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seidio innocase FINALLY!!!

http://www.seidioonline.com/category-s/4794.htm

at least its finally posted so we know for sure its real close!

Can you enlight me about this cases. What is so great about innocases?
Features, quality?

Looks good (judging based off of the Innocase for the Nexus One).
How might this case be better than say a TPU/Epik style case? Just curious.

These are the only cases I know of that you can also use with a holster.when I had it for my nexus there was also a option to upgrade to "rugged"which was perfect for me because I was doing construction.
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Pics or fail

I hope it's a slider style case and not a snap on. If it's like this one, I'll probably get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBwr0Mx0HE

daewond3r said:
I hope it's a slider style case and not a snap on. If it's like this one, I'll probably get it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIBwr0Mx0HE
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I second that! I usually use a holster with my phone and this case looks sweet. Otterbox won't be coming out with a defender case for our phone so I think this is perfect! I'm gonna us this for the daily and the TPU case when I need to go light

Nice. This is the kind of case I was looking for. It reminds me a bit of the Agent 18 cases for the iPhone (but slightly higher quality, it looks like).
Has anyone used these cases before on other phones? It looks like it has some rubberized material on the outside? Does it attract lint and dust? The official Gel case (which has now become slightly stretched and useless) continues to pick up every annoying piece of debris. I've given up and gone bare until something better (like this case) comes along.

Do a search for "innocase surface" on YouTube and you'll see a lot of reviews. They describe a slightly rubberized feel to the case, but apparently it isn't tacky and doesn't attract dust or lint.

Yes it is 2 pieces and it slides together. Its had that nice slightly rubberized feel to it but not too muck to their point it grips too much
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Sold, sold, sold. I want this thing!
Do they typically sell these at T-Mo corporate stores? Or do you guys just get them online usually?

Great holster
I'm a big fan of the Seidio holsters. I've had one for my last few Blackberries. I tried several different holsters but I was traveling a lot and working in ceilings and not one of them lasted more than a month. The clip would inevitably break off. It happened once and I didn't notice until later. I had to spend over an hour looking for my phone that was on vibrate!
I chose the Seidio because it looked rugged. It never failed no matter how much I abused it. Now that I have an MT4G I'm really looking forward to getting one of their holsters for it. I've never used the Innocase, but I hightly recommend the holster. It's built very tough without looking like it. I don't see they have one listed yet for use without the case, but I'm hoping they'll make one.
Dave

meh when i had the nexus, the otterbox commuter is better than whatever crap and junk seidio sells *cough* batteries *cough* *cough* sorry i won't be giving my money to these assholes not even for $5.

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Jon C said:
Sold, sold, sold. I want this thing!
Do they typically sell these at T-Mo corporate stores? Or do you guys just get them online usually?
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Ya the batteries suck I must say but the cases are great.commuter has no holster
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meh when i had the nexus, the otterbox commuter is better than whatever crap and junk seidio sells *cough* batteries *cough* *cough* sorry i won't be giving my money to these assholes not even for $5.
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greenstuffs said:
meh when i had the nexus, the otterbox commuter is better than whatever crap and junk seidio sells *cough* batteries *cough* *cough* sorry i won't be giving my money to these assholes not even for $5.
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Really, I bought a Otterbox Commuter for my Captivate and hated it and returned it the next day. The hard plastic looked cheap and the rubber was a lint magnet. I don't have experience with Seido cases but I bought a holster for my wife's iPhone4 and it's great.

Had an Innocase on my BB 8900 and It was good for the most part. It was one of the slide up ones. But It DID scratch the chrome part on the phone.
I did drop it multiple times on the floor and nothing happened the phone. BUT, one day it dropped about 3 feet down to concrete and the case cracked and wouldn't hold the phone well like it did before.
IT did fall on concrete almost that high before and nothing until that one day.
Also sliding the case off a couple of times messed up its sturdiness. Sturdiness as in, when I'd slide it up it stay on. after a while it wouldn't stay on well.
On my N1 I bought an Otterbox case and it was the best case I had. Even though it attracted lint and was hard to take off sometimes, I wouldn't buy any other case !
EDIT: got a battery from them for my N1. The thickness made me get rid of it. Come to find out the stock battery lasted way longer.

