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I was thinking about installing this mod. I saw it running very smoothly on an HD2 dual-boot a friend of mine has.
Is there anyone running the latest version of this image? If so are there any hardware issues? Does the 4G still work? Does it make coffee now?
Thanks,
Nick
I don't think you'll have much luck here. I don't think anyone around here is running cm on their EVO's. Is he even working on a version for the EVO?
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I'll repost this for you in any one of the three threads with thousands of posts from cyanogen users.
...and I just threw up in my mouth.
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Never heard of it....
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fachadick said:
I don't think you'll have much luck here. I don't think anyone around here is running cm on their EVO's. Is he even working on a version for the EVO?
Sent from my blah blah blah blah
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LOL this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time (I hope you are just being sarcastic)
You are ruining it by doubting his sarcasm.
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LOL this is the funniest thing I've read in a long time (I hope you are just being sarcastic)
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Wait, there's a CyanogenMod for the EVO?!
Sprint blocked cyanogenmod from installing. It now un-roots your phone.
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sprint blocked cyanogenmod from installing. It now un-roots your phone.
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noooooooooooooooo!!!!! Oooooooooo!!!!
r.mauldin said:
Sprint blocked cyanogenmod from installing. It now un-roots your phone.
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It's okay, just do the 2.2 OTA and then root from there. I think it's pretty painless, I know there's a thread about it somewhere . . . can't find it right now.
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I'll repost this for you in any one of the three threads with thousands of posts from cyanogen users.
...and I just threw up in my mouth.
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Thanks Laydros,
My friend just told me that his HD2 just went to sleep and he had to reboot so it is surely not stable yet on the HD2. I would still be willing to try it on my EVO if anyone else has tried it first.
The UI looks pretty nice with a draggable menu at the bottom for multiple home row buttons.
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It's okay, just do the 2.2 OTA and then root from there. I think it's pretty painless, I know there's a thread about it somewhere . . . can't find it right now.
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yeah i know right? lol
i think what you have to do is flash a 2.2 rom, and while its installing, yank the battery. this will take you to the froyo debug screen and ask if you want to flash a cyanogen mod.
edit: ok that was a joke, I have to say that because I know there are people that will try it! sorry...
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Thanks Laydros,
My friend just told me that his HD2 just went to sleep and he had to reboot so it is surely not stable yet on the HD2. I would still be willing to try it on my EVO if anyone else has tried it first.
The UI looks pretty nice with a draggable menu at the bottom for multiple home row buttons.
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I like how on your 2nd post, after making what has to be in the top 5 mind boogling stupid questions I have seen on here, you act like you really did ask a valid question.
Don't tell me you are a nuclear scientist, I won't believe it. I would need credentials.
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yeah i know right? lol
i think what you have to do is flash a 2.2 rom, and while its installing, yank the battery. this will take you to the froyo debug screen and ask if you want to flash a cyanogen mod.
edit: ok that was a joke, I have to say that because I know there are people that will try it! sorry...
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I thought you were supposed to flush it around the toilet bowl for five minutes pull it out of the water and magic. Totally automated installation.
I think they were joking but its worth a shot
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I like how on your 2nd post, after making what has to be in the top 5 mind boogling stupid questions I have seen on here, you act like you really did ask a valid question.
Don't tell me you are a nuclear scientist, I won't believe it. I would need credentials.
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So explain to me how my question was stupid? I got a response from you apparently. Do you make a habit of flexing your intelligence on "stupid" postings?
This could very well make you a stupid person.
Read! Have you even looked at any posts at all here? Or did you just post your question and only focus on it? Seriously man, you are getting bashed here sooooo bad. Take ten seconds and look at other posts, either here in q and a or in the development section. Just trying to save you some pain.
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The question is somewhat puzzling.
I thought it was a simple question.
I got every tom **** and harry jumping in to say something. Yet no one can answer the question. Maybe I need to create my own forum just for dumb people like me. O wait a minute XDA beat me to it.
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Read! Have you even looked at any posts at all here? Or did you just post your question and only focus on it? Seriously man, you are getting bashed here sooooo bad. Take ten seconds and look at other posts, either here in q and a or in the development section. Just trying to save you some pain.
