[Q] S-Off questions and curiosities - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I can see that more is possible when you s-off but I need to know some things before I look at doing it:
Is it better to start from scratch: i.e unroot, re-root using unrevoked, THEN s-off my phone?
Will any AMOLED WWE RUU be good enough to unroot? (if its beter that i do)
For those of you reading this that have done it, which method do you reccomend? (Virtualbox, CD or whatever)
Thank you for any and all replies, I've already ruined one phone on my contract (i tried to OEM update after rooting stock rom :/) and i REEEEALLY don't wanna have to go thru that again. Honestly any and all tips other than answers to my questions are most welcome!
**Matty Matt**

Was your phone on Orange FW when you got it? If so, you'll need a gold card to flash a non-Orange RUU. If you're OK with this, use this one:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
I'd say do a nandroid backup of what you've got, go back to stock and reroot then S-OFF and then restore your backup.
As for doing the S-OFF, burn it to a CD and boot PC from the CD

Matty Matt said:
I can see that more is possible when you s-off but I need to know some things before I look at doing it:
Is it better to start from scratch: i.e unroot, re-root using unrevoked, THEN s-off my phone?
Will any AMOLED WWE RUU be good enough to unroot? (if its beter that i do)
For those of you reading this that have done it, which method do you reccomend? (Virtualbox, CD or whatever)
Thank you for any and all replies, I've already ruined one phone on my contract (i tried to OEM update after rooting stock rom :/) and i REEEEALLY don't wanna have to go thru that again. Honestly any and all tips other than answers to my questions are most welcome!
**Matty Matt**
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1) You won't need to unroot, I S-OFF'd when I was using Oxygen RC1 and it was unaffected.
2) Any WWE RUU should suffice, but you won't need to unroot.
3)CD is by far, far, far the easiest method.

thanks for that, and thanks for the link! I believe there's also a TUT on theunlockr.com that I found with some tips too.
EDIT: thanks Kalavere so at the moment it's CD: 2 USB and Virtualbox: 0 LOL

+1 for not unrooting. In fact have a read of this thread I posted when I was trying to s-off. Never did get to the bottom of it, but it seems something in rooting stock rom and creating a goldcard stopped me from doing it.
Once I flashed a custom rom it was fine!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987739
Yes CD method for sure.

Interesting, so by the looks of things it would save me hassle by not un-rooting! right well I think i'm gonna give this a bash this weekend/tonight depending when i have more time. Keep the advice/experiences coming guys!

It's not the hassle, it's just I prefer to do things properly and I've never had any issues doing it from stock. As said, do a nandroid before you unroot and you'll be good to go back to the ROM you're currently using once you're all done

Here is a fool proof how-to guide from DicsoHero over a MoDaCo, he helped me S-OFF my Desire back in December, it might be of use to you.
DiscoHero said:
AlphaRev 1.5 How To Get S-OFF
I am writing this from memory as I S-OFFed my phone sometime ago but here is how to do it. No responsibility if you brick your phone. This process is dangerous and may brick your phone so if you do not have a good reason to do it or do not know what it is, don't do it! Your phone should be already rooted for this to work.
1. Go to http://alpharev.nl/
2. Download AlphaRev 1.5 HBOOT reflash utility (first download link on the page)
3. Burn to CD / put on USD Stick using UNetbootin / Create VM (CD is the preferred way to do it ... "safer")
4. Boot computer from CD/USB while the phone is DISCONNECTED!
5. When prompted connect phone to computer using USB cable and follow instructions. Phone doesn't have to be in fastboot or anything, the program will reboot your phone for you. There are three steps to the entire process. Once you press enter and aknowledge that the process may brick you phone ... go make tea/coffee as it will take 10-15 minutes. DO NOT DISCONNECT your phone from the computer under any circumstances UNLESS EXPLICITLY TOLD THAT IT IS OK TO DO SO or you WILL BRICK YOUR PHONE!
6. Eventually you will be prompted to press any key to shut down the computer, that your S-OFF was a success and that you can enjoy your phone to the fullest now. Your phone will be in fastboot mode (if I remember correctly or may be rebooted fully). To check if you have S-OFF boot into fastboot and it should say ***AlphaRev*** and your HBOOT should be 0.93.001 now as in the screenshots posted above. Your splash boot image would have also changed (Search XDA for how to change your splash1 as it is doable in a few easy steps with "any" image).
Voila, you have S-OFF. You ROM should remain as is (the process only replaces HBOOT) while your recovery may or may not be there.
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go back to stock with a RUU.
i tried to S-OFF while running GingerVillain and it didnt work, i thought i bricked my phone since it went past -STEP 3 DONT PULL BATTERY OR YOU WILL BRICK THE DEVICE- and it stopped working so i pulled the battery
then went to stock and rooted and S-OFFed without any problems