I thought the Innocase II is the one that was 2 pcs and snaps together.

jofrad said:
I thought the Innocase II is the one that was 2 pcs and snaps together.
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yeah, it is.

Anyone else getting an otterbox case for this phone!!!??

I just pre ordered my atrix 4g , and my otterbox case! I'm jizzing my pants! I can't wait to get this thing ! I hope it holds its own for at least a year!

when i get the phone, assuming i like it, i will be getting prob the mid OB case

Hate cases. I like my devices to stay thin.
I'll be getting a ghost armor kit when it comes out, and using that. I have one on my current HTC Aria, and have dropped the phone a bunch of times, no damage. Might consider doing the battery cover in 3M Di-Noc carbon fiber vinyl so the back actually has the CF look all the way to the edges.

I was going to get a OB defender but since I ordered the multimedia dock I don't want a case that is hard to take off.
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Ordered... Love the big bulky bricky-ness protection it adds to the phone. I have to have a beltclip as well so seems like the perfect choice for me. I even went to the extent of getting a droid x belt holster and amzer case for my craptivate before the otterbox came out for it
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I'll be getting the Defender one. I currently have the Defender for my 3GS and I love it!

Was thinking about the commuter, but will wait a while to see if I even need one. Was about 6 months before I put one on my nexus one.

I hate otterbox, they are the only company that can be twice as big and twice as much weight as the phone and still sell.

Are the Otter Box cases available at AT&T stores already? Otterbox.com just says coming soon.

slymi said:
Are the Otter Box cases available at AT&T stores already? Otterbox.com just says coming soon.
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Yes they are, I have my Otterbox Defender already. Bought it at att for $50. Had the same case for my cappy, love the defender cases.

I used to be an avid Otterbox Defender guy but just got tired going bulky.

jgc121 said:
Yes they are, I have my Otterbox Defender already. Bought it at att for $50. Had the same case for my cappy, love the defender cases.
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Sweet. Did they only have the Defender or did they carry the others as well?

jgc121 said:
Yes they are, I have my Otterbox Defender already. Bought it at att for $50. Had the same case for my cappy, love the defender cases.
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oh my god wtf!!! I want my case ! my phone comes tomorrow!! Do they expect me to carry it around naked! What if I drop it? Jesus Christ!!!

I hope folks that ordered the Otterbox didn't also order the docks. Having to take that case off to use the docks is a quick way to never use the docks.

I really like Defender case with a clip. But can someone tell me how much "thickness" it adds?

Got mine but can't say I like it very much...don't know something about them just turns me off..but i got my phone yesterday and didn't want to mess it up or anything so I went down to my local att store and bought the first thing. Sucks cause now i cant return it (no returns on their accessories only exchange)

waltah! said:
I hope folks that ordered the Otterbox didn't also order the docks. Having to take that case off to use the docks is a quick way to never use the docks.
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I guess none of them work with the docks? What cases do work with the docks?

Picked up my Atrix today and got the OB Defender with it. I like the heft and protection of it, honestly. The only thing I wish is that the screen protector that is part of the polycarbonate shell wasn't so prone to grease marks. Looks like crap and I've had it less than 8 hours.

I got the otterbox today. Feels good on the phone. Doesn't really feel too bulky. Actually makes the phone fit better in your hand. I usually hate otterbox, but this one is excellent
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greg25 said:
I got the otterbox today. Feels good on the phone. Doesn't really feel too bulky. Actually makes the phone fit better in your hand. I usually hate otterbox, but this one is excellent
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I agree. I've always made fun of my co workers with their iPhones in an Otterbox, but after trying the defender on mine I bought it. It is bulkier, but not too bad. Not looking to use docks or anything so that works out.

