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I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash
Yeah this is very odd. A couple of us in ##incredibleroms have been working with AnthonyKash to figure this out. So far we have had no luck at all. No Sense UI ROMs do this to him, it seems like it's only vanilla ROMs. Very strange............
anthonykash said:
I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash
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I know you posted this months ago but was wondering if you figured out what is causing this? I too can't use ANY aosp Rome because they all end up being unusable after a couple of hours. It's almost like the CPU slows down to a dramatic crawl. Only way to fix is to do a battery pull to reset. I have cleared cache, dalvik, uninstalled setcpu, all with no luck. Anyone have any insights?
Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.
+1 to the above post. Seems like some sense files are bring left somewhere.
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smtom said:
Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.
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I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?
One thing I do find very weird is that even after doing full wipes of user data, cache and dalvik, when I boot up on CM7 my wifi settings still work. I would have expected I needed to reenter all of those settings. Or does this stuff get saved to the SD or internal storage...normal? If it is not, then why are data wipes in Recovery not cleanning up my files?
I've not had this problem.
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I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?
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Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are not wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed on the AOSP ROM?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
Maybe try another different AOSP ROM?
I know the SD interacts quite a bit more with the SD compared to Sense ROMs - again, maybe copy SD card contents to PC, reformat SD to FAT32 either on the PC or in phone, maybe both - then d/l an AOSP ROM on a clean SD, see if it's still wonky.
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Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
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Sense ROMS work great, its AOSP roms that are giving my phone fits lol. Well last night I tried something new.
-I changed my radio from 2.15.00.09.01 to 2.15.00.07.28 Official Froyo radio.
-Installed CM7 #14 from the EMMC versus SD CARD.
-"Hit Wipe All" in recovery about 10 times in a row before I flashed CM7
I hope changing the radio to "official" is what does it. Anyone running AOSP roms using the leaked radio 2.15.00.09.01 ?
Radio?
Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.
I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.
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Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.
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Well it turns out that the radio version I was using was not the issue because the phone became unresponsive this morning when I tried to wake it up. To be specific, it does allow me to swipe to unlock but painfully in slow motion.
So that rules at the radio...which leaves me with its either the ROM/Kernel or some rogue app.
So this morning I wiped all user data in recovery and reinstalled CM7#14 but this time I did not log on to my google account during setup and have not installed any apps. So far no issues, but the true test is trying to wake the phone up tomorrow in the morning. If there are no issues, then that solves it (ITS A FREAKING APP).
If it is a rogue app that has been haunting me these past couple of weeks then who has the best way to identify which one is the offender? Why would a rogue app only affect me using AOSP roms and not Sense?
My suspicions are with..(Locale, Beautiful Widgets, ADW EX, Swype, CardioTrainer, Handcent) but I guess process of elimination is what its going to take.
Thanks to all for the help and recommendations.
cougar618 said:
I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.
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Please tell me u meant 7gb not 7tb
If you have a SD card that huge I beg you to tell me where to get it
I've heard of a 2tb SD but they haven't released it
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just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.
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just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.
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Good stuff. Glad to see it all finally worked out.
Hi there,
I've been using Froyo 2.2 for some time but had some SD Card issues (Unexpected SD Card removal) and decided to check if flashing a new ROM will do any good. I've installed Cyanogen Mod 7 but after using it for half a day I wanted stock Sense back so flashed AuraxTSense v8.3. It looks nice, works quite fast at the beginning (and not knowing why it becomes slower after some time - observed during mass sms deletion) but boots ~7 mins - that's way tooooo long. Which one should I try next? Or maybe there is something wrong I've done while flashing? Wiped everything but dalvik before flashing.
LeeDroid's i believe is the best sense rom.
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Boots 7 MINS?
For the first time or always?
Because if you install anew ROM, it will take some time to rebulid the cache and get ready, so 7 mins at the first boot is normal.
But if it boots 7 mins always, you've done something wrong.
Also LeeDroid is fast. Boots up very quickly - at least for me it did.
