So i found this NORMAL sized extended battery on ebay. It has 1700mah opposed to the 1400 mah the factory one has. I have the verizon extended battery and it works great but, IT IS HUGE and there are no decent cases. So for $15 bucks i gave it a shot. When i get it ill let you know if the 300mah makes a difference.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Thunderbolt-Verizon-1700mAh-Extended-Slim-Battery-/150597849293?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item231054d0cd
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THIS BATTERY SUCKS
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So i found this NORMAL sized extended battery on ebay. It has 1700mah opposed to the 1400 mah the factory one has. I have the verizon extended battery and it works great but, IT IS HUGE and there are no decent cases. So for $15 bucks i gave it a shot. When i get it ill let you know if the 300mah makes a difference.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-Thunderbolt-Verizon-1700mAh-Extended-Slim-Battery-/150597849293?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item231054d0cd
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If I am not mistaken...there are threads on this battery and some people didn't find that much of a difference....but each phone is different..
I have the extended battery.....I have a silicone skin that I cut to fit the extended batter cover and then I bought a holster for it...works AWESOME
I didn't see a thread for this specific battery. I cut the case also, and it falls off every time i put it in my pocket drives me crazy lol. Something has to give a 2in thick phone doesn't do it for me. Plus that battery is heavy. So lets see how this cheap battery does
There's a thread somewhere about an independent test from "battery man" or something of the like.
He's stated that these batteries are often rated higher than whey they actually are, like 1700 actually being a 14 something. I'll see if I can find it. It was an interesting read.
Here you go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021992
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http://batteryboss.org/
It's not a 1700 mAh battery. It's a battery with a 1700 mAh sticker on it. With all the complaints about battery life, and the rumors that the TB was delayed while they worked to improve it, HTC would have gone with a higher capacity battery if one were available in a suitable size.
I got a couple of "1500 mAh" batteries and a charger from Hong Kong for $9 from ebay. They seem to work about the same as the OEM, enough to get me through a day (no 4G here, yet).
Some others had purchased these. If you run Battery Monitor Widget, it tells you how many mAh your battery is, it reports the correct 2750 for my extended, but on these 1700's it reported 1350.
I just need to come out and say it. A battery is a battery, you can't get a huge amount more of mah out of a battery that is the same size. There is no amazing battery that can hold 30% more energy and be the same size. You can increase capacity by taking out circuits, thinning the wall, and optimizing space in the battery but you can't make it tons higher. These batteries promoting themselves and so much more charge in the same package are a scam.
I've been posting on threads on these "1700mAh" batteries because I dislike the company that makes these ads. Its false advertising.
The story is that the seller already had "1500mAh" batteries on Amazon for the MyTouch 4G. Then when the TB came out he listed them on Amazon for the TB advertising them as 1500mAh. A week later he raised the price from $35ish to $50ish for 2 batteries and changed the title to state that its a 1700mAh battery.
For a short period of time people purchased this "1700mAh" battery for the TB. When they received it the sticker still stated 1500mAh. Then later people started getting the batteries with the stickers saying "1700mAh"
Summary: False advertising. Do not buy. Exactly the same as the $3-5 eBay batteries, so SAVE YOUR MONEY
BELIEVE ME I HAVE MY DOUBTS .ill test it and see what it does. it popped up on ebeay and ill try it out. gEeEeez. negative negative negative lol
albotz21 said:
BELIEVE ME I HAVE MY DOUBTS .ill test it and see what it does. it popped up on ebeay and ill try it out. gEeEeez. negative negative negative lol
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No one is being negative. They're just trying to let you know that you're getting scammed. Even if it was actually 1700 mah you'd get what, a extra hour out of it?
i have this battery and i got to say ain't worth it unless you want an extra battery just like the one that comes with the tbolt...
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Some others had purchased these. If you run Battery Monitor Widget, it tells you how many mAh your battery is, it reports the correct 2750 for my extended, but on these 1700's it reported 1350.
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That sounds about right, mine is on its way back to the company!
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Some others had purchased these. If you run Battery Monitor Widget, it tells you how many mAh your battery is, it reports the correct 2750 for my extended, but on these 1700's it reported 1350.
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There's a setting where you can change the capacity. My stock battery read 1350 also.
