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How for is the development for NAND for the Touch pro ? (thinking of buying one tomorrow)
Last time i checked it was no where near ready for end user. Its still being tested and better developed to make flashing easy as flashing a normal winmo rom.
robuser007 said:
How for is the development for NAND for the Touch pro ? (thinking of buying one tomorrow)
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why would you buy a touch pro when the tilt2/touch pro 2 is already out ?
gmanfuzing said:
why would you buy a touch pro when the tilt2/touch pro 2 is already out ?
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Becuase I found one on ebay for $45.
babijoee said:
Last time i checked it was no where near ready for end user. Its still being tested and better developed to make flashing easy as flashing a normal winmo rom.
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If they're looking for testers I'm game. I'm no stranger to all that stuff coming from Vogue.
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Becuase I found one on ebay for $45.
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hmm 45 dollars isn't bad then. Still i wish the tilt 2 was out when i got mine. its what the phone should've been like in the first place seeing as the processor isn't even better.
All nonsense aside, whats the status of nand support?
the0ne.john said:
All nonsense aside, whats the status of nand support?
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See post #2.
babijoee said:
Last time i checked it was no where near ready for end user. Its still being tested and better developed to make flashing easy as flashing a normal winmo rom.
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I kind of agree with this statement, there are still a lot of little things to iron out...
With that said, the Vogue also still has some issues to iron out, and there's been a NAND available for that device for quite some time now.
At first I agreed that Android on the TP/Fuze was not anywhere near ready for a NAND. Battery life was a big issue, but with these newest builds I'm getting pretty good uptimes without being tied to a charger. Mind you it's not as good as WinMo, but you can't really expect that considering it's running the OS off of an SD card - which to me seems like another good reason to start building a NAND, Android would probably enjoy much better battery life if it was running natively.
So is something else holding it back? We can calibrate the screen, audio seems to be working fairly consistently... I mean GPS would be nice, but I don't think that feature alone would keep devs from building a NAND. Heck, they still don't have the camera sorted out for the Vogue (although they do have GPS and BT, BT audio doesn't work for them either!)
I'm definitely not trying to be a troll, I'm just curious as to what is preventing a NAND, because I don't think where the Android project is on this device would be so bad for the typical "end-user" we have on these forums.
However, if the issue is actually figuring out the best way to flash a NAND to the device, that's a completely different matter. I was under the impression that the project status was holding it back from being converted to a NAND.
So for what it's worth (I'm sure not much ) I feel Android is ready to be flashed onto our phones. I know I would flash it, I've been using it full-time now for a couple of weeks!
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I kind of agree with this statement, there are still a lot of little things to iron out...
With that said, the Vogue also still has some issues to iron out, and there's been a NAND available for that device for quite some time now.
At first I agreed that Android on the TP/Fuze was not anywhere near ready for a NAND. Battery life was a big issue, but with these newest builds I'm getting pretty good uptimes without being tied to a charger. Mind you it's not as good as WinMo, but you can't really expect that considering it's running the OS off of an SD card - which to me seems like another good reason to start building a NAND, Android would probably enjoy much better battery life if it was running natively.
So is something else holding it back? We can calibrate the screen, audio seems to be working fairly consistently... I mean GPS would be nice, but I don't think that feature alone would keep devs from building a NAND. Heck, they still don't have the camera sorted out for the Vogue (although they do have GPS and BT, BT audio doesn't work for them either!)
I'm definitely not trying to be a troll, I'm just curious as to what is preventing a NAND, because I don't think where the Android project is on this device would be so bad for the typical "end-user" we have on these forums.
However, if the issue is actually figuring out the best way to flash a NAND to the device, that's a completely different matter. I was under the impression that the project status was holding it back from being converted to a NAND.
So for what it's worth (I'm sure not much ) I feel Android is ready to be flashed onto our phones. I know I would flash it, I've been using it full-time now for a couple of weeks!
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Agreed - the only things I 'expect' to work reliably before flashing to nand are calls and data. Everything after that is gravy.
And bt audio works on cupcake and donut for vogue, but not on eclair. And the vogue's camera is just crap, regardless of os.
arrrghhh said:
I kind of agree with this statement, there are still a lot of little things to iron out...
With that said, the Vogue also still has some issues to iron out, and there's been a NAND available for that device for quite some time now.
At first I agreed that Android on the TP/Fuze was not anywhere near ready for a NAND. Battery life was a big issue, but with these newest builds I'm getting pretty good uptimes without being tied to a charger. Mind you it's not as good as WinMo, but you can't really expect that considering it's running the OS off of an SD card - which to me seems like another good reason to start building a NAND, Android would probably enjoy much better battery life if it was running natively.
So is something else holding it back? We can calibrate the screen, audio seems to be working fairly consistently... I mean GPS would be nice, but I don't think that feature alone would keep devs from building a NAND. Heck, they still don't have the camera sorted out for the Vogue (although they do have GPS and BT, BT audio doesn't work for them either!)
I'm definitely not trying to be a troll, I'm just curious as to what is preventing a NAND, because I don't think where the Android project is on this device would be so bad for the typical "end-user" we have on these forums.
However, if the issue is actually figuring out the best way to flash a NAND to the device, that's a completely different matter. I was under the impression that the project status was holding it back from being converted to a NAND.
So for what it's worth (I'm sure not much ) I feel Android is ready to be flashed onto our phones. I know I would flash it, I've been using it full-time now for a couple of weeks!
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I agree. I've been a full time Android user for the last two and a half months . No complaints here.
any news?¿ will be an android rom some day? or we shouldn´t expect that
There is NAND launcher/support for HTC Kaiser. Is it that hard to port over build one for toouch pro?
volcan123 said:
There is NAND launcher/support for HTC Kaiser. Is it that hard to port over build one for toouch pro?
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where can i found that?¿
thanks
EDIT: i have found this info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651861
we can learn from Vogue,it has opened source. http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb-index.cgi
Guys, believe me, WHEN the team wants to make it a ROM for NAND they will do it easily.
