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battery drain and Snap with CM6?

CM6 is definitely great, I think without question it is a vast improvement.
The only issue I have is my battery life is ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE. Could be the worst battery life I've had with any phone. But maybe that's just the EVO, with it's big screen and speedy processor. I underclock to 384 mhz sometimes but then the thing slows down and even freezes. I have 3 different batteries and they all perform about the same (not good.) Before I had a partial wake issue but that's gone, and battery life still stinks. I've also tried calibrating but nothing really seems to make it better.
I hear the snap thing is good for battery life but I everytime I open that thread I get a headache. I love this phone and am obsessed wtih it but that thread is a bit much even for me!
Can anyone give me a quick and dirty explaination of what snap is / how to use snap? Which kernel to flash? Some day I hope to digest that mammoth of a thread, but right now I'm too busy reading texts for college and Just want better battery life.
Thanks!

Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.

nyc_zx10 said:
Download app System Panel. Will help show you what is eating up your battery/resources.
Then, download app Juice Defender. Worth it to get the paid version. Its like 3 bucks IIRC. This will help you get more battery life out of your phone.
-Sent from my Evo.
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Yeah, I tried System Panel but the things eating my battery were mostly system things, like Browser. I guess I could give it another go.
Why are Juice Defender reviews so bad? I've considered it before also, maybe will try playing with it again

snap 8.2 is the current release. you can try any of the kernels, but i would avoid the 7.0/7.1 SD Card implementations since that technology has been put on the back burner for a bit.
Snap allows you to you Overclock and Undervolt (aka: UV).
Overclocking of course is for speed and Undervolting may save battery.
all EVOs are not created equal. some like undervolting some do not. so snap is available in multiple flavors. each with a different UV floor. the lower the floor the more potential battery saving..but also the more chance for a random reboot or wifi/gps acting funny. remember UV retards the amount of power so things can act goofy. the different UV floors are 800mv - 925mv. for example...i use the 8.2_900 because it works well with my EVO. the 8.2_800 booted great but after a while started rebooting itself. 8.2_850 just hung at bootup. the 8.1 kernels didn't work for me at all. 7.3b1 was great.
HAVs is adaptive..so don't get stressed if your device fails to boot properly the first time. wipe the cache/dalvik and try again.
so download a few of the 8.2 kernels.
make your nandroid
begin trial and error (I'd suggest starting at 800, 850 then 900 to get a feel)
don't be afraid to wipe the Cache and Dalvik multiple times.
don't worry about the whole thread. just grab the last few pages and read the OP. then feel free to ask.
i also recommend setCPU. you can find some threads for SetCPU configurations to help. BUT....make sure SetCPU is disabled when flashing the new kernel. once you get a working kernel you can enable SetCPU...but during testing phase it will give you gray hair.
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Just a few quick thoughts on voltages/freqs after seeing a handful of discussion in the thread:
1) Every 8.2 kernel has voltages lower than stock. The default stock voltage @ 245 is something around 1050.
2) No real effort is made to UV at the top end. It's a little lower, but the objective at the highest CPU frequency is not to UV. Most of the benefit of UV comes at the low end of the scale when your phone is idle (most of the time). Less voltage = less draw.
3) nHAVS scales voltage at each step. There is a min.max voltage at every cpu frequency. This range is fairly small--50-75mv, but it enables HAVS to decide based on feedback from the CPU which one to apply. And the max at each step is lower than stock. So no matter how you slice it, even if you're running 925, you are undervolted. This becomes a question of how undervolted.
4) OC is not about undervolting, it's about overclocking. The differences is voltage vs. frequency. OC means we're increasing the CPU frequency beyond stock which is 998mhz in the case of Evo. If you move your SetCPU slider beyond 998mhz, you're overclocking.
The objective of overclocking is speed. The objective of undervolting is battery savings. Snap gives you both. We overclock when we increase the fequency with SetCPU. We undervolt automatically via nHAVS. As of this writing, UV is handled in the kernel, it happens most at the bottom end of the frequency scale.
I hope this helps clear up some of the questions. Great conversation by the way.
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GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol

Thank you Dragin!!!
That helps a lot! So once you have Snap setup at what you feel is "good" does your phone seem to perform as well as before you had it undervolted? Man, sounds like a pretty involved process - maybe I better wait until I can really sit down and play with it.

