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I'm expecting delivery of T-Mobile HTC Desire soon.
I have chosen this phone over HTC HD2 on a 7 day trial basis.
I know of the issue concerning bluetooth voice dialing on android phones and I am prepared to accept that there might or might not be a solution eventually.
I am a user of Thunderbird and use a program called Birdiesync for use with Windows Mobile phones. It just works 100%.
It seems to sync Thunderbird calendar and email will be fine on Desire, but I'm not so sure about thunderbird and contacts. For me most of my 500 contacts have postal addresses which are important to me, whereas only a small % have email addresses. It seems Thunderbird and Google contacts are handled differently and the few Thunderbird addons that exist for this issue are not 100%. Certainly when it comes to maintaining the structure of postal addresses.
Lastly I use a piece of software called SKScheMa 1.2.17 on Windows Mobile. This allows me to create a script that turns on bluetooth when phone is on charge and turns it off when phone taken off charge. I like this because when I get out of my car and go to a customers front door I don't want the phone still connected to the car bluetooth system. this software handles this for me. QUESTION: Does juicedefender handle this or can anyone else suggest another app.
It seems I am expected to give up quite a lot of functionability to move over to the Android platform, but I do believe it is/will be the OS of choice in the future.
Feedback and help would be most gratefuly received.
You almost always lose functionality when you move from Winmo, but you gain a nice interface and more fun apps. Eventually android will cover the short fall, it just depends how long you can wait.
The issue with the Desire v HD2 is not just software though. As nice as the AMOLED on the Desire is, the size of the HD2 is compelling. There really is no contest for picture and movie viewing. Some like the saturation level on AMOLED screens, but its much less natural than the LCD on the HD2, its just over saturated. Its not such a big deal on a phone i guess, but some pictures and videos do look quite wrong. I put both through a calibration using the gear i had for my Plasma and i can tell you the blacks on the AMOLED are great, but the colours are WAY WAY off. The HD2 is much better despite only being 65k colours.
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I'm not too sure if Android is for me to be honest.
I am fed up with poor battery life on every single Winmo phone I have ever owned. I use about 1500mins of tak per month. I really do need MS Voice Command, couldn't care less about playing mp3's watching vids etc. I like to be able to surf net and send and recieve emails. Because of my usage i will always be offered top spec phone for free. I just fancied a change, but even prior to delivery I may have to accept the fact that this latest phone is gonna have to be yet another HTC winmo phone that comes with an old platform, poor battery life etc. I may just need to wait another 18 months of contract before moving over to Android. I'm not too sure what winmo 7 will bring or lack or even if it will be available from here for the HD2
Although I am yet to get the Desire in my hands, it seems everything about the OS is a workaround to get the most basic of features working in a fashion that I am used to. The ability to sync contacts/email and calendar should just work. I just don't get it! Perhaps thunderbird is the problem, but I am not prepared to use Outlook. I use portable thunderbird on my main drive, and this allows you to copy the whole thin over onto a USB stick and use anywhere if required. hats just not possible with Outlook.
The HD2 is a great phone if you want compatibility with Office apps and the like. The screen is awesome and (if you use a custom ROM) bettery life is more than acceptable (2 days with moderate use).
BUT the Desire is a better all round phone out the box. I had to cook my own ROM to get my HD2 how I wanted it. I've not touched a thing on the Desire since I got it.
Perhaps you can help me then.
I really would love to be able to have bluetooth on when unit is on charge and off when not. Does anyone know of an app that does it. Does Juicedefender?
Whilst I may not have to meddle with the Desire it just might be beacuse nothing I want it to do for me is actually available.
1. No bluetooth handsfree voice dialing
2. No apparant flawless syncing between Thunderbird and Android platform
3. No bluetooth on when on charge and off when disconnected.
Whilst I fully understand my requirements may not be on the forefront of many mainstream users, they are hardly so obscure to be not available.
