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[Q] Newb Q: Froyo Radio #?

Hey guys, I just rooted my phone and am looking into installing a new ROM. I'm trying to gather all the info i need, and one thing that keeps popping up is the radio. Most ROMs need a certain radio. Som here come the questions:
What radio does a stock Dinc use (Background, I bought my phone in december, so it is a newer model)?
Does Rooting using unRevoked change the radio (thats what I used)?
How do I check the radio?
Thanks for all the help guys. I looked all over the place and couldnt find answers to these questions, but i might have just missed them. If that's the case, I apologize for the repeat.
EDIT: FOUND THE RADIO!
For others with this same question, its in HBOOT (Turn phone off, then hold power and down volume)

BigD603 said:
Hey guys, I just rooted my phone and am looking into installing a new ROM. I'm trying to gather all the info i need, and one thing that keeps popping up is the radio. Most ROMs need a certain radio. Som here come the questions:
What radio does a stock Dinc use (Background, I bought my phone in december, so it is a newer model)?
2.15.00.07.28 most likely, since it is the official 2.2 radio version.
Does Rooting using unRevoked change the radio (thats what I used)?
No, it does not.
How do I check the radio?
Menu - Settings - About Phone - Software - radio version is labeled as Baseband Version
Thanks for all the help guys. I looked all over the place and couldnt find answers to these questions, but i might have just missed them. If that's the case, I apologize for the repeat.
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Also check here for all the radio information you need to know about, including all the versions of it. I run 2.15.00.11.19, works just fine for me.

The stock Radio is 2.15.00.07.28, and that should be fine for most any ROM. Unrevoked does not change the radio; and your's, being a newer phone, will be up to date. You can check what Radio version by going to menu>settings>about phone>software infomation and it will be list under "Baseband version". Hope this helps.
Edit: ^Sucker! Beat me to it...

Wow!
Thanks for the super fast reply guys! That method of finding the radio is WAY easier than going to HBOOT.

Bennies?
Is there any benefit to using a different radio, ie one with a higher number?

BigD603 said:
Is there any benefit to using a different radio, ie one with a higher number?
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No one can give you a definitive answer to that because it varies from phone to phone based on their own unique variables. In other words, if I install the 9.01 baseband on my phone here in Melbourne, FL, odds are I'm not going to get the same results as someone in Detroit or Orlando. It may be better or it may be worse.
The only way to know if you'll get better performance from a particular baseband version is to give it a test drive for a few days.

Hmm, interesting. All this rooting stuff is so complicated. But I like it.

BigD603 said:
Hmm, interesting. All this rooting stuff is so complicated. But I like it.
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Be very careful with radio flashing! If you do it wrong (i.e. pull the battery during) you'll brick it. I get really fast GPS locks and about the same 3G with the 11.19, but as others have said, it really varies location to location.

[Q] First Time Flashing and Bricking It!

Right please forgive my noobishness (is this even a word?) but Im really worried about flashing my phone for the first time.
I have partitioned my card, titanium backed up and created a nandroid back up now all thats left is flashing.
Im planning to flash this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
What I am worried about is bricking it without lack of knowledge of radio files and how to properly do it. Something about GSM and CDMA?
Plus I saw in the thread this: "Use either Amon RA or clockworkmod Recovery < also available via rom manager from the market"
Why do I need to use them?
Help please preferably with a step-to-step guide?
Thanks in advance.

Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189

Do I need to switch S-off?
Do I need to flash the radio files and what is the difference if I do or not?
Plus should I use ROM Manager to install the new ROM?

Wait just noticed my current baseband version is one you can download from the Leedroid site, so does that mean I dont have to flash a radio file?

you never MUST flash radios, it is only a possibility
my advice, since you are obviously new to this, dont change radio, i used the radio that came with the phone since december and it worked OK.
usually you should consider upgrading your radio if it doesnt work well e.g. bad reception, data or wifi problems etc.
when you are more confident with flashing, go S-OFF (which is super easy, seriously) and learn to use FASTBOOT which is the safest method of flashing radios or recoveries

[Q] Questions about flashing radios

Hi,
I just flashed a 2.3.3 stock-rooted ROM and well, as everyone is saying, the battery is draining way too fast!
On the actual post where i got the ROM, they provide a radio, but im a little curious about this who radio thingy.
1- I have a nandroid, restoring will bring back old radio?
2- is there a way to backup the radio if the answer to question1 is NO
3- what are the risks, and does it happen alot?, or is it a rare case?
4- they say it can brick the phone, is there any possible way to get out of that state?

