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I know this is in the wrong forum but its an emergancy,
So lets say i dropped my phone in the pool, and it wont turn on, i have insurance its rooted and running a custom rom,.... can they fond out its rooted even though it wont boot, thx please reply quick
*It wont even recognize u touch the power button and even try to turn on*
been in rice for over 3 hours
if you have insurance then whats the emergency? have tmo send you a new phone...
not only that but ANYONE could have answered this question...see, im doing it right now, and im not a dev, and i JUST CAME from checking the general and Q&A sections, so its not like nobody wouldve seen it there, cus i was just there and i wouldve been back there later, too...AND did i mention im not a DEV....so why do you think you deserve to break the rules just because youre clumsy?
if you had posted in the right place i still wouldve seen it, and i still wouldve answered, just without all the "wrong section" BS. i wouldve been alot nicer about it if you hadnt tried to act like youre better than everyone else. everyone esle has to follow the rules, but apparently you think that you dont...
put the phone in a [ziploc] bag of rice for a few days, thatll pull out all the moisture and maybe you can resurrect it...
post in the right section...whether you think its an emergency or not...
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Whoareyou said:
I know this is in the wrong forum but its an emergancy,
So lets say i dropped my phone in the pool, and it wont turn on, i have insurance its rooted and running a custom rom,.... can they fond out its rooted even though it wont boot, thx please reply quick
*It wont even recognize u touch the power button and even try to turn on*
been in rice for over 3 hours
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If it won't boot or respond at all, I honestly don't see how they can see it's rooted.
Now about getting a replacement. Insurance companies don't like replacing wet phones. I have no idea why. What difference does it make if it's wet or just dropped/lost?
Now, if your insurance covers water damage, ( I have it too, I THINK it does but I'm not sure, I'd call T-Mobile and just ask them if the insurance covers it. If it does, tell them your problem. Make sure you clarify whether it's covered or not first).
If they say it's not covered, say thanks, and hang up. Remember, you have to make it seem like you're just asking about your insurance, not that you need it.
Now this is where it gets sketchy. I know for sure the warranty covers you losing your phone. Call T-Mobile back, make sure it's a different Rep, and tell them you lost your phone, have the insurance, and need a replacement.
Now, this could be taken as insurance fraud which is illegal, but what difference does it make if the phone is lost or wet? Either way my phone is lost to me, and someone who's phone gets wet pays the same amount of money monthly for insurance as someone who simply loses their phone.
oh if its asurion, they'll replace wet... it will cost a deductible... oh and WRONG THREAD! but no they wouldnt give a damn if its rooted, you know the government said today that we are allowed to root our stuff
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If it won't boot or respond at all, I honestly don't see how they can see it's rooted.
Now about getting a replacement. Insurance companies don't like replacing wet phones. I have no idea why. What difference does it make if it's wet or just dropped/lost?
Now, if your insurance covers water damage, ( I have it too, I THINK it does but I'm not sure, I'd call T-Mobile and just ask them if the insurance covers it. If it does, tell them your problem. Make sure you clarify whether it's covered or not first).
If they say it's not covered, say thanks, and hang up. Remember, you have to make it seem like you're just asking about your insurance, not that you need it.
Now this is where it gets sketchy. I know for sure the warranty covers you losing your phone. Call T-Mobile back, make sure it's a different Rep, and tell them you lost your phone, have the insurance, and need a replacement.
Now, this could be taken as insurance fraud which is illegal, but what difference does it make if the phone is lost or wet? Either way my phone is lost to me, and someone who's phone gets wet pays the same amount of money monthly for insurance as someone who simply loses their phone.
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or you can just leave the phone (without the sim) somewhere public. then it is lost.
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or you can just leave the phone (without the sim) somewhere public. then it is lost.
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Good luck explaining why you took out your SIM card. Back when the G1 had first come out, my friend got it, and we were at his house and stupid me pushed him in the pool thinking he didn't have his phone on him. He took out his SIM card and put it in his old sidekick 3 and called T-Mobile, he told them he lost his phone, and they wouldn't believe him since he still had his SIM. They thought he was just saying this to get a new phone for free to sell it.
or take out the sim.
