maybe it helps ...
I've reseted battery stats and flashed a fresh stock froyo (with htc utillity so im rootless now ) and hell power drain is the same !!!!
Guess it must be something with hardware or something...
I only got the phone 2 days ago, coming from a Nokia 5800 (which I loved), its worlds apart and a very worthy upgrade. I'm totally new to Android and everything about it, but I'm fairly sure I've digested enough information over the past 2 days to set my phone up properly.
So for any other n00bs, this is some of the info I've setup on mine.
Rooting
This is a must, the z4root (1.3 version) app will take care of your permanent rooting needs. Be sure to leave the "USB Debugging mode" on for ever.
Blur
Love it, keep it, I don't think there's any performance hit with it running. But if you don't like it, don't go to the lengths of removing all the apk's manually - just don't register/sign-up when the phone is very first turned on (or if the phone is set-up, then you can backup with TB and factory reset the data, but don't set-up Blur).
Overclocking and undervolting (ie. Battery!)
800MHz doesn't *quite* cut it, the phone is a little laggy and unresponsive. The app to get first is SetVSEL (on Android market), I've got mine setup and stable with:
300MHz / 26
600MHz / 34
1100MHz / 58
And a priority of 60%. Then enable the setting to limit to VSEL1 when the screen is off. A priority any higher than 60% makes the phone really lag when trying to turn the screen back on/answer calls etc. from an idle state.
This took the phone immediately from a 5hr maximum battery life on idle to over 13 hours (still not impressive, but miles better!).
Then upgrade the ROM to the JIT enabled version http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
Backing Up
Titanium backup pro - worth it, get scheduled backups set up and sign up for a free dropbox account (link - http db.tt/fxOD4Zf) for online backup storage.
Must buy/install apps
1 VPN (VPN password saving/connect tool)
AdFree (Ad-blocker)
Angry Birds (Game)
Astro (File manager)
Barcode Scanner
ConnectBot (SSH client)
DropBox (Online storage) link - http db.tt/fxOD4Zf
Google Earth
Facebook
Google Goggles
Last.fm (Music streaming)
Layar (Augmented reality app)
PocketCloud (MSTSC/RDP client)
Quadrant (Benchmarking tool)
ROM Manager
SetCPU (although not neccessary with SetVSEL, but it does offer a little more fine-tuning)
ShopSavvy (Barcode scanner / price comparison tool)
Skype
Sports Tracker
Spotify
Stability Tester (Good for making sure VSEL voltages are stable)
System Monitor (Fairly basic overview of system status)
System Recovery (not available on Android Market) LINK http goo.gl/SSMpE
Titanium Backup Pro
Twitter
Vehicle Light
Voice Caller ID
Voice Recorder
z4root - LINK http goo.gl/CuRgz
Impoving battery
Disable live wallpaper
Disable smart screen brightness and manually reduce
Lower CPU voltage
Set low CPU speed when screen is off
Enable data saving
Disable GPS when not in use
Handy links
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853674
Thank you for the guide, especially the setvsel freqs.
5 hour battery life on idle... that's why people don't like Blur!
I don't use any Blur widgets at all - although I have't removed them - and on the stock ROM will easily get 2 days battery life on idle, hell I can get 2 days with moderate usage!
milesg said:
5 hour battery life on idle... that's why people don't like Blur!
I don't use any Blur widgets at all - although I have't removed them - and on the stock ROM will easily get 2 days battery life on idle, hell I can get 2 days with moderate usage!
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Agree!
If you are coming from U.S. t-mobile, there is no way you can bypass Blur, other than flash to "foreign firmware".
Once you registered and use Blur, you got bunch of useless app running on the background, news/weather/social and etc that can NOT be stopped, unless you root and remove them. ( it seems to be constantly u/d link your status to the world, I rather have my own privatcy control )
Blur Contact also another quick way to confuse the crap out of my contact and produce annoying double list.
Plus, unless you are on Froyo, you don't get to disable "Data Enabled" under Data Delivery. ( yes, you can install APNdroi or similar app to stop Data access when not in used, but it will just be another program running on the background )
Anyway, I really appreciate all these genius in the forum who creats so many different custom ROM and firmware for me to "upgrade".
I don't think it is possible to skip the blur account setup.
Other then that I am not convinced that any deep customization is necessary to make the DEFY a great phone.
I rooted the phone to rename/remove some unnecessary apps (e.g. amazonmp3). but after the earpiece problem I got my phone back with the original firmware restored. because I was lazy I didn't bother rooting and renaming/deleting. just installed launcher pro and advanced task killer. result: same performance improvements as with the rooted one before!
