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Hey guys,
I'm about to updated from Mikfroyo 4.4 to 4.5 and I was wondering what things I should back up using Titanium Backup? I would like to keep settings, texts, and application data if possible.
Thanks.
First, I typically will back up everything. System + User apps and data. I do a nandroid as well. The selection comes on restore for me.
For a restore, first I restore all user apps + data (not the one with system data). I will go through the list and look for anything I might not want to keep. For example, moving from Fresh to Myn, I wouldn't restore Fresh Updater. You can use the restore all user apps batch -- it'll give you a screen where you can deselect.
Next, I will selectively restore system data. Again I use the batch mode, but deselect all and opt in what I want. Most of the things you might want to restore will be highlighted in green. For example, I always restore Browser (or Internet, can't remember which it's labeled), as that gets all my bookmarks, cookies, and settings. There's one for SMS in there. There's one for Bluetooth parings and WiFi access points. Rosie settings are usually to restore too, and that will give you your home screen layout.
Thank you very much.
Please stop using Titanium Backup to restore system files when you upgrade you ROM! Some system apps and settings are incompatible when newer ROMS. When I do backups I backup my user apps to one folder and system apps in another. This way I can just restore my user apps and their data in a batch restore but with the system files I only restore data to apps with the same version.
I make this thread because n00bs keep restoring everything including their incompatible system files and start to whine about the ROM being slow, apps FCing, and other assorted mishaps. I've already helped 2 n00b friends who had phones stuck in bootloop after doing full restore.
Which program would you suggest?
This is an interesting argument
I use Titanium Backup, I just don't restore system app data to incompatible apps.
I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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[email protected] said:
I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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So restoring the green ones should work fine? Especially the Application Widgets is important for me as it is much work to restore.
How to restore the red ones? Market + Samsung Apps?
If I do minor updates 2.2->2.2.1 is there the same recommendation to only restore user apps/data?
Thanks.
Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?
I restore things like my APNs, contacts and SMS from system data using Titanium backup. Across a range of ROMs I've never had any issues, although I'm not restoring every bit of system data- just a select few.
Mikulec said:
Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?
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It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?
rickg99 said:
It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?
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the market automatically downloads apps when you open it. personally, i do not back up my apps but instead use my internet connection to access the market and sownload all the apps back at one go. Q: Is the same service(auto download downloaded apps) on samsung apps?
Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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I do backup system data however I'm careful when restoring stuff. I check app version number and if they are different then I don't restore any app data for that.
The market doesn't automatically restore your user apps, that's why I restore those.
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers
[email protected] said:
hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers
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Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww
lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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I never observed that
webwude said:
Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww
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There's a bug with SGS and WakeLocks commands that TB never sorted and never supported or even gave feedback.
ScreenOn: will hang your screen On unless you reset phone
Keep CPU: screen bug is solved, but scheduled backups won't start in standby. They'll start later when you turn screen on. When screen is off, the will keep running (preferred setting for me)
Disbled: you'll have Keep CPU bug added with the pause of jobs when screen auto Off, as you expierience
To be on topic again, restoring green data is safe. Especially SMS, MMS, calendar and contacts data
For myself i duplicate apps folder on phone in case backup fails .
Root Explorer and copy APP file to sd card and or PC .
Backup fails then it just requires each app installing from the sd card .
jje
I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.
lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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Not on SGS roms
when you install CM7, it does
Furry Atom said:
I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.
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I disagree because many guys get confused as to what system apps mean. I had this problem after I restored system apps a long time ago. Since then I don't backup my system apps at all but chose individual system apps like Maps, Gmail etc. to back up.
Hi,
I begin timidly to try flashing some custom ROMs. Each time it is quite time consuming to restore system settings. So far each time I flash a new ROM, I re-enter all the system settings, then re-install Titanium Backup and restore user apps (that I backed up previously). I didn't try the batch job "Backup all user apps + system data" Titanium Backup. Because I am concerned that restoring the system data from one ROM over another ROM may freeze the device.
Question: What are the best practices to backup & restore user apps + system settings ?
Thanks in advance for any help.
when changing roms:
best practice of all: don't restore anything
good practice: restore user apps
normal practice: restore user apps+data
bad practice: restore system apps
really bad practice: restore system apps+data
bk201doesntexist said:
when changing roms:
best practice of all: don't restore anything
good practice: restore user apps
normal practice: restore user apps+data
bad practice: restore system apps
really bad practice: restore system apps+data
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Oh Wow, best = dont restore anything?!? That sounds quite time consuming. Can you elaborate on the technical reasons which makes restore a risky operation?
2LoT said:
Oh Wow, best = dont restore anything?!? That sounds quite time consuming. Can you elaborate on the technical reasons which makes restore a risky operation?