Indeed it boots slower than Leedroid, but not 7 minutes. Both are good ROMs, but the current (and some of the previous) version of ROM has some memory leaks reported from some users including me. I switched to Aura in hope to find remedy for this, and been good so far.
Also both have issues with the Internet app, googling freezes the browser and it force closes itself after a minute.
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yeah, it was first boot, other took something like 3-4 minutes, and that's still too long :/
what if my Desire is S-On even if I have rooted it with Unrevoked? also, Hboot is 0.93. does it make any difference when trying to flash different roms?
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ok, trying to flash LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD, will see how long will it take.
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16 mins of first boot, keep fingers crossed for my problems with unexpected SD removal
I've flashed LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD for the second time and there's no A2SD actually!! or I'am so tired that I can't find settings to force apps to install in SD. all apps install in internal storage and only some can be moved to SD... sooooooo annoying, it's 3:50 am here and I am so fuc*ing tired but have to have phone fully working today :/ aaaaargh!!!!
ReflexTSense HD is pretty nice and fast
got it on SD too so I'll probably try it now as AuraxTSense had A2SD brilliantly working.
How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Apps2sd is working perfect in leedroid. Your reading is what fails.
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with regard to first boot im always pleasantly surprised with AOSP roms esp Oxygen and Gingervillain ...they boot very fast and have gprs configured and working from the very beginning !
GV booted really fast for me.
stability is another issue
oops sorry - i read the title of the thread properly now....you meant sense roms....please ignore
leedroid roms do not take too long to boot. ap2sd feature work 100 percent..i guess the no ap2sd rom would boot up faster than the one with.
starburst is the best so far av got 700mb internal memory and rom is super fast
ok guys, it was my mistake (or rather lack of knowledge), so I'm coming back to LeeDroid. but will try No-A2SD first because I think those SD Card issues are not gone so moving Dalvik to SD would be risky.
I have noticed for most of his roms that he has been stating in the OP that you must partition your SD card. Is that really necessary, I am quite happy with how the latest CyanogenMod since it is working for me, but would like to try out his newest Kingdom rom due to it being Sense 3.0. So my questionis:
Would it be ok for me to just do factory reset, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik and then flashing his rom along with the pri downgrade and stock kernal?
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I have noticed for most of his roms that he has been stating in the OP that you must partition your SD card. Is that really necessary, I am quite happy with how the latest CyanogenMod since it is working for me, but would like to try out his newest Kingdom rom due to it being Sense 3.0. So my questionis:
Would it be ok for me to just do factory reset, wipe cache, and wipe dalvik and then flashing his rom along with the pri downgrade and stock kernal?
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I know that you can do that, however, you partition your SD Card so that it can store ROM cache and application cache without taking up your internal memory. These new 3.0 ROMs are extremely large and take up a lot of internal storage on your phone. So if you don't partition your SD you will be out of memory on your phone really fast. Hope that helps and answers your question.
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I know that you can do that, however, you partition your SD Card so that it can store ROM cache and application cache without taking up your internal memory. These new 3.0 ROMs are extremely large and take up a lot of internal storage on your phone. So if you don't partition your SD you will be out of memory on your phone really fast. Hope that helps and answers your question.
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Yes that does help, thanks. Also, you wouldn't by any chance know if we have to use that stock kernal, do you? Are other kernals compatible? I have seen that some people are using the Tiamat one, but I would like to use the latest Savage Zen if its possible.
You don't need to flash the stock kernel fyi. It's already baked in. He put it there to d/l in case you try an alternate kernel and don't like the results, you can always flash back to stock kernel. Most alternate kernels Bork the camera and our video capability. I have only stuck with the stock kernels, i have no suggestions on alternates.
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Yes that does help, thanks. Also, you wouldn't by any chance know if we have to use that stock kernal, do you? Are other kernals compatible? I have seen that some people are using the Tiamat one, but I would like to use the latest Savage Zen if its possible.