So just wait.
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I agree. I've been a full time Android user
hope the ROM for NAND，flash it
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where can i found that?¿
thanks
EDIT: i have found this info:
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Yup, thats what I am talking about. I wonder if the chefs for XDANDROID know about this?
rayman18 said:
where can i found that?¿
thanks
EDIT: i have found this info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651861
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These threads are about how USERS can put an NAND build on their phone..
Okay I'm going to tell you guys this just once.
First the developers have to get everything finished so that we don't need the few bits from WinMo we still do.
Then they can make a NAND build.
And BELIEVE me, they know how to do it. It just won't work at the current state of things.
And the XDAndroid team knows just as much about porting as the Vogue guys. The only difference is that we got more advanced phones and therefor it takes a LOT more time to make a port.
x2 right now the biggest thing is drivers. since there were never any drivers made for the touch pro/fuze for android, none exist.
since none exist, we must use winmo to initalize alot of the hardware that android uses.
once the drivers are sorted out (they are being worked on) and we don't need winmo to initalize everything for android, android can be moved to nand.
Phew that was nerve wrecking
But successful
Thanks to the wonderful guides here and supporting posts by the community, it was pretty painless. Now its just a matter of finding which ROM I'd like to stick with for the time being. I just couldn't wait any longer to play with Froyo, and I like the roughness of the N1 version but for now I've gone back to the Mocado Sense ROM until all the issues have really been ironed out with the custom Froyo ROMs. I have both images on the SD and it takes about 2 mins from boot to switch now, I'm impressed that I can back up and recover so easily.
I'm soo impressed actually, you guys are fantastic.
I guess really this is just an ass licking thread in the end
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
Nice one. It's a great feeling when you root successfully first time isn't it
You get a great sense of satisfaction.
If you like 2.1 roms over froyo at the minute, you should try one of pays roms in the dev section. They are a few pages down now as he hasn't kept the thread updated because he had to send his phone to HTC for repair (not rom related) lol.
His roms are very good, and a lot of people including me really like them. I'm on a froyo rom now though because I can't stop changing. lol.
al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
@socktug, okay I'll look at those.. I do like the inclusion of Wavesecure in the Modaco ROM but now its rooted I'm sure I'll look around before I settle. No point getting too cosy cos in a month or two an official sense Froyo will come and I'll have to flash that anyway.
(edit) I mean a custom version of the Sense Froyo of course
al89nut said:
that would be ass kissing. Ass licking is not quite the compliment.
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to each his own
seriously though, we are indeed fortunate to have such a talented and generous membership at XDA. things will get even better once Desire is sold in the US and more even people get on board.
I think ass licking would leave more of a bitter taste in your mouth and i imagine the texture would be something similar to Nutella.
+1 for the idea of ass kissing as opposed to ass licking (and no, i am not gay if that is what you were thinking!)
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This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory
Welcome to the rooted world
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
socktug said:
This thread is in danger of falling into brokeback mountain territory
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ROFL... indeed
MasDroid said:
ROFL... indeed
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You mean ROLF!
oursoul said:
Yes you're right I stand corrected, lets move on
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Yet you still haven't edited your first post At least we know what your preference is
Actually i did mean ROFL (rolling on floor laughing)...
Just a coincidence that Socktug is called Rolf!
Now that is what i call funny!
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Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
Yeah, you do sacrifice a lot of useful functionality moving away from Sense to a froyo rom, including the way it mingles all of your contacts together. It's a personal preference really but I prefer the mail app, HTC browser and photos app in Sense to Android 2.2, the mail app is actually far superior as you can use contacts from any of your accounts and the corporate address book when you cmopose a new message.
Not wanting to start rom wars here but I think Pays roms are the best - they include a lot of nice features like automatic ad blocking, I've tried pretty much everything on this board and I always end up going back.
As for rooting, it is necessary when HTC have given us such a pathetic amount of phone storage, I ran out after a week and only had about 20 apps installed. Rooting was necessary so that I could install apps to the sd card and use my phone without having to constantly do housekeeping in my market downloads.
Hey carrige, I just rooted 2 days ago, and I can say that I am seeing a lot of difference in speed and quality, compared to the stock ROM. Yeah I too miss the HTC contacts widget, since it used to sync every contact detail together, and liked a lot how the images on facebook were ported to my phone contacts. However I found something similiar to that, it only ports the photos though, and not the info.
As regards to ROMS, I only tried DeFrost and Mondaco's and I can tell you they are pretty amazing!
carrige said:
Wow pretty much same here! I rooted for the first time yesterday, but didn't go over as straight forward as I would've hoped. First I tried the Linux method which didn't work - apparently I need a goldcard even though my phone's unlocked and unbranded. Then it took forever to get the ADB interface to recognize the phone - major problems with Win7 x64 at first. Finally got that right though (after several hours). From then on it was quite smooth.
I installed PaY's BraveSoul ROM and quite love it
I want to try out FroYo, but there's one thing stopping me. It's kind of a small thing, but maybe one of you can shed some light? Here goes:
So, I like Sense. Quite a bit. But I'm willing to go to vanilla Android if there is a way to keep my contact information built up properly. i.e. right now, my contacts are merged with Facebook/Sense which gives birthdays, profile pictures, email addresses etc. all under one unified contact - will I lose that if I go to FroYo? Is there a way to make all those details static so they can be carried forward to a non-Sense ROM?
Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Well, I'm still on the fence. My phone runs very smooth, does almost everything I need, the only reason to root would be aps2sd but I think I can wait for the official Froyo+Sense update that should come any day now [sarcasm].
Of course, I haven't tried any of the custom ROMs, so, what am I missing? What would be the 3 most amazing things that you could say about the current rom you're using?
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Hope this isn't extremely off-topic!
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Not at all, I dont do off topic.
3 things:
1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
5- You can stick 5 up your arse.
Since rooting my phone has felt complete (even tho I've flashed it about 100 times in the past 23 hours), stable.. more unique, solid, cool, better.