1- I have a nandroid, restoring will bring back old radio?
No
2- is there a way to backup the radio if the answer to question1 is NO
Download your original radio from this thread
3- what are the risks, and does it happen alot?, or is it a rare case?
Just read the Radio Thread.
4- they say it can brick the phone, is there any possible way to get out of that state?
Once it is bricked, just send it for warranty. Most probably, they will change with a new one since they can't really know what you have done to the phone.

Hmmm, if it gets bricked, then i wont have my phone for MONTHS! since im in a different country than where i brought it, and i dont have HTC support here.
anyway, i couldnt find my radio type in the link you gave me - mine being:
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3
but ofc this is the one that came with the 1.32 FW when i was degrading, so can i just extract the radio.img from the PD98IMG.zip file and the flash it? or will it cause problems?

You don't (can't) flash radio's in the same way as a ROM. Read the radio thread.
PD98IMG or the safer method IMO is fastboot (search if unsure what fastboot is).
Sent from my Ericsson T39m

na, i know what fastboot is....
but what im saying is...say i update to a new radio, and its worse than the last, can't i just take the radio.img from the 1.32 PD98IMG.zip file and use fastboot to flash it back?
Or say i found the 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3.zip radio file, can i flash that?
OR is the only way to go back to the radio by flashing a RUU?(because i heard that installs a new radio).
i have radio and eng S-OFF.

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
but what im saying is...say i update to a new radio, and its worse than the last, can't i just take the radio.img from the 1.32 PD98IMG.zip file and use fastboot to flash it back?
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Not tested that method sorry.
CodeNameUnknown1 said:
Or say i found the 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3.zip radio file, can i flash that?
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Yes.
The great thing about Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF is it allows you to play with radio's.
Just to clarify, and this is aimed at others new to all this, the term "flash" in this case is referring to using fastboot command (think of it like adb but with phone in HBOOT - put very simplistically) to push the file to the phone.

kol man, thanks, ...
i think the 1st method would work, cuz at the end of the day, when flashing the whole PD98IMG.zip it flashes the radio along with other stuff ... so just taking it out would, i presume, would work ...
i'll update my radio soon, maybe, and if its bad, then i'll try the method! ...

No worries.
In theory method one should be ok as the zip is essentially a bundle of files and scripts. The only reason for hesitation is some .img files are slightly modified specifically for us with PD98IMG files.
But if it does work (and hopefully if not you don't get a brick) that would be good news as I often hunt down non PD98IMG versions of things and it would save me some effort.
Please, if not too much trouble, do keep us updated (no pun).

wait .... by doing that i can get it bricked?!!?!?!?!? loool
then i guess im not doing it!, lol, im still in love with my desire hd!!!

IF, a BIG IF, the radio.img file within a ROM PD98IMG file has been tweaked in some way there could be a risk that pushing the file through fastboot could brick the phone. Doing anything with Radio files is possible the most dangerous thing you can do (certainly it's the only thing I do frequently that still makes me hold my breath).
My advice would be, if there is a "normal" zip file of the radio I'd take that and push it via fastboot (after checking the md5hash).
That may be an answer, see if the md5hash of the radio.img is the same from both sources.

i cant find my original exact radio.
i have found some radio near my current one( 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3) but they have a difference in the letters (i.e. Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M - without the 'U' and its .26_M, no M3 or .15)
whats the difference, and what do they mean? -- i googled this but couldnt find an answer.