I just don't get it. I know the Android platform is the future, but perhaps for me I need to wait.
I'll give it the 7 days and see if the experience is so great that I'm prepared to give up the proper functionability I have come to expect from a phone.
I had the same dilema... HD2 or Desire..
I've got the Desire but it's going back to orange today... Don't get me wrong it's a good phone but the main things I use my phone for just don't work as well as in my winmo diamond... so, i'm getting the HD2 - I stream a lot of video/mp3s with myplayer, skyfire (tvactchup) and also use fpsece a lot on my diamond but the experience i've had with video streaming on the desire is'nt great.. I know they'll get it right when Full Flash is released later in the year (10.1? is it?) but I'm a bit impatient and I can't wait till then.
I've also tried Xdandroid on my diamond and although it's not perfect I should be able to run Android on my winmo device anyway - so that's made my mind up.
I've had my HD2 for about 6 weeks now, and I'm fed up with it. I have loads of issues with it, but the big ones are:
- Constantly crashes (dialer app mainly - I've tried various ROMS with no luck)
- On screen keyboard is useless
- Internet links impossible to hit cleanly every time, even when zoomed in.
- Smooth scrolling of menus/web pages is impossible
- Lack of a proper "App Store"
- No upgrade path to Win Phone 7
- Confused, counter intuitive UI layout (Window's fault)
- Phone is so large its difficult to hold/operate with one hand.
My wife took delivery of her Desire yesterday, and I'm jealous, although it has reminded me that the HD2 has a lovely *big* screen in comparison.
Desire first impressions:
- On screen keyboard is a delight to use
- Internet links are easy to click
- Nice smooth menu action
- Well thought out, intuitive UI
- Sits nicely in the palm, easy to use one handed
In terms of battery life no smart phone is especially good. I dont think you really lose or gain anything by switching to another OS if the hardware spec is basically the same.
Get both! haha
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Lyrrad said:
Perhaps you can help me then.
I really would love to be able to have bluetooth on when unit is on charge and off when not. Does anyone know of an app that does it. Does Juicedefender?
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I'm pretty sure that Locale does this on the market, and I believe there are plenty of others too but I can't remember off the top of my head.
I would never go back to WinMo even if someone gave me the latest handset.
ritdaw said:
I'm pretty sure that Locale does this on the market, and I believe there are plenty of others too but I can't remember off the top of my head.
I would never go back to WinMo even if someone gave me the latest handset.
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Okay I have also been told that Tasker does it too.
Now I need to be convinced about syncing with Thunderbird properly. Calendar seems fine, and email is easy for me. It's just how contacts are handled. I use postal addresses a lot and I pride myself on the fact that I have over 600 records all properly set out below.
Address
City
State
Postal Code
Home Tel
Mobile Tel
Work Tel
Very few of them have an email address.
Android/Google seems to require an email address so all of my contacts now seem to require a bogus email. That's ok, but Google also seem to want to handle the address more a a note than anything else, and it does not seem to look nice on my PC. How it looks on my phone will be the make or breaking point for me.
I personally like the desire over the HD2, the one thing that annyoed me about the HD2 was the screen problems and having to keep on sending it back to HTC until you finally got one that worked.
Apart from that the wm6.5 and the phone itself was spot on, the HTC Desire on the other hand has not been rooted yet but is damn fast, if not faster than the bulky WM. The only down side to the desire for me are the keys at the bottom of the device.
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Android/Google seems to require an email address so all of my contacts now seem to require a bogus email. That's ok, but Google also seem to want to handle the address more a a note than anything else, and it does not seem to look nice on my PC. How it looks on my phone will be the make or breaking point for me.
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A large number of my contacts just have phone numbers and no email addresses. I tried creating a new contact with just a name and it work. Am I miss-understanding what you are trying to do?
Also setting profiles lite/pro probably handles the disabling and enabling of bluetooth.