I remember when I had my PSP and I butchered my only battery to make a pandora and got the m33 custom firmware on it. This is the same thing.
It makes the boundries clearer about who the device belongs to.. I'll give you a clue... it's MINE.
"Those who dare Rodney, Those who dare...!"
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1- The ability to perform a FULL backup to SD that can be reinstated in about 2-3 mins on a good day.
2- Being able to do small customisations like using the rotary lockscreen or the circular battery icon (which trust me is effing kool!).
3- I've had a go on Froyo (gone back to 2.1 for the time being for stability) and in 6 months I'm sure I'll get a go on Gingerbread.
4- A2SD+ means I will never run out of space, not only this I can further customise the ROM with ADB and remove **** I really dont need like 'stocks', 'peep' & 'Friendstream' (I ****ing hate twitter with a passion).
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Hmmm ... so let me summarize:
[BACKGROUD: I had a G1 and flashed it countless times, I know how the game goes]
1. why would you need that on a rock solid device? Backups areonly needed if you feel unsecure, if you flash it over and over again, so you can go back if something goes wrong.
2. OK, I get it, but this one is soooo small, it's not worth counting. Not worth the risk (don't tell me it's risk free because it NEVER is)
3. so you don't even get the benefits of Froyo but you (maybe) lose Sense. I for one love Sense.
4. OK, that is ONE. (I already stated thiswould bea reason).
So, bottom line, you are saying CUSTOMIZATION. Hmmm, not worth the risk IMHO.
P.S. I'm not trying to play smart, I'm doing this for the sake of arguments / counterarguments.
P.P.S. If you feel we are going off-topic here please say and I will start a new thread.
There's no such things as offtopic on an oursoul thread okay.
1- True say, cos obviously if you've rooted you're gonna try some crazy **** sometimes, its just good to know that with the Recovery patched you will never completely **** it up. And the backup just means that when you've made that perfect setup you can freeze it in case you have to replace your handset or unroot for any reason. Means you can Test a new ROM and if you dont like you can recover in minutes to your happyROM.
2- Come on mate, its ****ing cool.. I hate the Sense lockscreen, its bollocks.. I like the rotary one personally .. round and round hehe. This point was more than that, its about pure customisation.
4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
3- I said test Froyo, I'm not interested in keeping it cos I love sense too.. I might have kept Froyo if the N1 camera app wasn't so shoddy. I already miss my c905 camera quality. I love how on the MoDaCo rom you can move the homescreens about in 'helicopter' view
PS dont worry about it bruv, you're safe with me..
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
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4- Yeah you mentioned that but I added the fact that you can also delete **** you dont need, very good imo.
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Missed that one, very true, I agree with you, I hate a lot of those apps too.
oursoul said:
It really isn't that hard to root as long as you follow the instructions on the top of the Dev page here.
I had to have my goldcard in to root, but it was easy.. then applying the UnrEVOked Recovery patch was just the icing on the cake.
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Yeah, yeah, I know. Still, I don't feel like going through the "pain" if my phone performs SO well. The G1 was a completely different story, it needed to be rooted to make it a true Android phone. When I got my Desire I was (and still am!) blown away by the speed and all those things it could do right out of the box. I don't know, maybe I'm just getting old, but at some point I'm wondering if I'm actually using the phone or just trying to make it do things.
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Point I wanna make now, is my phone is now better than yours pascanu
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Oh NO, it's not! Mine is better for a lot of reasons! Want one? BECAUSE IT'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
BACK ON TOPIC (beware, I changed the topic now):
You still haven't convinced me. Anybody else would like to take a shot here?!
P.S. I'm surprised Market Enabler didn't show up as a reason to root. Maybe you are all Brits or whatever but for a lot of us Market only offers free stuff. But I decided it's not a reason to root since I can find everything I need on the "dark side". Sorry developers, I know it's not your fault but it's not mine either. If Google enables payed apps for Romania I will start buying again. Until then I'm a pirate!
I've got to admit, as someone that constantly flashed roms to my HTC Magic, I was very happy on the stock desire rom aside from the running out of storage issue. HTC did a good job. If the phone had enough storage I would still be running the stock rom now. I don't see any real reason to root other than the lack of phone storage. Froyo roms still don't work properly anyway - for me they ALL have an echo on the line. I would stay with stock if you are happy, don't crumble under the peer pressure!!
Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks
Without rooting is will be hard to backup your apps. However the play store will show you all previously downloaded apps that's you can 're-download.
What I've known to kill my battery is if I have several apps syncing to the phone, from those apps that you downloaded are they free games that might be getting advertisement.
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sync
screen on
4g data
so if you have apps that runs in the background a lot and constantly pushes notifications that will kill it.
being on wifi should save it a bit more than 4g
Welcome =)
Hey, Welcome. I trade my 4S for SIII about a month ago, As you said it is a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get used to it, its just great.
As far as app, goes, just install all the apps you had on iPhone. that's where I started it. Evernote, Pandora, iheartradio, flipboard, facebook, twitter...etc. I got most of the app I used everyday on it, so I felt right at home.
Battery also as you said, take a bit of a hit, i used to charge my phone every other day, now i need to do it every night, thats not really a big deal.
I then rooted my phone, installed CM10 Jell bean and it super great, got rid of all the bloatware that came with stock and Google now + porject butter just make thing so much much easier =).
I always had my iPhone jailbroken so rooting and installing custom rom is not a estrange thing to me, if you are not technical and rather stay in stock, just don't mess with it.
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Hello alooking forward l!
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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A bad signal quality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.
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A bad sireply. I uality can decrease batter life, have a good reception. Close unopen apps, dim down the screen brightness.
You can root it anyway, i cant think of any "system checks" per se. if you think its acting up, do a factory reset
None i can think of besides discharging your battery to around 20% than fully charge your battery, do this about 3 times. Called battery conditioning.
All your apps are tied to your google account. When you sign in again to google on your phone after a factory reset apps will start downloading. Make sure you are syncing to google.