With that said, I bought these 1700 mah batteries and they are worse than stock. I guess it's a decent price for two extra batteries and a charger, but they suck. They dont extend anything.
i have tried this battery, it is the same, if not worse then the OEM battery.
I bought two of these 1700 mah batteries with a charger a few days ago. I only paid about $26 after shipping so we'll see how well they do. I'm not expecting miracles, I just need one to leave at the office and one for home. If my battery dies, I can still use my phone.
Sent from my 4G Thunderbolt.
you would probably be better off just flashing a kernel/rom that isn't all bloated and is more energy efficient. Ever since flashing the perfect storm rom my battery life was better. Flashed CM7 when the prealpha came out and its even better.
I'm on the Twisted Sense rom with the bamf_4.3b kernel. I have no complaints with the rom or kernel. My battery drain comes from me never putting the phone down.
Sent from my 4G Thunderbolt.
Never seem to get anyone posting results in these threads. I'd imagine there won't be much of a difference, but still would be nice to see what people are getting.
I'm still waiting on mine to come in.
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My extended batteries came in yesterday. I charged them and carried one today. My phone had drained by about 2:00 pm so I popped in one of my new ones. It's 8:30 and I'm at 69%. I wont say that I'm getting fantastic battery life, but it's fair. I did use navigation and I browsed the web a bit. After around 5 pm, I was on wifi so I'm sure that helped. For $26, I don't think I made a bad deal.
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Here's two batteries from Mugen Powers, a 1800mAh and 3600 mAh. From my understanding, The 1800mAh will work with the original stock battery cover. And of course the 3600mAh, has the bulkier build. Here's some links for those interested.
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/sony-ericsson/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10.html
http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/05/06/mugen-power-releases-1800mah-3600mah-batteries-for-xperia-x10/
3600mAh is sick but im going to order the 1800 mAh i wish they made a 2000mAh normal looking battery with the stock cover.
Thx for the post!
sexyvito said:
3600mAh is sick but im going to order the 1800 mAh i wish they made a 2000mAh normal looking battery with the stock cover.
Thx for the post!
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Let us know how it works out. I'm curious if there are any heat issues associated with the larger-capacity battery.
I just bought the 1800mAh, but it will be shipped in 10 days and will take 10 more to arrive!
anybody got a 1800mah one yet? thinking of getting one but im not sure they are worth it, has anyone had a battery from these guys before?
Mugen is one of the best second party manufacturer for batteries! It's really quality, no Hongkong Crap.
Interesting, Ive always wondered about suposedly good aftermarket batteries. ....Mugen you say !
OEM batteries is the only option unless the battery is inbuilt. Why are people so gullible? The manufactures always uses the best cells for their phones as it is part of the features present, i.e. long talk/standby time.
I have a HD2 and bought two original batteries which were not from Ebay.
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OEM batteries is the only option unless the battery is inbuilt. Why are people so gullible? The manufactures always uses the best cells for their phones as it is part of the features present, i.e. long talk/standby time.
I have a HD2 and bought two original batteries which were not from Ebay.
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maybe its because the people who know they are no good are so patronising when they are saying such. Not everyone has knowledge of these things and not everyone has had experience of this before but thats no reason to talk down to them. Its logical that these batteries should be better, after all they are rated 400mah higher, if thats not the case then you cannot blame the person who buys it thinking it is.
After market batteries is not a new phenomena and people buying such batteries should have learned by others which have made those mistakes before. It does not matter if it says Mugen or whatever on the battery.
I bought a battery for SE P1 on Ebay for 3 GBP and the picture was showing the retail package. When I received the package it was a "Walkman" branded when P1 is a business phone. I filled a complaint and received my money back. I would never do it without PayPal covering the full amount. I knew it from the beginning, if it sounds to good to be true it is not.
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After market batteries is not a new phenomena and people buying such batteries should have learned by others which have made those mistakes before. It does not matter if it says Mugen or whatever on the battery.
I bought a battery for SE P1 on Ebay for 3 GBP and the picture was showing the retail package. When I received the package it was a "Walkman" branded when P1 is a business phone. I filled a complaint and received my money back. I would never do it without PayPal covering the full amount. I knew it from the beginning, if it sounds to good to be true it is not.
