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[Q] Noob needs some help!

Whats up guys? been following this site for a while.. but never joined lol because i didnt have a decent phone.. Well now i have a evo that i just rooted with unrevoked, as well as i have flashed over to Amon_ra. Now my question is (besides i will do a lot more reading but..) What do i do next? i am wanting my phone to run as it did stock (no glitching or crash's) I want to overclock the evo for more speed, I heard of cm6 & turbo ... (not sure of the full name) is pretty insane fps wise and the quickness it allows. If i could have figured this out by searching, i am sorry i am just very persistant lol.
Thanks again,
you guys are AWESOME!

Evilev0 said:
Whats up guys? been following this site for a while.. but never joined lol because i didnt have a decent phone.. Well now i have a evo that i just rooted with unrevoked, as well as i have flashed over to Amon_ra. Now my question is (besides i will do a lot more reading but..) What do i do next? i am wanting my phone to run as it did stock (no glitching or crash's) I want to overclock the evo for more speed, I heard of cm6 & turbo ... (not sure of the full name) is pretty insane fps wise and the quickness it allows. If i could have figured this out by searching, i am sorry i am just very persistant lol.
Thanks again,
you guys are AWESOME!
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Well you can always just run the Stock rooted ROM and find a good kernel compatible with it.

try myns warm twopointtwo. wait for rls5 to come out or it will be glitchy with your hardware.
welcome to the root crew.

Welcome
If you are looking for something similar to stock I would personally try "Sprint Lovers Rom". You can install any kernel you want and download "Setcpu" to overclock your phone. My favorite rom is Myns Warm two point two, but I am waiting until he releases his next version which should be compatible with the new Radios, PRI, PRLS etc. You might also want to stay away from any of the Gingerbread based roms until they are fully ported over and bug free.
The rom you mentioned in your post is Cyanogen Mod. Although this is a good rom, it is also an AOSP rom which doesn't have HTC Sense. Therefore if your looking for something similar to stock but with all the tweaks and goodies you should choose a Sense Based Rom.
Best advise is to just keep flashing & flashing until you find the Rom that you like best. Everyone's tastes are different and there is no "Best Rom" out there, it just personal preference.
Hope this helps

Thank you all, who responded I am gonna try out the "Sprint lovers"
"Myna" roms far as the kernel I am not to sure about those just yet. Need to read up still.. lol So for now I am very open to suggestions . I look forward to expanding my knowledge on here with ya'll. I just don't want to brick my phone, I will die! Lol I love my evo!
P.s do I do the "Back up's" and "Nandroid" back up's, when changing roms and kernels?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

first, DEFINETALLY DO A NANDROID BACKUP. as a general rule, backup whenever you like the state your phone is in (before you make a mod) and always have at least one backup handy always. titanium backups are helpful for changing roms because you can get all your app's data back. helpful on games and the like.
for kernels, i would suggest netarchy's 4.3. he says its is beta, but thats just because net likes his work to be perfect. it is as stable as anythign else. it has a nice sbc tweak as well. test many kernels. those are particular by phone. that is why people with the same phone get different battery life. what works well on one phone is terrible on another. so try netarchy's, maybe kingx's (off forum), and some others. i cant think of any more. i personally use netarchys though.

[Q] ROM question - CyanogenMod-6 / froyo

OK... so have 2 questions... just rooted and installed CyanogenMod-6 (looks pretty slick... best thing i did so far...) but seeing how cool this ROM was - and the availability of other 2.2 roms I was wondering is there some comparison chart showing the differences of all the froyo builds... and how they 'stack-up' etc...?? I know 2.3 (CM7) is avail but assume it isnt ready for prime-time yet as even with the CM6 build I was having a few issues taking pictures with the camera (froze).
second question:
Also being root with CM6 is there a way to remove the F#c%book, twatter, and other built in apps i dont plan on using? Is there a special procedure for this? (standard removal method does not seem to work).