Colors are not interchangeable, thats why samsung specifically sells two different colors. If you are feeling like a brave one, you can buy the shell online and rip the phone apart and change it yourself - this is the unofficial route though.
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Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?
Bronos said:
Hey guys thanks for the fast reply I will do factory reset later as I setup a lot already. What bloatware can I delete that AT&T gave me?
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Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??
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Just curious, what but why are you planning to factory reset??
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Sorry typo... I am not doing factory reset.
Bronos said:
Hello all!
So a couple of days ago I traded my iPhone 4S 32GB for an SIII. So far I am quite delighted. It is a bit overwhelming at first and it's still taking time to adjust. I have heard from Reddit that this community is awesome.
Anyways the trade went fine and made sure the name, ID, and the IMEI checked out. I called AT&T and all I needed to do was get a new SIM card due to data plans. I love the new refreshing look and the sharp colors and resolution. The Super AMOLED display is definitely on par with the retina display.
It's still within return policy so I might be able to exchange it with AT&T. Even though I didn't purchase it, but can I exchange it? I have the white color and would like the blue if possible. I have the receipt.
It runs quite hot when I use it for a while but my 4S was hotter.
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
Thanks
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running the bell version of jb I get 4 hours screen time, 2 hours talk time and 16 hours up time. Nothing special done, just debloated. I never use WiFi either, always on mobile data. Haven't had the same luck with the t mobile version though.
On stock,I would get about 2.5 hr screen, 1.5 talk and about 16hr screen.
These numbers of course are not always the case, but I check everyday at the end of the day and they are almost always pretty close, obviously if your usage varies, than do still your battery life. They have been days where I get 24 hr+ up time and then others where I have gotten 10. Either way, far better than any iPhone I have had (had then all but the 4s)
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try the LCDTest to check if things are working properly
go into dialer and enter *#0*#. there's various tests you can do to make sure everything is working as it should. to go back from a test, either tap the screen or press back button twice in some cases.
Bronos said:
Battery life is definitely much less than the 4S. How can I improve this? I use a wifi connection at home.
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Turn off auto brightness and keep it dimmer. In doors I usually have my brightness at around 25% or 35% and this is more than enough for me. Obviously turn it up if going outside.
Turn off syncs you don't want. I saw that you mentioned that you are on at&t and by default it has pictures to sync with picasa. Turn this off as it'll KILL your data, it'll be uploading your pictures all the time and with cameras getting higher and higher resolutions they make larger and larger files.
Some people say that juice defender is a good app to use to save battery. Personally I never liked apps like it that turn off data/wifi when my phone screen is off because for me it usually takes too long to turn those back on.
Stay away from auto task killers.
Bronos said:
What are some tests or things I can run to make sure everything is working fine before I consider rooting?
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No real tests that you need to run.
Bronos said:
What are some optimizations or some settings that are must?
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Can't think of any major settings that are a must to run. I would advise not to use the power saver mode that comes with stock as that thing made my phone a piece of ****.
Bronos said:
I'm a college student student. What are some essential apps I should get? I also watch a lot of movies and stream music is there something better than Pandora?
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Can't think of any major streaming music services that are exclusive to android. There is google play that gives you the option to upload your music from your computer to their cloud and then it'll stream your music to any device you want. I'd say download whatever apps you enjoyed on your iphone as many are on android as well. If you can't find an app do a google search for an equivalent on android.
Bronos said:
I want to do one last factory reset. I installed a lot of applications already like 20+ how can I back these? How can I backup everything and than sync it all again after the reset? I have an SD card.
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After a factory reset when setting the phone up, it should give the option to have the phone backed up with google. If this is checked whenever you finish the setup it'll start to download the apps you had. I can't remember off the top of my head but I did see a method on XDA front page several weeks ago that gave information on how to back up your apps without rooting, might want to look into that if you don't want to root.
Bronos said:
Are there any good protective cases for the S3? Are the colors interchangeable? I. E. Going from white to blue s3.
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There is no easy way to go from white to blue as they are part of the case of the phone. The only way to change without going to the store for an exchange is to rip your phone apart which I would advise doing. There are plenty of protective cases to choose from though.
Bronos said:
Is there any cool tip or trick that I can do with the S3?
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Don't know if it is still around but there was a tips and tricks thread for the S3
Things I can think off of the top of my head:
Swiping the side of your hand(think ninja chop) across your screen will take a screen shot.
Disabling s-voice from using the home button double press will make your home button return you to your home screen faster.
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Also I have quite sweaty hands. How can I take care of the screen?
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Buy a screen protector is the only bit of advise I can give you.
With all that being said, if you really want to increase battery life I'd advise rooting. This'll give you access to cpu control apps. The s3 is the first phone I've seen which has a cpu governor set to default at performance. The cpu governor is what determines how your cpu will scale it's speeds, ie going from 300 mhz to 500 to 1500 etc. The performance governor will only allow two speeds, the lowest speed and the max speed. This makes your phone very snappy but isn't battery efficient. A cpu app like set spu or voltage control will allow you to change your governor to something that is more kind to your battery.
Feel free to look through the forums for other apps you might want or info. If you're feeling really confident I'd advise trying a custom kernel or custom rom as they'll open up a whole new world to you, just make sure you research on how to recover your phone from a softbrick/return it to stock. I'd also like to suggest you make a nandroid backup of your phone before flashing anything in a custom recovery.
One more thing I would give as advice is to try a different launcher like apex/go launcher ex/nova/adw. These give you themes to modify your phone easily and without root.
I forgot one last thing to add. REDDIT!!!!
I have done a general search on Google and found several articles relating to this subject, but when I searched XDA I didn't find anything conclusive or useful or even informative. The Samsung Galaxy S4 was supposed to be at least a 16GB phone. To me, that means 16GB of usable space to install apps. I knew there would be some bloatware, but when I got my SGS4, I was annoyed to see that the device memory total space was only 9.72 GB, and the bloatware was installed in that space! That left me with only a measly 8GB to install my apps. So where did the other 6.28 GB go? From what I read, it was used by the "system" and hidden "Samsung recovery partitions".
