Im new to all this. i recently got my g2 and i want sense ui.
what are the pros and cons? do irisk breaking my phone (idont got a warranty anyways). is it simple? will it effect certain functions of the phone?
if there is a simple and 100% safe way to root my phone
post a link or let me know wassup with instructions.
thanks.
juniior316 said:
Im new to all this. i recently got my g2 and i want sense ui.
what are the pros and cons? do irisk breaking my phone (idont got a warranty anyways). is it simple? will it effect certain functions of the phone?
if there is a simple and 100% safe way to root my phone
post a link or let me know wassup with instructions.
thanks.
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flash the Desire Z stock RUU?
Nothing is 100% safe. But the Wiki method of rooting is the safest there is, and the risk is low. Just read as much as you can before you start, and follow the instructions very carefully, and you will be fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
As how to install Sense on the phone, the best way is probably to flash the Virtuous custom ROM after you root. Not only one of the more recent Sense Froyo builds (1.85), but also will keep you rooted, comes overclocked by default, and has some cool extra features and optimizations. Installing Virtuous is a snap. After you're rooted, install ROM Manager, flash clockworkmod and make a nandroid backup of your current ROM, then use ROM Manager to flash Virtuous.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837042
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flash the Desire Z stock RUU?
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I believe being S-On (and/or not having SuperCID) will prevent him from flashing the stock DZ RUU onto the G2. I'm sure somebody here can confirm that.
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I believe being S-On will prevent him from flashing the stock DZ RUU onto the G2. I'm sure somebody here can confirm that.
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Not only it will prevent him from Flashing Stock DZ onto G2, he might even end up bricking his phone.
I have G2, rooted, used Virtuous on it with Sense, it was fantastic, but I have never been a fan of Sense ROMs in general, so went back to CyanogenMod and enjoying Gingerbread right now.
Rooting is not rocket science but it does require you to fully understand the method, if you don't, ask questions, read forums and get yourself familiar with before trying and end up bricking your phone.
How to one by one :
First thing you need is Root Access
Try this link
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=TMobile_G2:_Rooting
Or alternatively you can try the links provided by redpoint73.
Once Rooted, first thing you want to do is install ROM Manager from market, search for ROM Manager, check this link if you can't find what you are looking for.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager&feature=search_result
Once installed, open the app, give Root access to the application and Install ClockWorkMod Recovery on your phone(CMW).
Once this is installed you are almost there, between your rooted and cmw installed phone and you flash any sense rom, is to make Nandroid Backup.
Here is how to make a backup of your current/stock ROM. Boot into recovery mod, go to Advanced option, click Backup and sit back and wait for about 5 minutes, system will do a backup of your phone to the SD card. Once done, you are pretty safe, incase if you screw up something, you can go back to original and get your phone back alive.
Once you did the backup, now you can download any ROM you want, flash anything you want and enjoy. One thing you would want to know is S-On and S-Off. S-On means there is a check for the Stock ROM, if you try installing anything with is not made for your career, you will screw up your phone. Once S-Off, you can flash anything and everything available for your phone. Which means, you can install CyanogenMod, you can keep Stock, Install DZ ROM, any ROM you want.
There is a way to Check if your phone gained S-Off or not, it is explained in the link I gave you above.
That's it!!!
Happy Flashing!!!
Edit : Oh by the way, you want to check out some videos available which will help you gain Root access and do other stuff with your phone at this link
http://theunlockr.com/category/howto/android_how_tos/htc-g2-how-tos/
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I believe being S-On (and/or not having SuperCID) will prevent him from flashing the stock DZ RUU onto the G2. I'm sure somebody here can confirm that.
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He is completely right! Another way this can be done is through ROM Manager and flashing a Virtous ROM with enhancements. This ROM is no different from the stock and is completely stable and I can guarantee your safety. But I do still advise setting up a back up just in case you start to not like it. I know I did because, it is to simple but it does look good! Lol
One thing you should worry about is your CID. If your CID isn't one of the standard HTC Vision ones then it wont let you do it unless you've rooted the phone with SuperCID.
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Ok, I really want to root my Evo and install a custom ROM but Im PETRIFIED!
I use to have a motorola droid that no matter what I did to the phone I could (even if it was bricked) restore it with an application made by Motorola. Because of this I had no problem playing around with Roms because I could always "fix" the phone if needed.