well as other replies, don't need to unroot But makes sure that the stock rooted rom you are running the process S-Off is using the folder /data of your system so it's advice not use data2sd or whatever 2sd... more there
I used the usb boot, takes 5 minutes only, rooted stock rom 2.29...

Virtualbox is probably the safest method, but is does take a lot more setup
AmonRa 2.0.1 | PVT4 40000 S-Off Alpharev 1.8| HBoot 0.93.1000 | Radio 5.17.05.08 | LeeDroid 3.0.2 (A2SD) | HTC Desire A8181 | UOT Kitchen Mods

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[Q] Root question

Hi guys, got my Orange-branded uk desire a couple of days ago and have been reading up on rooting etc ever since.
In homage to my username, i'm following this to remove the carrier software:
(rootmydroid.cx.ux/) guides/general/howto-root-your-htc-desire-wildfire-evo-incredible-with-unrevoked/
I'm at step 3. My question is where can i find the most up-to-date official htc rom to flash onto my desire? I know a google search will give me loads of choices, but a lot are now months old and I'm keen not to flash an old version - im running 2.2 at the moment, but i basically just want an unbranded phone without the hassle of making a goldcard.
Is there one single file out there that i need? or will it consist of seperate rom and a radio files? Will the rom come as a .zip or .exe?
I know its a basic question, and once i've got the answer i'll leave you alone and follow the guide myself....just didnt want to flash with unrevoked, and not have a rom to reflash!
if it helps, these are my details:
bravo pvt4 ship s-on
hboot 0.93.0001
micro 051d
touch panel synt0101
radio 5.10.5.30
Thanks in advance!
Hi,
You will need a Goldcard if you're moving off an Orange rom even if you're going to stock HTC.
This is the first thing to do before going any further.
As for an upto date stock unbranded rom, see http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_151783_signed.exe
You will need to run this RUU on your PC while your phone is connected in fastboot mode.
Please be aware tho, that there isn't an Orange RUU available at the moment so going back to an Orange stock rom could be an issue.
Oh, and do a nand backup as soon as you have rooted.
Mike
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ah right, ok
I was under the impression that loading a rom via unevoked would effectively overwrite the rom i have now, meaning the carrier's applications would be removed in the process?
I guess a complete debrand isn't what I'm after - I don't mind if i still have the Orange logo on start-up (I don't want to unlock it from the Orange network either), as long as there are none of their applications like Orange Maps and Orange Photos when I'm actually using the phone.
Would i still need a goldcard for that? Or would i be able to follow the guide in the link in my first post, flashing the rom you suggested at stage 3?
Thanks in advance!
If you're going to go to a stock, unrooted, unbranded ROM then you won't be able to restore a nandroid backup as you need root!!
First thing, as said, is to make a gold card. Then use it to flash the 2.29.405.2 RUU. Then see how you get on as it is. If you still don't think it's doing what you need it to then root and go for a custom ROM
Right, ive created a goldcard using a guide on the unlockr.com
The website provides links to desire rooting tools 0.75 or 0.80 bootloaders, however mine is 0.93.0001. Can anyone offer any guidance please?
Thanks in advance!
http://unrevoked.com/recovery/