I have a question for radio.
(will borow these theme, if you dont mind)
I have ship s-off (i read that i can't flash radio becouse of this)
my Radio is 26.03.02.15_M3
This is an old version, and i would like to have a new version, becouse i have a lot of problems by flashing newer custom roms, wich have other radios recomended i quess :? ?
1. question: Is possible that i have problems flashing new rooms becouse i have an old radio ?
2. question: how to get from ship s-off to eng s-off? The standard root procedure dont work :s
Thanx for answers

gagi´d hype said:
I have ship s-off (i read that i can't flash radio becouse of this)
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You NEED Radio (ship) S-OFF (as a start)
gagi´d hype said:
1. question: Is possible that i have problems flashing new rooms becouse i have an old radio ?
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No. But some ROM's work better with more up to date radio. What ROM are you wishing to try?
gagi´d hype said:
2. question: how to get from ship s-off to eng s-off? The standard root procedure dont work :s
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Follow the guides in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403

Mr_JMM said:
You NEED Radio (ship) S-OFF (as a start)
No. But some ROM's work better with more up to date radio. What ROM are you wishing to try?
Follow the guides in the development forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
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I have tryed a lot of rooms, at the and i have an Revolutin HD with adw louncher and density on 180 (the best screan for me)
I flashed then Revolution HD with GB, i think its an 5.1.3 version, and the rom dont work properly.. I have load again the adw louncher and do the density, but there was a looot of bugs, with people app, with screen (lot of freezes) etc..
i dont know what is the problems, is it the radio or just GB room don't allow the unsense louncher and desity settings..

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
i cant find my original exact radio.
i have found some radio near my current one( 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.15_M3) but they have a difference in the letters (i.e. Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M - without the 'U' and its .26_M, no M3 or .15).
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Honest answer is I am unsure other than various protocols by various networks / manufactures (The "U" ROM I believe was provided by a specific network). There is something in there that determines if it is specific to HSDPA vs EDGE etc. but again, my memory fails me.
If you're willing to go on say so alone go for the second one as that's been tested thoroughly however, it is old so if you feel your signal, wifi, GPS isn't as good as it should be and when you're feeling more confident it could be worth trying some of the more recent ones
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Going back to something I said earlier, a PD98IMG file can be JUST a radio. If you don't want to use fastboot commands then here is a thread that contains PD98IMG versions of the radios.

gagi´d hype said:
I have tryed a lot of rooms, at the and i have an Revolutin HD with adw louncher and density on 180 (the best screan for me)
I flashed then Revolution HD with GB, i think its an 5.1.3 version, and the rom dont work properly.. I have load again the adw louncher and do the density, but there was a looot of bugs, with people app, with screen (lot of freezes) etc..
i dont know what is the problems, is it the radio or just GB room don't allow the unsense louncher and desity settings..
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Not every ROM (and with it the Kernel) and especially home launcher apps are happy with resolution changes. Whenever you experience bugs like this the first step is reset things like resolution and then if still bugs remove any launcher you have added the ROM.
ARHD (Revolution) is a fantastic ROM and should be bug free.
Try LeeDroids as that is my favourite and I've never had a problem with it.

Mr_JMM said:
Not every ROM (and with it the Kernel) and especially home launcher apps are happy with resolution changes. Whenever you experience bugs like this the first step is reset things like resolution and then if still bugs remove any launcher you have added the ROM.
ARHD (Revolution) is a fantastic ROM and should be bug free.
Try LeeDroids as that is my favourite and I've never had a problem with it.
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I have flash to the eng s-off now
I see taht a lot of rooms have problems with resolution settings, (i am a litlle angry becouse the resolution on standard sense display is like the people are blind )
That is why i use an adw louncher, and on 2.2 ARHD everything work perfect..
i hope that i will solve the problem with radio, (if not i wil goo to standard density)
ok, thank you very much for the help..

gagi´d hype said:
i hope that i will solve the problem with radio, (if not i wil goo to standard density)
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The radio has nothing to do with your bugs.
The radio controls mobile signal, wifi, gps and bluetooth.