goodelyfe said:
GREAT EXPLANATION Dragin!!!
and also, to the OP.... dont forget, if you do go with setcpu, do NOT 'set on boot' mmmmkay??? lol
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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Do you mean for the first flash? Or every time you boot your phone?
If not set on boot, it means you have to start SetCPU manually after each boot. Doesn't seem right
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I think he's talking about when ur figuring out the best setup

Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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I had the same issue, left to stock with kingx.
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Regarding Juice:
I didn't really read too much into the reviews for this particular app. It works. I was having battery issues. Downloaded Juice, got the settings somewhat right to my liking and so far no complaints. Unplugged my phone from charger this morning at roughly 9am, been using it moderately all day, and as of right now at 12:50am, I am at 29%.
Bad reviews or not, I can attest to it working and making a difference in battery life.
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Do you know what in particular Juice is doing to give you better battery life? like what does Turn off certain things based on conditions or?
That is some good battery life.

Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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Correct.
You can set conditions to do certain things. Such as disable data/3g/wifi while screen is off. Also if you need data synced you can set a condition to enable data wifi or 3g for X minutes every X minutes/hours.
I am not affiliated with the dev in anyway but it def made a difference and was worth the price for it.
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Meh... see I really don't want to do those things. I can turn off data sync myself and just have gmail forward me a text message when I have an email. I just was hoping there was a way to get decent battery life without going back to the days of Winmo
I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)

berardi said:
I absolutely adore CM6, but I'm really starting to think that it is not battery friendly. Last night my battery went from full to 25% in 8 hours. I had nothing running, my partial wake was fine, and Android system took up 60%+. I really don't feel like doing another wipe, but it looks like I may have to. Just want it to work right at this point.
Again, I truly love CM6, the open source concept, the transparency, the whole clean idea of it, but there is something seriously wrong with the battery life (at least in every install I have tried)
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i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.

DraginMagik said:
i agree with you. but i also feel that CM6 is on par with the Official HTC/Sprint ROM when it comes to battery life expectancy. however, after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
as for finding your EVOs kernel made in heaven...
it's not too bad so long as you have some time. but if you are time strapped, need your phone in 20min and don't read the OP... you will curse and swear. expect to get hung up at the HTC splashscreen a few times and it will bootloop on you before your done. <I'd suggest just leaving your battery cover off until you are done muckn about for that session>
klick may be easier for the some end users because of fewer selections. I've never used his kernels. if i try them, i'll prolly wait till he's put out a few AOSP versions...to work out any bugs.
oh yeah...one odd thing, it seems that sometimes folks flash a incompatible kernel it gets 'stuck'. after that 'bad flash' they are unable to flash any kernel until after they have nandroided back and rebooted...then they can flash again. i had this happen twice....i was unable to get a known good kernel to load until after i restored from backup. /shrug
oh....try this. download the snap7.5_925 kernel. if it runs smooth. call it a day and you should be pretty happy with that until the new versions come out. yeah, if you got one of the _800 kernels running you may pull an extra 30-45min of time...but that requires a level of geekdom that not everyone has.
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Thanks man, appreciate the breakdown.
You have inspired me, I'm going to bite the bullet and try this snap7.5_925 kernel. I'll report back my luck
I do enjoy this stuff, really - just right now it would be irresponsible for me to spend too much time on it. School comes first right now.

DraginMagik said:
... after i put on the snap kernel and copied someones setcpu config....i got 26+hrs of 'use it as i wish' time + still had about an hour of in-pocket time left. i was hooked. i bet you an imaginary dollar the same will happen for you.
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Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.

loupy said:
Wow, I'd love to have that kind of time with CM6, right now I drain at about 10% an hour with no usage at all; where can I find that setcpu config? I really like CM6 but battery life is killing me right now.
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Yeah dragin, don't hog those sweet settings! I'm enjoying Snap 7.6 and it seems to be helping out my battery life a bit, but I'd love to see your SetCPU details.

I've found that the issue for me is bluetooth. If I have it on constantly my battery will drain 10-15% per hour. With bluetooth off it's only draining 1%-2% per hour.
Seems like the bluetooth needs work on CM6 in order to have the efficiency that the other ROMs i've tried (Fresh and EViO) have. Nonetheless, I'm sticking with CM6 and just use the bluetooth when necessary.

I have the same issue with bluetooth on CM 6.0.0. I am running the stock kernel that comes with cyanogenmod, so this is definitely not a snap issue. There was a bug submitted about a month ago:
code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/detail?id=2136
I *really* hope this can get fixed for the 6.1 release, but it is currently listed with a low priority. I really love CM6, but basically making bluetooth unusable for more than a few hours really makes me struggle with the using this rom.