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Thanks, I spent five minutes searching. What did you find before you advised me to "READ!" and search?
Don't advise me to search unless you know for sure that I missed something. Your guessing there is a better thread and calling me stupid for not finding it.
Again, has anyone successfully gotten this mod on their EVO? If there is another thread talking about Cyanogen Mod 6 on EVO then direct me.
Dude, there's a thread in development dedicated to the RC with thousands of replies. I think we can all safely say that at least one other person has tried it. The water is safe. Hop in, but don't forget your life jacket. I'm sure you'll need it.
And before you complain that we're not helpful... no, the 4G doesn't work. Your mms may not work either.
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Ok so I will try to explain with all the details as I can and thanks for your help
I was rooted with S-off and everything was fine. Was testing some ROM recently when my phone yesterday morning started rebooting on its own. I tried to unplug the battery and go into recovery but it kept rebooting. When i say rebooting it means it went to white screen with htc logo then few seconds with black screen then back to white screen and so on. I tried everything with no avail. Tried RUU from sprint but that did nothing and same problem (only updated my hboot from .93 to 2.02) and when I tried another one the first RUU from sprint available it makes my phone vibrate 5 times and then green light flashing with black screen.
I cannot get into recovery at all. Cannot get ADB to connect and I get fastboot remote not allowed if i tried to erase recovery. Tried to flash recovery several times with no help using Hboot and PC36IMG.zip. Please help me if you can and thanks in advance.
Abdo
Double post.
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Nice rom bro. Can't wait to flash. Does it have 4g?
On a serious note, theres some stuff on this in q and a
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RileyGrant said:
Nice rom bro. Can't wait to flash. Does it have 4g?
On a serious note, theres some stuff on this in q and a
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Nice double post bro.
Also OP if you search you will find a solution.
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This tool might help you.
PS - MOD how are people posting on a dev board who have 3 posts?
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This tool might help you.
PS - MOD how are people posting on a dev board who have 3 posts?
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hes been a member since 2009 probally before they made the min rule
Give this guy a goddanned break! Chill the f out!
When something that seems end-all-be-all, you don't feel QA is the beat place, you want the best. Quit being so goddamn sanctimonious.
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Give this guy a goddanned break! Chill the f out!
When something that seems end-all-be-all, you don't feel QA is the beat place, you want the best. Quit being so goddamn sanctimonious.
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yea lets all break the rules ....
its clearly a question so needs to be in the Q&A not the dev section
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Give this guy a goddanned break! Chill the f out!
When something that seems end-all-be-all, you don't feel QA is the beat place, you want the best. Quit being so goddamn sanctimonious.
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Agreed. When it's an emergency the q and a isn't the best place. Everyone knows that everyone comes to development section first.
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yea lets all break the rules ....
its clearly a question so needs to be in the Q&A not the dev section
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I'm guessing you follow the speed limit and use your blinkers every time too.
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Agreed. When it's an emergency the q and a isn't the best place. Everyone knows that everyone comes to development section first.
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someone would have helped him by now if it was in the qa section, now he's either going to get some bad advice or everyone will just ignore his question
Most likely, this will get moved to Q&A anyhow, and btw, I come to the Dev section last and I DO follow the speed limit (+ about 1% over) and use my blinkers at every turn....
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Give this guy a goddanned break! Chill the f out!
When something that seems end-all-be-all, you don't feel QA is the beat place, you want the best. Quit being so goddamn sanctimonious.
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I learned a new word.... lol. But ur absolutely right. People seem more interested in chewing you out than offering a helping hand. Even if the thread is in the wrong place.
So, I flashed Caulks new EK02 Rom, and, when I went to restart, phone is stuck on boot screen; Wiped everything as normal before flashing, but stuck on the yellow triangle screen.
I tried all the normal stuff to get into recovery, but phone won't go past the initial boot screen.
I have a mac computer, and thats all there are in the house, so I can't use Odin..
Can someone help me get the phone back to a state where it starts up?
Thanks so much for your help!
Didn't I just answer this question lol...
2 threads aren't necessary in these forums, we see your question.
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SocialReject said:
Didn't I just answer this question lol...
2 threads aren't necessary in these forums, we see your question.