steve_77 said:
OK... so have 2 questions... just rooted and installed CyanogenMod-6 (looks pretty slick... best thing i did so far...) but seeing how cool this ROM was - and the availability of other 2.2 roms I was wondering is there some comparison chart showing the differences of all the froyo builds... and how they 'stack-up' etc...?? I know 2.3 (CM7) is avail but assume it isnt ready for prime-time yet as even with the CM6 build I was having a few issues taking pictures with the camera (froze).
second question:
Also being root with CM6 is there a way to remove the F#c%book, twatter, and other built in apps i dont plan on using? Is there a special procedure for this? (standard removal method does not seem to work).
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Our phones are s-on by default, which prevents the modification of /system, where the facebook/twitter/gmail, etc. apps are stored. If you want s off, check the sticky thread in the dev section, however, you can just get an app called titanium backup and freeze the app which will disable it and hide it in your app drawer. That would be by far the easiest route. Or, alternatively, you can reboot into clockwork recovery, mount /system in the partitions menu, and then plug your phone into your computer and run adb shell from command prompt (assuming you have android sdk installed) and then typing cd /system/app, then type ls, then type rm appname.apk. Freezing the apps with titanium should suffice however.
As for your first question, cm6 is the most popular, stable, and widely supported 2.2 rom. There is cr_mod 2.13 and nb_mod 2.15 which are tmobiles leaked stock 2.2 for the slide. 2.13 supposedly doesn't have swype, while 2.15 does, but 2.15 doesn't have the genius button or visual voicemail stuff. If you want the 2.15 rom, I can walk you through getting genius back, but my phone keyboard is small to type too much on, so I won't go into it now. Arayraymod is simply another aosp rom similar to cm6, except it is built from 2.2 source, so it's his own rom. Some people prefer it because the developer is more "local" to this phone, unlike cyanogen, who develops for tons of phones. 3rd sense, and gratiouslide are just sense ports from other phones, both mostly the same with slightly different tweaks. They are kind of buggy when it comes to the keyboard ? and sym keys, as well as fn and caps lights, but they work mostly. Wifi I think might still be broken on one of them as well, but not positive there. Cyanoginger is just a gingerbread theme to flash over cm6, very well done theme in my opinion, I recommend it if you don't want to try the cm7 builds just yet.
I recommend you try out a bunch of different roms to gather your own opinions and likes/dislikes. Personally, I'm a more stock android type of guy, I use cyanogenmod roms, and I'm currrently running the cm7 nightlies, which run fairly smoothly. Only a few kinks to work out it seems at this point. It all depends on what the user likes though.
Hope all that helped, my thumbs are sore now
Sent from my T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide

[Q] A Crapload Of Questions

So yeah, I have a crapload of questions.
I recently asked about rooting and keeping HTC Sense. In retrospect, I don't think I'll need Sense, I just tried out AppLauncher, and I have to say, I think I'm sold on it. I'm just wondering what exactly HTC Sense has? Is there anything it has that I'll really miss? So far the only thing I can think of is the HTC Sense website for a lost phone, backing up data, and the weather widget/FriendStream...though adding Facebook to HTC sense shows all my contacts in the Phone button which is a huge piss off, but meh.
So that being said, I think I'm about ready to give rooting a shot, but now I've been confused with even more things. And the more I read the more I get confused. Especially where I have to downgrade the firmware, I'm wondering if it's still okay to do this, since the guy at Bell told me if I didn't do / get certain updates I'd have to send my phone back to HTC for repair.
There's stock Android, Cyanogen, and it seems like a million other ROMs. Which is the best to use? If I want total customizability, but also good functionality?
Finally, I'm using a Bell-branded Desire Z on the the Bell network. So Whatever I do will need to work okay with it.
As I've said, I'm totally new to this, and I'm scared to hell of bricking my phone since I just signed a contract and don't to shell out $500 bucks for a new one.
There's just so much info on this forum and it's a bit overwhelming/confusing, not that a lot of info is a bad thing, I'm just lost lol.
EDIT: If anything I wrote seems too rambling or doesn't make much sense please specify that and I'll clarify it.

cant help you root your phone but just follow the instructions that the person who writes the threads say. It's not that easy to brick your phone unless you just completely dont follow directions.
1. Downgrade is perfectly fine, it's to allow you to use a certain method to root your phone.
2. Try out different roms to see what you like, it's like asking whats your favorite video game, how can you really choose, some will agree some wont. I personally like the Miui roms which is the iphonelike and android UI mashup. the apps built in are nice on the eyes, the physics of the phones movement is very smooth, it can oc to 1.5ghz, and you can just download a launcher to replace the original if you dont like it.
3. ask the dev's on the thread if your not sure. i have no idea about bell, but it would seem that it shouldnt have any affect on rooting your phone, just maybe the radio but that is different then rooting or flashing roms.
P.S. you might miss the small things from Sense like, it looks nice, turns on fast, widgets, the dialer to search contact, incoming calls doesnt disrupt navigation, and it's original live wallpaper lol.