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restoring user apps if just as fine as not restoring anything, unless you are the roms you are changing between have different ui's or android os's like going from ics to jelly bean. But for the most part its fine. The reason you shouldn't restoring certain things is risky is because one rom may have a certain data structure with some features built-in as apps, which are incompatible with another rom without that structure. Its just a matter of the way the developers code their roms
restoring the app also restores its cache i believe, which may cause issues because caches are hash signed by each rom flash, thus switching to a new rom and restoring may cause the app to fail (it expects a different hash sig, from the previous rom), until you clear dalvik cache/cache. not risky, just makes you loose time as well, since you'll have to boot again to recovery and wipe cache again after restoring.
anyways, restoring user apps is a good practice, and apps shouldn't have anything to do with system ui. system apps and definitions is another thing.
i often fresh-start flash. i only use 4 or 5 apps, so.. not that big of a deal. i used to install any junk on my pc's, a long time ago. furthermore, i rather have a clean rom with few apps than a rom full of apps which makes it way harder for me to control whats going on.
Oh cool thanks for the explanation. I "Wipe data/factory reset" + "Wipe cache partition" before flashing the ROM. I hope that it should be safe enough to restore the user apps + data. Just did that yesterday and so far it seems like it's working OK.
2LoT said:
Oh cool thanks for the explanation. I "Wipe data/factory reset" + "Wipe cache partition" before flashing the ROM. I hope that it should be safe enough to restore the user apps + data. Just did that yesterday and so far it seems like it's working OK.
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Don't forget to wipe dalvik cache as well.
Allons-y
Great question and useful information for those new to this. I for one would say you CAN successfully restore SOME system data if you do so carefully. I for one always backup and restore Phone / Messaging Storage via Titanium Backup as this will copy over my SMS and MMS archive, as well as APN settings. Note this is only recommended when switching between Jelly Bean roms.
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This is what I personally do when I play around with custom ROMs...
Backup:
-Backup user app using App2zip (Zips all user apk), you can also backup system apk, but not recommended
-Backup user app+some system data (includes data usage, sms history, etc..) using Titanium Backup
Restore:7
-After flashing ROM and mods, flash the zip file made by App2zip
-Restore ONLY the data of user apps and system apps
-Reboot to recovery, and clear cache and dalvik
-Reboot
Successful all the time for me
kyokeun1234 said:
This is what I personally do when I play around with custom ROMs...
Backup:
-Backup user app using App2zip (Zips all user apk), you can also backup system apk, but not recommended
-Backup user app+some system data (includes data usage, sms history, etc..) using Titanium Backup
Restore:7
-After flashing ROM and mods, flash the zip file made by App2zip
-Restore ONLY the data of user apps and system apps
-Reboot to recovery, and clear cache and dalvik
-Reboot
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Thanks for suggesting App2Zip, can you please clarify:
Q1. What is the difference between "App2zip" and "Titanium Backup"? I suppose App2Zip doesn't save at all the user data?
Q2. How do you use Titanium Backup to backup data only? The closest I see is the backup batch job named "backup all user apps + system data". Is it overkill b/c I just want "All user data + SOME system data".
Q3. Where in Titanium can I select "some system data" and what does "some" exactly mean in this context? Providing a wrong system data restore would bring troubles. Can you please give an exact list of the system data which is safe to restore? I am interested in Wireless pwd, and settings related to Sound, Display, Language Input, Lock screen. So far I have no idea how to backup these settings.
2LoT said:
Thanks for suggesting App2Zip, can you please clarify:
Q1. What is the difference between "App2zip" and "Titanium Backup"? I suppose App2Zip doesn't save at all the user data?
Q2. How do you use Titanium Backup to backup data only? The closest I see is the backup batch job named "backup all user apps + system data". Is it overkill b/c I just want "All user data + SOME system data".
Q3. Where in Titanium can I select "some system data" and what does "some" exactly mean in this context? Providing a wrong system data restore would bring troubles. Can you please give an exact list of the system data which is safe to restore? I am interested in Wireless pwd, and settings related to Sound, Display, Language Input, Lock screen. So far I have no idea how to backup these settings.
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A1: App2zip takes all the user apk and puts it into a zip file. So after you flash your ROM, you can just flash that zip file too in the recovery. It's faster for me, because I don't need to press "install" everytime
A2: You can't do data only... You can restore only the data after you backed up. Also you get to choose which system data you want to backup.
A3: I don't 100% know either, but here's things that I backup:
-data usage
-accounts
-SMS (For the SMS history, but you can also use SMS backup+)
-clock (For alarms)
-country,language,timezone
-email
-exchange services
-gmail
-phone/messaging storage
-wifi access points
kyokeun1234 said:
A1: App2zip takes all the user apk and puts it into a zip file. So after you flash your ROM, you can just flash that zip file too in the recovery. It's faster for me, because I don't need to press "install" everytime
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Yeah that's true, this Install button in Titanium appearing at each app is really annoying. Does App2Zip also save and restore the user apps data/settings? I hope yes, b/c otherwise I can't really remember exactly what I have changed on each app over time.