Sent from the future.
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True but its easy to go into panic mode when your expensive toy wont do a damn thing. I have been there before. A few minutes waiting for answers seems like an eternity.
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lol, understood.
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Didn't I just answer this question lol...
2 threads aren't necessary in these forums, we see your question.
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First of all, this is the ONLY thread I made for this question; I made a post in the thread where the rom was located to make the dev aware of the issue
I'll be watching you closely, for when you have a serious issue and ask for help, to make sure you don't post it more than once..
And, BTW, I used Heimdall on my own, without your suggestion; I've been flashing phones for longer than you've probably been on this earth...
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True but its easy to go into panic mode when your expensive toy wont do a damn thing. I have been there before. A few minutes waiting for answers seems like an eternity.
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Thanks for your kind words, John; you show the kind of class that used to be everywhere on this forum!
where are you seeing a new rom from CAulk?
All original Posts I see in DEV the only Caulk one are for the 1.5a ROM,
thanks,
RR
The "Stock EK02" ROM.
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where are you seeing a new rom from CAulk?
All original Posts I see in DEV the only Caulk one are for the 1.5a ROM,
thanks,
RR
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its in here bro..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19862447&posted=1#post19862447
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First of all, this is the ONLY thread I made for this question; I made a post in the thread where the rom was located to make the dev aware of the issue
I'll be watching you closely, for when you have a serious issue and ask for help, to make sure you don't post it more than once..
And, BTW, I used Heimdall on my own, without your suggestion; I've been flashing phones for longer than you've probably been on this earth...
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Bro, relax smh.... reread what I said and stop taking everything to heart... if I misread a thread name, tell me that. No need to brew up a storm.. anyway, hope you find a solution.
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Actually if you are on XDA app or Tapatalk, lately its been occasionally doubling up on random threads. I have seen it happen a several times lately. It will show the same exact thread, same amount of posts, but views are different. That may have happened here. Thanks for the kind words wase.
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These 2 threads aren't asking the same question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370311
I understand you were in an tight spot but no need to lash out at me for simply pointing out the obvious and trying to help you out...
That is all.....
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These 2 threads aren't asking the same question?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370311
I understand you were in an tight spot but no need to lash out at me for simply pointing out the obvious and trying to help you out...
That is all.....
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Yup, looks like it got doubled up. I think that's what happened anyway
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Oh well, not that big of a deal.
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Oh well, not that big of a deal.
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Its really not. Just trying to keep the peace. Since the new modems its been so civil around here...its actually nice. You've been thanked too Social
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Its really not. Just trying to keep the peace. Since the new modems its been so civil around here...its actually nice. You've been thanked too Social
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lol, my thoughts exactly. No need to plague the forum with bad blood. I appreciate that, man.
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sorry for flying off the handle; lets just forget it, and have fun again..
If anyone can help that would be awesome!
I've installed LGNPST from the IRC (autoinstall) All drivers are up to date as well.
My problem is my phone reboots at 67% (I know it's supposed to hang at 85%) and wont go past the sprint boot image, screen is "on" but black with lit up touch buttons that vibrate every so often... but stays at that.
Thanks in advance for any help
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So saw the lock screen flash very quickly and status bar pop up momentarily, gives me hope but still can't get it to flash properly...
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Problem solved, thanks Shellnut2!
Wrong thread.
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Wrong thread.
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Hm, how so? Figured since the unfinished tutorial is in this section that it belongs here...
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If anyone can help that would be awesome!
I've installed LGNPST from the IRC (autoinstall) All drivers are up to date as well.
My problem is my phone reboots at 67% (I know it's supposed to hang at 85%) and wont go past the sprint boot image, screen is "on" but black with lit up touch buttons that vibrate every so often... but stays at that.
Thanks in advance for any help
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So saw the lock screen flash very quickly and status bar pop up momentarily, gives me hope but still can't get it to flash properly...
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Problem solved, thanks Shellnut2!
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Can you please share for future reference? I am interested to know what steps you took. Thank you!
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Hm, how so? Figured since the unfinished tutorial is in this section that it belongs here...
