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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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Easy. CyanogenMod is arguably the most popular mod/rom out there... HIGHLY developed and supported. I believe it allows Overclocking to 1.5 out of the box. There's a RC2 (Release Candidate) out there for Gingerbread, that's CM7, or there's the latest Stable release 6.1.1, which is Froyo. But honestly, a Release Candidate is ALMOST as good as a stable.
the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
If you're coming from the MyTouch 4G, I'd recommend you check out Virtuous, as well. It's a Sense ROM, so it's a bit different than stock, but out of the box it's overclocked to 1GHz (highest you can go without needing to change voltage, I believe), and you can flash the advanced kernel if you want full overclock control.
I was previously overclocking to 1.2GHz, but the last 2 versions of Virtuous I've stuck with the stock kernel (that's included in the ROM) and am really pleased with it thus far.
There are other things that can affect your phone's speed, including what's running in the background, what you have syncing, etc.
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
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tackleberry said:
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
From my permarooted HTC G2 via XDA app
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Yes, Sense is HTC's user interface overlay. Keep in mind that you don't have to use their launcher - I use LauncherPro, but keep Sense for the superior camera, music, and contacts applications. Just a thought, but everyone has their preferences (hence there's so many ROMs. )
tackleberry said:
the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
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Use either CM 6.1.1 Stable (Froyo) or CM 7 Nightly's (Gingerbread) with Pershoot's latest kernel. My G2 at 1.5ghz is as fast if not slightly faster than my friends MT4G at a similar OC level.
i use launcher pro now, im just not a fan of all the overlays they do. thats one thing about my mt4g, it sucks with all the overlay especially the contacts app and the phone app, it seems like it takes twice as long to load up.
CM 7 Nightly's INSTALLING now as i type, hoping for the best! thanks for the info folks, if i like it, ill be sure to donate a beer
edit...wifi does not work on this for some reason...
edit...wifi works, did a reboot...
I am having a problem with getting the google apps on the phone, i cant get to the market, or gmail it just opens and closes immediately, i did see there is a google addon to flash and im pretty certain how to do that from searching, but i cannot find for the life of me where that actual zip file is.
EDIT! HAHA SECONDS AFTER I POSTED ASKING FOR THE FILE I FOUND IT...HAHAHA.
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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goister said:
OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2
Hi, I`m trying to find out which is the best kernel to overclock my stock htc evo sense. I still want the camera & everything else to woek. I was looking at using x99kernel-sense-20110411.zip or netarchy-toastmod, Stable: 4.3.1 Beta: 4.3.4 but I dont know which netarchy on to choose & which one is better out of these 2? or this one netarchy-toastmod-4.3.4-cfs-havs-less-nosbc-universal-signed.zip. Or is there a better kernel. thanx
Start with Netarchy 4.3.2-noHAVS-noSBC-noUV. Everything works with this kernel, however, overclock incrementally to test stability. I'm not a fan of overclocking the EVO. I look for a kernel that gives me the best speed & stability as-is.
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Recently there's been an upswing in the number of stock AOSP ROMs posted in the Development section. At least, for me: I've been coming around for a couple of months and I don't think I've ever seen that many ROMs with just the 'standard' Google experience to offer.
I know these threads are a dime a dozen, but considering the many choices available, I figured I'd ask.
What is, in your opinion, the best stock AOSP ROM currently in development; and obviously why.
Just from the first two pages in Development, there's the following:
- gingerbread-evo-deck
- CM7
- Savaged-Zen RC3/RC4
- Salvage-Mod
& I'm sure there's others. So, which would you recommend and why? What features of one that the other doesn't have make it a better experience for you?
If you want bare bone stock, then pick salvage mod. CM7 has some tweaks to it, but great. Deck's is parallel to CM7, more stable fore some people. Savaged-zen built there own rom, designed to run perfect with their kernel, it has tweaks to it as well.
xfusejc said:
... I don't think I've ever seen that many ROMs with just the 'standard' Google experience to offer.
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The standard Google experience is just that...standard, however, it allows you the freedom to expand on their open environment, so to speak.
What is, in your opinion, the best stock AOSP ROM currently in development; and obviously why.