Well, I do not care about recovery partitions. I would rather trust Titanium Backup and my Nandroid backups and have more usable space than have a recovery partition I can't access. I am stingy with my storage, which is at a premium on mobile devices. I like to have control over every megabyte and I don't like the manufacturer deciding how my space is used. I already got an SD card for it, but I still want that missing space back.
So here is my question; how does one re-partition or re-size the partitions of the internal memory of the Samsung Galaxy S4? I know that linux has some amazing partition editors like gparted that can re-size partitions without destroying them, and Android is based on linux, so is there anything like an "aparted"?
I think in the system partition aside from the actual OS there's an odd 2-3 gigs of temp space to be utilizing during updates via Kiev etc. Since the size of TW roms are so big it makes sense in some weird way.
However anything I've read regarding repartioning is supposed to be pretty risky procedure. A lot of us that have gone to the Google Edition rom are also stuck with the original partitions even though GE rom nearly a gig smaller than TW rom. So especially wasted space for us.
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I think in the system partition aside from the actual OS there's an odd 2-3 gigs of temp space to be utilizing during updates via Kiev etc. Since the size of TW roms are so big it makes sense in some weird way.
However anything I've read regarding repartioning is supposed to be pretty risky procedure. A lot of us that have gone to the Google Edition rom are also stuck with the original partitions even though GE rom nearly a gig smaller than TW rom. So especially wasted space for us.
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See, that's exactly what I am talking about. I don't plan to ever update my stock rom via Kiev, assuming I ever update it at all, since I flashed a modified stock kernel to get root. Where did you read about repartitioning being risky? I couldn't even find that much. Is it equally risky for all devices, or do the more modern devices have more options? I also flashed the Google Edition rom hoping to get the space back, but nope! It really sucks that a non-touchwiz, non-samsung rom would still allow a wasted partition.
Zaron DarkStar said:
See, that's exactly what I am talking about. I don't plan to ever update my stock rom via Kiev, assuming I ever update it at all, since I flashed a modified stock kernel to get root. Where did you read about repartitioning being risky? I couldn't even find that much. Is it equally risky for all devices, or do the more modern devices have more options? I also flashed the Google Edition rom hoping to get the space back, but nope! It really sucks that a non-touchwiz, non-samsung rom would still allow a wasted partition.
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In order to partition that internal memory you have to wipe it. And that means everything. System, recovery, download mode, boot loader, everything.
The connection with Odin or adb at this point would be totally housed in RAM. It would need to maintain that connection in order to complete the task of adding the new partition, adding the download mode back, adding recovery, and finally the ROM itself.
If the phone lost its connection during that process or lost power or the update process got pushed out of ram for any reason the phone would be hard bricked as there would be no way to reestablish communication with it to restart the process. You couldn't power it on or boot it to anything. It would be a $600 paper weight.
Meanwhile the alternative option is to just go buy an $8 external 16gb SD card or a $20 external 32gb SD card. That carries no risk whatsoever and expands your phone's storage well beyond the original 9gb of usable space you started with.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
Skipjacks said:
In order to partition that internal memory you have to wipe it. And that means everything. System, recovery, download mode, boot loader, everything.
The connection with Odin or adb at this point would be totally housed in RAM. It would need to maintain that connection in order to complete the task of adding the new partition, adding the download mode back, adding recovery, and finally the ROM itself.
If the phone lost its connection during that process or lost power or the update process got pushed out of ram for any reason the phone would be hard bricked as there would be no way to reestablish communication with it to restart the process. You couldn't power it on or boot it to anything. It would be a $600 paper weight.
Meanwhile the alternative option is to just go buy an $8 external 16gb SD card or a $20 external 32gb SD card. That carries no risk whatsoever and expands your phone's storage well beyond the original 9gb of usable space you started with.
Sent from your phone. You should be careful where you leave that thing.
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Thanks! And yes I also hit the thanks button . I had no idea that partitioning the internal memory was THAT risky. I am surprised nobody has come up with a better way, like how you would boot from a CD to partition your computer. Maybe a way to boot from external SD or something? It also makes me curious; if the manufacturer started with blank internal memory, how did they write the initial recovery and ROM to it in the first place? What are they able to do that we can't do?
Zaron DarkStar said:
Thanks! And yes I also hit the thanks button . I had no idea that partitioning the internal memory was THAT risky. I am surprised nobody has come up with a better way, like how you would boot from a CD to partition your computer. Maybe a way to boot from external SD or something? It also makes me curious; if the manufacturer started with blank internal memory, how did they write the initial recovery and ROM to it in the first place? What are they able to do that we can't do?
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Your computer has a bios that exists on a saparate chip from everything else. The bios is like a pre-boot that waits for you to hit the power button, then it looks for a hard drive with an OS to get going the rest of the way. If it doesn't find a hard drive it will look to a CD ROM drive that will take the next step.
The operating sysem resides on your hard drive. So you can wipe your hard drive and the bios will at least let the computer physically turn on.
On your cell phone all that stuff resides on the same internal memory. So if you wipe it clean, it doesn't even have something like a bios that can look for a secondary boot option on an SD Card.
Samsung probably programs the memory chips on a separate machine before they even put them on the mother board. Think of an old 8 bit Nintendo. Super Mario Bros. exists entirely on the game cartridge. It's pre programed to hold the game. You then take that game cartridge (which is essentially just a memory chip on a circuit board inside the plastic case) and insert it into the Nintendo in order to boot up the game. Without the game inserted the power button just blinks and the Nintendo doesn't know what to do. Same thing with your phone. Samsung programs the memory chip somewhere else, then puts the fully prgrammed chip onto the mother board and it boots up. (This is a VERY generic example. There are about 500 things that are different about how these two sysems boot. I am well aware of this. I jus used it as an example to help clarify the concept.)