So my question is, is there a program that does the same thing for the EVO, where I can restore and unbrick the phone?
Also, can you recommend any custom ROMs to use? Preferably 2.2 if every thing works camera,wifi, bluetooth,4g etc...
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Ok, I really want to root my Evo and install a custom ROM but Im PETRIFIED!
I use to have a motorola droid that no matter what I did to the phone I could (even if it was bricked) restore it with an application made by Motorola. Because of this I had no problem playing around with Roms because I could always "fix" the phone if needed.
So my question is, is there a program that does the same thing for the EVO, where I can restore and unbrick the phone?
Also, can you recommend any custom ROMs to use? Preferably 2.2 if every thing works camera,wifi, bluetooth,4g etc...
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To unroot you need to run the HTC RUU (ROM update utility) You just your phone into your PC and run the EXE. If you have questions about it look at this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7147157&postcount=10
On to ROMs the 2.2 ROM's are moving along pretty well, but they are not 100% as far as I know. As to what to recommend that is all on what you like. Look in the Dev section and find you one like and read about it.
Hope that helps. If not let me know.
Ok, so I can un-root with the RUU utility but will it work if I updated with the recent OTA update?also, if I instal a custom rom will it restore it?
Thanks
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Ok, so I can un-root with the RUU utility but will it work if I updated with the recent OTA update?also, if I instal a custom rom will it restore it?
Thanks
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I personally have not ran the RUU, but people have unrooted even with the latest OTA. I believe
I guess I am not understanding what you mean by if you install a custom ROM will it restore it... If you run the RUU it will put you back to a completely stock state even if you are using a custom ROM. Not sure if that was the question but it was an answer
Yes, there is a way to use the RUU to get you back to complete stock.
You will be fine during the whole process as long as you follow directions, and don't do anything crazy (for example, never do a battery pull in the middle of flashing).
It's fun, you know you want to do it. lol
And also, with the custom recovery, there is a way to restore backups you make along the way
Hey Guys,
im getting a Desire through Telstra tonight, and the first thing i want to do is debrand the thing.
I have read up on some things but still a little confused, can someone point me in the right direction, of 1 how to unlock the phone, root it and the best ROM to install on it.
Much Appreciated
Ok i think i know what im doing now.
One thing though, i just want a normal rom to put on it, just debranded, can anyone recommend me something?
I dont really want custom roms etc
Look in the sticky in rom section, shows the stock roms available. Then you can upgrade to stock 2.2
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ok so if i use this rom
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
Which are not rooted do i still need to root the device etc or can i just use this rom and it will update and remove the telstra stuff?
And is this the latest normal 2.2 Rom?
You need to root to debrand, then put the stock Rom on
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ok no worries ill do that, but is the rom i posted the correct Stock 2.2 Rom i would use in AUS? for the Desire?
Just remember having a goldcard always inserted, while debranding and OTA updating.
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
Widge86 said:
I was gunna do this method, no goldcard needed.
http://myhtcdesire.com/modding/how-to-root-your-desire-easily-method-2
But do i only have to have the goldcard inserted while updating and rooting, then i can remove it?
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HI there,
I used the unrevoked method and this provides "root" and ClockworkMod Recovery. I then initially downloaded [ROM-FroYo] Official Froyo HTC Sense ROM (16/07 v1.0c | OpenDesire Team) link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=726300
The above rom is very much like the standard HTC sense ROM but without the Tel$tra bloatware. Have a good search on xda though as there have been a number of roms (sense like) been released since this one.
I have since moved on to [ROM-FROYO AOSP] OpenDesire v3.6.1 (720P | 2.6.34.5 SVS KERNEL | 1305mhz) (26/08). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712615
This rom is a "vanilla" (plain) version of the android OS and is half the size of the sense ROM, and is clean and fast, but you lose the "sense" interface and the HTC FM radio.
Everything else camera, wi-fi, GPS, phone, etc works perfectly from me.
BTW, all this is on a Tel$ta Desire (A8183) that is 3 months old. I have had no probs at all.
Hope this helps
Thats awesome info great so ill use the guide i posted to Root the device then i can install any ROM i wont, i think ill use the original 2.2 Rom that i posted earlier in the thread
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
Widge86 said:
to confirm even if i want to use a stock HTC RUU rom from the Stock Rom page i still have to Root my device?