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As far as I know, none of the alternative Kernels work 100% since the devs don't have the actual release to rip apart. Most of the kernels were built for Froyo and can run on Gingerbread and Sense 3.0, but like KB112 said it will bork the cam.
I came from CM7 as well, I loved it but I missed sense, this kingdom rom virus is working on is really nice, unless you are a sense hater I recommend trying it. I would also just go ahead and partition your sd card, roms and just getting bigger and bigger and htc still havent figured out that we always need more system space then they give us.
it is not required, but it will give you a lot more space to install your apps from the market
Ok thanks guys, now I guess I just need to get my new card and then I will partition it
Sense 3.0 Roms...cant get past White HTC EVO 4g screen
I have been having a MAJOR problem flashing any of Viruses Sense 3.0 roms. I've tried A0.1 and A0.2. I have partitioned the SD card (2GB on ext3, the SD card is the one the phone came with), wiped, wiped, and wiped again. The rom installs on the phone fine, but when I try to flash it, it never goes past the white HTC EVO 4G screen. The white screen stays on for about 20 seconds, goes off, then comes back on again, and this cycle happens over and over again. I've let the phone sit for up to 15 minutes at a time, but it never goes past the white screen. I've never seen the rom's splash screen. Multiple battery pulls and restarts haven't helped. I can't figure out what is going on. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. I tried flashing the DoubleShot rom, same results. Thanks in advance.
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I have been having a MAJOR problem flashing any of Viruses Sense 3.0 roms. I've tried A0.1 and A0.2. I have partitioned the SD card (2GB on ext3, the SD card is the one the phone came with), wiped, wiped, and wiped again. The rom installs on the phone fine, but when I try to flash it, it never goes past the white HTC EVO 4G screen. The white screen stays on for about 20 seconds, goes off, then comes back on again, and this cycle happens over and over again. I've let the phone sit for up to 15 minutes at a time, but it never goes past the white screen. I've never seen the rom's splash screen. Multiple battery pulls and restarts haven't helped. I can't figure out what is going on. If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it. I tried flashing the DoubleShot rom, same results. Thanks in advance.
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Not sure of your issues as it both had worked well for me. (though I am back on gingersense b4 until a bit later tonight) You may want to do a bit of reading in the roms thread.
As a side note though the original card is only class 2 (read quite slow) and therefore will not be of much use to run data or apps from anyway. 16gb class 10 cards can be gotten on amazon for about 25 - 30 bones. (maybe cheaper)
Thanks for the response. I was wondering if the SD card was the problem. I will look into getting another one. Just curious to see if anyone else had any ideas.
can anyone help?
i had troubles flashing last night. mine would actually hang on the white evo 4g screen and not go any further. i would pull the battery and reflash and it would work.i must have flashed about 6 or 7 times trying to get everything in order. finally got all the icons to show up and seemed to work right except the weather would crash and the gallery would just show a white screen, never partitioned the sd card though. so now i am loading all my stuff back to the sd card after a partition. there was two parts to the partition, first size i put was 1 gig and the second size it asked for i put 512k. i don't know what each one is for but what do i do after i finish transfering everything back on. just flash as normal? do i actually see the extra partition and put something in it?
from what i saw last night this sense 3.0 is true eye candy. you can't get enough of it. it looks really sexy!
Hey Guys,
I've been some flashing lately and I'm not sure what caused the problem. I've been using SprintLovers Rom with no issues since Feb. But when it stopped being supported, so I switched over to [ ROM / 5-3 ] Calkulin's EViO 3 v1.0 Beta 2 [ 4.12 l Gingerbread l Tweaked ] (which IO loved by the way)but I kept getting constant reboots. I would be using Navigation or watching a video with Rock Player and within one min , my phone would go into a boot loop and stay rebooting until and I flashed the rom again. It drove me nuts and I couldnt take it anymore.
