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Please post your first impressions of the JPH firmware. A changelog and bugs encountered would also be helpful.
Thanks!
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I'd be curious to know whether the thing that occurred with JPC on sim locked phones is still happening with this firmware - the product code changing and the phone asking for a network code. I really don't want to root my phone and go through the file copying again - I like it nice and stock-y.
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If you pinch-zoom in the applications menu this is now smooth =)
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That was only true until I installed apps and had 5 pages of apps
First impressions best 2.2 out there at the moment. No lag, very responsive mind you not downloaded many apps at the moment. No market missing apps.
I find 2.2 is hardly as exciting as what people make it out to be.
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I find 2.2 is hardly as exciting as what people make it out to be.
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For someone that uses flash 99% of the time on the web, 2.2 is a gift from God himself.
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First impressions best 2.2 out there at the moment. No lag, very responsive mind you not downloaded many apps at the moment. No market missing apps.
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Couldn't agree agree any more
JPH After 3 Hours Review:
Zero issues so far for me. I'm using the APK lagfix. Everything is nice and snappy (with and without the lagfix, although the lagfix seems to makes it better).
GPS seems to get an accurate lock very quickly indoors. (Started up maps, it found the nearest cellphone tower instantly with a 1km radius or something, then found my location perfectly after ~6 seconds. Going to street view once it had my location took my directly outside my house. Not the best GPS test ever, but it worked as well as any other GPS I've ever seen for that simple task.)
Compass seems to be as flaky as ever. This might be a hardware problem with my phone though, since the compass has always been flaky.
Blacks in videos seem as good as ever, and it played a few video files I gave it without issues.
Google market worked without issue, and wifi/hsdpa worked well. No issues with sdcards or anything like that either.
Internet browser is the best I've seen it, with flashing loading and playing smoothly without affecting speed on the rest of the page. Full page engadget with flash ads along the top and right side scrolled very smoothly after loading fully.
Games work the same that they've always worked (zero change, there aren't any games out that tax the GPU yet.)
I'll post a further review after using it for 24 hours or so.
Sorry to disturb your happyness and the overall enthusiasm
But.
Similar to JPC there is still an great Problem or Bug.
As JPC, JPH also dont sync tasks and appointments that are created with another app than the built in stock calendar
This is (for me, and for everyone who want to use the Galaxy seriously for Buisiness and Task planning) an absolutely bad behaviour.
I use Jorte and at first Quick Addroid for adding and editing Tasks. Because the Stock Calendar is to poor in Functionality and not very comfortable.
So if i add an Task with e.g. Quick Addroid, it appears in Device in all installed Calendar apps but is not synced with Google.
If i then edit and save it in Stock Calendar, then it will be synced.
Maybe, it belongs to changes in the code in Froyo, that ar not compatible with not samsung apps. Maybe the programmers have to fix it in their Software.
But also maybe that it is an Bug and Samsung have to fix this.
pbruck said:
Sorry to disturb your happyness and the overall enthusiasm
But.
Similar to JPC there is still an great Problem or Bug.
As JPC, JPH also dont sync tasks and appointments that are created with another app than the built in stock calendar
This is (for me, and for everyone who want to use the Galaxy seriously for Buisiness and Task planning) an absolutely bad behaviour.
I use Jorte and at first Quick Addroid for adding and editing Tasks. Because the Stock Calendar is to poor in Functionality and not very comfortable.
So if i add an Task with e.g. Quick Addroid, it appears in Device in all installed Calendar apps but is not synced with Google.
If i then edit and save it in Stock Calendar, then it will be synced.
Maybe, it belongs to changes in the code in Froyo, that ar not compatible with not samsung apps. Maybe the programmers have to fix it in their Software.
But also maybe that it is an Bug and Samsung have to fix this.
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To be honest, I doubt this is a dealbreaker for 99% of people.
I think it would be classed as a 'minor annoyance'! As far as I know, syncing (google integration in general) has changed a bit in 2.2, so it's probably the app that has to be updated. I could be way off here though.
Scrolling trough the Touchwiz icons in the menu is very sluggish here. Eclair was way smoother. Is just me?
