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like i said, gps works fine with the internal one, when i am using google maps, but when i try use the tomtom app with the internal gps its got grey bars and then i wait ages.....
they will then flick blue, but then drop off again... then about 5 mins later a quick flash of blue then back to grey, just wont hold out on tomtom, anyone else found a problem like this?
the only solution i found was the stick on my bluetooth gps reciever, but i got this phone with the internal gps as i manged to get the DIAMOND working fine with internal gps and now i have the blackstone/hd i want it working,
im using version 7.910 tomtom black vga'd with 8.4 maps but i also had the problem when i was using the earlier verison 7.45 with version 7 maps.
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Sounds like you have AGPS enabled. Disable AGPS and you should be ok
interesting, i definitely do have it on, so will have to try it without it mate, will report back if it holds a connection.
looks like it is working, as its holding my position now, but i will try it out on the drive to work in the morning.
Thanks for the advice.
Isnt it weird that something designed to improve GPS doent work lol
tried it this morning kept dropping signal every 5secs, so i ran quick gps, as i read Andy reporting similar things, i last updated this last night, but still... ran it, ad it worked all the way to work. when i checked signal, all but last two bars were filled blue, will neednto try again on way home,
is this related to cold/hot start?
didnt update quick gps, and all seems to be working ok still on tomtom, no problems yet, always on full signal!!
thanks guys
I have a problem with my Defy.
The GPS doesn't seem to work properly. I've tested it with GPS Status & GPS Test...it detects satellites but doesn't use any of them to locate the cell phone.
A few days ago, I've succeed to get a localization but since it doesn't work.
I've just reboot it so that I'll have the manufacturing settings but, it still doesn't work...
Can someone be of any help ?
Thanks.
ernold said:
I have a problem with my Defy.
The GPS doesn't seem to work properly. I've tested it with GPS Status & GPS Test...it detects satellites but doesn't use any of them to locate the cell phone.
A few days ago, I've succeed to get a localization but since it doesn't work.
I've just reboot it so that I'll have the manufacturing settings but, it still doesn't work...
Can someone be of any help ?
Thanks.
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Have you tried calibrating the compass in the settings? I had what sounds like a similar problem and I did that it worked for me.
Have you tried going into airplane mode, then using the GPS?
The compass is calibrated.
I've tried to turn on the airplane mode & then to launch the gps...same result no satellite in use, no localization...
I tried the GPS today, no airplain mode, defy was working as usual. I had to wait quite long time to get the fix but then no issues. FYI compass was already calibrated.
Since your defy is able to detect the satellites it should not be an hardware issue, i guess you were using pre-installed gmaps and navigator, have you tried any other software which makes use of gps location? (e.g. TrackMe)
Since your defy is able to detect the satellites it should not be an hardware issue, i guess you were using pre-installed gmaps and navigator, have you tried any other software which makes use of gps location? (e.g. TrackMe)
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Yes, that's what I think, it shouldn't be a hardware issue...
I tried with the apps GPS test & GPS status which were not pre-installed and it doesn't work either...
ernold said:
Yes, that's what I think, it shouldn't be a hardware issue...
I tried with the apps GPS test & GPS status which were not pre-installed and it doesn't work either...
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I can't figure out what's causing your issue... but, take a look here:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/40896
maybe it could be helpful, second post of cheaplikeafox, he's talking about a gps reset (made through GPS status) which solved the problem. Did you try that specific option in GPS status?
Sadly, I've already tried...arf...I don't what to do.
Maybe I should try with other Motorola phones' owners...
ernold said:
Sadly, I've already tried...arf...I don't what to do.
Maybe I should try with other Motorola phones' owners...
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Just to be sure, are you trying to use the GPS without being in "maps" that came with the phone? But on a separate set of installed maps? Except for the link above, I don't see GPS as an issue on the Motorola forums.
If I turn on network nav. and go into maps, my location is off by from two miles to forty miles. If I then turn on GPS it will correct my location within thirty second (time, that is). Turn off network nav., go back into maps and hit location and it corrects within 10-15 seconds using just GPS.