can i use that with a goldcard to just debrand then? thought that was only for rooting?
EddyOS said:
If you're going to go to a stock, unrooted, unbranded ROM then you won't be able to restore a nandroid backup as you need root!!
First thing, as said, is to make a gold card. Then use it to flash the 2.29.405.2 RUU. Then see how you get on as it is. If you still don't think it's doing what you need it to then root and go for a custom ROM
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The stock rom (or pretty near to stock) you posted a while back eddy was good enough for his needs do you think?
I think Frankdroid did a variation in your thread of it with root and a2sd+. I was using it for a while and battery was good and the rom smooth enough.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
ihatecrapware said:
can i use that with a goldcard to just debrand then? thought that was only for rooting?
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Right...
If you just wanna debrand, as is get rid of the Orange crap, and not be rooted then all you need is a gold card and the RUU from my signature. This will give you a stock, unbranded HTC ROM
If you wanna root and go for a custom ROM, use unrEVOked
yea, i just wanna get rid of the Orange crap. I've made my goldcard, following a guide on theunlockr .com, but have come unstuck when it lists some downloads for certain bootloaders that would allow me to run the RUU, however my bootloader is a lot newer so i wasnt sure where i go from here, now that i've made my goldcard
I've downloaded the RUU, but when i run the .exe, is says its not a valid win32 application....?
Basically i've got a goldcard and the ruu. How do i now get it loaded on my phone?
Which RUU did you download? Latest unbranded one is the one in my signature. Ignore guides online as they've not been updated for months
ive got the ruu from your sig. Goldcard was made following an old guide on the web. Will this be ok?
just not sure where to go next in terms of actually getting the ruu on my phone with the goldcard
Gold card guide is fine. That RUU is also fine as it's my upload and is the one I use myself (using Windows 7 Ultimate x64). Don't know why your version of Windows won't run it - unless it's a corrupt download
yeah, weird. Using Win xp. I'll redownload the ruu in your sig. Once i've got it, what do i do? Turn on phone with power/vol down? Then what do i need to select? I'm guessing once im in the right section, i just connect phone to pc, and just run the ruu .exe?
Sorry, loads of basic q's, appreciate your help!
Turn phone on holding the back button and you'll be in FASTBOOT. Connect to the PC and once your Desire says FASTBOOT USB run the RUU
An error (-5001 : 0x80070002) has occured while running the setup.
Please make sure you have finished any previous setup and closed other applications. If the error still occures, please contact your vendor
Bugger! Any ideas?
It worked! Thanks a lot for your help EddyOS
np
Remember, though...you'll need your gold card for ALL future OTA updates if you're staying stock. You may as well make your day to day card your gold card to cut out the faffing about!
ihatecrapware said:
An error (-5001 : 0x80070002) has occured while running the setup.
Please make sure you have finished any previous setup and closed other applications. If the error still occures, please contact your vendor
Bugger! Any ideas?
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Hey i am getting the same error...how did you resolve it.
Appreciate your help