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On your cell phone all that stuff resides on the same internal memory. So if you wipe it clean, it doesn't even have something like a bios that can look for a secondary boot option on an SD Card.[/I]
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Ugh that seems like a bad design choice. And all manufacturers are doing this? Nobody has managed to squeeze in a separate chip for the recovery, even on tablets?
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Samsung probably programs the memory chips on a separate machine before they even put them on the mother board.[/I]
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So what you are saying is that the process Samsung probably used can't be used after the chip has been placed in the phone without extreme risk? Got it.
Zaron DarkStar said:
Ugh that seems like a bad design choice. And all manufacturers are doing this? Nobody has managed to squeeze in a separate chip for the recovery, even on tablets?
So what you are saying is that the process Samsung probably used can't be used after the chip has been placed in the phone without extreme risk? Got it.
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You probably need to unsolder the chip from the board and use a chip programmer to write everything back to the chip.
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You probably need to unsolder the chip from the board and use a chip programmer to write everything back to the chip.
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I don't think I'll be attempting something like that. That would make me even more nervous than wiping the internal memory. I'm a GTAW welder, and I still don't think I would have steady enough hands to go messing with the physical chips inside my phone.
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One chip?
Anyway my other question still remains. Android software/hardware is all designed to run off of one internal chip that holds everything? Even on tablets? And nobody has attempted to break this mold?
You can actually adjust the partition details through what is called a pit file (partition information table)
There is a thread where someone was able to create the pit files flashable through Odin. While they are flashable, I have tried everything on my s3 to get it to work. I think there is some bootloader code which ignores unsigned or not genuine pit files. There is just something preventing them from taking effect even though it says it flashed successfully.
You should easily be able to take some blocks from system partition and add them to data without and risks.
Btw it's impossible to hard brick this and the s3. You would just need a jtag device to rewrite the bootloader back to the device. Some people have said that the USB jigs you see on eBay work. And for 5 bucks what the heck lol.
But generally speaking, playing with pit files and partitions can get costly.
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I'm still very interested in this. I intend to only use the Google Play ROM's, which are 500MB, rather than 2GB
Samsung said that the S4's system only uses 1GB more than the S3, yet consumes 2GB more in total :/
DON'T TRY THIS. OTHERWISE IT'LL BRICK YOUR DEVICE
There's a solution for S4 i9500, but apparently it was officially released by samsung. I don't believe samsung or t-mobile will do the same, but I hope so. Or if anything could be done from this to be adapted to m919 would be great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2429309
Zaron DarkStar said:
Ugh that seems like a bad design choice. And all manufacturers are doing this? Nobody has managed to squeeze in a separate chip for the recovery, even on tablets?
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I strongly suspect this goes to how ARM Systems-on-a-Chip work. These devices don't expect to encounter any kind of hardware intermediary between the processor and the chips. That's what the drivers are for. These devices are designed for simple bootstrapping, and the best way to do that is to connect the CPU to a single internal store of flash memory. Also, no device manufacturer expects to need to repartition their internal flashes within the device's working life. The partition sizes were chosen very carefully so it isn't necessary. They trade in some leeway space to be able to "set it and forget it." In the end, they don't expect anyone (including themselves) to tinker with it after it's been all set up. Normal users won't be in a position to encounter the recovery system, and even skilled amateurs trying to fix something mildly serious would find the stock recovery system sufficient. If that doesn't work, it's probably going back to the manufacturer.
Still a bad design.
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Also, no device manufacturer expects to need to repartition their internal flashes within the device's working life.
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So when they advertise a device as having a certain amount of storage, yet the actual user controlled usable storage space is almost half that, they don't think people are going to have a problem with that and will want to get that storage space back, through re-partitioning if necessary?
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The partition sizes were chosen very carefully so it isn't necessary.
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The partition sizes weren't chosen by ME, the consumer, owner, and end-user of the device, so it is quite necessary I have control over the storage I paid for.
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They trade in some leeway space to be able to "set it and forget it."
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You mean they trade so of MY hardware's capability for the current/future needs of whatever services they might decide to implement, even if I will never use said services.
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In the end, they don't expect anyone (including themselves) to tinker with it after it's been all set up.
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I tinker with all my electronics to suit my needs. I change the partition structure of my computer occasionally when my storage allocation needs change enough that it becomes necessary.
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Normal users won't be in a position to encounter the recovery system, and even skilled amateurs trying to fix something mildly serious would find the stock recovery system sufficient.
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This isn't about trying to fix a problem. This is about being able to control and use ALL of the storage I expected to have on a device I paid for.
It just sounds like you are making excuses for Samsung. Please don't. It is bad enough that we have to deal with bloatware, but for a manufacturer to reduce a device's functionality, knowing that it is risky/difficult to reverse, for the sake of their proprietary services that the user may not want is just unacceptable.
If I wanted a device where the manufacturer makes the decisions for me the I would buy an Apple. I choose Android for its openness and customizability, so I get annoyed when I see manufacturers deliberately reduce a device's customizability to make way for their proprietary services. I think manufacturers should respect the spirit of the platform they are making devices for, otherwise they are making devices for the wrong platform. More specifically, I think Samsung should respect the spirit of Android, and stop trying to shove their proprietary bloatware down our throats.
Zaron, let me put it another way. The sizes you hear advertised on TV and ads and so on are much like hard drive sizes and the "up to" internet speeds you also see; you're not expected to actually get every last bit that's advertised. The only way you'll fix that is to change advertising laws; good luck trying to get something like that through a legislature.
There's also the fact that those of us here do not represent the typical user of these phones. The average person wants to be able to just get their apps done and be done with it. Quite simply, you can't please everyone, so it's better to annoy a small number of diehard geeks than a larger number of less-technically-literate buyers. As for the "spirit of Android," I don't see any such thing. Android is what manufacturers make of it (like with Amazon). We're talking companies here; not bleeding hearts. For Samsung, Android just happens to be the non-Apple system best at hand. It's not like they're betting the farm on it, either; they're developing Tizen, too, which will be going into their Gear 2 line of smartwatches.
