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HTC Vogue/Sprint's Touch by HTC forum?

Sprint launched their version of the HTC Touch, also known as the HTC Vogue. This is a different phone than the HTC Elf.
Will Xda-developers start sub-forums for the Vogue soon?

Seconded!!!

Thirding this, a Vogue subforum would be pretty great. It's probably my next phone.

I just ordered the Sprint Tilt (aka HTC Vogue) yesterday and was thinking the same thing.
My Paypal dollars are ready to be donated if someone gets the gps unlocked

jeffx said:
I just ordered the Sprint Tilt (aka HTC Vogue) yesterday and was thinking the same thing.
My Paypal dollars are ready to be donated if someone gets the gps unlocked
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Fourth, holding my Touch right now, it's a beauty. I'll also be more than happy to donate and test anything that gets my gps unlocked.

I'm a happy Kaiser (well,Tilt...) user, but my girlfriend has a Vogue arriving tomorrow, so consider this her vote by proxy.

'me too'
-m

Vogue forum please!

I agree that there should be at least one seperate subforum for this. The device has some features and the looks of a gsm touch, but it's much different from an elf on the inside.

yes new forum for CDMA Touch please. it is a great phone i just switched from the p4000 and am not looking back.

Any love on this front?

Yes new Vogue forum please!!!!

Recent ruling.....could this help??
Yes please consider a new Vogue forum.
This was a result of a recent lawsuit.
Sprint said it will share the unlocking code with all current and former subscribers once their phones are deactivated and their bills are paid. The company also will add information about the locking software and how to obtain the unlocking codes in the list of terms and conditions of service given to new customers, and instruct its customer service representatives on how to connect a non-Sprint phone to the Sprint network.
I plan on getting the Vogue if it can be modified and have programs loaded into its rom. Otherwise I would just get the T Mobile wing. Any suggestions?

Any love on this?

Well, until XDA Developers does something about it, PPCgeeks.com has a pretty good forum
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=48
Even though it says it is for the HTC ELF, it is almost nothing but HTC Vogue/Sprint Touch talk. In fact, someone just posted a ROM unlocker and supposedly, there is going to be a custom ROM posted very soon.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=12255

I was just about to PM a moderator about this to.
Not only are the phones coming available.
Also some roms for these phones are popping up in the ELF threads.
I extracted some of these but there's big (Small actually, just the Pagepool and rom Size) differences and i foresee a lot of people trying to flash them anyway. Resulting in phones that run out of memory in no time.
And to be totally honoust i haven't seen a lot of Moderators popping up in the Elf threads to.
The Elf's grown up. It's getting pretty busy. Just now it's finishing second in Users viewing posts right now. After the Artemis, that has a lot more experienced users. And i won't see the steady band on elf thread jumping to a new Touch version anytime soon.

Noonski said:
I was just about to PM a moderator about this to.
I extracted some of these but there's big (Small actually, just the Pagepool and rom Size) differences and i foresee a lot of people trying to flash them anyway. Resulting in phones that run out of memory in no time.
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Not that I am completely in the know or anything, but I would figured that the Radio Rom would be different since the ELF is GSM and the Vogue is CDMA. Also, the chipsets are different. I wouldn't think that either phone's rom would run on the other.

Hi. I'm a new member, introduction

Hi. My name is Joe and I just signed up here within the last few days. So I want to take this time and introduce myself to you all.
I live in Washington state of the U.S. 15 minutes South from down town Seattle. My wireless providor is Verizon.
I'm not sure why but ever since I went to see Depeche Mode August 10 and I lost my phone I have become interested in phones. It took me loosing mine to become really interested lol. So since about August 12 I have been researching phones to replace my lost one. I have learned a little along the way and I hope to keep learning.
Well I hope to get to know some of you as friends online and I hope I can keep learning and eventually in some way help others.
Joe

Welcome to forums
I strongly recommend you to read deeple the Wiki
Read, search, respect and enjoy!