I just run a quadrant benchmark: 1073 points!
note that my defy is not really de-blured. I just installed launcher pro to stop that terrible blur launcher. even my task killer settings are conservative.
battery life is also not that bad: weekdays it is just a bit over a day (~30h). weekends depending on what I do. this weekend I am sitting home and still have 40% battery after having it disconnected from charger on friday morning.
bottom line: rooting is recommended to do some maintenance stuff (backups, firewall, etc.). using an alternative launcher is a MUST (launcher pro works best for me, but there are others too). however, renaming or deleting apps is not a good idea because of the heavy system integration of blur crap motorola did.
blessani said:
This took the phone immediately from a 5hr maximum battery life on idle to over 13 hours (still not impressive, but miles better!).
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hey just a tip, install recovery, or, as your phone is just very young.
connect it to a power plug everytime when charging (not pc-usb, real power supply) and let i load as long as possible (3-4 hours max is enough) try to repeat this process 3-6 times and you'll get the maximum battery life.
works great! :=)
i resetted my battery stats once after a rom upgrade and the battery lasted for about as u said, 3-5 hours... i thought that i had destroyed my phone or similar, but after these complete charges, everything worked as it should again
would suggest it for any power driven device
My handset has the custom Defy recovery installed already (first thing) as per http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893291
Its only charged off mains power, but to be honest, I've only had it 3 days now, and I've been using it so much in the past day tweaking it, that I haven't had a chance to see what I'll get our of it.
Those talking about de-bluring, theres a really easy non-root method to do it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943134
You don't realyl need to OverClock unléess you're playing a game on PSX4DROID...
i use 1200 mhz @ 58 and it's quite stable tbh. Haven't done much testing but the temp stays at 42°c
I'm actually concerned about the temperature of CPU...how high can it go until cou is likely to get effected?
I am a noob too. I came from spica, so i used android before and flashed some roms, but i only playing for the Defy for a day and i have some question. I bought one with 2.21 DE with blur, the phone was fast but the unlock slider lagged like hell, and after a call, the call summary was displayed for at least 10-15 seconds.
I flashed a 2.51 CE firmware on the device and it is generally much faster, but the call summary is still locking the phone for too long time(I rooted the phone overclocked, factory reseted done everything, but nothing helps, somtimes it is better after restart). Does anyone knows why?
Another thing, i know that 2.51 is undowngradeable.I read that i cannot flash most of the cooked ROMS and the chineese and beta froyo ROMs, but th phone is fast, and i got enough of cooked and alfa, beta ROMs during my spica period, and no way i want to go back to 2.21 so that is not a problem, but when the official UK or CE Froyo comes out, i will be able flash the sbf with RSD lite or I am locked to that firmware forever? And if someone updated the Defy to 2.51 with OTA, not RSD lite made the Defy undowngradeble?
Sorry for the lot of talk and thank you for your answers in advance
Just a note if you update to the new Blur you won't be able to use z4root. You need Super1Click (ver 2.51). Here is a post on it from Moto. https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44255?start=0&tstart=0 And here is another from XDA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11151470#post11151470
Thank you for your tips.
I came from 5800 either
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[UT] X-RAY said:
I don't think it is possible to skip the blur account setup.
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Press the Menu button (the hardware button with the 4 squares) and a menu pops up with "Skip Setup" listed. ^^
very good info, will try Titanium Backup Pro
You can use the phone without being logged into Blur. Shut the phone off and then go to myblur.com and change your password. Follow the directions and when done turn the phone back on and you will get an error that either the user ID or PW is wrong. All the other functions will work. For me the phone seemed real laggy running like this as it was trying to call home all the time.
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Agree!
If you are coming from U.S. t-mobile, there is no way you can bypass Blur, other than flash to "foreign firmware".
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5hr maximum battery life on idle?
ABC_Universal said:
5hr maximum battery life on idle?
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Yeah there is something wrong then if that is happening. I use a Defy and a DHD, and days I only use the DHD, and let my Defy just sit there, it can go three days before it even gets to 80%.
3 days before it gets to 80% ....yeah right
my defy eats 5-10% per 6hours in idle ... and thats at 300/16vsel setting, stock 2.1 rom, and skipped blur setup
and with moderate use ...i get around 48hours out of it
so how could yours be at 80% after 3days being idle is beyond me ...what rom are u using & what idle settings?
Mine only uses 4% battery when idle for 8 hours over night with the alarm clock programmed to go off so i guess that would be around 12% / 24 hours if left in standby / idle.
Running stock 2.1 but overclocked and undervolted with setvsel.
300 / 20
700 / 32
1100 / 56
75% threshold.
I also use droidwall to enable only what i want to access wifi or data but not sure if that would help when the phone is idle.
I use
300/16
600/36
1000/56
80%threshold
droidwall wouldnt help me since i dont have 3g connection set up and i only turn wifi on when i need it ...
does your 2.1 rom come with motoblur or without?
I wish my defy would eat only 4% per 8hours =/
Hi,
Yes mine has Blur installed & I normally only have the weather programme running.