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Thanks for your support, thx
As a ex phone tech, I can tell you for sure... there's no way they can tell your phone is rooted if it wont power on. They just check for physical or water damage. Thats it. Just tell them what happened and get ready to pay $150 for a replacement though.
Oh great, i hope it dosent come to that, its in a bag of rice and im just praying it works tomorow.
Today a new change to Copyright law was announced at: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ that protects users from being discriminated against for having "rooted" or "jailbroken" their phones. Furthermore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act details that "a manufacturer cannot void a warranty because of an aftermarket replacement part unless they can prove that the part caused the failure (e.g. those early unlocks that scrambled the baseband's IMEI info)." This can be treated as (because of how the Act was written): "[your carrier/manufacturer] cannot legally void the warranty for a mere jailbreak, but could void the warranty for an unlock that goes wrong and bricks the phone by damaging the baseband or boot loader."
Point being: tell them to **** off or you'll call the FCC or your lawyer.
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Today a new change to Copyright law was announced at: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ that protects users from being discriminated against for having "rooted" or "jailbroken" their phones. Furthermore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act details that "a manufacturer cannot void a warranty because of an aftermarket replacement part unless they can prove that the part caused the failure (e.g. those early unlocks that scrambled the baseband's IMEI info)." This can be treated as (because of how the Act was written): "[your carrier/manufacturer] cannot legally void the warranty for a mere jailbreak, but could void the warranty for an unlock that goes wrong and bricks the phone by damaging the baseband or boot loader."
Point being: tell them to **** off or you'll call the FCC or your lawyer.
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I really don't think this has to do with an aftermarket part. And I really don't think that manufacturers have to honor a warranty when the product they put out has been altered in a way that voids said warranty. The new law simply states that the owner of the phone isn't subect to any legal troubles because of what they modified.
With all of that being said, you ****ed up your phone, knowingly posted in the wrong section because you think you'll get a faster response, and now you're hoping someone can tell you the magical way to get a new phone for free.
Good luck with that.
Whoareyou said:
I know this is in the wrong forum but its an emergancy,
So lets say i dropped my phone in the pool, and it wont turn on, i have insurance its rooted and running a custom rom,.... can they fond out its rooted even though it wont boot, thx please reply quick
*It wont even recognize u touch the power button and even try to turn on*
been in rice for over 3 hours
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Um, wrong section........
Please post in proper place!
Whoareyou said:
Oh great, i hope it dosent come to that, its in a bag of rice and im just praying it works tomorow.
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Dude, if you really wanna save it... take it apart and dry it out. You need a torx screwdriver #5 and look online for help on disassembly. Ive had many water damaged phones resurrected from death but you have to take them apart. Letting them dry by themselves will take a week and might ruin the board due to corrosion. Then you'll have to open it anyways and clean the chips with an old toothbrush and rubbing alcohol. But you might already have corroded chips and function is impaired somewhat or totally. So take it apart CAREFULLY (lowes or home depot or whatever hardware store have torx screw drivers for under $10 and have multi bits with the screwdriver) and dry it out and clean the board and everypart you can with the alcohol and toothbrush. The lcd is a ***** so be careful. Worse case senerio... you can just put it together and make your insurance claim. But keep it in the rice bag (lol! Never heard that one! It will take a week till it drys out, especially the lcd. Dont turn it on until a week has passed. It might make it worse. That is unless you take it apart and do it the right way) Until you can get a torx screwdriver tomorrow.
tmobile will replace it in the store. Its a flagship phone. they do warrenty and inx for flagship phones in the store.
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Um, wrong section........
Please post in proper place!
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Show some mercy, Frieza. Or we'll send Goku after ya!
krolla03 said:
tmobile will replace it in the store. Its a flagship phone. they do warrenty and inx for flagship phones in the store.
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Not for a liquid damaged phone, lol!
Do you have a mental disorder that disallows you from posting in the correct forum section?
nbetcher said:
Today a new change to Copyright law was announced at: http://www.copyright.gov/1201/ that protects users from being discriminated against for having "rooted" or "jailbroken" their phones. Furthermore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act details that "a manufacturer cannot void a warranty because of an aftermarket replacement part unless they can prove that the part caused the failure (e.g. those early unlocks that scrambled the baseband's IMEI info)." This can be treated as (because of how the Act was written): "[your carrier/manufacturer] cannot legally void the warranty for a mere jailbreak, but could void the warranty for an unlock that goes wrong and bricks the phone by damaging the baseband or boot loader."