2LoT said:
Yeah that's true, this Install button in Titanium appearing at each app is really annoying. Does App2Zip also save and restore the user apps data/settings? I hope yes, b/c otherwise I can't really remember exactly what I have changed on each app over time.
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Sadly no, which is a HUGE bummer for me
But what I do is I backup also using Titanium Backup, and then when I need to restore, I just flash the zip file and restore ONLY the data using Titanium Backup. Works every time for me
kyokeun1234 said:
Sadly no, which is a HUGE bummer for me
But what I do is I backup also using Titanium Backup, and then when I need to restore, I just flash the zip file and restore ONLY the data using Titanium Backup. Works every time for me
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How do you do with Titanium to restore User Apps DATA only? Do you use the Restore Job "Restore missing apps with data"?
2LoT said:
How do you do with Titanium to restore User Apps DATA only? Do you use the Restore Job "Restore missing apps with data"?
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No, you restore ALL user apps+system apps. But after you press it, you will have a choice between restoring apps+data, data only, and apps only. Select data only
kyokeun1234 said:
No, you restore ALL user apps+system apps. But after you press it, you will have a choice between restoring apps+data, data only, and apps only. Select data only
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Super cool, thank you very much for your help.
2LoT said:
Super cool, thank you very much for your help.
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no problem
Stop being a cheapskate and pay for titanium backup. Batch restore doesn't prompt with install button on every app
Pirateghost said:
Stop being a cheapskate and pay for titanium backup. Batch restore doesn't prompt with install button on every app
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I actually didn't know that. Sorry for being "cheapskate", but doesn't that the same thing as what my backup pro does? I tried that using backup pro, but personally found it take longer time
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Trinity Kernel, overclocked to 1.4GHz
Pirateghost said:
Stop being a cheapskate and pay for titanium backup. Batch restore doesn't prompt with install button on every app
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That's not a problem. I was looking for an advice about backup/restore not for how to save money. When I used Titanium to restore it stops at every app and asking to click on Install and when the app has been restored, it asks for another click on "Done". I am just reporting what I am seeing. Now that you said, I have checked the description of Titanium Backup Pro and may be what you said is the "0-click batch restore" feature which is available in the Pro version. I will give App2Zip a run and will see which one I like better.
What is your preferred way to backup apps and ALL save data between ROMs? I have tibu but I'm worried it won't retain a lot of my save data.
TiBu works fine. Just do the batch operation "backup all user apps" when you flash a new ROM install TiBu and the key and if you're lucky just go back into the batch operations and restore data in apps you ABSOLUTELY need like games or apps you forgot logins to... etc. But apps like twitter or Facebook where all you have to do is sign back in... don't restore data on. Once it restores all those data + app. Go back into the operation. And select the option "app only" then just hit the check and it will restore the rest.
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I've easily rooted and flashed several different phones.
The problem I always run into is restoring my apps, themes and settings.
Every time I install a new ROM, I lose all that. My apps are backed up via google. I've tried Titanium Pro...made backups, but can't for the life of me figure out how to easily restore everything. Is that even possible?
I was hoping the steps would be:
1. Backup apps, theme, settings, data (phone logs, pictures, etc).
2. Flash new ROM
3. Restore apps, theme, settings, data
4. Enjoy
But my step 3 has always been:
Re-install all apps, edit settings, put apps on homescreens, put widgets on homescreens, forget data...sometimes it takes me a day or two to "remember" all the cool apps and settings. Am I just plain clueless, or does everyone suffer in this regard?
I do not suffer from this at all.
Use TB to backup and restore APP only, no data.
Use nova, apex, holo or any other launcher that allows you to backup and restore desktop shortcuts as well as launcher settings.
Use SMS backup to backup and restore text messages.
Restore data using TB one app at a time if you really need it, just be aware that restoring data may cause issues with your new ROM. I restore data for games only...
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Titanium is a powerful tool, but not very user-friendly to the uninitiated. When you flash a new ROM, download titanium backup and the pro key (always do the key second). When you open TB, hit menu, then preferences, and scroll down to Backup Folder Location. Tap that and tell it to search the whole phone. After a moment it should find your backups. Select it, Hit Use Current Folder, then back out to the start screen. Hit the check mark in the upper right and when it presents you with your backup/restore options, select restore user apps. It's perfectly okay to restore user apps with their data. Just don't restore system apps with data (in fact don't restore system apps at all). As mentioned before, if you use a third party launcher, your homescreens should be saved as part of that backup (except for widgets, which you'll have to add back yourself). You'll still have to set your settings back and reapply any themes, but you're most of the way there.
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Cant back up theme.
Data restore works better when rom base is same, from one 4.0.4 to another. If switching bases, avoid data and setting restore
You should have no problem restoring data from downloaded apps thou
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