[Q] Undo old permaroot & S-OFF from pre-gfree, or update to new S-OFF?

Hi guys,
I've been reading through the forums over the past two days but I have to admit it's hard to find what I am looking for now that the G2 forum and the DZ forum are merged, and the search isn't getting me anywhere for this one.
I have Bell Canada Desire Z permarooted and S-OFF'd, with CWMod. I did this before the newer gfree method and from what I can gather this can lead me to some kind of endless loop if I try to flash back to the a Bell RUU or other RUUs for that matter. It also worries me that I can't try new radios, etc.
I am getting very poor battery life compared to others so I want to have my phone replaced. I have an extended warranty from FutureShop so I probably don't even need to reset the phone to stock again (they swap on the spot) but I would like to anyway. It will also allow me to test the battery again with the stock ROM.
So, how do I go about flashing back to the Bell ROM and turning S-ON, and unrooting? Keeping in mind that I used the pre-gfree method. I believe it was Visionary R12 and gtab's guide.
Also as the title implies, I was wondering if it's possible to use the new (better) S-OFF even if I am already S-OFF'd the old way?
Any help is appreciated!
You can use gfree and achieve "real" S-OFF without having to unroot.
Just run it. Worst that'll happen is it fails if you happen to be on a kernel it doesn't like. If this happens, no harm is done, just a reboot.
Just run gfree from where you are, as the previous poster said.
That will put you in a much safer position, where you can get stuck in that boot loop that you can if you've only got the eng hboot.
Then you can flash whichever ROM you want. Then you can undo gfree if you want via its new options (see the Wiki).
Regarding your point about the merger, IMHO this issue isn't anything to do with the DZ specifically, and lots of users are posting about similar stuff with their G2s. It's all the same
Thanks guys,
I've done gfree (which is MUCH easier than the thread and wiki make it look - they need to simplify the text, it's overwhelming to look at given how simple the procedure is) and flashed the Bell RUU.
Now I am just about to root, and use gfree to undo the S-OFF I guess?
Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again!
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
Ganii said:
Ok,there is a new gfree method to get root and S-Off.
And gfree can now also be used to set radio S-ON.
But what about the backup "part7backup-1291675121.bin"
which gfree created at my sdcard?
No longer needed?
And with the new root and S-Off method,is it now possible to
to flash stock RUU 1.34.405.5 to get all original?
Because with old UBERROOT method this doesn`t work!
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I'd keep that backup file as it is a dump of your original partition 7 before gfree mods it. You can dd i back and put everything back to how it was, if you ever need to. Do you need to keep it on the phone? No.. store it somewhere on your PC.
With the old "fake" S-OFF you would get stuck if you flashed a stock rom because it would overwrite the engineering HBOOT which was the only thing making your phone think it had S-OFF. With gfree method, you have real S-OFF, so this should be fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=838484 for details.
tl;dr You should be fine.
Hm,little bit confused!
The backup I need to get original original partition 7
but not to get S-On.
To get S-On I can use the new gfree method,it`s now
possible with this!
I did the old UBERROOT method with real S-Off!
P.S.I read here about this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2
Not 100% sure I understand the question...but:
You don't need that backup file. If you delete it nothing bad will happen. Paranoid people (like me) would copy it to a safe place, but there's no real need.
You can flash whatever roms you like, including stock ones, as long as you have real, radio (gfree) S-OFF.
Hi guys, thanks for the help! I got it all settled, it was easy.
As I mentioned above, I used gfree to do a true S-OFF, which was easy.
Then I ran Bell's RUU and it worked without any issues. I assume the RUU install also flashes the HTC recovery back to the phone, I didn't check but it must..
A little summary for anyone who needs help in the future..
If you rooted/S-OFF'd using a method older than the current rage/gfree method (the one in the wiki) then you need to redo the S-OFF using gfree.
Steps:
Use gfree -f to S-OFF again
Run the stock RUU file on your pc (you need HTC sync installed for this)
Temproot (first part of the wiki guide) the stock ROM
Use gfree -s on to S-ON your phone
Reboot, and everything should appear like stock (aside from still being sim-unlocked).
Were u sucessful in returning your phone to htc after u did the above?
I didn't have to return it to htc, just to future shop, and it was fine.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

