Phone randomly switches off. Needs battery pull. - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I'm new to the forum. I have tried running a search for this problem already and haven't found anything related.
My phone randomly switches off and requires a battery pull to be turned back on again (Yes the conventional button pressing and power button pressing etc doesn't work). I haven't had the phone switch off on me whilst using it, it usually happens when I pick up my phone to check for messages etc. and realise it's not on.
I have a Desire Z running Virtuous 1.0.2 with the Advanced kernel.
The SetCPU screen off profile is 245/691 on 'interactive'.
Anybody have any ideas as to what may be the cause?

Same thing happens to me sometimes but it usually happens when I'm charging maybe its the battery. Have you noticed any unusual drain on your battery?
Ps. I know very little about phones and what not but I know that your battery could be over charged therefore your phone does what it does. Just a bit of guess.
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This has been called "SOD" (screen of death) by some. Probably not related to CPU clocking/stepping, like the more common "screen wake issue" on Virtuous, as the symptoms are pretty different in my experience. As you already mentioned, with the CPU clocking/stepping "screen wake" issue (common on Virtuous if you use the advanced kernel), you can power on the screen with multiple pushes of the power button, or opening the keyboard. With SOD, no amount of button pushing does anything, and the phone is completely unresponsive.
Several theories abound as to the cause of SODs, but nothing conclusive, unfortunately. Likely a hardware problem, possibly combined with kernel and/or GPS.
Personally, I've found that going back to my stock shipped ROM and using the Godspeed kernel is the only combination I've tried so far (including Virtuous and CM7) that seems totally free of SODs. But your results may vary.
Any evidence of this issue when you were on the stock ROM? If not, you might consider just reverting back (easy if you made a nandroid). If the problem persists on the stock ROM, and you are still on warranty, you might consider returning your phone to stock and sending it in for repair, as this seems the surest way to solve the issue. This isn't an option for me, since I purchased mine with no warranty (unlocked and imported). Otherwise, you might try different ROM and kernel combinations to see if things improve.
I've discussed this some more on the following similar recent thread (links to additional related threads on that post):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13002702&postcount=7

redpoint73 said:
I've discussed this some more on the following similar recent thread (links to additional related threads on that post):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13002702&postcount=7
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Thanks for shedding some light on this issue for me. I'll have a try doing what you suggested and see if it's any better.

pmatang said:
Thanks for shedding some light on this issue for me. I'll have a try doing what you suggested and see if it's any better.
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Dammit, I hit the Thanks button instead of Quote. Oh well, you get a free Thanks!
BTW, feel free to Thank my post, if you found it helpful!
At least one person I've suggested a different kernel to (to try to solve this issue), did not find it helpful. But it helped in my case. And you can do a nandroid backup to make sure the change is completely and easily reversible if you don't like the result.

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HELP! Phone doesn't wake up

My phone goes to sleep
and does NOT wake up, the bottom row of buttons and keyboard both light up if I open them or press them.
Help please!
rossle12 said:
My phone goes to sleep
and does NOT wake up, the bottom row of buttons and keyboard both light up if I open them or press them.
Help please!
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Stock ROM or custom? Any overclocking?
The phone powers up if you soft reset, correct?
Well, I found out it was a small problem with the rom.
It was a custom rom, and I just installed a different one and it works flawlessly.
With the other one, the light sensor did not work either.
Also, I dropped my phone the other day, and a really small spring fell out.
And the back plain on my screen is loose and opens up easily..
Which ROM?
I hate to hijack this thread but i am having the exact same problem. Basically when i put my phone to sleep its hit or mess as to if it will wake. It seems to have started when i flashed Energy ROM. It was terrible after that, so I switched back to the stock ROM available from the HTC website and all seemed well at first. Now its back to hit or miss.
I cant really rule out a hardware issue such as a broken sensor or something because I'm not sure how the mechanics of it work. When i push the power button on top the phone wakes but not the screen I know this because the 4 lights on the bottom light up and the keyboard as well. I can hit the button repeatedly but it doesnt help. At other times it works flawlessly, but usually does not.
Can anyone give me a suggestion as to what it could be, or a way to rule out a hardware issue?
Exactly my problem!
It was perfectly fine for the first day or so before it started crapping out again..
Can someone please help us with this problem?
It's mind consuming and it's making me worry.
Until TP3 is out, I won't get a new phone ):
Well, the problem is discussed in great detail on the internet, but no one can give a definitive answer. ..
I've been a touch pro 2 user for exactly 3 days... My new HD2 from T-Mobile is in the mail... This is a un acceptable flaw with no real solutiion... Good Luck TP2 users....
Good luck to you.
I've had mine for over two years and it was flawless
Just one recent drop determined everything
Although I Must say, it was one hell of a durable phone
Yea, dont get me wrong. I really like the phone. Thats why I'm getting the HD2. Great OS and big beautiful screen. I'm gonna miss the slide out keyboard but I think thats what breaks these phones.
I'm excited that there's the possibility of running Windows Mobile 7 on it.
rossle12 said:
Can someone please help us with this problem?
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I'd like to try to help. But you never answered my question of what ROM you are on (and which one you tried previously).
I've determined my problem is 100% hardware related. If I open my keyboard and then grab the screen and tweak it while pressing the power button it comes onn 100% of the time. Sux, but at least I know the cause now
djowen6565 said:
I've determined my problem is 100% hardware related. If I open my keyboard and then grab the screen and tweak it while pressing the power button it comes onn 100% of the time. Sux, but at least I know the cause now
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Every once in a while my phone would turn on and I wouldn't know why
But yeah, I think it is hardware related.
I previously used Energy then went to Jacko's.
Both were perfectly fine, just the upsetting sleep function and light sensor would keep the phone off.
HELP: Same problem Phone not waking up
Hi saw this thread and was wondering if anyone can help me.
I have an HTC Touch Pro 2 for some month now...
Using the following details:
OS Version: 5.2.21887 (21887.5.0.86)
ROM Version: 2.07..401.1 (80303) WWE
ROM date: 02/04/10
Radio ver: 4.49.25.91
stock ROM basically...
THe issue is that the phone doesn't wake or when using it just freezes/hangs.
Not much software/apps installed... and memory is good as well.
I just don't know what's going on...
Help please.
Thanks
rossle12 said:
Every once in a while my phone would turn on and I wouldn't know why
But yeah, I think it is hardware related.
I previously used Energy then went to Jacko's.
Both were perfectly fine, just the upsetting sleep function and light sensor would keep the phone off.
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I'd agree with the notion that its likely hardware related. I've flashed maybe 10 different builds of Energy over the last 7 months or so, and never once had and issue with the SOD (sleep of death) that I can recall. A bad flash can sometimes happen. But since you flashed another reputable ROM (Jackos), that somewhat eliminates the possibility that a bad flash is the culprit.
You can start from scratch, by running Task29 to format the ROM area of the phone's memory, and reflash the ROM. But this would be just to eliminate the possibility of a bad ROM flash. My gut says that you won't see any different results.
Running the phone "clean" for a while (to see if you still have the SOD) without any software installed or any other modifications will eliminate the possibility that any software or mods are responsible for the issue.
are you sure its hardware related? because my phone started doing this yesterday too...I had an energy rom from october, and it was really buggy. I am only able to keep my phone from sleeping when it is plugged in to some power, so i flashed the newest energy rom and still having the same problem...wont wake up from sleep
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I dont see how this can be hardware related because everytime i soft-reset, the screen works again. this problem only happens when the device goes to sleep...
Any overclocking?
As I already mentioned, I never had any SODs on Energy that I can recall, except when using OCT (OverClocking Tool).
I have done no overclocking...I just flashed the newest energy rom like 15min ago...is there anything else I can do or check? it looks like the phone works still, just no backlight...
After flashing the ROM, maybe try running it "clean" for a day or two, don't install any software or do any mods, reg edits, etc. If you still have problems with the phone waking up with a new ROM, and no other software or other mods, than it may indicate a hardware problem.
And be sure to run Task29 before you flash the new ROM, if you don't already do that.
You guys should read the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648134
You're not the only ones (by any means) with the SOD issue. But it isn't at all clear what causes the issue. Lots of different theories in that thread about various software or ROMs, with no clear solution.
Lots of conflicting info, but some comments on the thread suggest (as I mentioned) that Task29 may help (certainly can't hurt).
moto2000 said:
are you sure its hardware related?
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Nope, definitely not sure, especially after reading the thread linked above. But as I suggested before, Task 29, try a different ROM, and run it clean with no software or mods, and start eliminating the variables.

[Q] Device becomes unresponsive after several minutes of use.

Hello,
I have an HTC Desire HD running Android 2.3.3. The device isn't rooted and I've never rooted it before.
I've checked on this site, and I've scoured Google all day but I haven't managed to find anything that matches my problem specifically, as explained below.
In the last couple of days I have been having a bizarre problem where after several minutes of normal use the phone becomes completely unresponsive or very laggy (to the point where it is unusable). This occurs whether I am using apps or simply looking at the home-screen.
The only thing that's responsive is the screen lock button, this works as normal. However when I then try to unlock the screen, the phone is still unresponsive and I'm unable to unlock it.
The only fix I've found (if you can call it a fix) is to leave the phone alone for a several minutes. If I do this I can once again unlock the screen as normal and continue using the phone, however after a few minutes of use it locks up again! This has been happening since last night now and I've found no way to break this cycle.
I did a hard reset to see if this solved the problem but it had no effect. The phone will boot as normal, and after a few minutes of normal use it will become unresponsive again.
I've also booted my phone without the SD card in just in case anything on this was causing the problem, still no improvement.
Has anyone else experienced a similar issue who could provide some insight as to what might be causing this issue? Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
At first I thought this might have been a software issue, but as it persisted after the reset I'm beginning to think this might not be the case.
Thanks,
KaRsKiN
The problem is coming from the magnetometer. I have the same issue, please check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1394264
The only workaround I found is to disable screen rotation and do a couple of restarts (not switch off). Of course, no compass in the end, but at least I can use the phone.
KaRsKiN said:
Hello,
I have an HTC Desire HD running Android 2.3.3. The device isn't rooted and I've never rooted it before.
I've checked on this site, and I've scoured Google all day but I haven't managed to find anything that matches my problem specifically, as explained below.
In the last couple of days I have been having a bizarre problem where after several minutes of normal use the phone becomes completely unresponsive or very laggy (to the point where it is unusable). This occurs whether I am using apps or simply looking at the home-screen.
The only thing that's responsive is the screen lock button, this works as normal. However when I then try to unlock the screen, the phone is still unresponsive and I'm unable to unlock it.
The only fix I've found (if you can call it a fix) is to leave the phone alone for a several minutes. If I do this I can once again unlock the screen as normal and continue using the phone, however after a few minutes of use it locks up again! This has been happening since last night now and I've found no way to break this cycle.
I did a hard reset to see if this solved the problem but it had no effect. The phone will boot as normal, and after a few minutes of normal use it will become unresponsive again.
I've also booted my phone without the SD card in just in case anything on this was causing the problem, still no improvement.
Has anyone else experienced a similar issue who could provide some insight as to what might be causing this issue? Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
At first I thought this might have been a software issue, but as it persisted after the reset I'm beginning to think this might not be the case.
Thanks,
KaRsKiN
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It is possible that your battery could be failing. See if att has one they will let you exchange.
If its not the battery then it could be a hardware issue. Just send it in for warranty if that is the case. You should still be covered as the phone is not yet a year old.
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Gizmoe said:
It is possible that your battery could be failing. See if att has one they will let you exchange.
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How should this be connected to the battery...?
Anyway, I think that it is a software issue rather than a hardware one. Maybe something is running in the background, using 100% of the cpu. You could try CPUNotify for realtime cpu monitoring.
If that doesn't work, you should try the magnetometer way. Maybe it's a new issue. Never heard about it though
I do what i want, because I can.
Flussen said:
How should this be connected to the battery...?
Anyway, I think that it is a software issue rather than a hardware one. Maybe something is running in the background, using 100% of the cpu. You could try CPUNotify for realtime cpu monitoring.
If that doesn't work, you should try the magnetometer way. Maybe it's a new issue. Never heard about it though
I do what i want, because I can.
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I'm not going to explain in detail about the relationship of voltages and CPU usage. The battery being bad can and has caused these exact issues. Just like if a power supply is failing it can cause a blue screen in windows. In android the phone rebooting itself or freezing is the equivalent to a blue screen. Since they have never rooted and are on a stock rom there is nothing except a hardware problem that would cause this. If the battery is not the culprit then one of the many components in the phone can cause freezes and reboots if it is failing. Android os does not allow a single task to take over the CPU. This is not a windows os. So like I said, just use your warranty and get it fixed. Stock phones should not be presenting this behavior, you would have to root it to cause these kind of problems.
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Gizmoe said:
I'm not going to explain in detail about the relationship of voltages and CPU usage. The battery being bad can and has caused these exact issues. Just like if a power supply is failing it can cause a blue screen in windows. In android the phone rebooting itself or freezing is the equivalent to a blue screen. Since they have never rooted and are on a stock rom there is nothing except a hardware problem that would cause this. If the battery is not the culprit then one of the many components in the phone can cause freezes and reboots if it is failing. Android os does not allow a single task to take over the CPU. This is not a windows os. So like I said, just use your warranty and get it fixed. Stock phones should not be presenting this behavior, you would have to root it to cause these kind of problems.
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Thanks for your help! My dad has the same device as me so I'll try swapping out the battery to see if this solves the problem. If not I'll try calling HTC to arrange a repair.
Any news? Was it the battery issue?

Battery and stability issues with new ICS

I've updated from a rooted stock GB ROM to the ICS update. I'm surprised this is the update Sprint/Samsung released for the phone. The GB ROM was stable and clean, this one seems to have some issues... primarily:
1) Battery life is 6-7 hours LESS - at least.
One thing I've noticed here is that "Android OS" is using about half of the battery. Previously (and confirmed with my buddy with his GSIII), this only used about 4% or 5% . I suspect this is a culprit.
I've attached some screenshots showing this.
Almost no use of the phone all day, I was at work - some light texting later in the day. So little that SMS or GoSMS don't even appear on the chart.
2) Swype keyboard issues.
Yes, you can clear your app cache for swype and get it to work. However, you apparently can't get copy/paste/select word/select all to work.
When you click on text and click the little handle that appears, only a small box appears above, which is where the menu should be for copy/paste/select word/select all should be. At least I think that's the options - from memory, since I don't have them any more. :crying:
I've attached a screenshot showing this.
[EDIT: This is a usage issue - I consider this more difficult than before, and quirky in that it doesn't always work, but generally if you press and hold text, it'll open an edit panel where the notification bar is. Sometimes double-clicking works.]
3) Signal issues.
Again using the Battery screen - I'm seeing some very odd patterns both with carrier data signal and wifi. Previously, carrier signal was an uninterrupted line, of varying shades of green that corresopnded to signal strength. Now, when I look at this line, there's some very good sized breaks in it. That's a sharp contrast to how it used to be.
I know that searching for signal can use battery - maybe an issue with the radio? modem?
Same for wifi - I used to have a setting for "wifi off when screen off". Now it's gone, or changed - I see a "wifi on while sleep" that is checked. Despite this setting remaining constant, I see periods where that seems to be happening (later), but also a long period where wifi is active despite the screen off.
I've attached a screenshot showing this. See the "mobile network signal" line in the plot.
4) General, observed quirkiness.
Screen not being as responsive. When I press the power button on my phone now, it takes 2 or 4 seconds for the screen to activate. Touching the screen sometimes results in a very laggy response... enough time to poke the screen a second time. Skippy/unsmooth screen transitions in some cases. I've had GoSMS vanish on me a couple times and I had to relaunch it. Other apps become unresponsive and I've had to hit the home button repeatedly - sometimes 10-15 seconds before the phone comes back to the home screen and out of that app.
The screen captures were taken throughout the day - the times appear on them.
I've also attached two BetterBatteryStats dump files - one of them I had all options checked, the other just the defaults. They were taken about the same time, and about the same time I took the 8 hour screen cap.
If it matters, I'm using Go Launcher EX, it's still my stock launcher. I'm noticing not many people on ICS using it - are there known problems?
This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
[EDIT: I performed a full factory wipe several days ago, and reinstalled all apps via market, and still are experiencing these exact symptoms. No improvement. May restore my nandroid from before the wipe just to gain back a few things I inadvertently lost as this didn't resolve anything.]
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
5) GPS changes/bugs
I've also noticed some GPS changes / bugs that I'm not liking.
The GB GPS sucked, now this one seems worse:
Driving tonight, I had to reboot my phone to stop my eternal wait for "searching for GPS" in the car. No different than I've occasionally had to do with the GB rom.
However, then when I made a couple wrong turns or deviations from the route, it got stuck on "recalculating". Eternally.
I know I was in an area with good data, because I exited the Navigation app, relaunched it and picked the last destination and it calculated the new route instantly. It didn't successfully recalculate once... three times I had to restart the navigation app.
Also - the old navigation app used to tell you "...in a quarter mile, exit on..." and "...in 100 feet, turn onto..."
This new navigation app does no such thing. It just says "turn right on _____ street". Which is useless if there's no street sign (hence several of my "recalculating" incidents).
Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
geolemon said:
Bump - anyone experiencing these bugs? I haven't seen them reported - any of them.
Looking for something to try to resolve one, or all of them.
Any suggestions are appreciated, thanks.
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I have had HORRIBLE battery life since the upgrade. It is worse than half of what I was getting prior to ICS
My GPS is working like a bauce though, finds my locations within seconds.
My boss got the upgrade last night and has Go Launcher and their suite of products on his device and he can't send texts now
I feel accomplished if I've stumped all of XDA... :silly:
I did discover a workaround for the copy/paste/select issue - long pressing in ICS opens a menu at the top of the screen for that.
However, still stumped on
1) 6-7 hour battery life reduction
3) signal issues
4) Quirkiness/freezing/sputtering responses
5) GPS issues - both signal and new app
Anyone else but me experiencing any others besides #1?
geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
GH0 said:
geoleomon - I would suggest grabbing XDA's version of Better Battery Stats, and monitoring your battery life that way rather then using the Android version.
But yes, I have experienced some of the battery issues, just no where near to that extent (maybe 4 -6 hours less).
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Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
geolemon said:
Where do I get that one? (I paid for the full version of the Android market version)
What's different about it?
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Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Hmm.. Weird I've had the ota installed for a day now and my Android os is averaging 10-15% at the most
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GH0 said:
Nothing, except this one is free.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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I've previously posted my results from the paid full version of the app... see the original post, two text files attached.
(one complete, one over-complete)
Anything out of the ordinary in there? What should I look for?
thanks-
Another piece of the puzzle:
I was using the camera, and it crashed - an error I didn't capture but something like "media server crashed - camera must restart". Happened twice before the camera actually started OK. Perhaps significantly, I had the phone docked when I fired up the camera - desk dock.
Also, noticing that listening to music in my desk dock at work, several times now the song has just stopped playing a few seconds in, and the media player closes. I restart the music player, and everything is OK. Sometimes that happens 2 or 3 times before the player works again, and then sometimes it'll happen an hour or so later even after it does start working again.
Could this be related?
try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
riggs170 said:
try this then report back I have none of these issues you speak of but I am generally in a good signal area. Your signal looks awful, defiantly will cause battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
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I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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geolemon said:
I used the "nodata" version of that kernel to install CWM after rooting.
This will wipe my phone, which I'm looking to avoid doing if possible, if that's not the "nodata" version I already have.
Can you clarify on what you are advising?
Interesting though - a coworker suggested possibly if I wipe my phone it might clean things up.
I have just cleared my Dalvik cache, however I believe I did this before. I'm doing this now noting that as per my prior post, I'm seeing a few things force close, or else stop suddenly (like music player) without closing.
Also using CWM to "fix permissions" (not quite sure what this means).
We'll see what my results are after this.
I'd like to get this stock ROM working well if at all possible - if for no other reason than the Exchange peak/off peak email sync settings that don't seem to exist in other ICS ROMs.
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using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
kingsway8605 said:
I wish a mod would sticky a battery life complaint thread and close all others. Every other thread is an ics battery life complaint.
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SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
cp320703 said:
using nodata is you're problem, all of the issues you've described could be caused by using nodata, this is why it is advised in almost every roms dev thread to do a full wipe, not no data... you may be able to get away with it without any serious bugs upgrading the same rom one revision but not going from gb to ics. you need to do a full wipe and fresh flash, legacy gb app framework is causing these issues, not ics
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Thanks for this part - however...
The very advantage of going the OTA (or at least stock - I didn't OTA it) stock route is to not clear the phone.
Samsung/Sprint spent how many months developing this, to provide an update that's supposed to be clean for existing, non-technical, non-rooted, mom & pop users. I wanted to go this route simply as the "cleanest" option. And I've got lots set up on my phone and very little time around now - I'd prefer not to lose it if I can avoid it. As much as you try to back up, and remember, and all that, every time you wipe you forget something...
It's a little bit like being a Jeep owner, and saying "you know, everyone could get away with driving a Jeep".
Sure... they could... but they wouldn't all enjoy it, and it really wouldn't fit everyone's use case.
Usually, advise like this really just reflects a lack of vision: "I can't imagine anyone who uses their phone different than ME".
cp320703 said:
SERIOUSLY! i dont get why people come to xda to whine about the OTA, XDA is the place you come not to run stock... And half the threads that arnt about battery life/"bugs" where the poster provides only basic anecdotal "evidence" and no technical data whatsoever on FF18 are gripes about sprint and sprint related issues... have people never heard of the sprintusers forum, THATS where those complaints belong, not here
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Does this look like whining, or seeking a solution? Hey, look - the original post!
geolemon said:
...This is frustrating to me - I use this phone for work, I came off an AOKP ROM to get back on a stock ROM, for two things:
1) stock stability and battery life.
2) the Exchange account options for sync scheduling (on peak/off peak schedules for sync) that only seem to be in the stock ROM.
Accordingly, I'd like to see this ROM working. Any thoughts on these?
Anyone else observing these symptoms, relative to the stock GB rom?
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Again - seems more and more like you are a child, not only lacking maturity, but injecting your own prejudices rather than reading.
I'm seeking solutions.
And XDA is the place for options. Solutions are a subset of options.
Grow up.
I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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cp320703 said:
I wasn't referencing you as whining at all, however this thread belongs in the Official OTA thread, not on its own, that's what the commenter prior to me and I were both refrencing- the constant new threads about the same 3 or 4 issues with the OTA when there is already a thread for it... that said you said you're seeking solutions, I offered you one that will work, I'm sorry that it displeases you, but doing a full wipe and a clean install will solve pretty much every issue you have, so backup your apps, and text messages if you want those as well, it takes less than 5 minutes in titanium backup and SMS backup, and do a clean flash or Odin (if flashing make sure you are on a safe kernel). That will fix your problems, its silly to keep asking for solutions when the best and most likely to be successful one has already been proffered.... or should you still for some reason not want to do this just unroot and take it to a sprint store, they'll do a factory reset, that'll fix all of the issues you're having. Save the time and effort and just do it yourself, no one is going to post any magic advice that'll make it all OK with nothing unchanged
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I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
geolemon said:
I'll try it... just want to make that the last resort.
Wouldn't you consider it to be equivalent to just wiping/factory reset via CWM?
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yup wiping in cwm will do it, again be sure you're on a safe recovery eg. agats or chris41's... things like the force closes of music player and the malfunctioning of swipe, camera, etc, are due to coming from gb without a full wipe... i do realize its a PITA if you wanted to keep it simple, but it is what it is you know... insofar as battery I've never had a problem running ff18 based roms such as blu kuban or goodness, I've never run bone stock myself but if you continue to have issues there are tweaks, such as kobridges and phakers scrips that'll help out a lot, in addition to disabling unnecessary syncs, etc... however after giving it a few days to settle I've not had any problem getting a full day of moderate use out of ff18 based roms...
just to add a little more, fixing permissions will help a little with force closes... if you are unfamiliar with the UNIX permission system you can find some good info here ( http://www.perlfect.com/articles/chmod.shtml ), however it would still probably be best to to a wipe as it most likely won't fix all the bugaboo's you have from keeping your gb /data partition... despite what the horrid touchwiz interface would have you believe ICS is a huge step forward from GB, and that old app data can and will cause problems... lastly sorry if i came off a bit gruff, as I'm sure you've picked up I'm somewhat tired of seeing threads about the OTA, however to your credit you did post tons of concise, detailed info and were open to suggestions, I've seen similar thread where the OP just posts something akin to "ICS data sux, wtfff????" and when recognized devs tell them what they need to do they start to argue, which makes no sense to me... I was most likely taking my frustration at those threads and their apposition to the purpose of XDA out on you, for that I apologize, good luck with it and should you need further help let me know, I'd be glad to assist or at least point you in the direction of information that may help
This thread seems to have gone off the rails a bit... All the answers you seek are in development op. It requires reading though... There are roms and explanations for every problem you listed. If you say no they're not... Then you have not taken the time to read... Simple as that... I am a developer here and no one taught me anything. I READ AND LEARNED IT. i have a family and a life and the whole bag... So there are no exscuses. I challenge you to take the time to read and learn and give back. Maybe YOU can find the answera to your questions and post the answers here so you can help someone else who will post this and that doesnt work (but does, they just didnt read and learn how to fix it). Because as soon as you post it someone else will have the same complaints and questions and will be to lazy to search...

Random Reboots - FF18

I'm running the stock ICS FF18, rooted. All seemed reasonably well for the first couple weeks, now the damn thing wants to randomly reboot.
I tried wiping, reinstalling the stock ICS, but the problem returned. Reboots happen maybe upwards of a dozen times a day. I've tried isolating the problem but unable to find a common variable...sometimes it happens when I'm in the middle of something, like web surfing or texting. Sometimes it happens when I press the power button, sometimes it happens when it's just sitting there not being touched, sometimes it happens when plugged it, sometimes when not plugged in.
I can't think I have a bad install twice and I'm not finding much on the forums here about others with a similar problem with the stock ICS. So I'm thinking either an app is being a b1tch and causing problems or perhaps something related to the battery? If there was one common theme, it does always happen later in the day or at night after the battery is down below 50%.
Does anyone have thoughts, ideas, suggestions on the likelihood of a bad battery or perhaps someone experienced something similar?
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I'm running the stock ICS FF18, rooted. All seemed reasonably well for the first couple weeks, now the damn thing wants to randomly reboot.
I tried wiping, reinstalling the stock ICS, but the problem returned. Reboots happen maybe upwards of a dozen times a day. I've tried isolating the problem but unable to find a common variable...sometimes it happens when I'm in the middle of something, like web surfing or texting. Sometimes it happens when I press the power button, sometimes it happens when it's just sitting there not being touched, sometimes it happens when plugged it, sometimes when not plugged in.
I can't think I have a bad install twice and I'm not finding much on the forums here about others with a similar problem with the stock ICS. So I'm thinking either an app is being a b1tch and causing problems or perhaps something related to the battery? If there was one common theme, it does always happen later in the day or at night after the battery is down below 50%.
Does anyone have thoughts, ideas, suggestions on the likelihood of a bad battery or perhaps someone experienced something similar?
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Any special wi-fi config? (That's the culprit in my case.)
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Any special wi-fi config? (That's the culprit in my case.)
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No...never installed the hotspot hack, did have foxfi installed, but did not reinstall after reloading ff18.
im also having the same problem as well, and the problem has became worse and worse,what started off as once or twice a day,is now at least occurring every 10 min.I think im about to downgrade right now to stock gingerbread and see what happens
My phone has always had some amount of random "poweroffs" (not really reboots, I pick up the phone expecting it to be on and it boots from scratch instead). However its much more frequent on ICS (FF18/FH13).
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My phone has always had some amount of random "poweroffs" (not really reboots, I pick up the phone expecting it to be on and it boots from scratch instead). However its much more frequent on ICS (FF18/FH13).
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U can always unroot back to el29(gingerbread)i was having the same problems and now i can enjoy my phone
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I had that issue on AOKP M6, then realized my power button was actually broken. It would reboot the phone because it was actually stuck down internally. Had to get a new phone.
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I had that issue on AOKP M6, then realized my power button was actually broken. It would reboot the phone because it was actually stuck down internally. Had to get a new phone.
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The power button seems to be a common cause of random reboots and that's what I'm leaning towards now as no other software fix has resolved the problem. Supposedly Sprint ordered me a replacement to swap out phones. I'd definitely recommend trying a different Kernel if on FF18 and if that doesn't fix it, try rolling back to EL29.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus Sleep of Death

Problem: Cannot turn on the screen by pressing the power button sometimes. The screen is black or very dim, I cannot tell. One can see nothing on the screen, and it doesn’t accept any touch input, either. The phone still rings if there’s an incoming call. If this happens, the following several presses (about 10 - 20) on the power button will probably lead to a reboot. The “screen auto-rotate” and the proximity sensor may fail after the reboot, but will recover after a manual reboot.
Frequency: Fewer with higher Rom version. About once per day for 4.3.
Other description:
 The problem frequently happens when I just take the phone outside my house/office, and seldom happens when the phone just stays somewhere.
 The problem seems to be irrelevant to the remaining battery capacity or the uptime, but it never happens when charging.
 The problem seems to be irrelevant to the Apps installed.
 The problem seldom happens in the first 3-4 days after flashing a Rom, but happens more and more frequently as time goes by. My guess is some cache is stuffed by some trash, which causes the problem. The phone may be fine as long as the trash can be cleaned up on a regular basis.
 I manually reboot my phone at most every two days.
Solutions tried, but don’t work
 Flashing official ROMs 4.0.4, 4.1.1, 4.1.2, 4.2.2 and 4.3 following the procedure “adb reboot bootloader; fastboot oem unlock; flash-all; fastboot oem lock”, without google wallet, not rooted.
 Turning off the auto-brightness control, as suggested by some post on the Internet.
Does it look like it goes to standby normally or does the screen show gibberish and then turns off?
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Does it look like it goes to standby normally or does the screen show gibberish and then turns off?
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Thank you very much.
I think it's standing-by normally even through the screen is black (or very dim, I cannot tell), since it rings if there's an incoming call. I can see nothing from the screen, and I don't think the screen accepts any touch input, either.
Does this answer your question? Thank you.
Bobby_yan said:
Thank you very much.
I think it's standing-by normally even through the screen is black (or very dim, I cannot tell), since it rings if there's an incoming call. I can see nothing from the screen, and I don't think the screen accepts any touch input, either.
Does this answer your question? Thank you.
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Thanks.
Was just asking if you had gibberish yes or no. In that case i've got a different issue than you (Suspecting f*cked GPU).
Have you tried a different ROM/Kernel combination maybe it's related to that.
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Thanks.
Was just asking if you had gibberish yes or no. In that case i've got a different issue than you (Suspecting f*cked GPU).
Have you tried a different ROM/Kernel combination maybe it's related to that.
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No.
No, I just tried the official ROMs. Any suggestion?
Perhaps it's just busy in the background and running low on RAM. Give LagFix a try. Sorry can't link atm as I am on mobile...
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Perhaps it's just busy in the background and running low on RAM. Give LagFix a try. Sorry can't link atm as I am on mobile...
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Thanks a lot. I'm trying it.
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Thanks a lot. I'm trying it.
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LagFix does NOT help in my case. Any other suggestions? Thanks.
I've also had this blank screen with calls still ring issue for as long as I can remember, nearly 2.5 yrs.
I've always suspected it's my ROM and so I'd try out another ROM'S, BUT no other ROM works like how I'd like, so I always come back to my ROM.
It doesn't happen every single day, but it does happen very often.
I've tried using apps that auto reboot daily, but eventually this blank screen issue will return.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find any solution, so I just put up with it, it's like the 1 only flaw with my ROM.
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Not to be at all rude, but I'm really glad op has had this issue from testing other versions of Android, cause then at least I know I don't need to give up my great tablet mode ROM.
LOL
I think I've finally found a work around for this screen of death.
Using Exposed, download/install this module/extension:
Disable Proximity
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.mrchandler.disableprox
It does exactly what it's name is and ever since then I've not once had to remove my GN battery to work again because the screen went completely dead.
NVM
Screen still goes dead.
Anyone find an actual fix to this?
isajoo,
I had pretty much the same problems with my Galaxy Nexus running CyanogenMod 11 M12.
It got better by doing the following :
Blowing dry air in the earpiece… though the proximity sensor is clearly beside it. Can't do any harm though, I guess.
Settings/Applications/All/menu/Reset applications preferences (or whatever that's called in english) : that seemed to do a lot of good to my phone ! However, it's a very unsatisfactory answer on a technical point of view, as I still don't know WHAT was precisely needed. It's a "magic wand" solution for which I can't give an explanation.
Not specifically related, but greatly helped my phone in the responsiveness area : Trimmer (fstrim) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer), an updated version of LagFix that you may already know
Hope that helped !
(I wanted to try http://www.androidlegend.com/how-to-perform-proximity-sensor-calibration-on-any-samsung-phone/ as well, but apparently, /sys/class/sensors/proximity_sensor/prox_cal does not exist on my phone…)

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