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It would be pointless rooting before applying an RUU, as it's not necessary and the flash process will remove root anyway.
That RUU you pointed to will break a Desire with an SLCD screen, so be warned.
Ok so i should just use a hacked rom thats based on the normal one, how do i find out if the phone i have is SLCD?
You can still use an official ROM. Read this for lots of info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=749551
WOW now im even more confused i used to be able to hack my old HTC Touch Pro easily lol.
Ok so i have to hope my Telstra delivered phone is still AMOLED, then i wont have any dramas, to be honest im not much into running a custom rom, id rather just get rid of the telstra crap thats going to be on the phone, but i also do not want to brick it or break the screen in the process.
So if i just use one of the RUU updates in your post you linked me too it doesnt matter if its AMOLED or SLCD i can update to it without rooting?
Ill get the phone first work out if i have SLCD or not, then go from there.
I wont Froyo on my phone and no telstra stuff so i can make a goldcard and update, or if i have a AMOLED phone use the Rooting tool and update to any rooted ROM correct?
You can debrand on any type of screen using the correct RUU. You can root both types too.
If you root you cannot run an official ROM, but you can run something almost exactly the same.
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
Widge86 said:
Which Froyo Rom (rooted) would be the closest to stock?
To Confirm if i have an AMOLED phone i can just update a Stock Non Branded ROM without rooting? By placing the update.zip on the phone and updating using recovery mode?
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hi widge
just go with the flow, unbrand it, root it and play with all the roms, your gonna love it. try em all and see what u like best. I am on nextsense rom 7 at the mo and waiting for the kitchen to open again so i can do some cooking. Tried opendesire a while back and it was pretty mint, may take a lokk at it again myself.
You can't switch to an unbranded rom by using update.zip files, you use an RUU to flash the phone, which requires a goldcard.
To install custom roms you root and install them as zip files in recovery.
You can do both on an SLCD or AMOLED screen, but with an SLCD screen you have to be more careful which RUU you use.
I just rooted my HTC Desire using unrEVOked 3.21. Everything was fine. I had superuser permission and so on.
Than i had a sudden reboots. After reboot the N1 gallery crashed. N1 gallery might have cause the reboots. So i remove it and everything is fine till now.
I wanted to load a custom rom. I boot in to bootloader and notice that its s-on.
My question is can I load custom roms with s-on. How come I'm s-on and I have root access. If everything is fine, than what does this s-on do. I'm new at all this, so please bare with me.
Thank you.
harvin23 said:
I just rooted my HTC Desire using unrEVOked 3.21. Everything was fine. I had superuser permission and so on.
Than i had a sudden reboots. After reboot the N1 gallery crashed. N1 gallery might have cause the reboots. So i remove it and everything is fine till now.
I wanted to load a custom rom. I boot in to bootloader and notice that its s-on.
My question is can I load custom roms with s-on. How come I'm s-on and I have root access. If everything is fine, than what does this s-on do. I'm new at all this, so please bare with me.
Thank you.
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S-Off = Full root ( Not really necessary unless you want to write to system and stuff while in Android. you can also change your splash screen if you would like)
S-On with root by unrevoked = Flash custom roms, radios, kernels, etc..
S-On is Sercurity On which means that the System files are only Read-Only.
S-Off uses AlphaRev's Hboot as this removes S-On. Its the Only way to get S-Off. I just S-Offed myself yesterday. It was scary at first but i really think its a good thing as you can use Metamorph/NinjaMorph or stuff.
I'd recommend just keep this information and when you get used to clockworkmod recovery then S-Off.
Remember that to get into recovery you must boot into Bootloader then scroll to Recovery with the volume up and down buttons then press the power down.
Oh, and to scroll between the clockworkmod menu, just use the trackpad. I also would not ecommend using Rom Manager as i remember the first time i used it and booted into recovery i was scqred to death as it brought me to a attention thing. I was scared to death.
Have Fun
shockem said:
S-Off = Full root ( Not really necessary unless you want to write to system and stuff while in Android. you can also change your splash screen if you would like)
S-On with root by unrevoked = Flash custom roms, radios, kernels, etc..
S-On is Sercurity On which means that the System files are only Read-Only.