So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
I guess more of what I'm asking is just based on people's experiences what the best route to go is. I know there are different tastes, I'm more concerned about reliability, so I'm sure people could help with a ROM choice with that criteria.
So downgrading firmware won't affect phone performance? And can it still be reverted to stock in case the phone needs warranty repair? Just trying to cover all my bases.
And thanks, I'll ask around in the deg thread.

Bloodlvst said:
So are you saying that I can't search by contact in the default phone app? That kind of sucks.
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There are usually apps available that provide Sense functionality to non-Sense ROMs. In regards to the above, you can try DialerOne.

To help you with the ROMs think of them in terms of how different Linux OS's are setup (if you know a bit about this).
You have the base OS's such as Cyanogen. Now some one doesn't like the look of that so they change the Frameworkres.apk to give it defferent colors, transparencies, icons and so on. Now they want a few extra apps to be included in the install so they add them to the /system/app directory or add a /data directory. Repackage it and now they have a custom OS called WINNING ROM (or whatever). These are easy to do and can be completed in a matter of minutes since there aren't any big alterations in the base coding of the OS. This is why you see a lot of ROMs that look like Cyanogens and the developer usually (and should be) states what version of some one elses ROM it's based off of.
Then you have ROMs that tweak certain parameters for speed or add other functionalities to a ROM such as a custom kernel, audio/video codecs, a2ext, compcache/linux swap, and others. Plus a complete custom UI (launcher), port parts of other ROMs such as Sense to work on their ROM, and toms of other things. These take days, weeks, or even months and usually have release cycles and updates. Cyanogen, Virtuous, Enomther, Villain, and a few others make up these ROMs.
Hope that helps with your ROM quest. It can be a bit overwhelming but remember to ask, ask, ask, and then ask some more and also read, at least the OP (original post) and a few pages past that. Some people may get upset and flame you for it but most will be glad to help in any way.

If you flash a non-Sense ROM, you will miss the HTC camera app. Its far and away better than the stock Android one, and I haven't found any Market camera apps that measure up, either. Also, the camera button on the Sense builds seems much more responsive than on CM7.
Also, I'm not sure about this, but the Sense ROMs seem to have better or more hardware codecs for playing a wider array of video formats. Lots of the videos I've tried on CM7 and CM6 are only playable using software decoding (on a variety of players, but RockPlayer is my favorite) and end up super laggy (very low frame rate) and audio way out of sync. On stock Sense and Virtuous, those videos play fine, hardware decoding, silky smooth, and audio in sync.
There are some aesthetic stuff, like HTC does some pretty significant theme changes for Sense, and you will lose customizations like the HTC Skins. And you will lose the HTC widgets (like the clocks) and apps (stocks, weather). But as mentioned, there are lots of Market apps that pretty well simulate many of the Sense apps and widgets, or are very suitable replacements.

Thanks for the detailed replies guys.
KCRic, thanks for list of known ROMs that's basically what I wanted to know, and your Linux flavour comparison helped too
Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
Thanks!

Bloodlvst said:
Redpoint, I'm not sure how often I'd ever use the camera anyway...when I get home I'll have to find some screens of the default camera. That being said, I see your ROM is Virtuous. Is that a Sense-like ROM in case I agree with you on the ca?era app?
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Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
BTW, be sure to click the "Thanks" button if you found responses to be helpful!

ROM LIST
Sense ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
Shokouhi 2.0
Desire S G2 Port Sense2.1
Probably others.
Froyo - Android 2.2
Virtuous
Stock ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
CyanogenMod 7
Stock Gingerbread 1.7
iceandfire 1.7
Pyromod 1.2
GingerVillian 1.5
meXdroidMod
Froyo - Android 2.2
CyanogenMod 6
Others of unimportance now.
The Other ROMS
Gingerbread - Android 2.3
MIUI (The 2.3 one)
Froyo - Android 2.2
MIUI (The 2.2 one)
LiquidVillian (Or whatever it was called.)
I probably just wasted 10 minutes of my life doing this, but meh, it was something to do.
Now to kill myself since I had to listen to Nickelback through it. Damn 4Music.