[Q] HELP!!! Strange situation on my G2

Thank you for droping in cause I really need your help! I made a huge mistake on it when I tried to unlock the phone.
The gfree method told that it doesn't work with radio higher than 26.03.02.xx but mine is 26.04.xx.xx. So I just did a stupid thing to found an older (official?) RUU and flashed it....
the radio has been downgraded to 26.02.15.xx(almost it) but the ship became s-on!!!!
And I tried the gfree several times on work! The former S-off method is depend on the offical rom so I thought it should not work as well...
What surprise me most is that the rom still has ROOT!! I've used clockmodrecovery to backup several times before the accident. The recovery still works however the radio cannot be flashed now and there is just S-ON!
So many words but I cannot find the point please help me, thank you
Now here is the brief situation:
1. The phone are now with an old radio. s-on and clockworkmod recovery(funny- -)
2. PC10IMG.img to flash radio failed. But by cwm recovery I can flash any rom or backup and restore any roms.
3. Before the situation I've once flashed a 4.02.17(?) radio and seems all gone right. Then I flashed a former radio as mentioned above and it comes here.
Are you sure you still have root ? Was it an official RUU you flashed ? Because all official RUUs will not have root (though you may be able to re-root, depending on the exact version).
A stock RUU/ROM will install a new hboot, and if you only had S-OFF via the eng hboot, you will lose that. Which is why everyone with S-OFF should make sure they have it via gfree.
What version of ROM are you running right now ?
This shouldn't be a new thread though, should be in an existing thread or in the Q&A forum
Thank you for your words! I flashed the RUU and found my rom is kept, just the radio downgraded and s-on...
I'm using the Q'N'D-miui rom...
Now I've tried to install new rom and I managed to install the CM6.1.1 tough the S-ON is still there, doesn't it mean I got the root? I the os I can find the superuser work correctly.
Sorry that I cannot find any similar situation in the forum and I'm new here...So I thought it can be a new thread
you might beable to just flash the spl by completing the last couple of steps ion the original g2 root process. don't quote me on this though, cuz i really don't know what i'm saying.
5. Open up terminal, type in "su" then press enter. Then without exiting type in "insmod /sdcard/wpthis-[YOURVERSION].ko" and press enter. Make sure you use the proper version of wpthis that applies to you. If you got the proper message type in "dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Do not exit terminal in this step at all.
6. Exit terminal and run visionary again to make sure you're rooted.
7. Go back into terminal and type "su" then press enter, then type "sync". Wait about 10 seconds then pull the battery out.
8. Boot into recovery by holding volume down + power off until it comes up.
If it says S-OFF, you're rooted! Good job!
I'm [email protected]@ cuz I'm now using the miui rom not the origin one, which version of wpthis.ko is suitable for me?? Seems that just a mistake on it can bring me a brick...
So [rom] [guide] [kernal] [patch]...not [q]
I'm kinda confused what state your phone is in. Because if you are S-ON you wouldn't be able to flash any custom ROMs at all.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
actually you might be able to skip the first step and just flash the spl
type in "dd if=/sdcard/hboot-eng.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18". Do not exit terminal in this step at all.
6. Exit terminal and run visionary again to make sure you're rooted.
7. Go back into terminal and type "su" then press enter, then type "sync". Wait about 10 seconds then pull the battery out.
8. Boot into recovery by holding volume down + power off until it comes up.
If it says S-OFF, you're rooted! Good job!
....... if you have access to clockwork, someone could compile an update.zip to replace the spl......
but I'm a noob don't go on my opinion alone...... ask someone responsible for g2root to compile an update.zip for the spl IF you have access to clockwork recovery...
Yes now its s-on and still can be flashed!!
I've never heard before...
to master.peterm:
Now my rom has root... and I've tried the similar way as you said, but when I do the step it seems ok however it doesnt work as I went back into hboot it is still s-on...
I'm very much confused at this point. I know on the mt3gs, they could flash roms with s-on (but, with an eng hboot with test keys and cwm), but doesn't our RUU's all come with official hboots?
I'm not sure if once you're in cwm if it can bypass sig verifications though.
to PanCubano:
That's why I thought I should start a new thread... So strange which conflicts with the conclusion before.
s-on means the system permit no third-party flash right?? As I saw it, it's not right on my phone....backups and new cm rom can be flashed normally but seems that radio cannot be flashed..
And which method of rooting did you use before? Im assuming the rage method with the hacked eng hboot?
the irony of your name and your problem is kinda funny
to thatruth132:
my flashermaster is not this flash but adobe flash...
to PanCubano:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833965
just the usual root method...
First, confirm that you legitimately have root. Download terminal emulator off the market. Open it, type su and hit enter. Superuser should prompt you for permissions. Hit allow and you should see your symbol go from $ to #
If yes, start the rooting method you did from step 2. If that's not the case above, start from step 1.
Since you already were able to sucessfully root the first time around, I still "strongly" suggest you always re-read every step (especially when you get to the dd commands)
Once you finish and can sucessfully confirm S-OFF via rebooting into hboot, come back here and follow the gfree method.
Do not skip out on doing the gfree method. Just because you were able to get s-off again (if you could) it doesn't mean you're done.
Finally I use the unpermroot method to restore the phone into stock state and do the gfree instead to s-off and simunlock the phone...
Thank you all above!! Though there is still no actual explanation of this.

[Q] Bricked?