FWIW I just bought and downloaded Copilot live for North America ($5) Shut off data and ran on GPS -- it loaded very quickly. Of course it's pulling maps off the SD, but there was no lag in the GPS.
Same issue here.
Bought a defy (made in brazil) today and no gps (endomondo, gps test, gps status).
I already have a x10, and their gps always works.
carlosklein said:
Same issue here.
Bought a defy (made in brazil) today and no gps (endomondo, gps test, gps status).
I already have a x10, and their gps always works.
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When I first tried GPS on my phone it took so long to "kick in" I thought the phone was broken. Finally it did. I later got "GPS status" and it picks the satellites up right away. However, I believe you must have your google maps "Maps" turned on or the GPS won't work in the stock phone.
How much time your gps needed in the first time? I im trying right now.
In google maps: My location: Accurate to 70 meters (wireless method).
In endomondo: Locating satellites
In Gps Test: In view 1, In Use 0, Gps On (yellow), Accuracy (feet): 0
After about 1 hour, i am getting 2 sats in view on Gps test, but no one in use.
After hours, i am getting 2 sattelites in GPS Test (sometimes 3). But the color of the bars (SNR Color, according the documentation) is white. Not working...
On my xperia, i am getting 9 sattelites (yellow and green).
Make sure you're not on WiFi
carlosklein said:
After hours, i am getting 2 sattelites in GPS Test (sometimes 3). But the color of the bars (SNR Color, according the documentation) is white. Not working...
On my xperia, i am getting 9 sattelites (yellow and green).
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My previous phone was an xperia x1 too, yes GPS was much much better. More than a issue with defy it looks like Android is not so brilliant in dealing with GPS.
I need long time to get my position fixed (could it be the lack of QuickGPS??), and it seems many apps can't correctly display the satellites while the device is searching for a fix.
It gets better if i have google maps app opened in background.
Finally got gps working.
I made a few things (not sure what work...)
- Factory reset
- Install a bunch of softwares (Endomondo, GPS Test, WisePilot, TrackerBooster)
What work (i think)
- Leave my phone with TrackerBooster and GPS Test turned on, in open space (a bench on a park) for about 45 minutes (airplane mode off, wifi on and connected, 3g on). In the early minutes, GPS Test only find a few satellites (4 or 5). Suddenly 10 satellites appear and change the color to yellow and green (it was white). Working!
Thanks all!
ps: Defy is better than X10. Even motoblur is better than TimeScape (IMOHO).
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Finally got gps working.
ps: Defy is better than X10. Even motoblur is better than TimeScape (IMOHO).
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When i read "xperia" i thought about x1, anyway, i agree defy is better than xperia (them all) except for GPS. With my x1, in open spaces, i got 10-11 satellites in just 2 minutes (without QuickGPS) and it needed about 20 seconds when QuickGPS was working.
Hi all,
I have the Desire HD for 2 weeks now but I've only yesterday noted the gps doesn't seem to work... It's a complete stock model, no custom roms or radio's. I'ts just never able to get a fix! Are there other people with problems like this? Could my device be broken?
I have installed a app from the market that tests the gps and it finds no satelites most of the time except one time I checked it found 4 with a very bad signal... Even then in Google Maps or the HTC Locations it didn't get a fix.
Any ideas?
Bump! I have exactly the same problem. Any Advice?
same problem
i HAD this problem, but then i left the GPS on for an entire journey. 45 minutes later it had a fix and ive never had any problems getting a fix within a minute since.
i dont think the phone knows what side of the globe its on the first time, so maybe it just needs a loooong time the first time.
Most GPS devices need to download a file known as an almanac. This determines where satellites will be at specified times.
This file can take a while to download as GPS is purely passive. I'm not sure if the DHD is A-GPS (Assisted). This will download the almanac via mobile or wifi data.
This is why sometimes the first GPS lock can take a while.
Try these two programs:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-status-toolbox/com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-test/com.chartcross.gpstest
First one is great for diagnostic so it should tell you what is wrong.
I also have the same problem, been driving for about 30mins and nothing..
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andyharney said:
Most GPS devices need to download a file known as an almanac. This determines where satellites will be at specified times.