Case contemplation

I have had my thunderbolt for about a month now and it is naked. I dont know if i should wait for an otterbox or a ballistic case or just buy something like the active x

as long as you're careful, I say leave it naked!

My recommendation is, if you don't know what you want, then go cheap for now until you do know. The S-Line can be had for just a few bucks ($3-7) on eBay (and some other web-based stores sell it too, I believe) and is an good case. Not amazing, but good to excellent. It will last you until you know what you want, and may be what you want.

I just got my active x case today in the mail. I was tired of waiting for Otterbox to release its case. I'm extremely happy with the case.

i went cheap, cases aren't the quality i like and well... they suck.
i like my case-mate pop case, shinny back gets stratched but i can live with it. the rubber deteriorating that users complained about is more like tiny eraser shavings on mine from the friction going in and out of my pocket, but it comes and goes. i'm still closely examining it. its a GREAT case, kind of thick, but lots of protection.
i might get the case-mate barely there case since i'm very careful with my phone.
another suggestion is the HTC (OEM) TPU case, I like QUALITY TPU cases because they're thin and the material is great.

+1 for the case mate pop, got mine 20% off (use google to search for coupons, 2 minutes saved me $8 lol), standard shipping, case ordered friday morning and delivered via first class mail monday afternoon. I like the fit, I like the protection, and I honestly think the white case is bad ass (makes my phone look like a storm trooper IMO). Otterbox has no plans of releasing a commuter case based on my communications with them and the defender is just overkill for my needs.

wouldnt waste my money on the pop case. im on my second one and it already jacked up.

mbh87 said:
wouldnt waste my money on the pop case. im on my second one and it already jacked up.
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im not sure if its a hit or miss but some people say theirs is fine while others complain. but i held off for a month because of the claims, im hoping that mine will last.

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im not sure if its a hit or miss but some people say theirs is fine while others complain. but i held off for a month because of the claims, im hoping that mine will last.
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99% of the people Ive seen have problems with them. I wouldnt take my chances.

On Ebay I found an Otterbox knock off for thirteen dollars with no shipping cost. Had the built in screen protector and all which I promptly removed because it sucked. Came with a hard snap on shell and a rubber case to put around that. It doesn't look to bad at all and was a lot cheaper than Otterbox.
Mah BAMF Thunderbolt

saw the one on ebay can you post pics?
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lippstuh said:
i went cheap, cases aren't the quality i like and well... they suck.
i like my case-mate pop case, shinny back gets stratched but i can live with it. the rubber deteriorating that users complained about is more like tiny eraser shavings on mine from the friction going in and out of my pocket, but it comes and goes. i'm still closely examining it. its a GREAT case, kind of thick, but lots of protection.
i might get the case-mate barely there case since i'm very careful with my phone.
another suggestion is the HTC (OEM) TPU case, I like QUALITY TPU cases because they're thin and the material is great.
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+1 for the case mate. I got mine in white. BTW I contacted case mate about the rubber wearing out. (i take my phone out of the case a lot to swap out batteries) and they sent me another case for free and let me keep my old one. 2 for 1 bonus!
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I'm using the body glove case that I got off edau for 17 and it fits great good material and great texture
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The Seidio Surface case fits very well, doesn't add much bulk to the phone, and probably comes in any color you're likely to want. Seem to be available at a variety of prices, so pretty good deals to be had.

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I just got my active x case today in the mail. I was tired of waiting for Otterbox to release its case. I'm extremely happy with the case.
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+1. Doesn't add too much bulk like the OB defender, and still feels good in the hands. No problems with cracking after a drop nor with rubber deterioration.
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go with the rearth ringke case. its amazing.