Why not the 7.6 with turbo...just wonderin

Overclocking question, stability?

Okay, so my question is basically how stable is overclocking your g2? I typically keep it at 800 when I use my phone normally, than 1.5ghz for games. I wante d to keep my g2 at 1.5ghz forever.. is that bad?
My battery obviously increases in temp..

I just use 1GH. It's enough for all game now. and didn't see any bad to battery or phone

I've had my DZ for about three weeks now and all this time I've had it consistently overclocked to 1843MHz. At that high of a speed, I had to let the phone cool down after 20 minutes of use.
Just today I flashed pershoot's 1516MHz kernel and noticed no heat issues after ~45 minutes of consistent use (temps < 40C).

I have had my g2 for.... However long they been out. I have always been overclock to at least 1.5 with zero heat issues. I ran 1.8 and even 1.9 for a good long time as well. Those speeds have heat issues ones that required a battery pull a few times because it started heating up faster then i could shut down the phone. If your going to OC at those speeds makes sure you set temp profiles with alarms.
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ARM processors, like our snapdragons, are a lot more forgiving on the overclocking front than what you might find in your desktop, for instance.
I still treat overclocking on my phone like I do my computers, though... setcpu has a stress test built in that you can use if you're curious how "stable" your overclock is. but in my experience, I've found that you can get away with just playing around with it and using the phone normally and seeing how it reacts to different clockspeeds.
right now, I run it at 1.1ghz (24/7). I have run it at 1.5ghz (24/7) in the past for PSX/N64 emulators, but I've found with my new setup (pretty light; no widgets, very few things going on in the background, stripped as many unnecessary apps as possible, and not using any animations or fancy bits) that 1.1ghz is more than enough to be able to play the games I play on any emulator smoothly.
you should be fine at any speed that is currently available in the overclocking kernels we have with the exception of flippy's 1.9ghz kernel, which does require some monitoring to keep things cool and stable. but it still does vary from phone to phone. if you're running at 1.5ghz and the phone isn't doing anything wonky, then you shouldn't worry about it. if you're running it at 1.5ghz and you're experiencing stability issues, random force closes that aren't fixable through conventional methods, or heat issues, you should probably back off a bit.
some people have problems at 1.2ghz, some people are running at 1.9ghz all the time and never have problems... just find what works best for normal usage with your device and go with it.. it's not like we keep these things for more than a couple of years anyway, and the processor will be capable of handling the [stable] overclock for that period of time.

im always at 1.2ghz. 768 as min, interactive gov (when i use CM7) and battery has been fine, havent noticed any major issues. hard to tell if it was the rom bugs or OC being the issue but from what i read all my issues others have at various speeds so im guessing it was rom related

i think it depends on the rom.
when i use the Pyromod rom i dont need overclock but for other roms like sense roms those I require OC. I always keep it at 1400 when needed.

So is it just my epic?

So no matter what rom i load on my phone i get the same thing.... it will not wake up and i have to remove the battery. Now on stock its fine! but any rom.. and yes i have tried them.. numerous times.. Right now i have AOSP genocide 2 and its working the best. I can go 4 or 5 hours before i need to do a battery pull (sometimes). This morning i have had to do i battery pull twice but now it seems to be fine.
Now its not over clocking that is doing it. I have been all through that. My phone blazes when at 1.3ghz but will not turn back on ever with out a battery pull. right now there is no overclocking and voltage control is denied root. This seems to be working the best.
I really want something besides the stock rom. mainly because my phone is snappier and the battery life is wayyyyyyy better. So is it just my phone? Should i bring it into sprint and get a new epic?

NissanNick said:
So no matter what rom i load on my phone i get the same thing.... it will not wake up and i have to remove the battery. Now on stock its fine! but any rom.. and yes i have tried them.. numerous times.. Right now i have AOSP genocide 2 and its working the best. I can go 4 or 5 hours before i need to do a battery pull (sometimes). This morning i have had to do i battery pull twice but now it seems to be fine.
Now its not over clocking that is doing it. I have been all through that. My phone blazes when at 1.3ghz but will not turn back on ever with out a battery pull. right now there is no overclocking and voltage control is denied root. This seems to be working the best.
I really want something besides the stock rom. mainly because my phone is snappier and the battery life is wayyyyyyy better. So is it just my phone? Should i bring it into sprint and get a new epic?
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Are these freezes ONLY happening when running o/c? If so, then your hardware might not like o/c speeds. Please clarify that it is not an o/c issue due to the information you provided above.
If you're stable and having no locking issues on stock, then flash ROMS/kernels and of the bat start boosting to o/c speeds then seeing instability, how/why are you ruling out it's not a o/c or hardware limitation?
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I really want something besides the stock rom. mainly because my phone is snappier and the battery life is wayyyyyyy better. So is it just my phone? Should i bring it into sprint and get a new epic?
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I don't think sprint will swap your phone out just because you can't manage stable o/c speeds on your phone. LOL

Sounds like you need to do the classic Wipe 3X before flashing.