I need the help of an expert!
I did the unrevoked root, which I misread (apparently) thinking that it did a backup of my current rom. Then I tried to flash pre-rooted stock 2.2 and upon reboot it's stuck at carrier screen (Alltel).
I decided to reload stock, but as I said I was apparently mistaken about unrevoked doing a backup.
Is the device bricked? Any rom I try to flash doesn't work. I can boot into recovery, i can mount usb, but that's it.
My ultimate goal would be to put rooted (or unrooted then root afterward) 2.2 on the phone. At this point I'd settle for 2.1 so the phone... works...
I aint no expert I'm afraid, but just a thought...
did you do a factory wipe/cache wipe/dalvick wipe before you flashed?
On my first attempt, I forgot and ended up stuck on the bootscreen.
I had a similar problem before, can't mount as usb, sd card does not work. You may want to try out the steps from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691639 . This worked for me.
Thanks,
I did do a data wipe, cache and dalvik wipe prior to flashing. I've gone through the full process a couple of times including battery pulls after reboot and hang.
I have usb mount through recovery (whatever recovery unrevoked placed on it). I can access my sd card through usb, I just don't know how to get this phone back to stock. I would be happy with almost any daily use rom at this point...
If you want to go back to stock you need to look for the RUU (stock Rom) for your carrier.
If you search this forum there is a thread somewhere which lists all the new RUU's
here it is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
Here's some phone info (in case it helps)
BRAVOC DVT2 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-0.98.0000
MICROP-051e
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-2.05.10.00.11
If you find the correct RUU for your carrier then follow these instructions to revert back to stock
http://theunlockr.com/2010/06/07/how-to-unroot-the-htc-desire/
Thank you. Was not aware of RUU's for download, searching now.
Do you know if a Verizon RUU would work with Alltel? I only ask because I'm not finding the Alltel RUU... Perhaps my search terms could be better? I'm searching "Alltel Desire RUU"
Update-RUU
Ok, I found an RUU file, for my Alltel CDMA HTC Desire....
But it's exe? And the instructions I read tell me to plug my usb and (in the android interface) select "htc sync" for how it should connect. I don't have any UI, because I don't have an OS! Thoughts on how I could use this file or should I keep looking for a zip to flash?
When it says HTC Sync, it means the program you download from HTC. The one for syncing your phone. Go to the HTC site and you will find it on the download page.
Edit: Ah I see what you are saying! Not sure on what to do if you can't select HTC Sync on your phone. Maybe try running the RUU.exe and see what happens?? Sorry if this doesn't help
Just a thought, the ROM's you are trying to flash, they are for CDMA Bravo and not the UK ROM's ?
Yes CDMA Bravo
thanks though.
Maybe take a look at this thread. It tells you how to remove the ROM from the RUU so that you can put it on to your SD card and flash it from recovery. (at least I think that is what it does?
Edit: Sorry!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10509780&postcount=102
I also read somewhere that if you put the phone into Fastboot , then connect to your PC and run the RUU.exe, it should work if you are S-OFF
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842703
THAT SOUNDS AWESOME.. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! Would you post the link though?
Perfect! This extracting the ROM worked! Tried everything again with newer version of unrevoked (had one downloaded to hhd, idk why it didn't occur to me to check for updates). Now running Cyanogen 6.1
Now if I can just figure out how to get the auto-backlight adjustments to not be so dim most of the time...
Excellent, glad you got it working again
Once you've played with CM6, you should try CM7, its good enough for daily use. In fact I use the nightly's (this ROM flashing becomes a bit addictive after a while)

