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With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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Wow that's some big new. I'm sure all the devs would love to get a copy of it. I will for sure get it for my wife's evo.
I'm using Fresh 0.5.3 and want to know if I can just update to Froyo. I don't care about losing root since I know it will eventually be rooted again. Will I be able to update over my existing ROM. I don't care about having to reinstall my apps.
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Relevant to me as well. Running rooted stock rom for the Evo. Still haven't done any of the OTA updates. So if I do all of the OTA updates I missed to get to the 2.2 update, what will happen? Just remove root?
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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If you want to maintin root just wait for the developers to incorporate the update into their ROM's same as with the last OTA Update. Also, no one said it will definitely "break" root. Just a good possibility. So be on the safe side if you don't want to loose root... "be patient".
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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Okay, well how about answering my questions first
I'll update as soon as it hits, Use it until I get home, clear the storage, do a nandroid backup then runs that through a kitchen and flash it back to the phone.
Not terribly clean but effective. If it works. Probably won't since I'm sure the update will wipe the recovery.
So, I guess I'll wait for fresh evo to be updated.
derik123derik123 said:
With the update coming soon (Here) What do you think would be the best course of action to be? I wanna maintain root. But i wanna go back to stock(with the new update)
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thanks.
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A dev will release a version of 2.2 that has the *$#& that messes up root access pulled out and superuser patched in. Likely this will be down within hours of release, at the very least a couple of days.
All you'll need to do when the rooted version of Froyo is out is to wipe and flash. Just make sure you don't flash the un-rooted stock version that is likely to be floating around.
I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
oddlou said:
I frankly don't see anything near good enough (from the leaks) for me to lose everything I get from CM6. I'm sure after a few days, CM6 and the other great roms out there will be updated with the good parts of the update. Until then, no updates for me!
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Well I'm running cm6 latest nightly. I'll probably do the fresh then when cm6 is updated I'll go there
A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
jerryparid said:
A cleaned out Froyo much like DC 3.2.3 will be better than CM6.
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maybe it will, maybe it won't. Either way, I can wait until a rooted version is ready to try it.
I am still not seeing the OTA update from my stock evo. Just wondering if they are still rolling it out or if everyone but me has access now ;-)
ronnienyc said:
I am still not seeing the OTA update from my stock evo. Just wondering if they are still rolling it out or if everyone but me has access now ;-)
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What ROM are you running?
If you're running a 2.2 rom already it might think you are current already
Also, just in case you've missed the other billion times it's been said:
DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU LIKE HAVING ROOT ACCESS TO YOUR PHONE
nebenezer said:
What ROM are you running?
If you're running a 2.2 rom already it might think you are current already
Also, just in case you've missed the other billion times it's been said:
DO NOT UPDATE IF YOU LIKE HAVING ROOT ACCESS TO YOUR PHONE
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If I apply the OTA will it unroot my phone?? Sorry Noob question.
He He sorry neb, I couldn't resist ....
I am running stock 2.1, do not care about root at this point.
ronnienyc said:
I am running stock 2.1, do not care about root at this point.
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Then just keep checking, it'll show up eventually.
Try updating your profile, and rebooting wouldn't hurt anything.
Thanks for the ideas. So I guess no one knows if its a gradual roll out or if it's available for everyone yet...
I thought it wasn't coming out till thurs? What did I miss..anyway I won't be updating right now. Waiting for all you impatient people to report the bugs and for things to be updated.
Running rooted 1.47. Happy with it...but want that new PRL and wimax because reception here stinks and can't hold 4g if you step in any direction from where you connected.
Engadget states that Verizon is going to push the official 2.2 Froyo update tomorrow for all HTC incredible users.
IF this is true I have a few questions. I'm currently rooted and running Sky Raider 3.0 RC2. I did a nand backup of my old original 2.1 Stock sense rom. If i revert back to that, can I just check for updates and apply the new stock 2.2 Froyo rom that is pushed from verizon?
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ej_424
It is true. Unlike previous rumors, VZW employees were told today (this afternoon) and it shows on their bulletin screens now.
That and sometime between 1pm and 2:30pm they updated the support page.
So who's gonna jump in and who's gonna wait?
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
mb02 said:
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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Honestly.. It's pre-rooted, and is almost positively the exact same as the official OTA.. why bother?
ej_424 said:
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
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Honestly there is so much information out there. Do what I did when I first got my Incredible. Do a search, and read, read, read. Mind you when you're done your head is going to be spinning. But that is the best way to get all the information you need.
To answer your question.
it was said along time ago that accepting the 2.2 OTA may cause you to not be able to re-root.
now, unrevoked forever takes S-OFF and with this you can accept the 2.2 OTA and still keep root, it was permanent, but with the new release of S-ON there is absolutely no reason not to use S-OFF, then un-root, if you want the "official" 2.2.
I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
Mods will probably move this to Q and A,
But, you have to provide more info as what radio you are on, hboot.., etc. There are several threads started providing info as to how to prepare yourself...
I mean, the leak OTA has been ripped apart and placed all of this forum. The only thing you can get from verizon will be the satisfaction of a cool Blockbuster app and more vzw crapware, but hey if its what you want
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I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
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Skyraider pre2.0 was based off an evo port, yes. 2.0 and onward is based off the leak, hence the necessity of the radio upgrade.