Sorry guys i should have been more clear. I am not a noob i always wipe 3x. It is not a O/C issue. I have gone through all the clocking and my phone just does not like it.. I can live with that. What i am saying is even when not O/C and denying all access from anything that could effect my processor the ROM's Still don't work right. They freeze even with NO O/C at all! Every one of them. So i am thinking i just got the bad end of the silicon?
Also i relies Sprint will not just exchange my phone.. But im sure i could come up with something lol.
Well i really like my epic but i am thinking of switching to the photon if i cant get the ROMS to work right. I really wanted to wait until next year to upgrade.

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Sorry guys i should have been more clear. I am not a noob i always wipe 3x. It is not a O/C issue. I have gone through all the clocking and my phone just does not like it.. I can live with that. What i am saying is even when not O/C and denying all access from anything that could effect my processor the ROM's Still don't work right. They freeze even with NO O/C at all! Every one of them. So i am thinking i just got the bad end of the silicon?
Also i relies Sprint will not just exchange my phone.. But im sure i could come up with something lol.
Well i really like my epic but i am thinking of switching to the photon if i cant get the ROMS to work right. I really wanted to wait until next year to upgrade.
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It's not the overclocking that causes your phone to go into sleep of death, it is the low end. 100 Mhz causes sleep of death on a lot of phones on a custom ROM. Set your minimum frequency to 200 Mhz and you will be fine. Don't change any of the stoick voltages.

Try using stock speeds (400-1000). Then work your way incrementally in both directions to see which frequency(ies) cause your issues. Each phone is unique, so find the sweet spot.
I get the black screen of death about twice a month running twilight 1.1.1. My phone runs 200-1000 with no undervolting and set on conservative. I'm just too lazy to bother playing with settings since I'm holding out for SRF 1.3 to release.

[Q] Decks or Cm7's best kernel (SVZ vs Tiamat vs Godmode)

Hi guys, i've been looking into many threads and reading a lot of posts and asking a lot of questions. however i know that their is not for sure answer to this but i would like to see what you guys believe to be your best kernel for battery and performance. i have seen people say it is Godmode (v9), Tiamat v4.1.0, Tiamat v3.3.7, and Savaged-zen v2.2.1. (ALL of these ARE with SBC-OFF). i just want to know what is you best kernel at the moment for your evo with decks or cm7.
Side Question: what is the difference between the governors: (Interactive, InteractiveX, Smartass, SmartassV2, Savaged-zen, and Lag Free)?
- Thank You

I like Tiamat 4.1.0, but I can't help you for your side question. I'm still new to development and rooting

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I like Tiamat 4.1.0, but I can't help you for your side question. I'm still new to development and rooting
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i know you said your new but im just wondering have you tried any other kernels?
and what is your battery life with Tiamat 4.1.0

I've used damn near every kernel available for CM7. And by far the BEST kernel for battery life is Savaged Zen. I'm on a stock battery and it just seems to last forever. Add to that the fact that the battery lasts all day without sacrificing performance at all. Every phone is different and you may or may not see the same results. This is just what has worked for my phone. Honestly, your best bet is to get flash happy with various kernels until you find one that gives you the performance and battery life that you're looking for. By the way, I use SVZ Manager with my kernel so that I can toggle SBC on and off as I please. It's a nice apk that gives you some flexibility.
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i know you said your new but im just wondering have you tried any other kernels?
and what is your battery life with Tiamat 4.1.0
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I've tried Tiamat 4.0.8 and a Savaged Zen kernel (can't remember which version). They both gave me about 12 hours of battery life on an average day(for me). But an average day for me is going to school, so I'm not on my phone as much. I haven't gotten to really test the battery life because I haven't looked at it on the weekend when I'm not at school. But like Concordium said, every phone is different! Try them all!