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ALL questions even those involving development or , help (which most are) belong in the Q and A section. Development is for a developer to post something or someone who discovered something that can be useful to development to post
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Hm, how so? Figured since the unfinished tutorial is in this section that it belongs here...
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ALL questions even those involving development or , help (which most are) belong in the Q and A section. Development is for a developer to post something or someone who discovered something that can be useful to development to post
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Yeah what he said^^^
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Can you please share for future reference? I am interested to know what steps you took. Thank you!
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So what happened was after an initial LGNPST where it stripped root from my phone, but left all user data and apps on it, i attempted to re-root to try to remove unwanted apps
I used the AIO tool, and for some reason it didn't push the root files correctly, and really muddled up the firmware.
So after about 15 failed attempts to reflash stock, Shellnut2 on IRC thought it could be a problem with cashes, so he had me walk through Binarys root method, something went right with that cause the second it finished pushing SU my phone rebooted about 3x and was in working order again.
(And im fairly certain that my problem with LGNPST was a sub par usb cable)
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Yeah what he said^^^
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Okay sorry, anyway could a mod (if they even exist on this forum) move this to Q&A that would be appreciated.
yes, wrong forum, and I saw you working on it last night. I might post a big guide on everything you can do so far, including this. I will probably put in under general, but it might be enough to be in development
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Okay sorry, anyway could a mod (if they even exist on this forum) move this to Q&A that would be appreciated.
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None that u know of, only a moderator can move it.
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None that u know of, only a moderator can move it.
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Clearly you didn't get the poke at how inactive they are on the OG section of xda, and yes, i know only a mod can move it. thats why i asked a "Mod" to move it......
Makes me wonder is our moderator mia? Ive posted that so many unnecessary threads in all.the wrong places. I know there are very few but our LGOG threads gettin out of hand oh well.
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Clearly you didn't get the poke at how inactive they are on the OG section of xda, and yes, i know only a mod can move it. thats why i asked a "Mod" to move it......
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OG means original.I.E. the OG droid or the OG Evo. The fastest phone in the U.S is the LGOG. ya know like MoPho for Moto Photon. GNeX for Galaxy Nexus. Ya ya im a pain.hehe and Interlerloper,th3bill,Jokersax and more are on there way. And the non dev section of the LGOG is not non active there is a ton of crap in the other section all answered here were people don't even look i guess. Moderator come make the pain go awaaaaaaaay.lol
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Clearly you didn't get the poke at how inactive they are on the OG section of xda, and yes, i know only a mod can move it. thats why i asked a "Mod" to move it......
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OG means original.I.E. the OG droid or the OG Evo. The fastest phone in the U.S is the LGOG. ya know like MoPho for Moto Photon. GNeX for Galaxy Nexus. Ya ya im a pain.hehe and Interlerloper,th3bill,Jokersax and more are on there way. And the non dev section of the LGOG is not non active there is a ton of crap in the other section all answered here were people don't even look i guess. Moderator come make the pain go awaaaaaaaay.lol
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guess we'll just have to keep order until it gets more active and moderators start to show up.
The new moderator changes aren't working obviously.
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guess we'll just have to keep order until it gets more active and moderators start to show up.
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Ya. I was told by one there are only around 60. Thats crazy fir millions of subscribers
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I've noticed other forums w/ dedicated threads for all the random questions that people can come up with and rather than more new threads we can use this one thread and hopefully get the help we need. No worries about flaming in this thread as all questions/suggestions/answers are welcome here w/ one exception: rooting. There are plenty of threads on rooting and by using the Search function you can find your answer, I'm sure.
X0dus said:
I've noticed other forums w/ dedicated threads for all the random questions that people can come up with and rather than more new threads we can use this one thread and hopefully get the help we need. No worries about flaming in this thread as all questions/suggestions/answers are welcome here w/ one exception: rooting. There are plenty of threads on rooting and by using the Search function you can find your answer, I'm sure.
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What is this magical thing you called the "Search function?" I don't see that button on my keyboard.
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What is this magical thing you called the "Search function?" I don't see that button on my keyboard.
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Alt+F4
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X0dus said:
I've noticed other forums w/ dedicated threads for all the random questions that people can come up with and rather than more new threads we can use this one thread and hopefully get the help we need. No worries about flaming in this thread as all questions/suggestions/answers are welcome here
(w/ one exception: rooting. There are plenty of threads on rooting and by using the Search function you can find your answer, I'm sure.