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no, but what about somebody doesnt know anything about battery tech, or somebody who simply bought their phone from and o2 shop and has never had experience of other people buying aftermarket batteries? how are they supposed to know?
i came into this thread asking questions because to me it seems a little too good too be true, i know very little about battery tech but i do know a fair bit about other areas. other people, even those on this site may not have the slightest clue other than 1800 is more than 1400 and to talk down to them because of this is very unfair.
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Mugen is one of the best second party manufacturer for batteries! It's really quality, no Hongkong Crap.
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I laughed.
loggy said:
Interesting, Ive always wondered about suposedly good aftermarket batteries. ....Mugen you say !
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I laughed more. Beat me too it.
Mugen makes horrible batteries and have a long history of such incidents such as the ones above.
£26+ for 400mAh more - seems a bit steep IMO.
Better to buy a second genuine BST-41 from SE - seen them for the same money all over the place:
For example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EMARTBUY-GE...6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274285908&sr=1-6
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http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/13628512/Sony-Ericsson-BST-41-Battery-For-Xperia-X1-Xperia-X10-Xperia-X2/Product.html?_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:13628512%7Ccat:Mobile+
So long as it arrives with SE logo and hologram on it, it's probably fine.
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£26+ for 400mAh more - seems a bit steep IMO.
Better to buy a second genuine BST-41 from SE - seen them for the same money all over the place:
For example: http://www.amazon.co.uk/EMARTBUY-GE...6?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1274285908&sr=1-6
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http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/13628512/Sony-Ericsson-BST-41-Battery-For-Xperia-X1-Xperia-X10-Xperia-X2/Product.html?_$ja=tsid:11518%7Ccc:%7Cprd:13628512%7Ccat:Mobile+
So long as it arrives with SE logo and hologram on it, it's probably fine.
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Not true. The P1 battery from Ebay did have a hologram but when comparing against the original battery there was a visible difference.
Mugen 3600 mAh battery
I got my 3600mAh battery on Friday and it works great! 5% drain an hour even with heavy useage. I can go the whole day without charging and still have 30% before I go to bed, beats the OG battery which I had to charge 2 times a day which sucked...
I'm personally a bit skeptical to 3rd party batteries, but I would like to have a 3600mha battery, the added thickness is not a problem. But as far as I know there only available battery from Sony is the stock 1500mha battery?
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I got my 3600mAh battery on Friday and it works great! 5% drain an hour even with heavy useage. I can go the whole day without charging and still have 30% before I go to bed, beats the OG battery which I had to charge 2 times a day which sucked...
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That's exactly how my original battery behaves... lol
Not for me.
My original 1500mAh battery was dead by 3.30-4pm after taking it off charge at 8.30am and that was with moderate use. Its been dead by 2pm before now.
Got my 1800mAh Mugen battery and i can take it off charge at 8.30am and have it still on 40% at 5pm after heavy use during my lunch hour.
It does work much better
Saw an eBay auction for the Mugen battery set up by "Mugen Battery".
Read the lower lines and they want to add 19% VAT after the sale is completed to all EU buyers by sending you a separate bill for the VAT (totally against eBay rules)!
What a bunch of shysters!
-> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180522287953&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
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Not for me.
My original 1500mAh battery was dead by 3.30-4pm after taking it off charge at 8.30am and that was with moderate use. Its been dead by 2pm before now.
Got my 1800mAh Mugen battery and i can take it off charge at 8.30am and have it still on 40% at 5pm after heavy use during my lunch hour.
It does work much better
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I agree. I've been using the Mugen 1800mAg battery and it lasts all day without a charge. I even use moxier on direct push for work email.
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Did anyone had tried ebay 2000mha battery? I winder what is the best and cheapest battery that I can get that does not require new cover.
tritron777 said:
Did anyone had tried ebay 2000mha battery? I winder what is the best and cheapest battery that I can get that does not require new cover.
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I got the battery, I didn't notice a huge difference but I haven't tracked it at all.
They're are lying to you. basically any battery that's the same size as the stock battery is going to have the same amount of power as the stock battery. The only way to get extra juice is to add extra bulk. However, Seidio makes batteries that don't add extra bulk. Those are rated at 1750 mah. While I still you won't get much more battery life out of these, there at least a reputable company you can trust.