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Zaron, let me put it another way.
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Ok let's break this down since it sounds like once again you are making excuses.
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The sizes you hear advertised on TV and ads and so on are much like hard drive sizes and the "up to" internet speeds you also see; you're not expected to actually get every last bit that's advertised.
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I have gotten nearly ALL of the storage space I paid for on EVERY hard drive I have ever bought. There is a miniscule loss for the formatting overhead and partition table, and maybe a couple hundred megabytes for the Windows recovery partition if I CHOOSE to have one. This is quite minor compared to the 500GB - 3TB of space my drives have. On the GS4, I got nearly half, HALF of the usable storage I thought I was buying. There is a huge difference between minor overhead cost and HALF. Also, most of the time I get exactly the amount of bandwidth I pay for as well, for both my home internet and mobile data. It is rare I get any slowdown. So don't give me this nonsense about not expecting to get what is advertised.
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The only way you'll fix that is to change advertising laws; good luck trying to get something like that through a legislature.
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I don't need to change any laws to vote with my wallet, which is the only thing Samsung should be concerned with: how customers vote with their money.
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There's also the fact that those of us here do not represent the typical user of these phones. The average person wants to be able to just get their apps done and be done with it.
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Really? Because everyone I know who has an Android got one for the ability to customize/tinker with it. But even assuming there is a larger user base I haven't seen that doesn't care as much about customizing, what if said "average people" want to install many apps on their phone? Maybe they want to try out one of the many relatively large Android games on the market. Even an "average" user of a mobile device can do simple math. If they install a few games that are a couple GB each and then run out of space, and then add up the total space they used and compare it to how much their device should have, they would notice they got cheated real quick. All they have to do is go into the app manager in the settings and look at the amount of space used/free to see they don't have as much space as they thought.
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Quite simply, you can't please everyone, so it's better to annoy a small number of diehard geeks than a larger number of less-technically-literate buyers.
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I do agree that it is difficult to please everyone. However, who exactly are they pleasing by cutting the usable storage space in half? Answer: nobody but themselves, in order to exert control over their customers. That is all. I have not heard a single person say, "I am so happy with all of Samsung's built-in services, and I don't mind at all that I have only half the space listed on the box!"
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As for the "spirit of Android," I don't see any such thing.
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When I say spirit of Android, what I mean is the desire to make a useful device that puts the power of customization in the hands of the user. I mean a device that is the opposite of an Apple device. I mean a device that can be used independently of its creator company. I mean the ability to change the ROM, the launcher, the dialer, the SMS app, and allowing pretty much every other part of the device's software to be modular and customizable. I mean the ability to sideload apps, install other market apps, and not be tied down to one marketplace. I mean the ability to have a device that doesn't make you feel beholden to any entity. That is the spirit of Android. So when a company makes an Android device with features that deliberately move away from customization and towards proprietary dependence, aka dedicating almost half of the SGS4's internal storage for proprietary services, while advertising it as having the full 16GB, that pisses me off. If Android was a religion, it would be the equivalent of blasphemy. When I am in the market for a new device, a company gets my attention by having a more powerful device with more customization options. Also, nothing makes me switch manufacturers faster than when I feel like they are trying to lock me in to their economy.
Now, if you respond to me in the same manner as your last two posts, full of industry excuses and reasons why we shouldn't criticize our corporate overlords, then I will assume you are just a shill, and I will ignore you. I have better things to do than argue with a shill, so prove to me you aren't one.
You're right. It sucks. You should get the entire cell phone industry (valued at several hundred billion dollars) to change its' marketing systems.
Let me know how that works out for you.
The rest of us don't like it either, but we've moved on because we learned how to interpret the manufacturer's claims into what we can actually except to see. Now stop yelling at everyone on XDA who is just trying to explain it to you. We're not the ones who came up with these shadey marketing practices. And just because we understand the shadey marketing practices doesn't mean we support them.
You are preaching to the chior. We all agree with you.
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You're right. It sucks. You should get the entire cell phone industry (valued at several hundred billion dollars) to change its' marketing systems.
Let me know how that works out for you.
The rest of us don't like it either, but we've moved on because we learned how to interpret the manufacturer's claims into what we can actually except to see. Now stop yelling at everyone on XDA who is just trying to explain it to you. We're not the ones who came up with these shadey marketing practices. And just because we understand the shadey marketing practices doesn't mean we support them.
You are preaching to the chior. We all agree with you.
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You were helpful to me before, why do you sound so angry now? I wasn't yelling at "everyone". I was disagreeing with one person about the premise that no matter what we do, we should expect to get screwed in some way every time we buy a phone. I don't accept that. I don't even have a problem with people who do accept it, but I do have a problem when people explain it to me, and then sound like they are trying to get me to accept getting screwed. This thread started with me asking if there was a way to easily re-partition the internal memory of the SGS4, and when the answer was basically "no", the purpose of this thread was pretty much served. However, it went on to become a discussion about why things are the way they are, which inevitably led to the business practices of Samsung, at which point it started to feel like I was being told to just accept the situation, which got me riled up. Big corporations wouldn't be big without their customers, so I intend to stay a customer who cares. I won't give in to apathy or complacency, and I won't accept corporate control, even if I can't directly do anything about it. I appreciate the explanations, and I am sorry offended anyone.
Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
tomorio said:
Well i recently recieved an upgrade with my provider and I opted for the M9. This is because for the last 4 years ive had samsung and although I havent a bad word to say for them, I just fancied a change. So here I am.
Quite a difference in the way you can obtain certain things like unlocking, rooting etc. To be honest, though it was a bit worrying at first, I soon managed to get things done and It sort of makes you feel like you're more involved with your phone. Rather than just letting a .zip do all the work or a full firmware file through odin do the business.
Ive only had it 2 days and managed to root, unlock and s-off, Flashed a new firmware and rom and very happy with it. I have noticed despite the camera being a higher pixel count it isnt quite as sharp as the samsung camera, still good though. The front camera is definately better.