Dilpickle1 said:
go with the rearth ringke case. its amazing.
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i am looking for a case that would protect if it was dropped and bumped around

After purchasing a soft case at the Verizon store where I bought my TB, I chucked it a few days later after it fell off a bunch of times. I ended up buying the Seidio Innocase II Surface Case on ebay. Best case imho.
It fits well and seems pretty sturdy. I know it's a pricey case, but I'm looking at the long-term in not having to buy a bunch of "cheaper" cases down the road when one will suffice.

ThatFool said:
i am looking for a case that would protect if it was dropped and bumped around
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The active-x from seidio worked for me. I've dropped it from about 3-4 feet with no ill effects. Doesn't add to much bulk, but is a little pricier than some cases. Use disc2011 for 10% off.
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similar to otterbox

Is there any case similar to the otterbox, only not quite so big?

Icarusfixius said:
Is there any case similar to the otterbox, only not quite so big?
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Yes, except there a little different. the designs are very similar though.
Armor Case is made by chinese manufacturers but they are available in alot more colors than what Otterbox offers.
the holster and design of the case are nearly identical to the Defender case
Here's all the cases (nearly all of them anyway) all on one site.
http://www.daydeal.com/home.php?cat=5431
And here's a bunch more on eBay for cheap
http://compare.ebay.com/like/200614354586?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar&_lwgsi=y

I personally love my black aegis case

I got a Body Glove off Amazon for $12. Very happy with it. Good compromise between bulk and protection. That, and a pack of 5 screen protectors for $6-7.

I used to have a trident case on my EVO smaller than otterbox and still very protective and also had pet screen, it was perfect, I read on another thread, their website just started making them for the thunderbolt. That's what I'm gonna order for my next case.
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http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52987&cat=5431
Looks just like an Otterbox! Wow...ordering now to test the build quality.

Seidio........ awesome cases..... 3 different options, Surface, Active, Convert

When I use a case, I just use the quick snap on Seidio case. Seems to do the trick.

sklobopes said:
http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=52987&cat=5431
Looks just like an Otterbox! Wow...ordering now to test the build quality.
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I was thinking about doing the same thing. I looked around for reviews on these, but could not find any. Can you check back when you get it and let us know what you think?? Thanks

Yea, I'll post a pic review of the case. For only 13.57 + shipping for a essentially a Otterbox without the logo on the back is pretty good if you ask me.... Ill be getting it in in about 5 days.
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Acase Superleggera for E4GT

I currently have the TPU Black Matte and it is quite a good case,... good fit, but not so much when it comes to protection. Has anyone seen either the Acase or an Aegis case for our phone about? Every time I do a search, I get fed non-Spint Galaxy SII Options or cases for the original slider Epic 4G. Any other options I should be looking at? Kinda given up on Otterbox after all the fitment complaints I've read about and my experience with the Evo 4G.

Just got the Aegis case from this site:
http://www.cyclopscase.com/epic-4g-touch/
Used Code TOM25% to get 25% off so with free shipping it was a little over $18. Love the case especially for the price! If you decide you like them check what color you want first on tridents website because they still dont have pictures on cyclopscase website.

Is this a new case? Pictures?

locoboi187 said:
Is this a new case? Pictures?
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yes its a new here is the link to the official company website:
http://www.tridenteer.com/categories/Samsung-Epic-4G-Touch/
I am very pleased with it myself...there is another thread here somewhere with some more reviews...

The Aegis case has been out for a couple months now. I got it when it was first released and I still love it. I don't use it that much anymore because I prefer something slimmer, but when I'm on the job that's my go to case.

how do AUX wires fit?