Andida is suppose to be better than a no-name battery. It is a name brand, just a cheaper name-brand and known in China. I bought their 2000mah battery and it seems to be about as good as the stock 1500mah. Then, i found that BatteryBoss tested the Andida 2000mah and it actually tested to be worse than the stock 1500mah Evo battery. I wouldnt want you to waste your money. I guess Seidio would be the only option because Mugen didnt do to good either at BatteryBoss. Sucks too, because they are so expensive, but if you MUST keep the factory battery door and want more juice than thats about your only option. I bought the 3000mah ebay battery with extended battery door and it is just awesome!! Yes, it is bigger. But, its actually VERY nice and looks and feels good with the bigger cover. Oh, and it is hard to kill . I turned on every radio and streamed music over wifi to bluetooth speakers for hours last night trying to run it down and only lost about 7% in the 2 hour span of doing this....
I tried the Andida 2000 and was not better then the OEM battery. Also have the extended 3500 from ebay(10.00) and works well, go a whole day+ with wifi, gps, sync on with mild to moderate use. Switch off and on with the oem and extended.
The 2000mah battery is garbage doesnt last longer than oem bat like others have said. I bought a 1800mah battery from ebay. its been over 24hrs and Im at 22% after 2hrs of calls, 30 txts, 1hr web browsing, & 1hr of pandora, bt is on all day too! I highly recommend, here's the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/2x1800mAh-Battery-Dock-Charger-Sprint-HTC-Evo-4G-/250661324218?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a5c9445ba#ht_3914wt_807
The andida 2000 I purchased was a good battery but I guess I was one of the lucky ones. I currently have a 3500mah battery. I see that there are also 2000mah galiliO batteries now available. I was thinking of getting one and comparing it to the stock battery and the andida 2000. I don't know if the galilieO batteries are 2000mah or just the re-labeled 1800mah batteries that are all over ebay.
@snowplow
you say the only way to add more juice is by adding bulk, but then in the next sentence say seidio is able to do it without adding bulk? not really making sense there! seidios battery i believe tested to be in the 1400s, below the OEM.
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I have it and is not any difference.
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Just bought 2 for $16 with a charger... So I'll let you know. Can't see myself being uber angry if it is the same as stock, as having a few spare batteries for mere pittance is great. Gotta love that eBay...
Galilio 2000mah. We'll see.
I actually got the Galileo batteries as well, so far, I'm seeing a little better than usual battery life. which makes me optimistic, considering you don't see the true potential until a few charge cycles, I just got them yesterday.
If you guys are running after market batteries here's a tip.
I have been running my Sedio 1800 mah (I know tested only comes to 1500) and lately my phone has been powering off on it's own. It happened to at the same time as I was running various gingerbread roms so I thought it had something to do with that. After some experimentation I realized that it was happening when I dropped my phone on the desk(ohh, yes I have a tpu case on the phone). I thought great, its a hardware issue and I don't have a warranty. Then after a long day streaming and lots of phone calls I needed to swap batteries and I installed my stock battery. I then noticed that my power off issues went away. I dropped the phone on the desktop 10 more times and no issues. So apparently the Sedio battery doesn't fit quite right in the phone, so wedged some paper at the top of the battery to try to give a little more pressure on the battery pins and that seems to have solved the issue.
the galilios are good batteries for the price, but i believe them to be closer to 1300mah based on my results vs stock.
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Just got a "Galilio" 2000mah yesterday. I'll be seeing how it works out over the next few days and report back. It is blatantly for a TP2 but fits VERY snugly in the EVO, (almost too snugly) and is a pain to get in and out. I have to use the corner of my back cover to pry it out...but if it gives me more battery I'll be taking it out less...
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Just got a "Galilio" 2000mah yesterday. I'll be seeing how it works out over the next few days and report back. It is blatantly for a TP2 but fits VERY snugly in the EVO, (almost too snugly) and is a pain to get in and out. I have to use the corner of my back cover to pry it out...but if it gives me more battery I'll be taking it out less...
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hmmm.. out of the 3 ive used i cant say i had that problem.
Tuffgong4 said:
Just got a "Galilio" 2000mah yesterday. I'll be seeing how it works out over the next few days and report back. It is blatantly for a TP2 but fits VERY snugly in the EVO, (almost too snugly) and is a pain to get in and out. I have to use the corner of my back cover to pry it out...but if it gives me more battery I'll be taking it out less...