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My friend, teh roxxorz, gave you an excellent response on this and I will reiterate. SalvageMod and OMGB is as close to the "standard Google experience" you aforementioned, as you're going to get. Yet, you have the ability to customize it to "your" liking. For example, I use SalvageMod 1.3 nightly #26 along with LauncherPro Plus that I've tweaked for speed and my device is very fast and stable. CM7, without question, has the greatest following and support and it has been modified & tweaked based on user requests. I've yet to flash the other 2 you referenced.
....What features of one that the other doesn't have make it a better experience for you?
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Questions like these are difficult to answer because they are subjective. You listed 4 popular AOSP roms. I would suggest that you flash each one in the following order-- most basic to arguably the most advanced:
1. SalvageMod
2. CM7
3. Decks
4. Savaged-Zen
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dougjamal said:
The standard Google experience is just that...standard, however, it allows you the freedom to expand on their open environment, so to speak.
My friend, teh roxxorz, gave you an excellent response on this and I will reiterate. SalvageMod and OMGB is as close to the "standard Google experience" you aforementioned, as you're going to get. Yet, you have the ability to customize it to "your" liking. For example, I use SalvageMod 1.3 nightly #26 along with LauncherPro Plus that I've tweaked for speed and my device is very fast and stable. CM7, without question, has the greatest following and support and it has been modified & tweaked based on user requests. I've yet to flash the other 2 you referenced.
Questions like these are difficult to answer because they are subjective. You listed 4 popular AOSP roms. I would suggest that you flash each one in the following order-- most basic to arguably the most advanced:
1. SalvageMod
2. CM7
3. Decks
4. SavageZen
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So Decks and SavageZen are more advanced than CM7? That's news to me.
& thanks for both replies. I really appreciate it.
xfusejc said:
So Decks and SavageZen are more advanced than CM7? That's news to me.
& thanks for both replies. I really appreciate it.
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I did state that they are "arguably" more advanced, however, my use of the term advanced is not to say that they are better. Maybe I should state that they are "arguably" more modified. Would that suffice?
for what its worth ive tried cm7 and like it alot. I'm not running deck evo. i like that 2. thinkin of trying out savage-zen in the near future. just try them all n see what u like the most.. just play around with them
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I did state that they are "arguably" more advanced, however, my use of the term advanced is not say that they are better. Maybe I should state that they are "arguably" more modified. Would that suffice?
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No, I understood how you used it.
I just figured that CM7 had the most improvement on the Google source code, and was therefore the more advanced in the group.
Again, thanks for replying
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No, I understood how you used it.
I just figured that CM7 had the most improvement on the Google source code, and was therefore the more advanced in the group.
Again, thanks for replying
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Understood and I thank you for the clarification........Take care and enjoy the rest of your day.
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Try Salvage Mod
"Googly eyes"
From my experience, (and I haven't seen it mentioned), Evervolv is the most basic and stock google gingerbread experience I've seen. It is basically completely stock GB, and has NO modifications at all, really. No lock screen mods, no notification toggles, no tweaks, just pure Gingerbread. Deck's and CM7 are very simlar, as Deck's is based off CM7. For some reason Decks is far more stable on my Evo though. I haven't used savaged zen in a good while, so can't comment on that. Salvage Mod is by far my favorite AOSP rom, and think you should give that a shot. It is simply a fabulous and tremendously stable rom. Have fun.
hey guys i finally got my gf's gingerbread evo rooted, and i want to put the latest synergy rom on it, since i love it on my thunderbolt. im just running nightlies on mine, but i dont want to really update hers all the time. which one is the best? are the nightlies as stable on the evo as the thunderbolt or should i go with the rls 1? i want good battery life, the 3d rosie screen transitions, sense 3.0, and preferably 4g. it looks like rls 1 doesnt have 3d, do the nightlies? also any recommendations for roms you guys like are appreciated i know its better to just play around till you find one you like but i dont want to keep flashing her phone lol. anyway thanks in advance!
edit: by nightlies i mean the kingdom port nightlies, and rls1 is the one that has the godmode option, just to clear that up lol. im not missing any am i?