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Just got the Aegis case from this site:
http://www.cyclopscase.com/epic-4g-touch/
Used Code TOM25% to get 25% off so with free shipping it was a little over $18. Love the case especially for the price! If you decide you like them check what color you want first on tridents website because they still dont have pictures on cyclopscase website.
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Thanks for the link beseen, just ordered one. The coupon code was still active, so saving a little over 11 bucks on the $30 price tag Trident has on their website. Free shipping just means I'll get it sometimes in Juvember. That's cool though, I'll just keep rolling with the TPU until it gets here. If this Aegis is as well built and thought out as the Evo 3D Aegis, I'll be satisfied. I'll still wonder about the Acase, it's gotten nice reviews too.
How responsive is the volume rocker and sleep button?
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ericpd said:
Thanks for the link beseen, just ordered one. The coupon code was still active, so saving a little over 11 bucks on the $30 price tag Trident has on their website. Free shipping just means I'll get it sometimes in Juvember. That's cool though, I'll just keep rolling with the TPU until it gets here. If this Aegis is as well built and thought out as the Evo 3D Aegis, I'll be satisfied. I'll still wonder about the Acase, it's gotten nice reviews too.
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cool i think my case came in about a week after I ordered it....going from the TPU case myself the buttons are not even comparable...You'll actually probably have to get used to how easy it is to use them

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cool i think my case came in about a week after I ordered it....going from the TPU case myself the buttons are not even comparable...You'll actually probably have to get used to how easy it is to use them
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Yeah, I'm figuring about a week too. You know, the volume rocker design is the only I have with the TPU. I mean if you want slim and your mission is to protect beauty, there ain't a better case in my opinion. They fit like a glove, easy battery changes if needed, very easy on adding weight and girth, and won't scratch the E4GT from within. What more can you ask,... oh yeah, price! But I'm looking to protection more than just a pretty face when it comes to this phone. And I'm done with Otterbox. I mean they stand behind their products like a champ,... but what's the utility in getting a replacement case that's bringing to the table the same issues the original case brought. Oh well,... the deed is done. I'll be rocking Aegis in a couple days. And I'm happy,... I think! Plus I read somewhere that Otterbox has decided to not even touch the E4GT.

Can someone please tell me how car AUX cables fit? The wire is pretty thick and they do not fit on my tpu s line hybrid case
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locoboi187 said:
Can someone please tell me how car AUX cables fit? The wire is pretty thick and they do not fit on my tpu s line hybrid case
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You mean your car hook up has a Mini USB jack that connect to your phone, and you wanna to know if the case's USB port opening is large enough so that it doesn't impede the connection between your car's cable and the phone's Mini USB port. Right?

The TPU case may offer more protection than you are imagining...
(your imagination I hope is where this belief comes from - let us know if your TPU case has been put to the drop test and the results!)
The TPU material seems like one of the best compromises for impact protection - hard enough that it wouldn't just mush away from an impact, but soft enough that it could absorb impact shock without transferring it all directly to the phone.
On a hard impact, a slightly flexible material will deform and absorb the shock, protecting your phone from damage - like "crumple zones" on your car. Best the car deform and absorb the shock and save your life than be rigid, transfer the shock of impact to you and damage YOU.
In the case of a phone case, if I dropped my phone hard enough to damage my TPU case, I'd be glad the phone was OK and glad it only costs me $6 to replace my case.
Most of those tough-box cases make your phone huge and are just thicker and harder plastic that make the case more likely to survive a drop. Haven't EVER seen drop test results or comparisons, but there's no getting away from physics.
Bear in mind also, on a related note, this phone is very light, so on a drop there isn't as much momentum. There was a "drop test comparison" video on youtube of the Epic Touch 4G vs iPhone 4, and with no protection at all, numerous drops, the ET4G came away relatively undamaged.
Found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6zlXBTREcE
If anything, check out this case:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL7PIjZbLY8
Note at the end when he takes the phone out of the case, it's a very similar material, if not also TPU, with thicker corners.
IMHO though, unless you are looking to have your phone survive a drop off a moving motorcycle or similar, you are probably fine with the TPU case.

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You mean your car hook up has a Mini USB jack that connect to your phone, and you wanna to know if the case's USB port opening is large enough so that it doesn't impede the connection between your car's cable and the phone's Mini USB port. Right?
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No i mean the AUX cable. Like headphone cables you would insert in the headphone jack. Sorry should have been clearer. So just pretend it's a thick headphone wire. Will that fit?