Point being: tell them to **** off or you'll call the FCC or your lawyer.
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Right off the site you linked:
"The Librarian of Congress has announced the classes of works subject to the exemption from the prohibition against circumvention of technological measures that control access to copyrighted works. Persons making noninfringing uses of the following six classes of works will not be subject to the prohibition against circumventing access controls (17 U.S.C. § 1201(a)(1)) until the conclusion of the next rulemaking."
That has nothing to do with warranties on the phone, only with them restricting our ability to root and jailbreak, etc. The wireless carriers aren't saying we can't root our phones or anything like that. They ARE however saying that the warranty is void if you root it. That is not illegal, they can make any warranty terms they want. This is saying that it is LEGAL to root and jailbreak, etc... not that it's illegal to void your warranty because you rooted your phone.
Also, just like chrisinaz said, the Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act only references using different PARTS, not different software. It has nothing to do with rooting/jailbreaking in any way.
Oh yeah, to the OP (WhoAreYou): Nobody cares if you think your 'emergency' is so damn important. POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION. Anyway, the MT3GS will cost you $130 to replace thru Asurion. Remember it's insurance, not a warranty, so this WILL be covered by Asurion either way. They really don't care, I can definitely assure you that! If you get something exchanged under warranty, then you gotta worry about unrooting...
r0man said:
Do you have a mental disorder that disallows you from posting in the correct forum section?
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LOL! Obviously, he thinks he'll get a quicker response by posting the busier sub forum section. And remember he's a VIP for creating his own rom by using Eugene's and adding a stock launcher to it and passing it off as a custom rom and creating another useless thread in the devleopment section. I shouldn't have even given him advice the more I think about it. We are all just adding more fuel to the fire...
Hey guys,
You all are true genius', so I will ask you all for your help/opinion.
I don't have insurance on my Incredible, because I bought it second hand, and replaced my Eris with it. Verizon won't insure the phone because it wasn't brought through them. However, If i can prove that the phone is defective on it's own accord, ie via software, maybe they will swap it.
**Mod Edit - Warranty Fraud Comments Removed** That way when I show it to them, they would have to default swap it. They would probably try and do a factory reset, but that would keep the same rooted rom, right? Not sure how that works.
Maybe i'm just being silly, and can just pay for what ever the repair is...
That is something called fraud. I don't think you're going to get much help with that
That's rather dishonest, wouldn't you say?
Sorry, I was really upset when I woke up and posted that..anyway I can have this thread deleted please? Rather embarassing, sorry, I'm just really upset i've never had a smartphone break on me
So.... what's wrong with it?
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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W4LLY said:
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
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That kid would either have a bloody nose or would of payed for my phone in my case
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lol. Yah Verizon could care less if the phone is defective if it has a giant cracked screen. Obviously they would think that the damage to the phone affect the internals of it or something along those lines.
Not sure how you'll get a kid, who involuntarily bumped into you (at a party I'm assuming if the guy was drunk) to pay for your phone, but good luck tracking him down now. Also, probably not a great idea to have your phone sitting on your lap at a place with hard flooring while people are drunk. Put the phone in your pocket or keep it held in your hand.
I lol'd that you broke your phone trying to show up some iPhone users.
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
yeah, it's hopeless man, you're life is officially over...
1. Google.com
2. HTC incredible digitizer
3. spend $
4. fix phone
Ive heard of replacement screens being sold on the internet.. not sure where and who would fix it for you..but its an option
It's 120 dollars for HTC's repair contractor to replace the screen. It's not the worst thing in the world.
PS get a case
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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csseale said:
Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
AdhvanIt said:
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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You forgot one.
5. You are a dumbass.
1.) I wasn't trying to, I -did- show up my friends iPhone 4. 3g speed test using opera...not even close.
2.) I had the Verizon case, but it obviously didn't offer the best frontal support.
3.) Violence doesn't solve anything, and it was a random person I don't even know. He didnt purposely knock into me..he was just a drunk idiot. My grip could have been better/been paying attention to it more.
4.) Thank you all for the various replies/solutions.
If HTC replaces the screen for 120$, I'm really ok with that. Apple charges 199$ for an iPhone 4 screen.