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I have the exact same thing!. I actually had to rake a razor to one of them and Shane off a little bit of plastic from the top of the battery. Just a tiny bit. Fits perfect now.
There's already a discussion regarding this battery and others at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925298
That thread is more current than this one that started in Sept '10. Should we use that thread instead of keeping 2 very similar ones? Just a thought.
I have the Andida battery- worked great for a few weeks. Then I started to notice it would lose its charge fast. But this battery stated it was for the TP2- either way it fits the Evo. But when I had it on my TP2- it would hold a good charge.
I love the ebay 3500 batteries- great and still holding a charge (had it for almost a year). I use this one I am going on a long trip or Army training.
I have two of the Galilio 2000mah batteries- made for the TP2- no need to shave any crap- fits perfectly on my Evo. I measured both the OEM and the Galilio batteries- no difference. The Galilio is worth my $9- and I want that OEM look- I also ordered a white OEM Htc back cover. Read somewhere here in XDA- charge your batteries atleast once on a wallcharger- not usb. I find the batteries last longer.
Note, i did buy a generic 2000mah (non Galilio brand)- that was crap.
I have (2) 3500 mAh batteries, (1) 3000 mAh battery, (2) Galilio 2000 mAh batteries, (1) 1750 mAh Seidio battery... and others.
Available here! Who wants to try one first?
Me definitely! $50 seems like an awful lot to spend for an extra 200mAh though
I would but no money right now. Hey anything would be better off then the OEM 1300mAh =)
stock is 1400mha.
something tells me the stock battery have a higher capacity than those crooks using inferior cells while inflating the numbers.
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something tells me the stock battery have a higher capacity than those crooks using inferior cells while inflating the numbers.
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You are most definitely right I bought one if those for my G1 and it crapped out within a year. Your best bet is to take your chances with the cheap batteries on ebay. You can get ten of them for what one from Seidio charges you. No knock on Seidio.
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dunno where i saw it (somewhere here on xda prolly N1 forum) but some guys put every aftermarket battery for MANY phones up against HTC's stock batteries the astounding results:
NO aftermarket battery from ANY mfg. has EVER beaten HTC's stock battery...
(this is referring to batteries that fit in stock battery enclosure)
I agree after market battery might show higher numbers but not as good as the stocks ones
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You are most definitely right I bought one if those for my G1 and it crapped out within a year. Your best bet is to take your chances with the cheap batteries on ebay. You can get ten of them for what one from Seidio charges you. No knock on Seidio.
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me 3 right under a year mine crapped out and it never seemed much better than my 2 year old htc it replaced.
I'm surprised, I've had good results with extended batteries. The one I got for my G1 did considerably better than stock. (8-9 hours versus 6 with OEM battery.)
I bought 2 1500mAh batteries with charger from ebay for less then $15 shipped. They last less then stock battery does (I kill stock battery in about 14 hours, the ones from ebay last me about 10-12 hours) but I always have charged spare battery now. Great investment IMHO, no way I would pay $50 for 1 battery, not even original HTC.
Hey Zoltair, What brand was the one you got that was better than stock???
Well I should hope that an extended battery would give you longer life then a stock...seeing as how its suppose to. I don't think that the problem is whether or not extended batteris last longer, because I would think if you bought an extended battery and it didint last longer then a smaller, stock battery..you would then return it...I think what people have problems with is getting what they pay for, price per mA and how much mA there really is...if your paying 50 dollars for a battery rated at 1400ma, your probably going to want all the mA you payed for...for example: (PURELY FOR SPECULATION, NOT REAL NNUMBERS) say you have a stock 500ma battery and you get like 4 hours out of it or whatever, and then you purchase an extended battery for 50bucks and its "rated" at 1000ma, yet you only get 6-7 hours out of it...? Then it would seem that it isn't truly rated at which they say it is... Then you get into how much certain companies value their own integrity, and how much they are going to inflate their own battery ratings to simply sell the product. Examples of this can be found on batteryboss.org ...This website obtains batteries and tests them, and you can see clearly, some companies inflate their ratings more than others... If you look at what the battery was rated at, and what exactly it tested at...they even break down price per mA...so if you paid 2dollars per mA for a 1500 rated battery and it tested at 1300..how much money are you losing? Purchasing an extended battery should be looked at like all consumer purchases, weight the pros and cons... and read reviews on companies, you can also seek alternatives such as previous post in this thread of having spare OEM batteries that cost 1/10th of an extended battery, yet they immediately doulbe your battery length..