You know what geolemon you're right. The TPU is a tuff case. Didn't mean to imply that it offers little to no protection. Far from it. I've dropped my phone once or twice getting in-n-out of the car, and no harm at all. The TPU just dusted off it's shoulders and kept on thumpin'. No sweat! But I think I need something just a little more robust, just in case I go beyond a 3 foot drop-n-roll with the phone. The big cases, like the Defender and the Kraken and also the new Kraken AMS, are a little overkill for me though. I guess the sweet spot for me is the Commuter/Aegis/Superlaggera range of cases. Would have snapped that one up in a heart beat if any were left at Amazon. Can't find them anywhere else either.

locoboi187 said:
No i mean the AUX cable. Like headphone cables you would insert in the headphone jack. Sorry should have been clearer. So just pretend it's a thick headphone wire. Will that fit?
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Ohhhh,... I understand what you mean now. Sorry. Based on seeing the Aegis on a Evo 3D, yeah,... on the Aegis case seems to have a very flexible 3.5 opening. Once you pull the protective plug up and out of the way, there's a good bit of room for a jack with a wide belt size I'd think. Well at least on the Evo 3D Aegis. They've also made it so jacks with a 90 degree angle fits in pretty easily too. No worries with the Otterbox,... since they've chosen not to make a case for this phone. The TPU looks like it would have little problem accommodating a variety of 3.5 jacks too! However, this thread is about the Acase Superleggera for the E4GT, which I haven't seen yet. For this phone, I only have full experience with the TPU and partial with the Aegis (my brother has a Evo 3D dressed in an Aegis). Sorry if I couldn't be more helpful.

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Ohhhh,... I understand what you mean now. Sorry. Based on seeing the Aegis on a Evo 3D, yeah,... on the Aegis case seems to have a very flexible 3.5 opening. Once you pull the protective plug up and out of the way, there's a good bit of room for a jack with a wide belt size I'd think. Well at least on the Evo 3D Aegis. They've also made it so jacks with a 90 degree angle fits in pretty easily too. No worries with the Otterbox,... since they've chosen not to make a case for this phone. The TPU looks like it would have little problem accommodating a variety of 3.5 jacks too! However, this thread is about the Acase Superleggera for the E4GT, which I haven't seen yet. For this phone, I only have full experience with the TPU and partial with the Aegis (my brother has a Evo 3D dressed in an Aegis). Sorry if I couldn't be more helpful.
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This was helpful. We just need an Aegis E4GT user to confirm. Thanks
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locoboi187 said:
This was helpful. We just need an Aegis E4GT user to confirm. Thanks
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Hold the phone there locoboi,... I'm not actually an Aegis E4GT user,... yet. My E4GT is still dressed in a TPU. I'm waiting on my Aegis to arrive from CyclopsCase.com as we speak. Tracking says Wednesday of this week. Now my brother has the Aegis on his Evo 3D, and my comments were based on my observations of his phone. Should be safe though, usually there's not a lot of change in case model features between phone to phone,... some, but not a lot. An Aegis is an Aegis in most cases.

I just picked up a "Case-Mate" from Amazon, it was only 18 dollars with shipping can't complain.
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dts00 said:
I just picked up a "Case-Mate" from Amazon, it was only 18 dollars with shipping can't complain.
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How do you like it? What did you have before the Case Mate? Any comparisons?
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ericpd said:
Hold the phone there locoboi,... I'm not actually an Aegis E4GT user,... yet. My E4GT is still dressed in a TPU. I'm waiting on my Aegis to arrive from CyclopsCase.com as we speak. Tracking says Wednesday of this week. Now my brother has the Aegis on his Evo 3D, and my comments were based on my observations of his phone. Should be safe though, usually there's not a lot of change in case model features between phone to phone,... some, but not a lot. An Aegis is an Aegis in most cases.
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No I'm saying that we need an Aegis Epic user to confirm haha