I understand how warrantee's work, I fix iPhones all day. I know that accidental/physical damage is not covered under a typical warranty, but Verizon's Insurance policy (7$ a month, with an 80$ deductable) is normally great because it will replace your phone NO MATTER WHAT, that involves falling off a cliff, cracked screen, ect.
The problem is that since i got my Incredible second hand, and not though VZ, they wouldn't transfer my insurance to the new phone. So, I can go back to using my Eris..but I really am in love with my Incredible.
5.) I know rooting voids warranty. If it was a stock root, though, the VZ rep probably wouldn't get it, was my original point. Regardless, if you do a factory reset, or unroot your device, your warranty is no longer voided, no?
I would start checking out the kiosks at your local mall. Our rinky-dink mall has 2 stores that will replaced cracked screens for about $80 - $100.....while you wait...
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
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Ok
Cory
"Results may vary."
I have a rooted S-OFF droid incredible with a custom ROM. It also has a completely broken screen. The verizon salesman has told me I can get it covered under warranty and it needs to be sent in. My worry is the S-OFF is going to void this warranty offer when I send it in. Anything to be worried about you think? If there is any doubt, I'd like to turn S-ON, reload stock, and do a factory reset. Anyone able to write up a guide on how to do this pretending I was blind (press down 5 times, wait 5 seconds, etc.)? I did find this guide that gets me part of the way there, but I can't see what I'm doing.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732497
Thanks in advance.
If the screen is busted, they won't be able to see what you ahve done. Also, it is not like you fried the phone due to something you flashed. I don't think you have anything to worry about.
I've sent 3 rooted Droids back to Verizon before I switched to the Incredible, you should have nothing to worry about
I wouldn't worry half as much. The only thing I would worry about is the fact that your gonna send it in and can't do anything to change s-off.. What if they change the screen thinking they can just perform a factory data reset and BAM! they are presented with some custom rom with superuser capability.. And then your account get's hit up with full retail ($529.99US). For some people that can be a large sum of money.
I'll pray with you that is not the case.. I hope you simply receive your replacement phone problem free. I know what it's like to have a cracked screen luckily for me it happened before I jumped the fence into the world of unrevoked forever..
In the future I would check out otterbox(.)com/htc-droid-incredible-cases/htc-droid-incredible-cases,default,sc.html
sorry 4 hijackin'.....
so is it covered under warranty to get a replacement if I dropped the phone and scuffed it up pretty bad?
(It's still operating, but the scuffs make pretty unpleasant to use)
Oh, and is it 9 months for the warranty?
nat4mac said:
sorry 4 hijackin'.....
so is it covered under warranty to get a replacement if I dropped the phone and scuffed it up pretty bad?
(It's still operating, but the scuffs make pretty unpleasant to use)
Oh, and is it 9 months for the warranty?
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No. What's likely happening is that the VZW rep is referring to an Asurion claim as a warranty even though it's insurance. Warranty only covers manufacturer defects, and does not include cosmetic damage that we inflict ourselves.
najaboy said:
No. What's likely happening is that the VZW rep is referring to an Asurion claim as a warranty even though it's insurance. Warranty only covers manufacturer defects, and does not include cosmetic damage that we inflict ourselves.
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gotcha...thanks
if it's the insurance, does it even matter if it's rooted or not? can't you just pay the deductible and get the new phone. I know they told me i can run mine over with a car and essentially throw it in the river and for $90 i get a new one.
I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?
shellin said:
I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?
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You dont mention if your rooted or not? If not why cant you just send it back under warrenty?
And if your rooted, 'try' follow the instructions to unroot....and then send it back .....
edit - I should learn to read...you are rooted lol....but still id be trying to unroot
Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
shellin said:
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.
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If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.
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I didn't know T-Mobile offered accidental damage warranties. I thought they only had the PHP insurance.
shellin said:
Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!
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I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!
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No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.
The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
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No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.
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Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
Ive had countless phones for countless years and legitimately paid for insurnace and never claimed so its what i would call 'karma'....and whether you did or didnt drop it, sh*t does occassionaly randomly stop working....
I think its more down to your own moral standing....but as for posting it on the web, its obviously better that you dont !