This file can take a while to download as GPS is purely passive. I'm not sure if the DHD is A-GPS (Assisted). This will download the almanac via mobile or wifi data.
This is why sometimes the first GPS lock can take a while.
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Ok......DHD has A-gps as well
seeing your posts, quite amazed how you did not know this (no pun intended)
dzn said:
Hi all,
I have the Desire HD for 2 weeks now but I've only yesterday noted the gps doesn't seem to work... It's a complete stock model, no custom roms or radio's. I'ts just never able to get a fix! Are there other people with problems like this? Could my device be broken?
I have installed a app from the market that tests the gps and it finds no satelites most of the time except one time I checked it found 4 with a very bad signal... Even then in Google Maps or the HTC Locations it didn't get a fix.
Any ideas?
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1st gps-fix is a pain, after it will all get better....search for my posts, you'll see that this has been asked several times (don't want to be a b**ch but, please use the search button as well) and in general, 1st fix takes some time, 2nd is fast (like <2 min).
At this moment, while I thought my gps fix was very bad (and as I own one, if not the, of the 1st DHD batches, it was not abnormal to think that it also had gps probs) it now fixes within 1 minute....
Problematic piece of device for me for GPS.
Got mine a cpl of days ago , downloaded the apps above but still nothing i will give it one more try.
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kermez said:
Try these two programs:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-status-toolbox/com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2
http://www.appbrain.com/app/gps-test/com.chartcross.gpstest
First one is great for diagnostic so it should tell you what is wrong.
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I tried both GPS apps. And immediately after that, I was able to get GPS satellite lock on within 20s.
Guys regarding the GPS, all of us we face an issue. It can not lock the satellites quickly. Especially for the people like me who are HTC HD2 owners as well. I was waiting only few seconds. (cooked rom). We MUST forget that now. It's an issue for all of the android devices. Even with the device of the Nexus. So we must live with that. Sometimes it will lock the satellites in 1 min or 30 secs, some other time in 2-3 mins. I searched also in the internet and i found so many complains regarding the GPS and hopefully not only from DHD users
f9cator said:
I tried both GPS apps. And immediately after that, I was able to get GPS satellite lock on within 20s.
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Yep, I had also that problem but then red at forums that only way to lock as fast as you can satellite is to use first one for locking over internet and after that it's much easier to find satellite. Whenever you have problem with locking or need gps asap first program should provide you with fast satellite find.
Btw gps on dhd is so good that I have sold my old garmin - simply it's obsolete and now I have only to purchase official car holder.
Most of the times is more difficult to get a fix in a speeding car.
In the opposite case is generally faster to get a sat fix.
So I've been using my DHD for 3 weeks now (stock model as well, no root) and here are two issues with GPS that I noticed and have no idea what to do with it.
1. The same problem as described in first post. Every once in a while my GPS just cannot get a fix. I installed GPS Test app. Normally it finds around 6-7 satellites, they are all in use, the yellow indicator in GPS status bar goes green and my location appears on mini-map.
However there are situations when GPS Test says that there is 1 to 5 satelites in view, later on they also apper to be in use, but GPS status doesn't change to green and my actual location doesn't show. It's not a problem of visibility or my location - the GPS can get a fix today and not work tomorrow at the very same place.
I have no idea if this can be fixed, so any help appreciated.
2. This is not really an issue, just something that I find quite disturbing. I'm using this traffic app (Yandex Maps for those of you in Russia). It shows current traffic condition on the map + your current location if you have GPS. So each time I lock my DHD (press the button on the top) the GPS is immedietly switched off. So when I unlock the screen to see the map again it takes from few seconds to a minute or even more to update my current position. Sometimes it doesn't happen at all (see problem #1). I understand it's probably done to save battery but I would prefer continuously working GPS than saving battery. Is there any way to set GPS to always working mode?
Thanks in advance to everyone who can help. Cheers
Hi,
I read all you guys said and after trying both the apps and refreshing my agps data manually I now get 6-7 satellites which is good I think?
So for all of you with the same problem, just stay outside for a moment and make sure you have a data-connection. Then use the GPS Status app and refresh your agps data manually. It should work... It did for me!