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Scrolling trough the Touchwiz icons in the menu is very sluggish here. Eclair was way smoother. Is just me?
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Nope, it isn't just you. I've done factory reset and it's the same.
I knew it isn't so good when I saw that the boot animation was slow and sluggish.
RyanZA said:
To be honest, I doubt this is a dealbreaker for 99% of people.
I think it would be classed as a 'minor annoyance'! As far as I know, syncing (google integration in general) has changed a bit in 2.2, so it's probably the app that has to be updated. I could be way off here though.
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Maybe you´r right.
But this is my experience and my oppinion.
So far, so bad.
If this is (and i think so, as you) an problem of the apps, that ar not compatible with Froyo, then i hope they fix it asap.
For me is the proper sync of all Data and tasks absolutely mandatory. And so i have to downgrade (once again) to JM8
Very bad.
Much more because i really appreciate and like the new Functions in Froyo.
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Scrolling trough the Touchwiz icons in the menu is very sluggish here. Eclair was way smoother. Is just me?
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Yep feels sluggish on Touchwiz and even worse on Home replacemant apps such as Launcher Pro and ADW.....sadly!
Is WiFi Router working for you? I just get on H icon in notification bar upload arrow highlighted, download arrow stays gray all the time and theres no connection on PC. On USB tethering i get few pings nicely and then connection is broken for few seconds. I have to try this with other FW, maybe it's my provider fault but maybe you have simmilar problem?
Well...then , not worth upgrading from JM8 , i guess
Uhhh, theres also problem with compass and calibration. Every phone restart they are changing to default which is bad and compass after reboot always shows that theres wrong magnetic field and it shows wrong directions.
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Is WiFi Router working for you? I just get on H icon in notification bar upload arrow highlighted, download arrow stays gray all the time and theres no connection on PC. On USB tethering i get few pings nicely and then connection is broken for few seconds. I have to try this with other FW, maybe it's my provider fault but maybe you have simmilar problem?
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Yes, working WiFi Router.
Going back to JM7. Samsung engineers and programmers are a bunch of monkeys.
GPS, FM MONO!!!, LAG, SLUGGISH SCROLL, mehhhh
Never had good experiences with Samsung products and support... they only want to sell, get OUR money, and then tell their customers to screw themselves.
We all know the apps downloaded from the market are slow and choppy when compared to the rest of the OS. Start up times are horrible. Does anyone know if this issue has any plans to be resolved?
Thanks!
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We all know the apps downloaded from the market are slow and choppy when compared to the rest of the OS. Start up times are horrible. Does anyone know if this issue has any plans to be resolved?
Thanks!
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We all know that? I've downloaded quite a few apps and haven't seen that too often. Nevertheless, in the cases that you see its shoddy development, to many webrequests, or just the overhead of using Silverlight.
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We all know that? I've downloaded quite a few apps and haven't seen that too often. Nevertheless, in the cases that you see its shoddy development, to many webrequests, or just the overhead of using Silverlight.
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Scrolling in market apps is nowhere near as smooth as native apps on the phone. Opening a market app takes ages when compared to say "people, messages, email, calendar etc".
Can you tell me of a market app that performs like a native app? Coming from Android the market apps performed very quickly with the same scrolling experience elsewhere in the OS. I assume this will be resolved in WP7 with future updates and as developers update their apps.
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Scrolling in market apps is nowhere near as smooth as native apps on the phone. Opening a market app takes ages when compared to say "people, messages, email, calendar etc".
Can you tell me of a market app that performs like a native app? Coming from Android the market apps performed very quickly with the same scrolling experience elsewhere in the OS. I assume this will be resolved in WP7 with future updates and as developers update their apps.
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yomomedia works very well, no lag on scrolling and opens/ responds quickly.
i would agree, it's because most of the programming (done by the app programmer) isn't optimised causing the issues. not to say silverlight is either as it's really just ported from the desktop, but there are a few apps in there that qork quite well.
also the type of memory is a killer too. samsung and LG went for NAND where as HTC took the cheap route and went for microSD (though i don't know if it's actually much cheaper). NAND loads apps up a lot faster than microSD does.