[Q] Getting Desire Z S-On

Hi guys and gals, today we're going to talk about getting a Desire Z to S-On, but first here is a bit of background...
I rooted my phone using rage/gfree v1 or v2 in december 2010. That produced a partition 7 backup which I still have.
I also made a nandroid backup after rooting and installing CWR which I still have.
I have succefully removed Superuser.apk, un-rooted, put back original h-boot and orignal rom 1.34.666.5.
I cannot complete the final step; getting back to S-On. Here is what I have tried:
1) Get temp root with psneuter then use gfree v6 or v7 to reload my partition 7 backup. Did not turn s-on
2) Get temp root with psneuter then use Gfree to turn s-on. Did not turn s-on
3) Other threads about getting S-on talk only about the t-mobile G2, Not the DZ for example...
The part of the wiki that discusses returning to S-On is only applicable to T-mobile G2s. Not the Desire Z (http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Unrooting_and_Returning_to_Stock)
A few other guides talk about the T-mobile G2 but not the DZ (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835971&highlight=unroot)
Other guides deal with cases where you rooted using visionary which I didn't (http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/01/how...g2-htc-vision/)
Potential hints:
-I do not know which radio I had back then
-I am trying to get S-on after removing eng-hboot
What do you suggest I try?
Restoring your part7backup with gfree should work, you need to be on a 1.34 rom, and have a radio version at 26.03.xx.xx or lower.
Those guides for the G2 should work with the DZ also, seeing as they are identical devices (only difference is the hboot)
-Nipqer
is it safe to just run the RUU files instead to go back to stock form?
Running a stock RUU will return you to full stock (hboot, recovery, system)
BUT you will still be S-ON if you used gfree.
-Nipqer
Flash05 said:
is it safe to just run the RUU files instead to go back to stock form?
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its safe and it's the fastest way!
but you will return to stock 2.3.3
I had a similar issue months ago (partition restore didn't work), in the end I went the whole way and got PERM-root.
In Terminal Emulator I typed the following:
Code:
/data/local/tmp/gfree -s on
sync
After that I rebooted into the bootloader to check if it'd worked and if it did I flashed the PC10IMG.zip I used in the rooting process to reset it.
d_gkal said:
its safe and it's the fastest way!
but you will return to stock 2.3.3
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It depends on which RUU you run actually...
If you get the latest, then yeah you'll be on 2.3.3, but you can easily find froyo ones to use.
-Nipqer
Nipqer said:
It depends on which RUU you run actually...
If you get the latest, then yeah you'll be on 2.3.3, but you can easily find froyo ones to use.
-Nipqer
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im on 2.3.3 GB OTA. can i run RUU with 2.2 so that i dont go thru the hassle of downgrading, running these and those... then from here root then custom ROM?
No, you need to modify the misc partition, which is where the version information is stored to allow a downgrade.
Even RUU's check if its newer or older before flashing.
-Nipqer
If you use the ruu, won't your telephone brick?
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I'll try Scythes method tonight and report my results. I was gone this weekend so I couldn't play with it.
Scythe01 said:
I had a similar issue months ago (partition restore didn't work), in the end I went the whole way and got PERM-root.
In Terminal Emulator I typed the following:
Code:
/data/local/tmp/gfree -s on
sync
After that I rebooted into the bootloader to check if it'd worked and if it did I flashed the PC10IMG.zip I used in the rooting process to reset it.
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Thanks
Should probably reset your cid as well...
you can find it by doing
Code:
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p17 bs=1 count=8 2>/dev/null; echo
in adb shell, or terminal emulator.
then set your cid with
Code:
./gfree -c <cid here>
Note: CID is an 8 character string.
-Nipqer
Koopabro said:
If you use the ruu, won't your telephone brick?
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why?
10 chars
ok i have the same problem with an AZERTY Desire Z.
Now i don't have the original ruu, however I made a backup using dd to copy all the images to the sdcard. I don't have a backup of partition 7 though.
Here's the deal:
Went from a stock rooted gingerbread rom to stock 1.82.1100.7 rom (froyo). Stock recovery and radio restored. Everything is stock except, you guessed it, hboot. Can't get S-ON back. I tried the method in the wiki and it still wouldn't turn S-ON. I also have SuperCID eventhough i tried the gfree method to get CID back to stock (HTC__E41).
I tried upgrading to the latest stock 2.3.3 rom, but the hboot still stayed S-OFF. Which is a good thing since I am able to get CWM back and return to the froyo 1.82 rom. Once I was back, I also tried restoring a stock hboot but that didn't change anything.
So any suggestions? How can I get this device back to S-ON?
yozgatg said:
I tried upgrading to the latest stock 2.3.3 rom, but the hboot still stayed S-OFF.
So any suggestions? How can I get this device back to S-ON?
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And i also have cid 11111111
I have to send the phone back cause of continue freezes but i think sending it with s-off and supercid won't help me to get it changed by guarantee
me too failed to get the S -on back again...
i am still figuring on how to do that for 2 weeks already...
basically read everything, tried what i am allowed. but to no avail...
i heard that people do send the phone with s -off for guarantee repair..
my ear speaker is not working anymore while in the guarantee period.
sad...
sevensaints said:
i heard that people do send the phone with s -off for guarantee repair..
my ear speaker is not working anymore while in the guarantee period.
sad...
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I've sent mine with supercid and S-OFF and they repaired it with guarantee without any problem !!
The ear speaker was not broken by the rooting process, am i right ??
I couldn't get s-on or CID back to the bell CID.
I sent it in for repair for the second time. I'll keep you guys updated...
I sent my phone for repair of the BSOD (black screen of death) a second time. It was S-Off and superCID since I was incapable of returning them to stock. Nevertheless, they replaced the motherboard of my phone and it was covered by the guarantee (confirmed by the new serial number). Unfortunately, the issue is still occurring.

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