Ps. I think my Desire, not the HD, used to see 11 satellites? Is that possible? Does this mean 6-7 is kind of weak?
dzn said:
Hi,
I read all you guys said and after trying both the apps and refreshing my agps data manually I now get 6-7 satellites which is good I think?
So for all of you with the same problem, just stay outside for a moment and make sure you have a data-connection. Then use the GPS Status app and refresh your agps data manually. It should work... It did for me!
Ps. I think my Desire, not the HD, used to see 11 satellites? Is that possible? Does this mean 6-7 is kind of weak?
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Just to make it clear - to manually refresh AGPS using GPS Status - you need to go to Menu->Tools->Manage A-GPS state->Download?
I'm not outside now, but will try it once I have problems getting a fix.
And yes, 11 sats is possible. 6-7 is more than enough though.
Stand still to get a fix? Harder when you are speedy, I think.
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Your movement speed has no impact on how quickly you get a lock. Remember, these satellites are in orbit traveling alot faster than your 30 - 70mph.
First off, I'm aware this phone is riddled with GPS problems, so I'm not asking the typical questions. But pretty much everything I hear from people about their problems are how they never get a lock, or it takes several minutes to get one. That's not my problem.
My problem is after I get a lock (which is usually pretty quick) and am driving following my Google Nav directions it will CONSTANTLY lose the satellites. Seems to be every couple of miles that it starts searching for satellites for about 2-5 minutes before refinding them, only to lose them a few minutes later, and usually right when I need to exit the freeway. Also it takes it a good minute or so to realize it's lost the satellites, so it will keep me frozen in the same spot on the map for this time, not giving me the convenient button to access the list view.
Has anyone else experienced THIS specific problem, and do you have any advice?
What android version are you on? I had problems like this on eclair but my GPS on froyo is as good as my wife's evo.
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Froyo, Quantum 2.5. In fact this problem has really only been since Froyo ROMs. My GPS was solid in Eclair.
So... nothing? Not even a "no, nobody's having your problem?"
I've had this problem from time to time, but it seems to be inconsistent; I use google nav a few times every day. Hasn't happened lately though and I've been on the same ROM for 5 days now.
I have this issue and i'm on the latest bonsai rom. I think it is a problem with Google Nav personally because with Sprint Navigation it happens less often for me. Or Perhaps I just have a bad GPS chip. I'm going to run stock di18 for a few days and see if it is just Froyo and my Phone that bugs out. Maybe it is just my phone and I need a new one.
Yeah remember google nav is still in beta form
You're better off using sprint navigation
I never lost a lock and I'm on froyo stock dk28
And sprint nav is free..I can see why people on tmo and verizon use google nav but not sprint folk lol
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Happens to me all the time (bonsai 1.1.4).
A quick work around is to use the GPS toggle in the notification area.
Disable it long enough for it to say it lost GPS, enable it finds it quickly (for me), but it's hella annoying.
=]
Update from my previous post,
Google nav worked for 20 minutes all the way home yesterday and today on my way to work it dropped out after 5 minutes then worked for another 15. I'm pretty sure this is just Google nav being buggy and Epic GPS internals are not the greatest. All in all Sprint Nav seems to be working a lot better. If you still continue to have problems try getting a replacement phone from sprint. I hear that some of the epics out there have better luck with GPS. You Could have gotten a bad one like me. WHen i've asked this question in the past on the forums a lot of people just have the big issue of not getting GPS Locks. Never see to many having the GPS drop signal issue. Everyone else's post that i've read say they have perfect GPS. Its funny because I get locks instantly but gps drops randomly like yours... so so lame.
Also try out the new Bonsai4all rom because after I've installed it i'm having a lot less GPS drops with Google Nav and i'm still testing Sprint Nav. Good Luck.
EDIT: I have been testing GPS driving to work and back home. Not one single GPS signal lost. This GPS issues might be in the past. I'm not sure if its Mammons Bonsai Rom that fixed it but If I were anyone having the same issues I would try a fresh wipe of your SD card and Odin epic back to di18, get gps signal in Google Maps, Odin to dk28- get signal in Google Maps, and CWM3.0.0.5 and then flash BOnsai. Good Luck
I don't know what is in bonsai 1.1.4 rom but my gps is perfect now and it was buggy with every other rom I've tried on dk28. I've tried a lot. Midnight,viper,epic experience.