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A large number of my contacts just have phone numbers and no email addresses. I tried creating a new contact with just a name and it work. Am I miss-understanding what you are trying to do?
Also setting profiles lite/pro probably handles the disabling and enabling of bluetooth.
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I'm not too sure if this is a Thunderbird issue. I use thunderbird over Outlook because you can instaal Portable Thunderbird onto your hard drive rather than a USB drive. Portable thunderbird by it's very nature does not install anything into your registery. Therefore it is possible to copy it in it in full at any given time on to a USB stick and then you are walking around with all of your details to be used plugged into any PC. I suppose if I were to really sit down and think about this option it may well be redundant if I am prepared to use Google. However my way of thinking at the moment is to use google as nothing more than a server between my Android phone and my email client.
All I know is that the Thunderbird addons do not seem to be flawless.
I need to get the phone and experiment.
I really would like it to work.
No Voice Command or anything that offere bluetooth handsfree voice dialling was all I thought I was giving up by moving to Android. However that may not be the case.
Does anyone else have issues using the Ford SYNC Services with their Droid? Everything pairs fine and I can make and receive calls as well as stream music via BT. However, if I try to use their "services" option to check traffic or get directions it will dial in and then when I get to a point where it tries to locate me but just freezes and never completes the task.
Both my wife and I have only had this issue once we bought the Incredible. Our previous phones were the Palm Pre and it never had this issue.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Does anyone else have issues using the Ford SYNC Services with their Droid? Everything pairs fine and I can make and receive calls as well as stream music via BT. However, if I try to use their "services" option to check traffic or get directions it will dial in and then when I get to a point where it tries to locate me but just freezes and never completes the task.
Both my wife and I have only had this issue once we bought the Incredible. Our previous phones were the Palm Pre and it never had this issue.
Any help would be appreciated.
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I just logged in to post this same issue. So yes I am having the exact same issue. I'm heading over to syncmyride.com to see if there is anything there.
This may be related to limitations with the Bluetooth implementation on the Incredible. I had problems (and crashes) trying to use my Incredible with a Bluetooth GPS device. When I called HTC support, they told me that HTC can only recommend connecting to Bluetooth headsets.
Here is a thread (somewhat technical) which supports the idea that HTC has incomplete Bluetooth support on the Incredible http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/t/2336.aspx.
If everyone who has Bluetooth issues takes the time to call HTC support (866-449-8358 in US/Canada) and file a complaint on the issue, maybe this will eventually be fixed.
286 said:
This may be related to limitations with the Bluetooth implementation on the Incredible. I had problems (and crashes) trying to use my Incredible with a Bluetooth GPS device. When I called HTC support, they told me that HTC can only recommend connecting to Bluetooth headsets.
Here is a thread (somewhat technical) which supports the idea that HTC has incomplete Bluetooth support on the Incredible http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/91/t/2336.aspx.
If everyone who has Bluetooth issues takes the time to call HTC support (866-449-8358 in US/Canada) and file a complaint on the issue, maybe this will eventually be fixed.
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Thanks, I will be calling for sure. I had no issues with previous phones, including non-rooted and rooted Eris with my Alpine BT radio. Now I've had hit or miss connections to the radio, and have even had the radio power off when calls come in. Something is not quite right.
286 said:
This may be related to limitations with the Bluetooth implementation on the Incredible. I had problems (and crashes) trying to use my Incredible with a Bluetooth GPS device. When I called HTC support, they told me that HTC can only recommend connecting to Bluetooth headsets.
Here is a thread (somewhat technical) which supports the idea that HTC has incomplete Bluetooth support on the Incredible
If everyone who has Bluetooth issues takes the time to call HTC support (866-449-8358 in US/Canada) and file a complaint on the issue, maybe this will eventually be fixed.
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Will definitely continue to call. However, on a side note its not a BT issue b/c I can call straight from my phone as well even if its not paired via BT and I still get the same issues. Seems like many are having tons of q's about the Incredible b/c call waiting times are extremely long.