S-Off uses AlphaRev's Hboot as this removes S-On. Its the Only way to get S-Off. I just S-Offed myself yesterday. It was scary at first but i really think its a good thing as you can use Metamorph/NinjaMorph or stuff.
I'd recommend just keep this information and when you get used to clockworkmod recovery then S-Off.
Remember that to get into recovery you must boot into Bootloader then scroll to Recovery with the volume up and down buttons then press the power down.
Oh, and to scroll between the clockworkmod menu, just use the trackpad. I also would not ecommend using Rom Manager as i remember the first time i used it and booted into recovery i was scqred to death as it brought me to a attention thing. I was scared to death.
Have Fun
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Thank you so much.. That was really usefull information bro... you mention that my system files are read only with unrEVOked... yday i used root explorer to change some system files... could that be the cause my device rebooted...
another thing i want to know is that i want to install busybox.. do i need s-off to do this... if i ever hard/soft reset will the busybox also be removed...
and i also removed some stock applications... will they also be reinstalled if i reset my HTC desire...
You dont need S-OFF to install busybox. Dont worry about S-OFF. Most power users dont need it. It's more a liability.
Stock apps may be reinstalled with choosing to install a ROM which includes them. Most ROMS have addon files with stock apps. Or you may choose and pick from a ROM Kitchen.
harvin23 said:
Thank you so much.. That was really usefull information bro... you mention that my system files are read only with unrEVOked... yday i used root explorer to change some system files... could that be the cause my device rebooted...
another thing i want to know is that i want to install busybox.. do i need s-off to do this... if i ever hard/soft reset will the busybox also be removed...
and i also removed some stock applications... will they also be reinstalled if i reset my HTC desire...
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No problem Last time when i rooted without S-Off, i tried copying things around the system folders and it never worked. That might and should have been the cause of your reboots. The rest of it has been answered by Droidzone
thanks guys for all the information... i just download a new custom rom and was going to flash it... but there is something bothering me... its the radio... the custom rom has different radio... will the radio change once i install the custom... is there any complications...
what is the things i need to consider before flashing a rom... im really sorry guys but this phone cost RM2000 (Malaysian Ringgit)... i dont want screw it... just taking precautions...
thanks for all the help guys...
harvin23 said:
thanks guys for all the information... i just download a new custom rom and was going to flash it... but there is something bothering me... its the radio... the custom rom has different radio... will the radio change once i install the custom... is there any complications...
what is the things i need to consider before flashing a rom... im really sorry guys but this phone cost RM2000 (Malaysian Ringgit)... i dont want screw it... just taking precautions...
thanks for all the help guys...
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Flashing a ROM is not a big deal. If something happens to go wrong, you can always revert to the Nandroid restore. Custom ROMs often come with different Radios. Just install whichever Radio the developer recommends, and it should go smoothly.
At times a ROM may have different Radios for different functions. Like, if you want the phone running faster, use one radio. If you want more battery life, use another and so on.
If you've already rooted, flashing a new ROM wont create any more trouble than you're already in. Just dont be that hasty to do S-OFF. It's S-OFF that often leads to softbricks (usually).
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Flashing a ROM is not a big deal. If something happens to go wrong, you can always revert to the Nandroid restore. Custom ROMs often come with different Radios. Just install whichever Radio the developer recommends, and it should go smoothly.
At times a ROM may have different Radios for different functions. Like, if you want the phone running faster, use one radio. If you want more battery life, use another and so on.
If you've already rooted, flashing a new ROM wont create any more trouble than you're already in. Just dont be that hasty to do S-OFF. It's S-OFF that often leads to softbricks (usually).
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^^
but ussually i dont really do nandroid restore's because i keep lots of Roms for backup in case one does go wrong. Its best to do both
DO NOT FLASH A NEW RUU OR OFFICIAL ROM IMAGE UNLESS YOU *REALLY* KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING !
Sorry for shouting, but this is very important. Thanks to the mods for making this sticky.
The latest official RUU that has been released - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=870369 - has been found to break the existing methods of rooting and getting full S-OFF.
This shouldn't be a big suprise, because when HTC saw that the amazing devs on XDA had cracked the existing security, we should expect them to put something even tougher in later releases.
So flashing any later release, whether that's an official RUU or just the ROM image (PC10IMG.zip) is a very dangerous thing to do until it has been fully tested and "cleared" by the devs here. i.e. your previously rooted and S-OFF'd phone might lose root and go back to S-ON, and be unable to be rooted and S-OFF'd again.