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This made me laugh out loud, literally.
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Hutch89 said:
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This made me laugh out loud, literally.
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b/c..i created an off topic thread or the rooting part?
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b/c..i created an off topic thread or the rooting part?
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How's this for off-topic?
What would be some reasons I get segmentation faults, malformed archive errors, etc when it gets to libwebcore.so, yet I can "make -j8 libwebcore" with a clean output dir and it builds fine.
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b/c..i created an off topic thread or the rooting part?
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The rooting part
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So lets see if you can answer this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefG-z65iPI
Jitter issue I'm having, can't seem to get rid of it. Any solutions? This happens all the time when you rest your finger on the screen. Vertical and horizontal. Its as if the screen can't decide where my finger is resting so it moves in a small pixel range. At least that's what I think. I just want a fix. Running utacka pa and lightning zap. Had this issue throughout the last year. Can't fing stand it.
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So lets see if you can answer this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefG-z65iPI
Jitter issue I'm having, can't seem to get rid of it. Any solutions? This happens all the time when you rest your finger on the screen. Vertical and horizontal. Its as if the screen can't decide where my finger is resting so it moves in a small pixel range. At least that's what I think. I just want a fix. Running utacka pa and lightning zap. Had this issue throughout the last year. Can't fing stand it.
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Holy crap yours is pretty bad. I had that happen a few weeks back; only did it when I was charging though. I couldn't even long-press on the home screen to change a wallpaper, it would just start jitter back and forth just enough for it to try to switch pages, but not enough to where it would actually change them. It was so bad that I couldn't even text if it was plugged in. Only thing I could think of at the time was that it was the fact that my digitizer was cracked; but because it went away before I could change the glass, I decided that wasn't it. As far as fixing it... mine did it for about a week and then just randomly quit doing it.
Ya, I can't find anyway to fix this. It has happened as long as I can remember, but not when I first got the phone. I feel like it's something software related, because hardware wise the phone has never had an issue, as far as I can tell/know.
If anyone can help PLEASE!!! do so.
Eternal gratitude is your prize =)
What CM are you on ?
Was running CM10, it happens, the daily builds. Running paranoidandroid Utacka build, still happens. I run Miui port, still happens. No idea =(
Could this be a hardware issue? It's past a year since manufacturer warranty, so i guess im screwed.
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So lets see if you can answer this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UefG-z65iPI
Jitter issue I'm having, can't seem to get rid of it. Any solutions? This happens all the time when you rest your finger on the screen. Vertical and horizontal. Its as if the screen can't decide where my finger is resting so it moves in a small pixel range. At least that's what I think. I just want a fix. Running utacka pa and lightning zap. Had this issue throughout the last year. Can't fing stand it.
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I have the same problem as you, I don't know when exactly started doing this :/
Have you tried flashing a stock rom or unbricking. I seem to remember having this issue way back and fixing it. I'm also thinking using lg software updater could have fixed it...its been a really long time I just can't remember
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Is the XDA app worth a buck ?
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notzippy said:
Is the XDA app worth a buck ?
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I honestly don't do anything extra that I couldn't do with the free version, but meh. Why not support XDA, ya know? It's just a double-cheeseburger from McDonalds...
Haven't had mcd's for over 10 years... but I'll support xda
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Has anyone else received a letter from AT&T regarding tethering while not on a tethering plan? I fired it up once or twice last month for like 10 minutes; received a notification in the mail yesterday telling me that unless I contacted customer service they would automatically change my plan to a 5GB/month tethering plan for like $50. I received a "good stern talking to" and was sent on my way with no plan changes, but if I do it again, they will automatically change it and my unlimited data plan will be gone for good.
I do believe I'll be pushing the "unlimited" part as far as I can again. Time to fire Netflix back up and just let it play for no reason at all. Anyone have any other heavily data-intensive apps to recommend?
I'm looking for a good app to hide apps I been looking for a while now can't find anything I'm running cw 10.01 I believe still new to the rooting process
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Anyone happen to have a mirror for Full Throttle 8.4 they can share?