Thanks. What doyou mean deeple the wiki?

i think he means that make sure you read all the information that you look for through wiki site before asking too much question

Welcome to forums
I like make friends.

Welcome and have fun on XDA! Happy Flashing!!

Welcome to our beloved forums..
I live in Pandaan, (Malang - East Java) Indonesia
Part_D

Hi buggs1a !
Welcom to the Site. I hope you'll learn a lot, and then you'll be capable to get a nice WM device and flash it at your convenience.
For everything you need, first step is reading the stickies in the top of forums, and the Wiki (that's the place where you can search into an encyclopaedic mode of the forum, where people posted articles about "what is" or "how to")
And I hope to find you at the Kaiser section, flashing ROMs and sharing what you enjoy. - yes, that would mean you finally get a kaiser or Tilt as your new phone.

buggs1a said:
Hi. My name is Joe and I just signed up here within the last few days. So I want to take this time and introduce myself to you all.
I live in Washington state of the U.S. 15 minutes South from down town Seattle. My wireless providor is Verizon.
I'm not sure why but ever since I went to see Depeche Mode August 10 and I lost my phone I have become interested in phones. It took me loosing mine to become really interested lol. So since about August 12 I have been researching phones to replace my lost one. I have learned a little along the way and I hope to keep learning.
Well I hope to get to know some of you as friends online and I hope I can keep learning and eventually in some way help others.
Joe
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Welcome to XDA mate. As Orb stated above I would advise you to check out the wiki for your particular device and read the stickies in your phone forum (top few threads in each forum - called stickies due to them being stuck at top of forum, and they are usually filled with useful info)
Also, moderators are here to assist, so feel free to ask a moderator for help if needed
Rick

CDMA Hero Devs have a Working AOSP FroYo ROM - Port?

Can a dev port it over?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686893
We don't want to be behind the CDMA Hero...

now that would be great, but tbh we've been behind the CDMA hero for ages lol

Arrgh! At villainrom they're almost ready to release a 0.1 version of Froyo for GSM Hero! But...COME ON! They keep saying they can't get the mic working...When on CDMA EVERYTHING works except for GPS and Camera (the same problems we had with the first 2.1 cooked roms). I really hope they decided to release an ALL-WORKING version...Otherwise...I don't know what to think...

No Devs want to work together.
So they always can not get everything working at the sametime.

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rm post

Froyvillaino.1 we have been waiting for since just after robin ported n1 FR50...Prepare to wait a whil elonger i think!

I am working on a Cronos Froyo build also. Fully compiled from the 2.2 sources.

I, I, I...Guys I really don't want to shoot out advices...But it wouldn't be so bad if you all share your efforts to create a unique solution a.k.a. ROM! I really believe in the team-work!

Check that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561&page=6#post6972487

Teamwork!
mardurhack said:
I, I, I...Guys I really don't want to shoot out advices...But it wouldn't be so bad if you all share your efforts to create a unique solution a.k.a. ROM! I really believe in the team-work!
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I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!

42turkeys said:
I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!
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I second that

can i install this cdma rom on my gsm hero, without breaking it and use it in the netherlands?

samm000 said:
can i install this cdma rom on my gsm hero, without breaking it and use it in the netherlands?
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The rom it links to is FOR CDMA HEROS.
Your Hero is A GSM HERO.
DO NOT FLASH IT!
Never flash a rom if it's not for your phone. Sorry to shout but this is the No. 2 cause of bricking (Behind impatient users during radio flash)

42turkeys said:
The rom it links to is FOR CDMA HEROS.
Your Hero is A GSM HERO.
DO NOT FLASH IT!
Never flash a rom if it's not for your phone. Sorry to shout but this is the No. 2 cause of bricking (Behind impatient users during radio flash)
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thnx a lot!!!
i'm happy you shout becouse i have be warned now

Here's hoping this will have the answer to getting the mic working...