It's of course fine if your phone came with a particular ROM release to flash that *exact same* release back onto the phone if you want to return to stock. What I'm referring to is flashing a brand new release that isn't the one that came with your phone.
It's fine to flash custom ROMs of course, because those have already been tested out. In general, it's probably best to steer very clear of new official releases, and wait till the devs have pulled them apart and put any cool new stuff into a custom ROM. Then you know it'll be safe to flash.
Currently I don't think it's entirely clear what just flashing a new *radio* on its own will do, as opposed to the entire ROM/RUU. That's still being worked on. But steer clear of even that if you're not sure what you're doing or dont' want to take any chances of losing root/S-OFF.
Thanks for reading
Thanks for the heads up.
I flashed the ROM you mentioned.
For those who want to try:
Just remember to get REAL S-OFF using gfree before flashing it.
This provide you a medicine for regret. You can get back to WWE ROM using WWE RUU and root/recover your old ROM.
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
androidtoy09 said:
What is RUU? What is it to do with ROMs? Did HTC provide a change log for newer Radio? Or does anyone know what changes are , in the latest Radio?
Just to be clear. Don’t flame me for this please. I’m still learning just like many others in here.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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We don't have a changelog, no.
RUU is ROM Update Utility. It's a program to run on Windows (.exe) which flashes your new ROM for you, and holds your hand through the process. It's possible to extract just the ROM zip file from the exe so you can flash it yourself if you want.
The thing about the RUU and stock ROMs is that they will flash pretty much *everything* on your phone. So as well as a new system partition (the main stuff for Android), you'll probably get a new hboot, new radio, new recovery. Those *might* all have increased security which is a lot more difficult to crack. So generally you should not flash it until we know it's "safe" to do so, i.e. it can be re-rooted and S-OFF'd etc.
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Ok, thanks for clearing it up. So, RUU is pretty much similar to the method RIM uses to flash its OS on the Blackberries.
Im a little confused here.. So just to clear some things up i hope someone will answer these questions i have.
I have the software on my Desire Z that it came with (1.34.405.5), which i've rooted, S-off'ed and installed another kernel for OC porpuses. This is working fine, but lets say that i wanted to try another rom .. After some time i decide to go back to the stock software and then update to the newest software, would that be a problem? And has HTC released some newer software than the one iam using?
If you flashed back to stock, that would be fine. But if you flashed a new official update (e.g OTA), then you run the risk of installing something that you can't root/S-OFF.
It is best to steer clear of any official upgrades until they've been checked by the devs here and been given the all-clear.
Given that the phone came with certain areas write-protected, and the devs managed to crack that, we should be expecting HTC to release an even more secure update.
Yes, there is a new ROM out, at the moment for Egypt, that seems to have increased security. It would not be a suprise if HTC rolled out similar security as an OTA update for all existing ROMs. Right now there is something in that Egypt ROM (probably the hboot, at the minimum) which mean existing permanent root and S-OFF methods fail. It may be this is easily cracked again, or maybe it will take some time, who knows.
Bottom line - don't apply any official updates to your phone if it is rooted/S-OFF or you plan to root/S-OFF.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
perm-rooted g2 stock tmobile rom s-off
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
blitz69 said:
ok, my question is....i perm-rooted my g2 and have s-off, does this mean that i cant except the new gingerbread OTA update? ive had my fill of flashing roms with my old windows phone.. att tilt, tmobile touch pro 2, and tmobile hd2. im not looking to flash my g2 with a new rom...no offense to the chefs. love there work. but i only rooted the g2 to get rid of the bs apps that tmobile and google added to the phone. and i thought i heard that wen u root the phone tmobile cant tell wen u tether, so there for no more throttle b/s but thats not true...i must have miss read. but i would like to stay w/the stock rom and still b able to install the Gingerbread OTA. please someone provide an answer for me or point me in the right direction. thank you in advance.... sorry if the answer is already provided somewhere and i over looked it, i tend to do that a lot.
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The trouble is, HTC/T-Mobile don't want you to root and/or S-OFF your phone, because it's a lot easier to end up bricking the phone if you don't know what you're doing. They put greatly increased security on the G2/DZ/DHD when they came out, in order to help prevent this.