Finally got through to someone at HTC. No progress there. The claim that its an issue the different companies. Microsoft vs Android. HTC believes that android has blocked MS from using the location features. I do not agree with this and am quite dissatisfied with HTC customer support. I will keep on looking into this issue and hopefully find a solution
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I finally found a solution. This is what I did to get SYNC working:
1: Goto phone settings
2: Select Wireless & networks
3: select BT Settings
4: Select Advance Settings
5:Make sure FTP Server is checked
Now you will be able to use Vehicle health report and other SYNC Services such as Directions, Traffic, etc...
Hope this helps
km2010, That's great. I'll be trying it on the drive home tonight. FTP!?! Why would you even think of trying that?
I know sounds crazy! Lol I figured since SYNC works via voice over data I thought maybe if I enable ftp maybe it will be able to send whatever info is needed. So far no problems and everything is working wonderfully.
It didn't work for me Maybe it's a combination of settings. I tried GPS on and off, but neither made any difference. I'll keep trying.
On my phone I have use wireless network and gps enabled. Also before doing all of this I did a master reset with SYNC and I unpaired/removed SYNC from the BT settings of the Incredible. That way I was able to establish a fresh connection with our vehicle and the Incredible. Hope this helps
It might... I'll try this weekend.
Well I tried it all... Deleted pairing from SYNC, reset the phone, turned on FTP and GPS, paired the phone. And still nothing.
I doubt the GPS setting has anything to do with anything. My old WinMo did not have GPS and it worked perfectly with SYNC. Still it's wierd that yours works and mine doesn't. Could it be the OTA for the phone (I installed it) or updates to SYNC - don't know if there are any.
Our sync is version 3.1. Are you using Google voice. If so the number u set is some 760 area code number.... other than that not sure b/c but my Incredible & my wife's Incredible worked.
not using GV. It dials the 800# fine, it dies when trying to get the vehicle location. Which is very odd! My old phone did NOT have GPS and SYNC worked flawlessly. Even odder - now I can get traffic or directions to work once in every 10 attempts, and never back to back.
I have a new 2010 F-150 and am having the same problem with the HTC Incredible. Ford's solution - use another phone for my free 3 year trial of Traffic.
There must be a fix... hopefully when Froyo hits, this will be resolved!
Jon
jmorisey said:
I have a new 2010 F-150 and am having the same problem with the HTC Incredible. Ford's solution - use another phone for my free 3 year trial of Traffic.
There must be a fix... hopefully when Froyo hits, this will be resolved!
Jon
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Our vehicle is a 2010 as well. Have you tried:
1: Remove and unpair Sync in the Incredible's settings
2. Delete all devices from your vehicle by going to BT Setting on you Truck's stereo and select delete all
3. Then turn BT off on your phone
4. Turn BT back on on you phone
5. Make sure Sync in not listed as an added device, if it is still listed try to unpair/remove it until it is no longer listed as an added device.
6. If SYN has been successfully unpaired and deleted from the phone, then Goto phone settings Select Wireless & networks, then select BT Settings, Select Advance Settings, and Make sure FTP Server is checked
7. Repair the phone to you Truck and it should work.
Now you will be able to use Vehicle health report and other SYNC Services such as Directions, Traffic, etc... This worked for both my Incredible and my wife's Incredible. Our friends who tried this had success as well.
Hope this helps
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Our vehicle is a 2010 as well. Have you tried:
1: Remove and unpair Sync in the Incredible's settings
2. Delete all devices from your vehicle by going to BT Setting on you Truck's stereo and select delete all
3. Then turn BT off on your phone
4. Turn BT back on on you phone
5. Make sure Sync in not listed as an added device, if it is still listed try to unpair/remove it until it is no longer listed as an added device.
6. If SYN has been successfully unpaired and deleted from the phone, then Goto phone settings Select Wireless & networks, then select BT Settings, Select Advance Settings, and Make sure FTP Server is checked
7. Repair the phone to you Truck and it should work.
Now you will be able to use Vehicle health report and other SYNC Services such as Directions, Traffic, etc... This worked for both my Incredible and my wife's Incredible. Our friends who tried this had success as well.
Hope this helps
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I have tried ALL these steps, however not it this specific order. I have ran a health report as well as been able to occasionally receive directions (3 times) but it has never been on a consistent basis.
I will try these steps tonight, thank you for your time and advice - its much appreciated.
Jon
Not entirely sure but it may have to be in exact order. At least that's how I got it working.
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Not entirely sure but it may have to be in exact order. At least that's how I got it working.
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Tried your suggestions, unfortunately - no of them worked. I was able to use my wifes Samsung SAGA - so I know its not a harware issue on the vehicle.
Thanks for trying to help!
Jon
Recently my car stereo stopped syncing the phone book and call log from my GSM Galaxy Nexus. I don't know how or why. It simply stopped working. I want to reset the connection, i tried unpairing but this didn't work. I want to actually delete the connection from the phones memory. As of now whenever I click on Bluetooth, JVC Unit is always listed there. When I first established a connection it asked if it was ok to share my phones call log and phone book, and gave a check box to remember my response for next time. I cliked OK and REMEMBER and everything was fine. Now I think it could be possible that somehow it has been set to "NO" and "Remember"(although that would be weird since I didn't mess with it) thus no matter how many times I connect, it always refuses to share. I don't know if this is really the problem, or how to fix it. Any ideas? FYI the phone works fine through Bluetooth it just has no history or data in the phone log and phone book functions.
Have you updated the ROM?
Landara said:
Recently my car stereo stopped syncing the phone book and call log from my GSM Galaxy Nexus. I don't know how or why. It simply stopped working. I want to reset the connection, i tried unpairing but this didn't work. I want to actually delete the connection from the phones memory. As of now whenever I click on Bluetooth, JVC Unit is always listed there. When I first established a connection it asked if it was ok to share my phones call log and phone book, and gave a check box to remember my response for next time. I cliked OK and REMEMBER and everything was fine. Now I think it could be possible that somehow it has been set to "NO" and "Remember"(although that would be weird since I didn't mess with it) thus no matter how many times I connect, it always refuses to share. I don't know if this is really the problem, or how to fix it. Any ideas? FYI the phone works fine through Bluetooth it just has no history or data in the phone log and phone book functions.
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I am having the same problem on Sensation XE. It seems that with some ROMs it communicates without problems, in other cases it does not show call logs. Try to figure out what you've changed. Have you accepted any OTA?
Ciao
Rob
After upgrading to ND8, I was really disappointed that Bluetooth would not stay connected in my car. It paired find and would happily connect. The car then sent a MAP request and a PBAP request. I accepted both (just as I would with 4.3) and all seemed to work. I could play audio and use the phone, and the car even reported that the phonebook transfer succeeded. But then somewhere between 2 and 10 minutes, it would disconnect. Then in about 15 seconds it would reconnect and be fine for another 2 to 10 minutes. And this repeats non-stop. This made phone calls almost impossible.
At first I guessed I got a bad flash. I re-flashed stock, I flashed Wicked X, then I re-odin-ed. Nothing helped. After looking at similar threads for other phones, I tried playing with WiFi settings, but that didn't do anything. Tried some Xposed settings... nope.
Finally I found that if I repaired the phone (deleting the old records on both the car and phone) and this time I refused the PBAP request, all was fine. No more disconnects!!! I don't really need my car accessing my phone book, but it was nice with 4.3 to see caller names and pictures on the car display during a call. Also I have found that an initial MAP requests is being made when bluetooth connects, but when I receive a text, I no longer get a notification on the car. So MAP is not working.
Are other people finding that MAP and BPAP are working for them on ND8? I haven't seen this reported, so I have to imagine this is not a common problem. Everything worked fine for me with 4.3 so it seems my car does support MAP/BPAP, but now there is some incompatibility and I am not sure if the bug is with ND8 or my car.
Car is a Toyota Rav4 EV. Phone is a Sprint 16G SG3.
For the MAP issue, I am wondering if I need to use Samsung Messaging to get MAP? I use Hangouts. 4.4 added a new way to select a default messaging app. In 4.3 it seemed that both apps were active, but I had turned off notifications in Messaging. In 4.4 only Hangouts is active.
It is so frustrating that the Bluetooth stack changes from version to version isn't it. You'd think they would only add features rather than break things, right?
Well, luckily I haven't had disconnect issues, but the MAP profile you are mentioning for text messages, well it comes up on the screen, but doesn't display the originator of the message in the Toyota Entune's nav screen the way it used to. Seems to display message header garbage rather than the text message originator like it used to do.
I've also noticed that the display of title metadata on the cars screen for what's currently playing isn't showing the title changes as often like it was working on 4.3.
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After a bit more experimenting it seems that I was wrong. It seems that MAP is what is causing the disconnects and not PBAP. I had tested disabling MAP and PBAP together for many days which made me confident that I had found a solution. But I assumed that, of the two, PBAP was the issue. Next I tested disabling PBAP only and it seemed to be working fine so I decided my assumption was right. But I didn't test that long enough and the problem returned. I am now running with PBAP enabled and MAP disabled and it looks to be working, but its still early. I'll report back after some long drives which will test it much more effectively.
I assumed PBAP because looking through threads, others have reported disconnect issues with PBAP on other phones. It seemed a logical conclusion, but BZZZZTTTTT! OK, more after further testing...
My experience is that if I have my Sony Smartwatch 2 connected I do not have random Bluetooth audio disconnections, however if the audio accessory is the only Bluetooth device connected it will disconnect every 10 or 15 minutes. Not sure if that is helpful.
Fred
Hey folks!
I just picked up the BS3 after being generally disappointed for most of a year with the Razer Phone 2. I got the EU version (I guess?) and have been having general issues with the wireless.
Periodically, almost the entire suite of wireless connectivity just drops. My WearOS watch (Ticwatch Pro 2020) will disconnect, and the custom watchface I use via Watchfaces disappears. Wifi usually keeps working so I may not notice the drop right away, but if I'm on my phone's cellular connection, nothing goes through even though it shows signal and LTE. In my car on my way home from work this morning I was on the phone with my captain, and the bluetooth connection to my car started cutting in and out, to the point that I had to turn bluetooth off to finish the call. There was no issue up to that point, while driving and listening to Audible.
I am suspecting/hoping it was user error in setting the device up. I backed up my RP2 to Google Drive, because I didn't want to lose my apps/data (I was mostly hoping my Swype settings and game logins would transfer over, since Swype died and I'm being a luddite, and the games require the hassle of 'transfer IDs') and have my text messages transfer over easily. I think it also possibly transferred the core device stuff like cellular and bluetooth settings as well, though am not sure.
Turning airplane mode on and off seems to 'reset' things and it'll reconnect to stuff, for a while again at least. I noticed I am somehow still getting at least some push notifications on my watch even though it shows as disconnected. I am a firefighter, on AT&T's Firstnet, so am also not sure if maybe the Firstnet bands might be being finnicky with the BS3.
Thanks ahead of time for any help and suggestions!
ETA: I also get the "Xiaomi SIM activation failed" alert every time I restart the phone, and sometimes after reboot the keyboard doesn't load. ? I get the feeling ill need to reflash again, but knowing where I went wrong first would help! Also curious if there is a stock Android ROM because this JoyUI seems a hassle, and I just don't want all the Xiaomi stuff.