I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.

redpoint73 said:
I would hardly call CM7 (and ROMs based on it) "Stock".
Although "Non-Sense" is not a very good sounding name for that category, also.
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AOSP Based.
There should be 2 categories. CM Based and AOSP.
But I don't think there are any AOSP ROMs. Which I hate, cos when people say they've built a stock ROM, but it's based on CyanogenMod.

redpoint73 said:
Wow, you don't use the camera? I use it all the time, for those "spur of the moment" snapshots, or to quickly take a pic that I can MMS to a friend or family.
Yes, Virtuous is mostly stock Sense, but with some optimizations and with some extra features added. Its also based on the 1.85 ROM, one of the more recent stock Sense versions.
Guides, links for just about everything you can ever think of is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916431
BTW, be sure to click the "Thanks" button if you found responses to be helpful!
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So I'm guessing no one has cooked up a weird ROM that is like Cyanogen with the Sense camera app lol.
Anywho, I really only have a couple of questions now.
Would you recommend Gingerbread or Froyo? I'm guessing Gingerbread probably runs better / is better than Froyo, but it's hard to say.
Also, how easy is it to restore my phone to factory condition if I need to?
And finally, I read the wiki, it says to make sure I have the windows USB drivers installed...do I just throw those in my windows drivers folder?
EDIT: Wanted to add, the instructiosn for recovering to stock doesn't include the version. So any help there is appreciated.
Or you know, if any of you would be so kind to PM me / add me to IM if you've done this on a Bell phone in Canada that would be awesome too

The drivers go in your Android SDK folder, where ever adb resides. At least on XP and Vista that's the case - I'm not sure if the adb issue was ever resolved in Windows 7. You could always use VM linux or dual boot linux if you like, it's much easier imo. Wubi works too I think.
When it comes to Froyo vs. Gingerbread it's literally like a linux in the sense that one is completely stable and well known by this point (Froyo) an the other is bleeding edge, not stable at times, some things are just not compatible unless you port them, and peoples knowledge base on it isn't as thorough.
I've never returned this phone to stock, which I assume you mean s-on and no superuser permissions. So I have no idea how difficult it is, though I do know you need to make sure you 100% know what you're doing before attempting it - especially if you have s-off. It's a pandoras box if you mess it up.

Ah okay, I'll definitely stick with Froyo for now then. I've always stayed 1 version behidn with Fedora lol.
I did get the drivers working, made my gold card, about to downgrade my firmware.
Are the instructions the same for 1.84.666.2 ?
Edit: Successfully rooted. Now time to find a new ROM. thanks again for all the help. Quesiton though, I have no HSDPA icon anymore...do I need a new "radio" or something?

No, it will do that and some ROMs don't have either the 'H' or the 3G' icon - just depends on the developer. You can still flash a different radio - anyone listed in the G2 radio sticky will work, flash a few and see what works best for you.
There's also a radio version/.ril file issue being debated so you might check that thread too and flash the zip provided just to be safe. I think it's in the G2 questions forum but I can't remember.

[Q] Which rom gives you the most battery life, space, and speed?

Which Android version takes up least space but still give 4g, I'm on froyo and it gives me an H, never seen H before lol and an E when I'm using 2g/edge. What is H?
What do you consider is the best overall version of android to be run on the G2? Doubt ICS will run well since I put it on my G1 and it was very slow and like you needed a "tap"/stylist screen rather than touchscreen.
Froyo, Gingerbread, and Honeycomb roms seem to be the best since they all have flash and HTML5 capabilities.
As for space, on these stock Gingerbread/Froyo there are a plethora of apps that I was never going to use on the phone pre installed, is there a way to uninstall/remove the ones I don't want to free up space? If not, then I would definitely want a rom that takes up little space.
Thanks in advance everyone.
Edit: All the roms I looked at say nothing about radios, for the G1 this was important, didn't know what it's for but followed what they said. Why is there nothing about radio version you need to be on and stuff?
Edit: Also I don't think I want Sense, doesn't look that great.

H = HSDPA = "4G" indicator. It is a feature of G2 GB update.
ICS actually runs well, quite faster than stock GB in my opinion, and I don't see the need to a stylus either.
If what you need is a long battery life, lots of space, good speed then a slim ROM where the developer strip every single unnecessary thing then something like this may meet you need
G2 Slim v1.6 -- OTA 2.16.531.5 NO BLOAT (this includes RADIO OTA 2.16.531.5 if you wonder what is that)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324616
Radio wise: You do not need to worry about it. ROM usually include a safe, latest OTA radio. If you really want to, you may try different RADIO yourself.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
Removing unnecessary apps: Usually developer would remove bloatware already.
If you want to remove more, you can consider something like
The ROM tool box lite
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolbox&hl=en

Great, I am trying out two roms coming from Xboarder 2.4, which only gives me 3g. Is there a way to get 4g/H on roms that disable/remove/don't have it?
The roms I am trying are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350492
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1324616
Couldn't install HyperNoSense ICS 1.5, will try another time.