Now this security has been cracked, we can expect HTC/T-Mobile to try and increase security even further (e.g. closing loopholes that let our current methods of root/S-OFF work) in future updates.
So if you accept any future OTA, you run a high risk of accepting something that will lock you out of root and S-OFF, at least temporarily, and possibly permanently (depending on how good a solution they come up with).
If you are not bothered about root/S-OFF, then that's fine of course.
This doesn't mean that you necessarily have to switch to a custom ROM to get updates though. If you stay with the stock ROM (and I'm still on a stock ROM too right now), then just do not accept the update when an OTA comes out, and keep checking these forums to see when the devs say that they can root/S-OFF with the new version. When they say it's ok then you know you can apply the update and still get root/S-OFF.
This already happened with the G2. Very soon after release, but after rooting had been achieved, there was an OTA. Most people here decided to wait until the OTA had been looked at, and sure enough there was a small adjustment needed to the rooting method. But of course this OTA was before HTC had a chance to respond to the cracking of the security, so as I said, any future updates may well require a lot more time and effort from the devs to investigate and crack again.
Ok. Thank you very much
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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What do you mean with gfree?
Is my waranty broken When i execute radio s-off?
Is it possible to make it radio s-on?
Yes,warranty is broken,but with the new gfree method
you can go back to S-ON:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
ericjosepi said:
Will this muff up my phone if I factory reset it by using the Power+Volume Down option?
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If you do a factory reset then I think you'll lose root, but you can get it back again easily enough. The issue for this thread is flashing new updated stuff from HTC etc.
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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You might still need that backup, e.g. if you don't know what your old CID was and you want to un-do that bit too. I would keep it.
Sorry I don't think I understand your last question though, or why you say the uberroot method (I'm personally not keen on that name, it's just the usual method using Visionary/rage with gfree, not a new method) doesn't work.
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
If you are only interested in permanent root you only need radio S-OFF and then it is sufficient to use
# ./gfree -s off
instead of
# ./gfree -f
in the following commands.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON by using the "-s on" option and to change the CID back to the original value be using i.e. "-c T-MOB010" if you want or have to go back.
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But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Thanks for the advice, I will stick myself with the current rom for a while
Ganii said:
Ok,so I can go back to S-ON with gfree commands from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
But for CID (you mean SuperCid right?) I need the backup?
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Yes, I mean to go from your SuperCID back to your regular CID. You might not know what your original CID was.
And with the last question which you don`t understand,I mean
with flashing the HTC RUU 1.34.405.5 I don`t go back to S-ON
and original CID whether I use UBERROT method or this from here:
(Rooting the Vision (G2/DZ) and DHD)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
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Yes, if you flash a stock ROM then it won't affect your S-OFF and CID status (or SIM unlock). These are stored in your radio configuration partition, and not in any of the partitions which are overwritten by the ROM flash.
dear fellow G2 users,
seek your patience & expertise to guide me on unrooting (i think i rooted?) my Desire Z, & reverting to my original ROM. have tried search Google & XDA, but got no clues where to pick up.
basically, my "rooting" involves installing the Superuser.apk (if you call that rooting). ROM is still original, & the only non-official stuff i installed was ClockModRecovery.
purpose to unroot is for my phone to receive the official HTC update.
would very much appreciate if the community here can point me in the right direction or guide me step-by-step.
thank you in advance.
What method did you do to gain root? If you want try one of the custom roms? There is rooted roms that are updated to current and are close if not fully stock jus difference they have root privilages
I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
djfoo000 said:
I don't think you are rooted. If rooting is as easy as installing Superuser.apk we won't be hearing about phones that are unrootable.
Install 'Root Checker' from Market to verify if you're indeed rooted, which I doubt considering the steps you've taken to root.
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Yeah, pretty sure your not rooted if that's all you have done
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
thanks fer the replies! much appreciate.
ok the root checker works both ways:
1) if i grant Root Checker access under Superuser.apk to verify if i'm rooted, it says yes i'm rooted.
2) if i deny Superuser access, it says not rooted.
how do i proceed on from here?
thanks fer your patience once again!