Gotcha. That's what I thought, as when I installed SkyRaider 2.2, I remember getting an email saying "thanks for registering your Nexus One" or something like that... Thank you for confirming, much appreciated!
Your recovery image must be stock as well. There are several threads that provide the needed file to return the DInc back to 100% stock/pre-root (just make sure S-OFF is applied first).
Mandatory OTA?
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
I have used Unrevoked3, and Unrevoked Forever and love the phone as it is now (particularly the wifi tether). I want to avoid the OTA but do I HAVE to accept it? If I do, I hope I can reload the version I got with Unrevoked3.
(I assume that Verizon will, in their new version make you PAY to wifi tether)
Any info on this?
Thanks
charlier26 said:
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
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I'll be pissed if thats the case. gotta do everything all over again. But if we're already @ 2.2 shouldn't it recognize that and not force the OTA to even appear on our phones?
I'm still pretty new to this so sorry if I sound like a complete outsider lol
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
Hackenstein said:
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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IIRC, you will only be prompted if you have sock recovery installed. As for the OTA, it includes updates to the radio and HBOOT. The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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Not a 100% sure but I think its only if you flash a radio.diff twice you get brick.
Never the less just don't have the updated radio with old builds and stock recovery and all should be fine.
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Nope
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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That applied because the prior unrEVOked hack was simply a diff ... it patched. So if you apply the patch to the patch, THEN you brick. Flashing a wholesale radio (while higher on the danger scale) is not the same.
Just checking. I just went from MyFroYo6 to SlideM and I received a notification saying there is new firmware available.
Is this actually brand spankin' new firmware or was I not getting this notification because I was running MyFroYo6, Cyanogenmod, and Team Fenix?
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Just checking. I just went from MyFroYo6 to SlideM and I received a notification saying there is new firmware available.
Is this actually brand spankin' new firmware or was I not getting this notification because I was running MyFroYo6, Cyanogenmod, and Team Fenix?
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No....You need to update to CR's OTA which is the latest..Slidemeroot is based off of a older version of the firmware.CR's OTA also has the newer radio(which may give better batt,signal,etc..)
I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
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I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
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If you wiped I would say so. But shouldn't if you just flashed a nandroid backup.
But, my wife is running SlidemeRoot5 and received the update notification. We allowed it to update and it didn't really do anything, and she didn't lose root. But as usual, yymv.
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I thought I had installed his OTA. Not the ROM but the essential files. Did I undo this by going back to SlideM?
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But you changed roms to an older ver, you still have the same radio but that roms is older. The tmo update server reads the phone as needing an update.
Right on! I was just revisiting the Sense apps. I missed the copy/paste feature and Dragon Dictation. Nandroided back to MyFroYo6 after getting a 281 benchmark score. (Yes, I also noticed the slowness myself.)
Thanks for the answers, y'all. Just saw Megadeth, by the way.
If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
You aren't going to need to do anything, other than NOT take the OTA. The only thing you will need to do is wait from 2-10 hours after the update is out in the wild for the devs to get their hands on it and give us a fully rooted build to flash. It does not take long around here. There is absolutely no need to unroot and take the OTA. Who knows, if you did that you may not even be able to root again. So basically all you're going to need to do for the update is wait for the devs, and then flash a rom as usual. Maybe some new radios or something too, who knows.
I'm more concerned about when they will push the damn update. *Supposedly* it's Q2, but I'd bet if that's true, it will be late Q2.
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Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sure, lots of people say "wait for a rooted version of the update," but all I want to know is, is it POSSIBLE to safely upgrade even if you are rooted? Would flashing the stock update remove ClockWork recovery?
yes i was rooted before 2.2 and i was having a crazy day, long story short i accepted the OTA not paying attention and it got me a weird reboot then i was unrooted and on 2.2 i had to wait for a root method for it. but i heard of some people having their phone glitch in crazy ways, also that first OTA sprint rolled out had a bug that was bricking some phones
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If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
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Developers will simply make new roms, and then you can flash the "update" of that rom. it'd be the same way of flashing CM7 nightlies.
Or just make sure you are s-off, take the update, install it. Then install SU from recovery and you are good to go. Thats the whole point of s-off (other than flashing PRI, NV, and Radios of course)
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If you rooted with Unrevoked and have Unrevoked Forever, then theoretically you should be able to flash the update and still be s-off to flash a rooted rom over the update. You'd have to push the custom recovery back onto the phone, though. However, I wouldn't be the guinea pig for the theory myself. I'd keep 2.2 until a rooted 2.3 rom is available and then flash that. No one knows what will happen if you flash the OTA update as no one has is or knows what's inside of it.
Once it starts being pushed out, it will just be a matter of time before some posts a thread either:
a) crying because the update broke their root.
b) gloating because the update did NOT break their root.
Basically, don't accept it. Play it safe and wait. We've been on 2.2 for well over half a year, so 1 more day isn't going to kill anyone.
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To make it simple, the result of accepting the OTA would either:
A- luckily do nothing
B- "Break" your phone and not be able to re-root
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct!
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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The OTA update would include the new stock 2.3 rom in it. It would wipe whatever you have on your phone (regardless of whether it is Sense or not) and install the OEM Sprint 2.3-based rom that all will eventually be on all new Evos when HTC ships them out.