Zoltair Wright said:
I'm surprised, I've had good results with extended batteries. The one I got for my G1 did considerably better than stock. (8-9 hours versus 6 with OEM battery.)
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No word yet on performance on this? Anybody get it? I don't want to go first, lol!
Well $49.99 for 1600mAh is high as hell and top of that from unknown source, might well as wait for Mugen power stock size. I hope whoever has this post data on it so we can see if its any good.
Got one of these for my N1. Definitely NOT worth the money. Don't notice any difference from the OEM.
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Well $49.99 for 1600mAh is high as hell and top of that from unknown source, might well as wait for Mugen power stock size. I hope whoever has this post data on it so we can see if its any good.
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http://batteryboss.org/ <<< info about some mugen battery performance
Stop the debacle and concern on whether or not the 1700mah, 1600mah 1500mah blah blah blah batteries are better than stock.. I have a LOT of experience with Li-Po and Li-Ion batteries (cell phones use Li-Ion technology) and I can tell you WITHOUT a doubt that all these knock off companies are full of SH^* trying to say there batteries are of a higher capacity than the stock battery while staying the same size. Although it is possible to cram more mah into the same size package with li-ion batteries it is VERY unlikely to be able to do so with the current technology out right now. Most of these companies rate their mah on a different scale and actually will pull the battery to a lower voltage to justify their claims when it dosent matter because cell phones have a safety feature that has to shut the phone down at the specified voltage to prevent fires. Yes fires, Li-Ion has a fire risk if it is depleted all the way, not the same risk as a Li-Po battery but a risk just the same. HTC has a separate department that deals specifically with batteries and I can assure you they know and use the most up-to-date batteries they can get their hands on for these devices. There is nothing for them to gain by using inferior batteries in our phone. Those that have purchased the seidio 1600 extended battery and claim to have a better life on the phone are under a placebo effect. If you are just purchasing this "Extended" battery as a spare than buy all means go right ahead but dont expect a miraculous two hours extra from it because it is of lesser quality than the stock battery. I have hundreds of dollars in battery testing and logging equipment and If you guys dont believe me i will run some tests on the stock vs. whichever battery you'd like me too and post the data for all to see, but Ive been down this road before with htc phones and have always come up with the same conclusion......The aftermarket "Extended" batteries actually have less mah's than their stock counterparts.
Of course Im not referring to the htc extended battery in this post, its obviously pushing more mah's with its monstrous size, lol.
....just sayin..
Oh' and to elaborate because Ive also read some concerns over the length of time for charging the thunderbolt (which does seem lengthy I will admit).
Since our phone has such a hard time time keeping up with a normal days use I believe what htc has done is given the battery a longer "saturation charge" for the battery to completely charge before it completes the charge cycle.
Li-ion batteries are charged on a 3 cycle charge system and stage two is what is considered the saturation cycle where the battery may sit at a relatively static voltage for a period of time to saturate the cells with current to top off the charge, some cell phones skimp on this step to give the phone a fast charge time which is termed "charge-and-run" and people assume the device has been adequately charged when it has not. For an adequate "FULL" charge without harming the battery or affecting battery life, typically li-ion batteries take approx. 3-4 hours.
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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I wouldnt go that far, I doubt any of the batteries are "paperweights" yet. Im just making the point that the claims of higher capacity are unfounded and the cheap knock-offs are of lesser quality. Also check where the batteries are made. Good quality Li-ion cells come from Japan.
One thing to note with the cheapies is the temp while charging or under heavy use. Get a temp monitor app and compare between the stock and your aftermarket batteries, they will probably run hotter. Unfortunately I dont have any other batteries to test for you guys other than the stock OEM battery otherwise I would. If I pick any up Ill cycle the stock vs. aftermarket and post the data log between the two.
Also I didnt mean the "fire" comment to worry anyone, Li-ion batteries have protection curcuit that will render the battery useless and unserviceable if the cell reaches a voltage of 2.70v or lower which is where the chemistry of li-ion becomes unstable.
I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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good info, thanks!
1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ha, I bought the same ones you did.