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I had this problem all the time. It was especially bad last week when I was down in Tucson for work. It was what finally motivated me to get rid of the Epic.
I have the same problem OP. I actually finally just posted about it today, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921935 and my post is #4. I still don't have a solution, but am willing to try Bonsai 1.1.4 if it would fix things...
Such an annoying problem. I haven't been trying Sprint Nav lately as it is removed in Nebula 1.0.6, but I could try adding it back in and seeing if there is any improvement...
Try the phone reset with the msl code also. Many people are having luck with it. Good luck.
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Had the same problem for weeks. So do many others, as this is on numerous threads throughout the boards (and Android Central too). On the latest Bonsai Rom (and others based on it like Midnight), they list a gps fix. Using Midnight 2.9 fixed it for me.
Also, when I was having problems, Sprint Nav worked much better than google Nav.
The more this happens to me, the more I think it's a Google Nav problem, not a hardware/firmware problem. When it happens I see that the GPS icon in the notification bar is solid and not "searching" for a signal. That to me points to the software as the problem. Either way, it's REALLY annoying.
I was never particularly happy with the Sprint Navigation app which is why I've avoided it. Google Nav always worked so well for me before. Also I've been trying to cut down on apps on this phone, especially carrier crap.
I may try Bonsai, although I've generally liked Quantum well enough that I didn't want to switch camps. Several people stating they're using it and not having this problem is a good trail to follow, though.
Still, pretty darn frustrating.
EDIT: All right, I just switched to Bonsai. All I can say is thank you for giving me the push to switch. I don't know about nav yet (although Maps lock was quite literally instant instead of the several seconds I wasn't too bugged by before), but the overall kernel is so absurdly faster I'm shocked. Thanks.
Here is what happens to me. I can get a very accurate GPS lock easily. When I am navigating, however, the GPS lock drops after a few minutes of use, as if GPS were turned off. If I have just rebooted the phone, the GPS lock lasts about 15 minutes, and then it happens again. I can toggle the GPS on and off from the pull down menu to fix it temporarily. But, it keeps happening, and it gets more frequent. I've been this problem on every Froyo ROM I have tried . . . Bonsai, Nebula, etc. It is NOT only on Google NAV. It seems to be even worse on NAVIGON.
I never had these problems on Eclair. The fix on Eclair was not as accurate, but it never just dropped.
This only happens to me when I lose signal. Which usually means I'm out in the middle of nowhere and need my gps.
Thinking of getting a back up offline gps for this reason.
Silent25r said:
This only happens to me when I lose signal. Which usually means I'm out in the middle of nowhere and need my gps.
Thinking of getting a back up offline gps for this reason.
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This is not my issue. I am in the middle of strong 4G coverage when it happens + Navigon works offline (when you have a sat lock).
I didn't have issues before switching to DK28/Froyo/Nebuls 1.06, but now the GPS is awful ... even after doing the MSL reset. Frustrating is an understatement.
Hi guiz!
I installed CM9 on my HOX. But besides the known bugs with that, i also have issues with the bluetooth and GPS software.
Bluetooth simply wont turn on; when i pull/push the slider it keeps going back to 'off'...
GPS wont turn on either; when i open any form of navigation it keeps saying 'searching for gps signals', and the little icon in the top bar doesn't show up. and yes, i have turned on the internal GPS in the options
although its not like i can test with a bluetooth gps now can i ^^
A lot of apps crash, too. Could be instantly, could be after 20 seconds, but they all crash with the 'has stopped working' or something alike. Kindof hard to use the phon this way. Stock rom didn't have those issues in the brief time i used that.
I can't ask this in the CM9 [WIP] forum, being a newbie and all. So I hope someone here can help me? Is my HOX different? Why it no work!?
Oh yeah, i have the international HOX, so the Tegra 3 one.
Nobody has any idea's on this? Flashed the kernel again, uploaded the new CM9 alpha 7. Still the same errors. Crashing seems less often; but still not bluetooth nor GPS :/