HyperNoSense is a Sensation ROM. You have an HTC Vision. They're not interchangeable.

If I recall, the stock ROMs were very liberal in their display of "H" or "4G". Moving to custom ROMs I always saw a lot of pinging back and forth between 3G and HSPA+, but its something that never really bothered me as speed tests still showed the same as when I was stock. I'd just run some tests and make sure you are getting good speeds where you are and not nitpick about what data connection the ROM says you have.
That being said, favorite ROMs have been GB based Mexdroid AIO (the older version, not one of the newer) and Andromadus ICS Beta. I never ran many sense ROMs, but Revolution HD ran very smooth when I tested it, and T4Z's Sense 4.0 was nice when testing (T4Z has some good ports all around).

Rom suggestions for a significant other?

Greetings everyone.
I would like to root and install a new ROM on my girlfriend's Incredible 2. Now normally I would experiment myself but since it is not my own phone I will not have the opportunity to go flash crazy and try everything. As such I would like to get some recommendations. The main thing would be speed and stability. I do not know what she has done to her phone I just know that it is stock something. I am also unsure of what root method to use but that is simply due to the fact that I haven't been able to check anything yet. I just want to get some groundwork done before I jump in. She is always using her phone so I figured it would be nice to make her experience more enjoyable. Thanks in advance!
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There wouldn't be something as beast as the Decks reloaded ROM on the Evo would there? That is essentially what I would like to flash for her. Something ridiculously stable that has all the tweaks that I would need to add in. If not just let me know what the most stable rom is and what tweaks I should include as I flash for the lady.

for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps

I love paranood but all the tweaks may overwhelm her. Dkstunnas global cm9 ROM has everything working and is fast, viper ROM is the best sense ROM in my opinion, and I also love gingerbread miui. Tazz patriot and macrodroid also have a nice sense 3.6 ROM named Arctic ascension, which is a little faster than venom but maybe less visually awe inspiring, I also made a descended version of that ROM but it is extremely stripped down (made for speed). All the ROMs I mentioned are completely functional and stable, except paranoid, which the newest version doesn't have a working front facing camera, but watch it, I'm sure chilly will get it worked out, he's a good dev, hope I've given you a small idea of what some of my picks are like...
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Jasonp0 said:
for a good overview of available roms, kernels, radios, tweaks, and s-off guides you might start here
I think you're going to have to use the tacoroot method. that's what I did and I had the most current verizon updates. I just flashed chilly beans pd rom last night and it seems great. incredibly paranoid android I hope that helps
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Kinda outdate post you linked but still a good start ...maybe some one should up date it one day lol
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Are you doing this for her or for you? Does she want it rooted? If not, leave it be. If she is happy with it then adhere to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" line if thinking. If she does want it rooted, which type of rom does she want? Does she like sense and prefer not to have to learn her way around a new type of os? If so, skyraider Zeus is really good. Also, nits has some good gb sense roms. If she wants to try something new cm7 is fast and stable. As Jeremy said, gingerbread miui is great, just be careful with themes. Always backup before changing themes as some of them will lock your phone up and force you to restore a back up. It isn't common but I found several that did it. If she wants everything working with no bugs or random restarts, stay away from ics/jb at least until (if) we get source. If she is daring and can work through those issues without freaking out, the ones Jeremy mentioned are sweet. Pacman is one of my favorite roms ever, I just had some bugs that pushed me away for now. And they may be more phone related than rom. Hope that helps.
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Thanks everyone. From my browsing of this forum i think I will just let her pick between skyraider zeus, team venom, magnolia and Gingerbread miui.
I believe these roms to have a good balance from my quick skimming.
Are these the correct links?
http://www.teambamf.net/topic/1737-romgb-skyraider-zeus-13-inc2-update-11222011/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1383848&highlight=search+this+forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1953899
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162835&highlight=gingerbread+miui