42turkeys said:
I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!
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Teamwork means NO competition. Here its all about competition - who will be the 1st to release most stable, coolest, capable ROM on xda. Its like a gang wars.
edit: and I like it, have more ROMs to try

whitealien said:
Teamwork means NO competition. Here its all about competition - who will be the 1st to release most stable, coolest, capable ROM on xda. Its like a gang wars.
edit: and I like it, have more ROMs to try
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I like the competition, what I'm taking about is devs getting together to get froyo running, then splitting off to make their own roms.

I think the devs can better work alone and share their work so other devs can play with it and make things better. We're saying that a community rom is better, but we havent seen one? There are tons of official 2.1 roms here, who needs all those. A froyo rom is much more interesting and as you can see, the cdma guys are really far, and maybe you, devs, can port it. Good luck.

thing is - if nobody has gotten the mic working yet, then nobody will get it working if they sit together and try to figure it out.
I would think it's like that anyway.
I know that more minds working together are better than fewer. however the mic not working cant' be a simple problem if nobody has worked it out yet. I know that not all rom builders are actually programmers - many are just really comfortable with computers and with the linux os and so on. but still, with source code available, a programmer who's comfortable with that source code (and I acknowledge that I'm not - and I'm a middle aged senior software developer... but much of the android source I've glanced through so far is unreadable to me LoL...).. anyway, so if a programmer who's comfortable with that code could peruse it for a while they might well be able to solve the problem. But what I really expect is that it will take google releasing a working mic library for froyo for hero gsm piece of the puzzle somehow - maybe an internal google person building it for the community and releasing it anonymously, that has happened in the past I would guess.
so it could take time.
but maybe some genius with the android source like cyanogen will take the time and have the know how to solve the mystery. surely the hero is the #1 android phone still out there...
judging from the community here it seems really popular still.
and to think, I just got a hero a few months back (and one for my wife) because they were only $25 at future shop when we renewed our accounts and we wanted iphones but couldn't afford them LoL
if I'd known anything about android then I'd have been all over these babies without a second thought - instead I had to research and took a leap of faith that the future shop guy was steering us in the right direction (thank you future shop guy - or I mean, former future shop guy (he doesn't work there any more)!
cheers

Froyo

Why can't we have Froyo yet already???? What's the hold up? By the time, we get it... 3.0 will be around the corner...

Yours doesn't have it?

Yep. I have it
Sent from my Evo on on the Now network from Sprint
oh and duck Apple

I'm not talking about hacked custom roms.. I'm talking about offical release from HTC. I want Froyo that is fully function including 4g

you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G

Hairongreenfire said:
you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.

jefftse said:
I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.
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long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.

Veritas06 said:
"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.
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Cyanogen's mod, while amazingly awesome, has problems. There are missing features, inconsistencies between what works and what doesnt from user to user, and it's AOSP.
HTC has to make EVERYTHING work for EVERYONE all the while porting over their sense UI. All of their apps and widgets need to work on Froyo. It needs to be stable. This sort of thing realistically can take months to perfect. So don't be butthurt when you don't get it til Christmas.
I personally can't stand Sense... or any other UI put on top of android. But as long as I can root and boot up custom roms, I'm a happy camper.

uhh isn't google suppose to be the one releasing froyo since they are the makers of android os not htc? i thought htc was just the hardware

google only releases it for nexus one
they then release froyo source then hardware makers like htc and motorola use the source along to build their versions with either sense or blur

Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."

I'm very happy with the Froyo I already have. I see 4G as a totally useless feature due to its extreme battery drainage.