RLS1 is best for themes, mods, and stability. It's also device-optimized (at least in the EVO's case) so there's more room in /data (source). Try godmode or non-GM as you wish - her phone may respond well or poorly to it, or anywhere in between.
For good battery life, look into a combination of the Freedom kernel (More Freedom 0.8 is what I'm running, and it's great) and No Frills CPU Control (or other CPU control app of your choice). There are many carousel mods for Synergy; show her the thread and let her pick whichever one she likes best.
Synergy is a Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM, unlike a few other non-mainline Synergy branches, so she won't have the full Sense 3.0 experience. If you want that for sure, look at the Kingdom port - I hear many good things about it.
And remember, be safe, use a nandroid.
Great write-up, Aeltar... ... As for 'my opinion' of "which Synergy rom", I prefer Synergy RLS-1 non G-mode.
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Aeltar said:
RLS1 is best for themes, mods, and stability. It's also device-optimized (at least in the EVO's case) so there's more room in /data (source). Try godmode or non-GM as you wish - her phone may respond well or poorly to it, or anywhere in between.
For good battery life, look into a combination of the Freedom kernel (More Freedom 0.8 is what I'm running, and it's great) and No Frills CPU Control (or other CPU control app of your choice). There are many carousel mods for Synergy; show her the thread and let her pick whichever one she likes best.
Synergy is a Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM, unlike a few other non-mainline Synergy branches, so she won't have the full Sense 3.0 experience. If you want that for sure, look at the Kingdom port - I hear many good things about it.
And remember, be safe, use a nandroid.
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What exactly does Freedom do to achieve better battery? Undervolt when not in heavy use? What methods/tweak specifically? The first post in the main thread ddint say much. I don't want something that reduces my synch/update frequencies without my control.
Freedom undervolts by a static value of either 0, 50, 100, or 150 mV, corresponding to Stock, Less, More, and Aggressive. It also has several governers that lock the clock low when not in use (Smartass, InteractiveX, powersave, perhaps more of them do so). It won't alter your sync frequency - I don't believe any kernel can do so.
Synergy RLS1 without Godmode is the best one I have tested. Most things work. I can't really say anything about the nightlies, I'm afraid to put anything less than a release candidate on my phone, lol. Godmode, I have found, performs just as well as no godmode, but HTC Hub is all messed up and force closes on godmode. Also with nongodmode, you can update your PRL and profile as normal. The 3D carousel isn't there because it has the landscape option for the home screen. This is where Sense 2.1 kicks in (from Evo Shift). I beleive the camera is also sense 2.1. Also, 75 of the effects on the camera don't work on either synergy release for me, and HDR doesn't really make a noticeable difference. The panorama feature works though, and is pretty cool. Just flash em and see what you think.
awsome guys thanks a lot! ive got the rls1 running on it now, where can i find the 3d carousel mods at? also does ziggy make an evo kernel? ive been running his since i got my thunderbolt and its the best battery life/performance mix ive found
oh and synergy doesnt have working 4g does it? ive only seen one rom that claimed it did i dont remember which one
All Synergy mods are in Post #2 of the main thread.
The only Sense GB kernels right now are Freedom (by lithidcm) and Golden Monkey (by netarchy). Freedom is more developed, but I'm sure Netarchy's next release (1.2 probably) will be a major showing. I recommend More Freedom, but make sure to use Synergy-GM kernel for GM and Universal for non-GM.
Synergy has fully working 4G, and gives me much better reception than any AOSP ROM I've tried (only Deck and CM7, admittedly).
Anyone know why with any Synergy rom I flash (specifically NIghtly) my phone is running very slow and lags. I'm noob but I'm was under the idea that ROMs are supposed to speed up your phone, not slow them down. Any ideas?
Make sure you're wiping cache and dalvik cache, and try flashing both GM and non-GM versions to make sure that isn't causing an issue with your phone. A complete wipe (everything but the SD card; VR Superwipe is a good idea simply for efficiency of clicks) is strongly recommended - remember, you can simply nand data and sd-ext and restore those to get your environment back from Sense to Sense or AOSP to AOSP ROMs.