Honestly, I think there is a major issue here and I hope Microsoft reconsiders letting people use native code. I wish people would stop acting like this isn't an issue.
I'm sure there are optimizations to be made, but there is a noticeable difference in performance between native apps and silverlight apps. Some of it really just seems inherent to the controls. Load up a bing map in the yelp app and attempt to interact with it, the difference is night and day. Swipe up and down in any list in a silverlight app, it lags.
i'm going to have to disagree. whilst i use most of my apps, i don't notice any lag in scrolling. most of the lag people are talking about is upon boot up (which actually could be set by the developer for their "splash screen", or they've programmed it so that it loads all the data into the whole view in one hit (e.g. facebook) causing it to seem a little laggy on loading. if you look at Youtube app by HTC, they only load data as you view that panorama item so it's a lot quicker and you don't notice the lag at all. though this might be a bad example as HTC could be using native code as they have permission to. however, there are other apps out that i use which don't lag after initial launch, jumping between screens is fine.
if you notice any lag in the scrolling (such as in the market place) its because they're trying to load the next set of apps under the list when you're about to reach the bottom, causing it to lag. though in saying that, even MS could do their programming properly so that it doesn't hang the list.
the app market is slow, sucks and crashes one too many times. stop being a fanboi and join us in urging MS to make it better. It's not "fine" and we are not using it incorrectly. it's slow
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-blames-developers-for-poorly-performing-wp7-apps
**this bothers me as well.... flixter and facebook which are two of my fav apps are nearly unuseable IMO because of slowness and stuttering
on the other hand, HTC Youtube and AP runs great
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http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-blames-developers-for-poorly-performing-wp7-apps
**this bothers me as well.... flixter and facebook which are two of my fav apps are nearly unuseable IMO because of slowness and stuttering
on the other hand, HTC Youtube and AP runs great
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I haven't had any problems with flixster, where do you notice slowdowns???
edit, just tested it on Tron and it's fluid and smooth. Takes less than 5 seconds for info to load between pages (cast, reviews, etc) and trailer started in 3 seconds.
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I haven't had any problems with flixster, where do you notice slowdowns???
edit, just tested it on Tron and it's fluid and smooth. Takes less than 5 seconds for info to load between pages (cast, reviews, etc) and trailer started in 3 seconds.
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Ok, let me rephrase that a bit. App works fine, but what annoys me is the lack of the fluid experience as opposed as the rest of the os. The start panoramic hub in flixter is really choppy compared to the one in AP Press, even when fully loaded. Once i go deeper in the app it seems to perform as expected
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Honestly, I think there is a major issue here and I hope Microsoft reconsiders letting people use native code. I wish people would stop acting like this isn't an issue.
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But it's not an issue. Yes, certain apps do perform badly, but it's all down to how the developers have written their app.
Using native code would not necessarily fix these issues as you could quite easily write wrong code even then.
In the end it all comes down to the fact that the platform is still fairly new and developers are not yet used to working on it - a lot of developers don't seem to understand that loading [slow] data on the UI thread is bad, others will load up all the data they need before displaying the UI rather than displaying the UI and then loading the data.
There's an update to the Facebook app available today, seems to start a lot quicker and is a bit smoother in use. Also now supports Places and tagging in photos.
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There's an update to the Facebook app available today, seems to start a lot quicker and is a bit smoother in use. Also now supports Places and tagging in photos.
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yup, i noticed that its faster as well :-D
I installed a lot of nice stuff from Marketplace just in few days...
I am missing more featured Office (Word especially) and Opera Mini.
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Marketplace hangs, always after installing many apps one after another.
Have to reboot the device in this case.
doministry said:
I installed a lot of nice stuff from Marketplace just in few days...
I am missing more featured Office (Word especially) and Opera Mini.
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Marketplace hangs, always after installing many apps one after another.
Have to reboot the device in this case.
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yeah, so far that is the only bug I have really come across, and it's happened twice in 6 weeks.