So I reformatted everything (even deleted my card by accident) and installed [MikRoms] - [6/7/2011] - MikG v1.03 - Re-Engineered GB Sense 2.1 + 3.0 (which I also love) and the reboots are not as frequent but they are still happening. The difference is that with this rom, its getting stuck in a boot loop at the HTC EVO 4G screen that you see when it boots up. If it does boot up, the phone gets to the Sense screen and reboots again. So the only way I can get it to boot back up is to flash the rom again from recovery.
I have a 32GB Duracell Microsd Card I got off Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004AM6SOG
It worked perfectly with Sprintlovers rom, But as soon as I reformatted and flashed Calkuns rom, the reboots started,. I even tried using Nandroind and going back to a Sprintlovers backup and the reboots were happening on that rom and I never had issues with that rom.
So basically I'm trying to narrow down what is causing the rebooting. I thought maybe the memory card was going bad, but how can I tell? So what I started thinking was maybe my bootloader needs to be refomattted or cleaned? But I dont know how. Then after talking to Nick1313, who helped me reformat and get my phone running again, we started thinking maybe the internal memory of the phone has gotten corrupted. I assume that Android looks to boot the OS from the internal memory and then looks to the SD card for apps and etc....
Is there a way to test my SD card to see if its ok? is there a way to see tell if my internal memory is corrupted and if so can it be reformatted and fixed?
I saw some people having a similar issue in the Galaxy S forums,but no one seemed to have a solution.
My last resort is unrooting and returning my phone to the store tomorrow. The only problem with that is , I know they are gonna have to order me one and it wont be in until Monday or whatever and the is annoying.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Snarky Answer: Well, I now know which memory card NOT to get.
Serious: I really doubt your SD card has much to do with this. Internal memory does have the potential of getting corrupted. That said, it's not likely.
It's obvious that you had good specific reasons for flashing the rom you've flashed. My advice is to flash one that you've not flashed and see if your phone's behaviour is any different.
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Snarky Answer: Well, I now know which memory card NOT to get.
Serious: I really doubt your SD card has much to do with this. Internal memory does have the potential of getting corrupted. That said, it's not likely.
It's obvious that you had good specific reasons for flashing the rom you've flashed. My advice is to flash one that you've not flashed and see if your phone's behaviour is any different.
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Thanks for the reply. I actually Flashed back to Sprint Lovers Rom last night to after deleting everything again and reboots were still happening. I flashed back to MikG rom this morning. No reboots as of yet. But it rebooted on me 5 times last night before I flashed Sprintlovers.
GPS has been the main app I've busing when the rebooting starts. So I'm testing my phone right now with having it map to a far location and keeping my screen on to see how long it takes to make my phone reboot. Right now I'm 3mins into the test.
Turns out the processor in my phone is bad and Sprint has to order me a new one
I cant tell what MIUI to go with, I have no idea what the difference is between AU and XJ, can someone please enlighten me to the differences and which one I should go with
I have not used AU , but what i can say is that MIUI XJ is top notch rom ! The thread is a very friendly place where people are always happy to help . I personally use the x-part version , very stable and smooth.
Im using the XJ version now, very nice, apart from one thing for some reason or another it deleted all my Music off my SD Card while it was installing
And then all my music magically re-appears, very weird
If you install a new ROM it may take time for it to scan your SD card for music and other files. I think this is normal.
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If you install a new ROM it may take time for it to scan your SD card for music and other files. I think this is normal.
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And all my music is magically gone again, this is very very strange
Its even failing to see it in the built in file manager on the SD card
Did you just start your phone or disconnected it from the pc? The card might not be mounted and checked for errors. The bigger and slower your card the longer that takes. But should be a matter of seconds.
Nope its completely taken away all my music.
Cant even see it if I plug it into a pc now, shame I really like MIUI but I can't stay on a rom that randomly deletes files off my SD Card.
Its deleted a file called Temp as well that housed all my apk's. It can see everything else fine though.
Back to the less pretty cyanogenmod
I was using XJ A2SD version for over 6 months and now using AU version to get ICS.
I dont find lots of difference in both. Both are smooth and stable. So if you want GB use XJ and if you want latest ICS go for AU. Simple decision.