I didn't expect them to be as good as the 1400 mAh battery that comes with the phone. I just wanted to have a spare battery available in case I'm traveling and watching movies or something (on a plane). Even though it says it's 1500 mAh, I expect them to be more around 1200 - 1400 mAh.
Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.
I've used Chinese batteries every chance I get. They do work. From an Eris to the Dinc. 3500mah. Never had a problem. Emails and games etc. I bought the extended battery along with the Tbolt. Just don't like the hump on the back. I'm on eBay every night waiting for the Chinese to strike with a extended battery. At least a Better extended back cover. For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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Every cheap battery I have ever used has worked great.... for 2 weeks.
reg83ny said:
For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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lol thats hilarious
1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ddgarcia05 said:
No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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This was the best part of the thread.
Awwz.... Well I DO know of one way.... connect a bunch of AA batteries in parallel, bust out a dremel, and create a frankenbattery!
ddgarcia05 said:
I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...
firedude12 said:
I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...
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If you do I recommend you buy the 1500 MyTouch4G batteries from ChiChi's htcexpress or their store on amazon. They should be the same a the 1700 Thunderbolt batteries and $20 cheaper.
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Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.
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When I get around to ordering up the batteries Ill post a chart like that on a seperate thread for our phone. I have some pretty sophisticated logging equipment. It shows the temp, charge capacity, voltage, mah, cell balance and health in an easy to read graph.
Im not a battery nerd but I used to be into RC helicopters BIG time and when you have a $5000.00 helicopter that can kill someone its just normal practice to have the equipment to check your $800 batteries so they dont fail 80 feet in the air and blow up or decapitate someone, lol
Heres a video of one of my helicopters (Trex 700 electric) , this one uses two 6s 5000mah li-po batteries and each one costs over $300 and they only last 8 minutes before there dead The video isnt of me however, I need a video camera to post mine but the helicopter is identical for the most part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsH5FZq6XA
(speaking from g1, nexus, and g2 experience only)
i've bought extended batteries for phones for less than $15 each all in the 2400 to 3600 mah range. they last 2-3 days with normal use. the oldest one is 3 years old (g1) and still performs like new.
iirc the seller was based in hongkong.
just saying.
the htc extended battery
personally of all the batteries i have tried this is by far the best one until sedio has an 3500mah then i will be getting that i think
Hi Folks,
I recently purchased a HTC Wildfire S. I am quite disappointed by the battery performance. The dialer and android system always shows 49 % usage. Is it a bug in GB or is this normal behavior ?
I feel my battery drains out very fast in a day. I usually do a 20-30 mins of call/day. About 10-20 Mb of internet data via 2G. But at the end of the day around 8-8.30 PM my battery is almost at 25-30% or sometimes less than that. I have disabled all the vibrating notifications. Wi-Fi and bluetooth OFF, I have installed juice defender which shuts the data off when the phone is idle. Though there is some improvement after this, i still feel the battery is going down.
When googled about this, everyone had almost the same complaint. And the only suggestion was to have an extra 1500 or 1900 mAh battery. Now which is the recommended battery without making any change to the hardware etc
coz i see lot of them taking a 3500 mAh battery with extra cover and changing the contacts and all. I dont want to do all those but just to improve my battery performance. Can you help me out ?
I use this battery :
http://www.batterychampion.fr/produ...rtmentProductId/76703263/shopGroupId/95658473
I can use my device almost during 3 days without any charge : calls, sms, internet and games.
Its very large. I wanted a small phone...
The 1500mAh Replacement Battery For HTC HD7 fits the Wildfire S and gives you an approximate 20-30% boost in battery capacity.
Edit: Nvm, never bought a new battery lol
and what about 1900? any suggestion?
and btw, 1500 and 1900 battery has same sizes as the original? only the 2200 and 3500 needs a new back cover ,right?
the only extended battery worth getting is the Cameron Sino 2200mah version. Yes, it does make you phone quite a bit thicker...but it's the only one i've found that does what it's supposed to do.
I tried first a 3500mah version, but after a couple of weeks it lost it's ability to hold charge almost completely, so it was actually worse than the stock battery.