Bielinsk said:
Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."
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Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.

youngdhillon said:
Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.
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Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.

basically,
Froyo (aka: Android 2.2) has been released by it's maker. it's maker is Google. HTC gets licensing to install the OS on it's phones. now, when HTC first started working with Android...android was..well...it was lacking...it was lacking a fair bit. so the HTC devs put some 'Sense' onto android to make it something that the nerds can bring to their corporate executives. (cause if we nerds can't sell the boss on how cool this is...then i don't get to play it.) meanwhile, Google is trying to turn Android into a serious market contender. and its going up against some very mature code. this has a side effect of causing Google to release v1.5, v1.6, v2.1 and v2.2 rather close to each other. this is not a sustainable pace of release...it will piss everyone off. thankfully Froyo supposedly will be able to bridge us over until v3.0. at which point google has said they will proceed with a much slower version relase of Android.
Sense is not needed like it used to be. however, it'll prolly be around for a while. htc has said they will release froyo onto the evo but that is not a priority for them...the evo is yesterdays product so its more important getting the upcoming devices ready for market. perhaps the HTC/Sprint sanctioned Android 2.2 will be released by the end of the 4th quarter (or so they say).
on the good note...CM6 is rather nice. even without having 4G running yet. but really, how often do need to turn on the 4G radio? and they will get it working before long.
i must also agree w/ Bielinsk on this one....
Bielinsk Originally Posted by youngdhillon
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
Today 03:54 PM​

This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?

kevinb99 said:
This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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Check out Avalaunchmods Froyo ROM with Sense. He released an RC for it today and hopes to have a couple of little issues fixed tonight. He has a Sense and no-Sense ROM available. He's put a lot of work into them and i'll be checking out the Sense ROM for sure tonight. Probably bounce back and forth between the CM6 that i'm using now and Ava's Sense ROM.

kevinb99 said:
This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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I respect your desire for Sense, however, I see no Sense in it.

Bielinsk said:
Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
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maybe because all the phones i buy are android os...and you really have way too much time on you're hand to flame someone over such a little thing...all i asked was "isn't froyo suppose to be released by google and not htc" if you don't wana answer it then leave it alone...noone wants to hear your history crap...Noone wants to know how you read every nutrient fact before buying milk or read every little thing that's on the charging adapter...maybe you have time all the time in the world to do that and all the power to you but not everyone is like...we actually have a life and don't learn the history of every little thing we purchase...and fyi forums are made to ask questions and to inform each other...so if you don't like someones question instead of flaming simply don't read it and move on.

HTC Desire now on Cellular South

Hey guys
So here is the deal. Cellular South has just released a CDMA version on the Desire. I plan on picking one up very soon. Until then I am trying to find out if any devs would help me port a desire rom for use on a my network. Please contact me through pm or this thread as I will frequent it. I have no prior knowledge of porting roms for use on different devices. I am assuming I will be able to root the same way I did with my Hero as they are probably similar in that aspect. I would love to be active in this process and hopefully learn something that I can take to the next level and give back to this great community that I have had the please of being a member of for the past year. Anyway I'm starting to ramble. If this is a feasible task please help point me in the right direction.

OBSt4l0n said:
Hey guys
So here is the deal. Cellular South has just released a CDMA version on the Desire. I plan on picking one up very soon. Until then I am trying to find out if any devs would help me port a desire rom for use on a my network. Please contact me through pm or this thread as I will frequent it. I have no prior knowledge of porting roms for use on different devices. I am assuming I will be able to root the same way I did with my Hero as they are probably similar in that aspect. I would love to be active in this process and hopefully learn something that I can take to the next level and give back to this great community that I have had the please of being a member of for the past year. Anyway I'm starting to ramble. If this is a feasible task please help point me in the right direction.
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You should be able to use unrevoked 3.2 to root and install any cdma desire roms. which opendesire is the only one right now, and its still got the backlight and oj problem.
its the same phone as far as i know as USCC released last month.

purezero said:
You should be able to use unrevoked 3.2 to root and install any cdma desire roms. which opendesire is the only one right now, and its still got the backlight and oj problem.
its the same phone as far as i know as USCC released last month.
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It is the same as my US Cellular desire, so everything that we can use, you can use.

thanks guys for your quick answer. real quick question though as i cannot find an exact answer. what are those two issues please explain