So you just installed superuser, and then you where able to grant superuser permissions and flash a rom with clockworks? Did you buy your phone used by any chance? Cuz it boggles my mind how you could do that without a proper rooting
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
hey there delirious,
i got it as a used phone with superuser installed by the previous owner. but that's about what he did.
the rom is still original, neither custom nor modified.
the clockwork is just the clockworkrecovery only.
Well if you never rooted in the regular way, then it just doesn't seem possible that you have root. If you where to uninstall cloockworks and superuser than your phone should be the same as before you installed them. You could do a factory reset after uninstallng, then do a root check. After all that, you can feel same updating. Unless you have removed some system files. But I don't think you can do that without s-off
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
But you should double check with the seller, just to make sure he didn't do anything else
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Edit: what does your phone say when you boot into recovery?
i tried factory reset, the superuser still exists, so do the clockworkrecovery. this is what is preventing me from receiving the official updates.
it says clockworkmod recovery?
Okay, you have to be rooted some way. Talk to the seller and see what he did. And in recovery, do you have s-off, or s-on?
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
The more I think about this the more it seems your phone has had the visionary app's perm root option used on it. I have to stress that this app is not the most stable when it comes to perm root, and there has been lots of phones bricked from it, that might be why the seller neglectedto meantion it. I used it back when I first rooted and your phone sounds just like mine was. Superuser permissions but no s-off.
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
ok i screwed up & did a dumb move.
i followed this guide: www[dot]addictivetips[dot]com/mobile/how-to-unroot-t-mobile-g2-htc-desire-z-complete-guide/
it installs the stock_rom half & says failed due to file error.
upon reboot, it shows the T-Mobile G2 logo & stock Android.
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
alternatively, since i'm pretty much stuck in T-mobile now, could you guide me through on flashing one of the custom ROMs instead? or stock rom, whichever is easier.
much appreciate!
I need to know if you have s-off before I will try to walk you through any rom flashing
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
Oh, and I have no clue where to find the desire z Asia stock rom.sorry
Sent from my 'SilverBullet' HTCDesireZ running CM7
no worries, you are willing to guide me through custom rom flashing that's good enough =D
ok using the T-mobile G2 bootloader, it brings me to this. first line:
Vision PVT Ship S-Off
Hboot-0.85.0005
Microp-0425
Radio-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-Boot
will this help to tell you if i have S-OFF?
Yes, s-off means everything! It also means whoever sold you the phone lied to you... but that's okay, rooted phones are better but anyways, what kind of rom do you want to install? Take a look through the development section for the g2/desirez to get a idea of what's available. I would personally recommend cyanogenmod7. But it's personal preference really.
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xxkidxx said:
where can i find the official stock ROM for Desire Z Asia?
i found this webbie: shipped-roms[dot]com/index[dot]php?category=android&model=Vision
but not sure which is the rom to pick.
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Pick the one that says "Asia", then HK = Hong Kong, TW = Taiwan, India = you can figure that out. Other Asian countries is WWE (worldwide English). As far as the version, 1.34, 1.82, etc. The higher numbers are more recent. But anything above 1.34 is not rootable.
But if you flash any of the official ROMs, you will lose root. ROM versions 1.34 or lower can be re-rooted.
If you only intent is to get the Gingerbread OTA, I'd say don't bother going back to stock. The OTA will be posted here when its released. And probably in a pre-rooted form soon after.
If you want a custom ROM, it depends on what you are looking for interface-wise (Sense, AOSP, MIUI), Froyo vs. Gingerbread, etc.
If you want a custom ROM similar to stock Sense, then Virtuous is the way to go. Its based on the Sense Froyo 1.85 ROM, but rooted, overclocked to 1 GHz (with other options available), and a few other cool options. But mostly stock beyond that.
thanks Delirious and redpoint for your valued inputs!
redpoint: ah, didn't know stock rom has so much limitations nowadays. wanted the original ROM so that i can update my phone. since can't root now, might as well go fer custom.
Delirious: sure, i go with Cyanogen. kindly walk me through it. much appreciate!
a problem i noted though with the T-Mobile G2 (it was originally a Desire Z), i can't access my 3G or Wi-Fi. so downloading apps are out of the question.
i do have clockworkmod already installed if that helps, but its not the latest version.
just an update, i managed to switch back to Desire Z using someone's Nandroid backup.
its still rooted, thought can you tell me how to check for the s-off thingy?
so i think i'm all set for flashing to Cyanogen (i think).