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yeah, so far that is the only bug I have really come across, and it's happened twice in 6 weeks.
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Since it is still not my main device but is heavily used, yes, the OS seems superstable and almost trouble free.
Scrolling/swiping is not the problem as it is somehow cached. Problem is loading time and general code execution. It IS slow, it feels, it makes you stop for a second or two, it cuts the fluid experience you could have possibly been accustomed to by using the native apps UI. Of course you will not notice it on a "tip calculator" app or such, but yes on a more sophisticated and fully featured app.
MS must add this to the OS optimization list...
My main gripe with Marketplace is that it regularly crashes every few days.
Mine always crashes if I browse the marketplace for too long ><. This is on the Omnia 7. Once It crashes, it goes to the home screen, but reopening the marketplace just goes blank for a while before returning to the home screen. Only fix for this is a restart.
With the way WP manages memory in the upcoming update, I'm hoping it improves the marketplace app considerably.
I posted this on the AT&T One X forums but it's relevant here...
What in the world did HTC do to Android ICS mulitasking!? Apps seem to be completely removed from cache every single time they're closed for ~30 seconds. They also no longer re-open in the same state that you left them! If I leave the browser, it needs to reload the web page. If I leave a game, I need to start from the beginning. If I pause and exit Slacker radio for a minute, the app closes and I can't even resume my music with the headphones button! I need to re-open the app and start playing all over again.
With my old Galaxy Nexus I never had ANY of these issues and multitasking was clearly the best of any smartphone on the market. HTC has completely crippled this device and it's becoming more and more frustrating (push email notifications & sms notifications are a whole other mess). It seems HTC has created Sense to focus more on preserving battery than focusing on creating a good user experience. The first few days with the phone were great but as more and more of these "instances" pop up, this phone is beginning to seem less and less powerful and intuitive.
Maybe you have "Don't keep Activities" ticked in the Developer options?
No problem here, I can switch back to tasks at the point I left them. HOWEVER, I do tend to close apps from Recent Apps when I close them and I did the same on my old Galaxy Nexus as I don't like to have apps open if I'm not using them...obviously if you clear apps from the Task Manager then yes they'll open from scratch
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Just checked and it's not ticked.
Sadly I have the same thing 3 pages opened... going to gmail checking mail and opening one already clears the cache and when I go back to the browser it has to reload the pages!!! Very annoying. My old HD2 was a lot better with this and I think Sense is the blame!! Its eating up to much RAM
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Just checked and it's not ticked.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
yeah i get this - it's like it saves a screenshot of the last page the app was on, and then goes onto reloading it all. its almost like an ios multitasking and i don't like.
I tried running Rhapsody and CoPilot at the same time. CoPilot's pretty memory intensive. They both stayed active and I could toggle between them without either one restarting. Going to the home page caused Rhapsody to lose focus. I opened the browser and started Rhapsody again while CoPilot was still running. Toggling between the three they all stayed open. When I went to the home page the browser lost focus. Could be a bug, could be memory management.
I have no issues with it. Works well for me, I also don't like apps running too long in the background. If I am working on stuff it allows me to switch back and fourth with ease.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
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Nope seems like most other users on the AT&T forum have the exact same issue (there's a video there that shows it) and some others here have said the same. It's nothing I did to the device, it's something built into Sense 4.0.
The link below is a post on the AT&T forum that contains two videos that portray the problem. My issue isn't as bad as what is shown being that I need to leave an app for around 30 seconds. The issue shown seems to happen almost instantly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25918871&postcount=7
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Nope seems like most other users on the AT&T forum have the exact same issue (there's a video there that shows it) and some others here have said the same. It's nothing I did to the device, it's something built into Sense 4.0.
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The international version's been out for a month and this is the first time this has come up. So either it's not a big deal to people or they didn't even notice. I didn't until I read your post. Where would you like this to go?
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The international version's been out for a month and this is the first time this has come up. So either it's not a big deal to people or they didn't even notice. I didn't until I read your post. Where would you like this to go?
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To HTC...so it's fixed.
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To HTC...so it's fixed.
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http://www.htc.com/www/contact/
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Already submitted.
I've got the same problem and the developer option is unticked. It is a pain but it doesn't bother me too much though tbh.
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Well, it seems that YOU "Really Screwed Up Multitasking on the One X". We're happy campers with great multitasking, remade by HTC. Incidentally, we actually get multitasking instead of Google's app switcher!
So, please, enough with the unceasing drama of HTC ruined my life.
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If you don't have anything useful to post, why post at all. You just sound like a butthurt fanyboy because someones posted criticism about a genuine problem they're having. Just because you're a "Happy camper" doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist.
This issue is pretty bad. Should be fixed. Ill contact htc again
actually i havent noticed it until this thread, well maybe noticed it but never paid any attention to that. now it starts buggin me.
I don't know if this will help but there was a thread a little while ago that said to tick the "don't keep activities" tick box in developer options and then use the phone like that for a minute.
Then untick the "don't keep activities" tick box and it should work.
I can't remember if you had to restart the device somewhere in-between the two steps or after it.
This did help a lot of people.
The phone seemed to be in-between "don't keep activities" and full multi-tasking somehow.
Hope it works for you!
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This issue is pretty bad. Should be fixed. Ill contact htc again
actually i havent noticed it until this thread, well maybe noticed it but never paid any attention to that. now it starts buggin me.
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Problems I don't know I have seldom bother me. Not disputing that there's an issue, but the number of pitchforks and torches brought out should be commensurate with the degree of the problem. That's what I think shirreer was trying to say before he got ***** slapped. This is one of the most emotional forums on XDA I’ve ever participated in.
i have the international version and i don't have this issue.
fb, skype, doplhin hd browser, google talk, xda and even riptide are all open and can be switched back and forth without needing refresh
Anyone else getting the bug on updated/non stock chrome that causing the browser to become blank or just stuck at the background color after it tried to load/reload the page you want to view?
This bug occur when I leave the chrome on for too long in the background with several tabs open or heavy web pages
The only way to fix this is by closing tabs and clearing the app itself from ram
This issue occur on both stable and beta version of chrome, any chrome other than the one provided with stock rom
Anyone else experiencing this? Any fix/solution?[emoji55]
me dude. i just had enough of it and removed the update and now it's all back to normal.
Yeah removing the update can fix it but then it defeat the purpose of having update capability, is there any way to make google aware of this?
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Yeah removing the update can fix it but then it defeat the purpose of having update capability, is there any way to make google aware of this?
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I am also having this problem. The issue is known to Google, if you research it. We have to wait for an update to see it go away. It's a sad state of affairs. I like Chrome and now I can't use it. And it ruins my exp3ri3nce with my G3, as the problem is practically non-existent on my N7.
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I am also having this problem. The issue is known to Google, if you research it. We have to wait for an update to see it go away. It's a sad state of affairs. I like Chrome and now I can't use it. And it ruins my exp3ri3nce with my G3, as the problem is practically non-existent on my N7.
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According to a google community thread, apparently this is not an lg g3 exclusive issue, this happened on other devices as well and look pretty random
Hopefully a fix soon come because I've tried other browsers and while some of them are nice but they tend to eat much more battery compared to chrome
Not sure if it is a coincidence or not, but ever since I upgraded to 10.5, my app drawer has been a mess. It is displaying a bunch of apps in keys that I've never been shown before, IE the Carrier services app, the titanium pro version app, etcetera. These are all things that launchers have kept hidden in the past. Any idea what is causing them to display in the app drawer now? Not a big deal just very irritating to have it so cluttered all of a sudden
I've had the same since I got the phone on 10.0.3. No idea why. As you say it's not a big deal but I'd like to know. I wonder if these apps need to be updated for something different in Android 10.
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I've had the same since I got the phone on 10.0.3. No idea why. As you say it's not a big deal but I'd like to know. I wonder if these apps need to be updated for something different in Android 10.
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yeah, good point. It may have to do with the afternoon to be updated. Either way it's just a nuisance, I guess that is what we get for being early adopters
Anyone figure out a way to get around this?