Next was the eCell 2350mah version (Gold), this didn't last much longer than the stock battery either, although it did give a litte extra, but no where near the 2x capacity of the stock, as it should have been. (i think i got like an extra hour or two oout of it)
and finally....the CS 2200mah version.....where I usually get around 8 hours tops on the stock battery (i leave things syncing every hour, quite alot of texts every day, a fair bit of internt use too), I can now use my phone for 2 full days straight, and by night-time on the second day it's finally down to around 10-15% battery left, so go mad playing games for an hour or two to really run it down to nothing, then leave it on charge over-night.
I would highly reccommend this battery, it's the only one you'll ever need, and you can actually make use of the "smart" features of your phone....I can actually use programs that need GPS without having to worry if my battery will die, leaving me stranded
it only costs around £10 on ebay.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150696338487
the thickness is something you get used to, and some people even find it a bit more comfortable to hold....so it's not necessarily a bad thing.
A review of the Cameron Sino.
It comes as advertised.
SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Thanks a lot for the info, I'll be buying it soon.
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From my personal experiences the HD7 replacement doesn't give that boost. Maybe I got a weak unit... Soon I will order another one just to make sure.
I suggest you check this thread for comparisons between different batteries and results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419930
On page 3 of that thread I show my tests and comparisons of:
HTC Stock 1230mAh
HD7 1500mAh replacement
ECell Gold 2430mAh
Thanks to d33ps1x for his great public service testing several batteries and showing us what we can expect from them. If he didn't open that thread (and others) I probably wouldn't have shared my results.
I suggest everybody take a good luck before spending their cash.
I've recently bought the 3500mah battery with black cover at FocalPrice for 6€ shipping included.
When I get the order I'll post my results.
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I've recently bought the 3500mah battery with black cover at FocalPrice for 6€ shipping included.
When I get the order I'll post my results.
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3500... i rly hope it will be that much, but it will more likely be 1700 to 2000 MAX
I thought that too but a friend bought it and told me that his phone stays on for a least 2 days without charging it.
When it arrives my home I'll post my results with pics of the difference.
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I thought that too but a friend bought it and told me that his phone stays on for a least 2 days without charging it.
When it arrives my home I'll post my results with pics of the difference.
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okay, we expect your review .. .
I got the Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh about a week ago.
I cant give an accurate review of the battery but I've found that its well worth the extra size for the extended life, i get a couple of days out of it now.
Its cheap as well and now I have a spare battery so if I know i'm gonna be away from a charger I can take the original battery with me.
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I got the Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh about a week ago.
I cant give an accurate review of the battery but I've found that its well worth the extra size for the extended life, i get a couple of days out of it now.
Its cheap as well and now I have a spare battery so if I know i'm gonna be away from a charger I can take the original battery with me.
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Like other people have seen (d33ps1x for example), the Cameron Sino 2200 mAh is the best bang for the buck. Even if it makes your phone "fat" it is a real power improvement.
The ECell Gold 2430mAh has barely 1600mAh inside so it's obviously false advertising when they say that they use Li-Polymer. I have one and ordered the second unit because even if it doesn't correspond to what's promised, it still gives a nice boost comparing to stock.
I'm also curious how different the two batteries can be. The second one will arrive this week. I will prepare it and test it as soon as I get it in the mail.
All those 1500mAh you can find on eBay are only marginal improvement when comparing to the stock battery. If they can provide 1300-1350mAh then you are a very lucky owner.
There are some amazing batteries out there, but they are too expensive.
I'm talking about Mugen Power Batteries:
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/
I had one of their batteries on my HTC Desire and it was something out of other world. If you follow their instructions (that come with the battery) you won't regret buying one. Right now the Wildfire S 1500 mAh is out of stock and will be ready for shipment on the 17th February. This means they're being produced now and who buys them will get brand new batteries, that haven't stayed for months in a warehouse. If they were cheaper I would definitely order one. If Mugen Power announces 1500mAh, they're definitely inside.
I want to buy the Cameron sino 2200 may, but will it fit a metro pcs wildfire s???
I get one or two days? I think that's good? It's longer when wifi is off.
id05dav said:
I want to buy the Cameron sino 2200 may, but will it fit a metro pcs wildfire s???
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The battery will fit, but the cover will not.
chicle_11 said:
The battery will fit, but the cover will not.
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I got the battery, it fits, but it's BIG! I got a soft silicone case and it works. It stretches and fits fine, it protects the phone without a back cover.
The battery is a definite improvement over the original.