For OP, concur with what others above already said ... search for both speed & stability involved compromises in balancing out on a rooted custom ROM since you are on XDA searching ...
1. There are 2 stock Sense Rom based on VZW's OTA releases, one by AndyBones with additional tweaks/add-ons and a newer one by CS, stripped of bloatware (she isn't going to mess with NFL or CityKids ID, yada yada) Put TB on it and update Play Store, etc. and once it's done updating the Apps, you are good to go - both maintained full GSM functionality and if you get it unlocked officially by Big Red, you can truely made it a global phone, insert a local prepaid Sim card & have inexpensive voice calling rates everywhere instead of using its partner's Vodafone Sim.
2. Next up is the Nit's Stock Sense v5.0.m-ext4, that's highly finished & polished, everything works with numerous options and it is equal to SkyRaider's Zeus v1.3 rom, both can be overclocked for speed in trading off some battery life - still going to give you a full 20 to 30 hours day of heavy use depending on Apps running, and in the case of DW's identical DI2 running SR Zeus, typically 3+ full days of standby with minimal voice calling/SMS and little or no 3G/WiFi browsing. Installed SRZ on her's since it was released 15 months ago and trouble-free, never froze and zero maintenance. I run between Stock Sense v5 and SRZ and still indecisive, switching every so often - especially when I'm traveling as I use GSM bands for non-US local calling, no re-programming or *#*# codes or menu to cycle thru. I keep copies of CWM's backup on the devices and in cloud storage in case of restoration, but it's been good. Update the kernels and to the newer radios once it's running, and you have a trouble-free device, set-n-forget - switched to a smaller (4 x 1) widget for the clock & weather display on the homescreen and I'm happy.
BTW, I have the newest Google Apps like Currents, Play Book & Play Magazine, etc. running on these Roms - when I don't have my true tablet, the Nexus 7 running JB 4.1.2 with me.
3. CM7's is good, simple & fast and good for changing things, haven't "play" with CM9 global ones lately - apparently most of the issues with camera, bluetooth & minor bugs are smoothly out. Tazz/MD's Sense 3.6 ROM is newer and is functional and refreshing - battery life isn't as good as older GB roms, as I recall. Be prepared for minimal tech support for you loved ones.
4. Nit's masterpiece, Team V's Viper Rom is the newest/hottest and best preview of JB/4.x for the DI2, I like it - TB restore from older GB and other roms might or might not work, depending on the Apps, it's best to do a fresh & clean install after full/deep wipe first. If it wasn't for the exclusive CDMA only or GSM only Rom , set by the initial Aroma installation & somewhat "fair" battery life - I would probably use it as my daily. Once (a big IF) HTC & VZW release kernel sources/codes or rollout ICS updates - serious development will resume as everything is now ported over from other/leaked sources. Paranoid's Rom by Chilly looks good, developer's work with the Nexus 7 set a benchmark that's not easy for others to follow/exceed - I haven't check it out myself but I'm sure it's excellent.

Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?

bryyando said:
Thanks for the heads up! She has been complaining about how slow her phone seems to be lately so I figured it was a good excuse to root. I didn't see your post until just now, but those rom suggestions seem great! When I did show her a couple of screens she liked the look of MIUI best. Is the link I posted earlier a stable enough version for her? Or should I be looking at a different thread?
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Miui variants has been around for a long time - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1830675 - I haven't flashed or use one lately since the HTC Eris days, LOL but from the thread posts, it looks good enough for me, if you like it - go for it. Just backup always and if ... just restore or flash a different one, go back-n-forth - trials and errors work for me all the time (well, almost.) Enjoy.

The most stable miui is the gb 1.12.9. I think that is the right number. If you are using clockwork mode go into Rom manager and download it. There are 2, the other is 1.30.9 it something like that. Most people say that one wasn't as stable as the previous build. If you use the gb Rom get Aero's .7 kernel. A lot of people like the ics build but it may have stability issues that someone not wanting to wipe cache or go through fixes would want to deal with.
Maybe it's 1.12.9 and 1.12.30, I don't remember for sure, but you don't want the one with 30 in the number.
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for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902

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for a quick rom you should really try INCREDIBLY('<PARANOID2.19.10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049902
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Not for someone who doesn't want to troubleshoot periodically.
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MRom
Seriously stable cm
It's gb has great battery life (I can go over 2 days with mild usage (tablet does most of my home android stuff and almost all my gaming )
Theme able which is great for customizing it for non nerd users
Plus it's about the only non stock based rom that has rotating lights
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