NB - just for the record before I get shot down in flames, I'm not openly condoning criminal activity, were not talking about doing this on a commercial scale this is as a result of an accident.....read the small print on your phone and or home insurance and see if you are covered but don't freak out about it
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The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
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You could try the following ? they dont list as having a camera modules in as of now but that might be becasue the phone is so new ? Cant hurt to email though I guess.....
http://www.gultek.eu/home.php
And good luck with that, god knows what it will cost you ? Depending on your home insurance excess id possibly see if its worth replacing it that way ?....just dont mention it to the guy above lol
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Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
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Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.
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Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.
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Dude seriously.....flowers and bunnies? Are you on acid ?
Your obviously one of three things.....a cop, an insurance salesman or a religious nutcase.....all off which I have utter contempt for lol
Right I promise to make this my last post on this topic....
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With the exception of Ned Flanders above who clearly lives in Pleasantville, la la land the vast majority of people on here live in the real world. You have to accept that sometimes, legitimately or otherwise things happen outside of the realms of what you are covered for....If you were to insure your items for every possible waking scenario your policy cost would far outweigh that of the items insured thus being totally unreasonable.
Now I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't running a multi billion pound insurance fraud empire, he's just an average Joe who's worked hard to pay for a phone which is now damaged. Whilst I'm not saying its ok to be fraudulent, sometimes rules need to be bent to suit a scenario in which you 'are' covered, i,e if your phone insurance doesn't cover for damage but your house insurance does then claim on that, or if your covered for loss and theft (then you could theoretically 'accidently' lose it.....!)
To put this into perspective I currently pay Household, Car, Phone, Life, Teeth and Pet insurance (to name but a few) totalling hundreds if not thousands of pounds per year and have yet to make a claim and insurance companies make millions each year from this. Its also stated that to warrant insurance you'd need to make on average at least 2 claims per year....which the vast majority of people never do. So while I appreciate your point I think you need to get off your high horse, and change your 'mightier than thou' mentality.....go to church, say your 100 hail Marys or whatever it is you feel you need to do to redeem yourself over this obviously criminal conversation lol
Also - I'm also fairly sure that he will learn from this and will take the relevant accidental damage insurance out going forward. And should I see the OP's name in my local tabloids tomorrow for having run said multi billion pound insurance fraud empire I personally will eat my desire for the delight of you !
Oh and one last thing......NO ONE is out to get me, or you or anyone else for that matter (unless your a full blown crook?!)....this isn't a conspiracy theory......oh and err and crackpot extremist Muslims DID blow up the world trade centre....its wasn't the US government, Aliens or any of those pesky bunnies you previously mentioned just in case you were too scared to leave the house ?! lol
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Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
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Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
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Man.....
The whole idea of this site is about the freedom of choice and the ability to run custom ROMs etc etc on your phone but the whole concept whilst not illegal goes against the manufactures warranty and what they would have you do with your handset....hence the reason why there's so many requests to unroot/revert in the event of an issue.... and I know you know this.
If you accidently bricked your handset as a result of a bad flash or whatever .....your first port of call isn't to go out and buy another handset is it? (unless your a lottery winner, stupid or any combination therof) You'd try and undo what youve done and if needs be send it back to the manufactor hoping they will fix it without spotting any changes (or at least thats what id do....and im pretty sure so would thousands of others) but where then do you draw the line ? That is in fact also dodgy .....but its a bit of a grey area and whilst not a hardware issue its just as ropey a topic, yet you somehow pick and choose the bits of the rules you adhere to ? Go figure !!.....If HTC found that you had changed any element internally resulting in a malfunction you'd probably incur a charge same as if they found that you 'had' dropped the device and damaged the hardware but result is still the same.....
I've had devices that have been looked after, never dropped or abused and hardware does sometimes stop working....does that mean I'm not eligible to make a claim ? NO, does it also automatically imply that I've misused or neglected the item ? NO....its down to the discretion of the person reviewing the item and obviously an internal inspection.
So whether you ultimately source an independent part or return it regardless (hoping they fix it for free) but end up having to pay what they ask.....your still going to have to pay someone !! All I'm trying to say as a result of all this is....What have you got to lose? Nothing.....if it gets through great, if it doesn't your no worse off.
Whilst my view on the subject maybe different from yours I still agree that you take the appropriate cover and you are responsible for your item, but don't come on here giving it all the 'rules and regulations talk' when in fact your very being here is breaking the rules in the first instance.....
Thanks though
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off
Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off
Hot_Hands said:
And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Look I agree on the fraud side but were not talking about throwing your phone on the floor whenever you want a new one, or regularly taking the pi55 with bogus claims but sometimes accidents happen and why after paying for insurance shouldnt you be entitled to a replacement irrespective of the reason the damage came about?
And as much as much as I love the products etc I have yet to receive one that works 100% from the offset (and i have to put up with and accept this....and who's stood fighting my corner as a consumer?) .....see my post 'desire behaving badly'. I paid £420 for a phone and havent touched it (in terms of root etc) yet it still has faults and i negate this fact by occasionaly bending the rules and maybe getting a replacement.....its swings and round abouts......
If you have a problem with that, thats fine........I dont.
Howdy all<
First, I swear I've searched high and low for this answer. I've been to the xda threads with guides to disassembly and reassembly and followed the links to OEM part retailers and come up with zilch.
So, I have a bricked GT-N7105 with suspected sudden death syndrome. It acted screwy for a few days with random reboots etc and then, one day, I took it out of my pocket and it was dead. No boot, no charge, no lights, no nothing. I sent it to Samsung who (classic) are claiming liquid damage and want to charge me $588 Australian to fix it. I am unprepared to pay this. I know that the chip should be covered by extended warranty but this is voided by the supposed liquid damage. I will fight them on it but am not optimistic about the outcome.
So, assuming that I'm not giving my money to Samsung or the company that they outsource their repairs to, can anyone point me towards a link for a store selling replacement motherboards for the N7105?
Furthermore, I haven't managed to find specific information on the motherboard model number for the N7105: is it the same as the N7100 or any of the other Note II variants? Anything that can widen my search criteria will be helpful.
Thanks all. Love your work.:good:
Anyone?
aceofdaves said:
Anyone?
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try ebay?
If your phone has suffered SDS,then only emmc is damaged,not the whole motherboard.You can get it(emmc) replaced from a third party repair shop.
Gud luck.
1st of all, a motherboard is about 200-250$, and you can repair it at a normal smartphone repair shop, screw samsung.
request photos of the "liquid damage"
i'd take this to the court.
When i destroyed the partitions on my old galaxy player 5.0, they said it was corrosion from some sticky liquid lol, and they eventually gave me a replacement (probably because i figured out they were lying)
+1,Its the same old story they tell to everyone...here in india too .So if you are sure that its not damaged by liquid,just stick to your point and be stern in your approach while dealing with these so called 'technicians'...
Gud luck.
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Wow. Thanks all! That's all really useful information. I now have it back so I think I'm going to try replaceing the emmc. Will update the thread then.
aceofdaves said:
Howdy all<
First, I swear I've searched high and low for this answer. I've been to the xda threads with guides to disassembly and reassembly and followed the links to OEM part retailers and come up with zilch.
So, I have a bricked GT-N7105 with suspected sudden death syndrome. It acted screwy for a few days with random reboots etc and then, one day, I took it out of my pocket and it was dead. No boot, no charge, no lights, no nothing. I sent it to Samsung who (classic) are claiming liquid damage and want to charge me $588 Australian to fix it. I am unprepared to pay this. I know that the chip should be covered by extended warranty but this is voided by the supposed liquid damage. I will fight them on it but am not optimistic about the outcome.
So, assuming that I'm not giving my money to Samsung or the company that they outsource their repairs to, can anyone point me towards a link for a store selling replacement motherboards for the N7105?
Furthermore, I haven't managed to find specific information on the motherboard model number for the N7105: is it the same as the N7100 or any of the other Note II variants? Anything that can widen my search criteria will be helpful.
Thanks all. Love your work.:good:
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there you go http://www.etradesupply.com/samsung/galaxy-models/samsung-note-ii-lte-n7105.html?limit=all
N7105 is totally different to the N7100 internally so the mainboard will not physically fit onto the chassis if you put the wrong one in ..as the chassis behind the screen which carries the mainboard is totally different ... so get the the correct one if you are going to change the mainboard
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there you go etradesupply link
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Thanks for that, mate. This comes up on google. They have no motherboards!
DId you manage to find a replacement motherboard @acesofdaves?