Having only had it 2 days though i cant really comment on performance etc etc. I need it longer but i'm relatively happy with how its going.
I do have a couple of concerns. 1 being the temperature it reaches when flashing etc.My samsung used to feel very warm but obviously its more noticable with the HTC due to it being all metal and I guess thats good as it sucks all the heat into the shell and away from the cpu's.
Anyway, this was just to say hi, and that I hope to continue to enjoy my htc experience, its definately come on a lot since my last HTC many years ago (Wildfire S).
Any tips / tricks / must haves that I should know about?
Thanks and HI! =)
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Hello. Welcome. I hope you enjoy your M9 experience.
Yeah, they heat up a little bit when flashing, but I think you're assumption on the metal body is correct.
I think the camera is not awesome in lower light situations. outside, it's fantastic. There's a thread on the camera in this forum you should check out, but some people who have used both the S6 and M9 say that the S6 is better in low light situations, but the M9 is better outside. You can probably get some tips in that that thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/general/pictures-m9-t3044267). A lot of people like shooting in manual mode with this phone and can produce some pretty nice results.
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Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
tomorio said:
Excellent thank you. I'll take a look and see if I can get any tips for improving my pictures. When I was in store chosing my next phone they did mention that it isn't the best in low light, probably due to the smaller aperture but I use take most of my pictures outside or in decent lighting anyway so I suppose it's not an issue as such. I'll definately have a look at that thread though and see if using manual mode will help me out more.
Thanks.
edit - I do have a quick question about firmwares. I have just flashed the 1.40.401.x but also noticed their are some 2.xx.xx something. Which are newer and why the huge difference? lol sorry to ask what is probably a very nooby question.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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I find it takes pretty decent still life photos in low light, but not great snapshots of people/pets (things that move). I think on auto, the camera isn't aggressive enough in bumping ISO, so it has to use too slow a shutter speed to completely stop movement.
I think 1.40 was kind of a temporary release to quickly address some issues in 1.32 (camera and CPU management mostly)...I don't think it was ever officially released in the US. But 1.40 has issue of it's own, mainly that charging the phone can be extremely slow at times. I don't know how HTC comes up with firmware numbering, but I would guess that part of the big number jump has to do with the fact that 1.xx firmware was for Android 5.0.2 while the 2.7 firmware runs on Android 5.1. I flashed the 2.7 firmware last night and the 1.40 base rom that I use works fine with it so far...I can't say with certainty that your ROM will work with it though. FYI, I'm on InsertCoin.
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Ah I see. I just noticed that most of the roms out at the moment recommend using the 1.40 firmware which is why I flashed that one. I'm currently using Viper which seems good so far, only had it a day. As I was new to everything I thought it best to stick with what is suggested as unlike with my Galaxy s4 the flashing of firmwares and roms seems quite specific. I had noticed it is quite a slow charge process, but I tend to charge overnight if I can and make the phone last the full day so it's not that much of a downer, unless i've had a lot of usage and need a "quick boost" >< then its not so great lol
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Many people have reported that rebooting temporarily fixes the slow charge issue.
MaximusHD is the only rom that uses the new firmware currently. I bet others will be updating soon. The Viper guys have been chatting about Viper 3.0 being released soon and I assume it will be 5.1 based.
Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
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Thats good. I'll keep checking any updates and see what happens.
I can't wait for a few more roms to be up and about. I'm used to the countless available for the S4 and forget that device is 2 years old now so there was plenty of time to get things going. I shall just have to be patient.
Thanks for all the help mate.
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Not a problem. Enjoy the device.
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
Vol4Ever said:
Not to hijack your thread tomorio, but how did you decide on which phone? I have the Galaxy S5 now, but I'm torn between HTC M8, M9, or LG G4. Pros and cons to all. My biggest thing is ease of root as I have a couple of frequent use apps that require it. Thanks in advance for any tips on how you decided!
~Vol
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Hijack away my friend.
I too was torn but between the S6, LG G4 and htc m9. I was leaning away from the S6 as I really fancied a change, however I think it will always have more options available to it (for custom roms etc) due to the larger fan base and it is much simpler to get to grips with for rooting etc.
the G4 my Partner already has and something about it when I used it I just didn't enjoy, and its nowhere near as pretty as the M9 lol. Try one out if you can just to see for yourself. Unfortunately I have no more experience of it than having a little play of her phone so unsure on the rooting processes etc but imagine it to be similar to the Samsung way.
The HTC M9 was a tough choice. Especially when I looked at how rooting etc is done (this is one of the first things i check with phones flash-a-holic you see lol). Anyway, once i'd read over all the advice given in this forum, the how to's etc and got a small amount of knowledge of the process of rooting using fastboot etc i pushed myself to make the choice. As far as user friendly goes, I think for simpler flashing the Sammy will always win again, as it's processes are far simpler (flashing via odin etc and all the files being ready to flash straight off the bat). However if you're keen for a change then I would recommend the M9. I've only had it a few days really but already i'm glad I did.
Just be sure to look through all the ways of rooting so that you get a better understanding of how its done. I think once the initial unlocking bootloader, rooting and flashing custom recovery is done it;s pretty simple after that. I've got to grips with it already.
One of the main benefits I found with the sammy phones was I was never worried about bricking because there were many different ways to get it back up and running. I dont know how that fares with the M9 but as long as you follow the instructions step by step and have backups available you should be ok.
Sorry for the wall of text, if you need anything else let me know.
Hope that helps.
- edit- also i may have touched on it in a previous post, but i think as far as customizing your phone goes and making it your own, I feel that HTC as a company are much more in tune with "our world" of people who like to change the stock features and put their own touch on things.
Walls of text don't bother me. I'd rather have too much information than not enough. It's going to be the M9 if we can work out the AT&T issues I mentioned in my other thread. I went to the store last night expecting a simple transaction like the bazillion other phone upgrades I've done over the years. Walked out steaming, to say the least. The worst part was the lady helping me majorly projected a "couldn't care less" attitude that is a major pet peeve of mine!