Desire 2.3.3 with no Radio or Root :(

Right here is my problem, I had a rooted Desire which I was trying to unroot and in the past I had used a RUU to do it. This time round the RUU didnt work due to Hboot versions so I downgraded to a Froyo Rom. The catch is that Froyo Rom did not have a Radio and stupid me I did not flash a radio. Then I ran the Gingerbread RUU from HTCs website so basically at the moment I am sitting with a Desire that is running 2.3.3 stock but unable to make any calls due to the lack of a radio. I cant seem to be able to find a way to root the phone again and flash a radio. Any help will be appreciated.

wrong section dude

ask in Q/A
RUU comes with radio.. so find exactly ur problem then ask. and u dont need to flash radio if u have done this once..
and u can check if u have a radio installed and which version in the settings. about phone

Er.. No radio, no phone. I don't imagine it would give a slightest flicker of life!

zaher.bahouth said:
ask in Q/A
RUU comes with radio.. so find exactly ur problem then ask. and u dont need to flash radio if u have done this once..
and u can check if u have a radio installed and which version in the settings. about phone
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Many thanks I checked from settings and the RUU does indeed come with a radio, the problem was my sim card. Thank you very much.
Mods please feel free to remove the thread.

[Q] Advice for 1st time radio flash

Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon

I recently flashed radio as well.
I did it with this one :
http://d-h.st/T1X
My problem was that when calling the other side heard them self twice. And its gone
and yes, It got a lot to do with wifi, 3G, calling. and most of your connectivity .

igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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Radios are not EDIT: ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.

igloo_01 said:
Hi all,
I'm fairly new to the world of rooting/custom ROMS - I rooted my Desire HD a couple of weeks ago and have installed a couple of ROMS since then (start on ice cold sandwich and curerntly on JellyTime). So far it's going well, but my wiFi signal does not seem to be very good. I know that installing a different radio may help with this, but I wanted to get a bit of help before doing this.
I've read the post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=896597 which contains the guide for flashing a radio.
What I want to know is what radio should I be using? Is it ROM/phone/carrier specific? I don't want to flash the wrong radio then not be able to go back, especially since I've made it this far without bricking my phone! Also, could flashing a new radio improve my wiFi signal?
Thanks,
Simon
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In addition to what Bananagranola said, if you flash ENG S-OFF and your device was shipped with Gingerbread you will mess your bootloader and radio won't be the main concern then.
You can flash a radio in the PD98IMG.zip way (wich is the safest way to do it) or flash modified ENG S-OFF included in the Hack Kit and after that you can find the radio threads links in the guide in my signature.
Make sure that you read carefully those threads. Flashing a wrong radio might brick your device.

bananagranola said:
Radios are not phone, ROM, or carrier specific, but their performance is affected by region. They do affect wifi. If you are in the US, there is a newer radio in the radio thread out that I have used. Though it didn't improve anything for me, it didn't break anything either. You can also take note of your current radio in Settings - About phone, and download that radio from the radio thread.
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Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium

Gizmoe said:
Radios are phone specific but I get what you meant. Desire and inspire can flash each others radios. Don't want to flash any non ace radios though as it can truly brick your phone.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
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Yeah, sorry, that was misleadingly phrased. I edited my earlier post.

Thanks for all the replies. I'm starting to understand! I'm in the UK, so I guess I would need to get a UK radio. How often are they updated? When I've looked around, there only seem to be a few available.
My current radio is 26.10.04.03_M Can I improve on that?
Also, I read on the LeeDroid thread that you need to make sure the radio is compatible with the ROM, but bananagranola said it's not ROM specific...who's right??! Is it a case of, when I find a radio I want to use, I post it in the ROM thread to ask if they are compatible?
Thanks.

Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
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Gizmoe said:
Just try different ones out. All inspire/desire radios can be used its just a matter of how well they will work. Leedroid was just pointing that fact out. It's not that it won't work or that it will mess up your device in trying. I use 26.17.14.11 and it works for every Rom I use. You are currently using an inspire radio so you might give the one I use a try. It's also an inspire radio. But if it doesn't then you can always try another. It's good to give it about 24 hours to settle unless it just outright makes something worse like battery or signal.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda premium
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Thanks for all the advice. Sorry about the delay in getting back to you - had a little issue with a bricked tablet (all fixed now though
I guess the next steps for me are to take a nandroid backup and try some out!
If I'm back on here with more questions it means something went wrong... :cyclops: