So I have a stock rooted 2.2 evo. I have done nothing to it this time except use it for a hotspot. I understand that 2.3 is coming out in a couple of months and was wondering if I can OTA update to 2.3 while being rooted. I understand I will lose root I was just wondering if I could get the legitimate update. Thanks.
JerenOtt said:
So I have a stock rooted 2.2 evo. I have done nothing to it this time except use it for a hotspot. I understand that 2.3 is coming out in a couple of months and was wondering if I can OTA update to 2.3 while being rooted. I understand I will lose root I was just wondering if I could get the legitimate update. Thanks.
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Yes u can but u might just want to flash the stock rooted rom once the official 2.3 rom drops. That way u keep root cause more than likely in 2.3 the exploit to root will be fixed and there is no telling how long it will take to find another exploit but then again this is xda and I'm sure it wont take long to root it
JerenOtt said:
So I have a stock rooted 2.2 evo. I have done nothing to it this time except use it for a hotspot. I understand that 2.3 is coming out in a couple of months and was wondering if I can OTA update to 2.3 while being rooted. I understand I will lose root I was just wondering if I could get the legitimate update. Thanks.
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I wouldn't bother taking the actual OTA. It will be no different than flashing a stock rooted version prepared by one of the dev's here on XDA. That will still be real as it gets, and you won't lose root.
Also, sometimes it's been reported to be problematic to accept an OTA when you're rooted. The OTA may fail sometimes, depending on your hboot and radio versions. You're better off just flashing a rooted version. Or you could just unroot, accept the OTA, and then patiently wait for a new root exploit.
Also, in theory, if you've flashed unrevoked forever, you should always have S off, which then in theory you could just reflash recovery and go from there. However, I would not trust doing that, lol.
But if I flash the rom won't I have to download all of my apps again? I know I have to with cm7.
I would stay away from ota... the ota rom will beon xda probaly the same day
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But if I flash the rom won't I have to download all of my apps again? I know I have to with cm7.
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Yes. But that would be the least of.my concerns, considering there may not be a root exploit for.the OTA. You may end up losing your data if you took the ota anyways. You could.also just use titanium backup to backup your apps.
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So Gingerbread OTA is comming up, I reacently Rooted using Unrevoked3 method and have S-OFF. Stock ROM as I am not 100% on how to flash a new ROM to my phone (evo 4g). I was wondering if I can accept the OTA 2.3 update to my phone without un rooting. I am cunfused about wether my phone's root is permanent, and if that would applie to the upcomming OTA update.
From what I can gather from the UNREVOKED site, root will be permanent. Will this mean my phone will not accept the OTA and error? Will my phone accept the OTA but loose root? Or will my phone accept the Gingerbread OTA, and still keep root, so that I can continue to use my wifi tether.
I read the info as I should be able to accept the OTA and keep root. But I am a noob. Can some one clarify and explain?
Idk if you would have to unroot the device, but if u upgrade ota u will lose root
I don't think you'd lose S-OFF, but you would lose "root" in the sense that the OTA rom won't have the superuser (su) application in it. So you'd need to flash something to get it back. Don't accept the OTA. Usually rooted versions of the OTA get posted here quickly -- often even before the OTA pushes to all devices.
Don't except the OTA when it happens. You will loose root and it may be few before there is a working root method on 2.3. Wait for someone on here to put out a rooted version to flash.
-Frank
Do NOT take the ota if you are rooted. Nobody knows what will happen with each release, but its possible your phone could lose root permanently or even be bricked. When the OTA comes out, wait a day or so and somebody should put up a stock rooted rom on here. DOwnload that and flash it. If you dont know how to flash a rom, there are tons of guides on here.
So no OTA. Pretty much clarifys that. Now I have to figure out how to upload a Rom. Is it as easy as uploading a psx rom?
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ok my friend made me root his evo so he can tether while he went on vacation like 2 months ago. now he doesn't care if he is rooted or not and since the update is coming i figured i should ask this.
ok so ive googled, googled, and googled some more and i can't find a straitup f***ing answer to this. since my friend is rooted but still on the stock rom, if he accepts the 2.3 ots will he:
1. loose root and be stock on stock 2.3 rom
2. turn his pretty little evo into a fancy paper weight
just give me a 1 or 2 as a comment so i know whether or not to have him drive over and make me unroot it for him since he lives kinda far away and doesn't come often...
1. Lose root and be on 2.3
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^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?
If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
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plainjane said:
If he's removed any system apps, he won't be able to accept the OTA. I've never personally had this problem because I've never tried, but I have heard of others experiencing issues.
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he didn't delete any of the apps so...
Yeah but does he have a custom recovery? If he has cwm or amon ra I don't think the ota will flash.
if you cant live large, look big in the coffin!!!
Completely stock , accept the ota and loose root will be the only issue. Only if everything is untouched, no frozen apps or anything. Just tell him to sync his contacts and what not prior to.
UnrEVOked has some info on un-rooting and going back to RUU. I believe it's on their forever root page for EVO. Basically (don't quote me) they recommend getting a older stock Rom and flashing that before update.
Also you could go back to the nandroid you did of his stock setup... (you did a nandroid right?!) And then update which will cause you to lose root.
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monkeychef said:
^This guy.
But I am a bit confused myself. What exactly is edited in the android system so that we have root access?
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Read THIS. I hope that answers your question....
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His phone is bone stock except for root and amon recovery. No frozen apps no custom rom. So he should be fine?
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He'll be fine. He's just going to lose root and custom recovery.
A system upgrade is like a Windows upgrade. Totally reformats and installs the OS
Ok thanks
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Does the same apply if I have a custom kernel installed?
There have been cases where people have bricked their phones doing an OTA. Since a lot of things change and vary between ROMs, it is best to just unroot, and then accept the OTA.
Or, simply wait a day or two, someone will have a rooted version of the new OTA posted over in the development threads. Problems solved and avoided
the update will probably fail
i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?
You need to go back to stock recovery and you can get the OTA, as far as losing root, I had unrevoked forever and I was able to just flash a new recovery after it was done and I was fine. It didnt reformat anything nor will they have an update that reformats your data. I still had superuser installed. I tested this on 3.3 OTA back in the day, but there is no telling what HTC will do with each update. Now I use custom roms and just wait for my favorite devs the incorporate it into the rom. Best bet is to wait till the rooted update is on the forums and install that.
dr_acula_sxe said:
i have a question. im on cm7 and i want to try the new gingerbread update, i have unrevoked forever. if i go back to a stock rom and remove my recovery can i get the ota?
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So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????
HipKat said:
So, what you're saying is that, if you get your phone back to how it was when you bought it and first took it out of the box, factory setup, can you get the official factory release for updating your factory set phone to the new factory released update??
Did you SERIOUSLY just ask that????
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im sure he means revert to an earlier nand backup and restore
I want the new update on my EVO.. it is rooted with Unrevoked or revoked..
When I run the OTA update it goes to the screen with the android and a Triangle with an ! in it..
What do I need to do to get the new update?
Here are 3 scenarios that will help you out:
1. You can unroot by running an RUU, take the update, and lose root user access. There is currently no method to attain root user access on the new OTA update.
2. *IF you performed a root method in which you flashed UNREVOKED FOREVER - You can unroot, accept the OTA update, flash AmonRa PC36IMG.zip and still retain root user access
3. You can manually update the radios, wimax, etc; and then flash the STOCK root version of the OTA update from the dev section.
Good luck, and ask any questions you need.
You are already rooted so the easiest way to get the new update is to flash a rom based on the new update. I personally use fresh 4.1.1, but there are tons of options to chose from.
You have gotten great suggestions and help above and my suggestion would be before going any further do alot more research. There is a lot of helpful information in here but none of it will help you at all if you dont read it.
I believe your best route is to go with the thoughts of the second posters scenarios and good luck. Have fun with your Evo but read OP's and stickies because in all honesty you could of been updated your new radios and rom within 20 minutes if you were already rooted.
Stock Rom - all the info can be found in his OP
i was android 2.2 then installed kings rom and it out me to 2.3.3
Can someone elaborate a bit on this point:
2. *IF you performed a root method in which you flashed UNREVOKED FOREVER - You can unroot, accept the OTA update, flash AmonRa PC36IMG.zip and still retain root user access
Not sure what I used but I suspect unrevoked forever but I"m not sure. When i tried grabbing the OTA, i wound up in a recovery screen I think. Can I disable root from in there, grab the OTA, and then download this AmonRa or should I just apply an image already floating around? Someone suggested Fresh 4.1.1
@joeynuggetz
Im not sure how to step back out from the recovery after trying ota, but I WILL say, to all who care about keeping root, just use one of the roms in the dev section that is stock with root. There are a few.
But yes, as was said earlier, if you used unrevoked forever (and only you know), from what I've read you can take ota, then reapply amonRA using the pc36img. (Im only reiterating what has already been suggested)
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kenjiwing said:
I want the new update on my EVO.. it is rooted with Unrevoked or revoked..
When I run the OTA update it goes to the screen with the android and a Triangle with an ! in it..
What do I need to do to get the new update?
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Do research. Figure it out on your own. Apply yourself. It will make you a better person.
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Last November I rooted my T-Mobile G2 using this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965&highlight=[guide]
I also installed Clockwork Mod.
I did not install any ROM, and I'm currently running otherwise-stock Android 2.2, build 1.22.531.8. I have ROM backups from Nov. 21 and March 21.
I'd like to install the 2.3 update (I've gotten the notification, but it won't execute, obviously), and have spent the last couple of days absorbing the various un-root guides posted here and around the tubes. The best un-root method appears to depend on which method was used to root the phone.
I've downloaded the PCI10 1.19.531.1 image, the stock_root image, and the stock recovery, and looking at the best way to move forward.
Is it necessary to undo all the modifications (S-off, HBoot, Recovery) before the update will self-apply?
If so, which un-root guide would you recommend for my phone?
Also, I'm running alogcat to try to get the download link - if I get that, should I try to update using Clockwork?
Thanks in advance.
Well currently there is no sure-fire way to root the OTA 2.3 release, so if you do choose to unroot and take the OTA you won't be able to get rooted again.
If you want 2.3 and still want to be rooted, you're best off either waiting for a pre-rooted OTA build that you can just flash to and not have to mess with the actual OTA, or you can use one of the AOSP-based 2.3 ROMs in the dev section.
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Well currently there is no sure-fire way to root the OTA 2.3 release, so if you do choose to unroot and take the OTA you won't be able to get rooted again.
If you want 2.3 and still want to be rooted, you're best off either waiting for a pre-rooted OTA build that you can just flash to and not have to mess with the actual OTA, or you can use one of the AOSP-based 2.3 ROMs in the dev section.
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Thanks.
But assuming I am OK with losing root, does anyone have a recommendation for which "back to full stock" guide to use?
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Thanks.
But assuming I am OK with losing root, does anyone have a recommendation for which "back to full stock" guide to use?
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You're okay with losing root only if you're okay with losing any of the features you use that required you to root it. If you rooted in order to overclock, you won't be able to anymore; if you rooted to get rid of the bloatware, you won't be able to anymore.
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Now I'm not sure if this applies to all gingerbread otas, but you should always be able to go back again if you need to, since there's now a way to downgade and subsequently achieve root: Downgrade
OP:
I agree with martonikaj - I am doing what he suggests - just wait for someone to release a rooted version of this OTA update!
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OP:
I agree with martonikaj - I am doing what he suggests - just wait for someone to release a rooted version of this OTA update!
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Yep, there's really no reason to get ancy and waste your time unrooting just to get a manufacturer release of 2.3, when you can have completely bone stock AOSP 2.3 right now and still be rooted.
And if you want the pre-rooted OTA version, you'll be able to get that soon too.
Thanks.
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Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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tnerb123 said:
Anyone else trying to update stock to 4.53.651.1 but it fails to install? If you take the ota after revolutionarys unlock I can not install the update. I believe this is due to the hboot version. Which seems to be how they got around the locking in he first place.
Also where is the ota on the phone? I want to pull it off the phone and try a re ruu and install it again.
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Have you checked Development section for the latest stock rom. Also why would you try to do an OTA after rooting. It may take away your root. Just wait it out or try a custom rom that probably has more than the stock 4.53 rom.
You rooted to get away from stock why go back when you now have options better than stock.
Rooted Stock Roms link here
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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tnerb123 said:
Getting root back isn't a problem. I want a nandroid backup with the.latest. the original reason for me to root wasn't to run a custom Rom. It was to remove the extra bloatware.
But after being in the EVO for a few months now I am going to play with the other roms. I just wanted to see if the most recent update had any changes worth staying on stock.
I will most likely be going to cm7. Since that's what I have on my craptivate.
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ok but still why unroot? Just download a rooted version and if you like remove the bloatware. going back to stock you loose options and gain bloat.
Stock rooted is better than Stock non rooted....all day everyday
The issue is your custom recovery, not custom hboot. Sprint OTAs depend on the stock recovery, which in layman's terms is a "fake" recovery. It can't be used by the user but the recovery knows what to do with the OTA packages.
Look around for a PC36IMG.zip of the stock Sprint recovery.img. I saw one the other day in the Dev section.
And the latest OTA is rootable, just to clear that up.
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Oh and to answer your where does it download question...I believe in /data/tmp or /data/local/tmp, but i am not 100% sure. It believe it would be in one of the tmp folders for sure though.
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