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Concordium said:
I've used damn near every kernel available for CM7. And by far the BEST kernel for battery life is Savaged Zen. I'm on a stock battery and it just seems to last forever. Add to that the fact that the battery lasts all day without sacrificing performance at all. Every phone is different and you may or may not see the same results. This is just what has worked for my phone. Honestly, your best bet is to get flash happy with various kernels until you find one that gives you the performance and battery life that you're looking for. By the way, I use SVZ Manager with my kernel so that I can toggle SBC on and off as I please. It's a nice apk that gives you some flexibility.
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at the moment i am using the latest svz kernel with the svz manager as well. i have been flashing many kernels and for a while i was happy when i used the godmode kernel my phone lasted me 1 day and 6 hours, however he is no longer updating his kernels =( i'm hoping to find another kernel such as that one that will give me around the same results ^_^

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at the moment i am using the latest svz kernel with the svz manager as well. i have been flashing many kernels and for a while i was happy when i used the godmode kernel my phone lasted me 1 day and 6 hours, however he is no longer updating his kernels =( i'm hoping to find another kernel such as that one that will give me around the same results ^_^
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I liked Godmode. But it didn't seem to give me as good battery life as savaged zen has given me. Each phone is different though.

Concordium said:
I liked Godmode. But it didn't seem to give me as good battery life as savaged zen has given me. Each phone is different though.
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well im testing this one out at the moment and it has given me so far 17 hours and 20 mins, still at 31% battery, im just not sure if it'll do better than godmode did, at the moment im running it on the smartass kernel and i ran godmode on interactive so maybe that is the prob... however another issue is i've heard that svz is no longer updating as well... do u know if this is true? and one random thing that only a few people have told me is that they run on performance and overclock their phone and get the best battery from it, is that possible or a lie?
Edit: it lasted 20 hours and 53 mins, so since it didn't do as good as GodMode did then im gonna try the tiamat 4.1.0 now cause it has first place in the poll atm.

Green_Arrow said:
well im testing this one out at the moment and it has given me so far 17 hours and 20 mins, still at 31% battery, im just not sure if it'll do better than godmode did, at the moment im running it on the smartass kernel and i ran godmode on interactive so maybe that is the prob... however another issue is i've heard that svz is no longer updating as well... do u know if this is true? and one random thing that only a few people have told me is that they run on performance and overclock their phone and get the best battery from it, is that possible or a lie?
Edit: it lasted 20 hours and 53 mins, so since it didn't do as good as GodMode did then im gonna try the tiamat 4.1.0 now cause it has first place in the poll atm.
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Its true that its not being updated anymore. It sucks but I plan to ride it out as long as the kernel functions properly with CM. Once it starts screwing up then I'll switch.
Those who say they get the best battery life by overclocking and putting their phone on performance are full of crap. Performance governor is basically the polar opposite of Powersave. Performance keeps your cpu constantly running at a high frequency. Logic states that overclocking to 1.13 ghz and perpetually running at that frequency requires more power than running at 245 mhz. The more power required the less time your battery will stay alive. Powersave gives you best battery life but gives you crap performance. Interactive, Smartass, and Ondemand give you a balance of performance and battery life. Performance gives you the best performance but crap battery life.
By the way, do you really need a phone that can stay off the charger for more than 21 hours? :-x

Concordium said:
Its true that its not being updated anymore. It sucks but I plan to ride it out as long as the kernel functions properly with CM. Once it starts screwing up then I'll switch.
Those who say they get the best battery life by overclocking and putting their phone on performance are full of crap. Performance governor is basically the polar opposite of Powersave. Performance keeps your cpu constantly running at a high frequency. Logic states that overclocking to 1.13 ghz and perpetually running at that frequency requires more power than running at 245 mhz. The more power required the less time your battery will stay alive. Powersave gives you best battery life but gives you crap performance. Interactive, Smartass, and Ondemand give you a balance of performance and battery life. Performance gives you the best performance but crap battery life.
By the way, do you really need a phone that can stay off the charger for more than 21 hours? :-x
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no i do not but! 3 days of the week im at school doing nothing for 8-10 hours so... i think if my phone can run longer than a day w/o charging then it mean i can play games on my phone while waiting and by the end of the day i'll still have battery. and does it make sense for someone to get better battery life on interactive than on smartass?

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no i do not but! 3 days of the week im at school doing nothing for 8-10 hours so... i think if my phone can run longer than a day w/o charging then it mean i can play games on my phone while waiting and by the end of the day i'll still have battery. and does it make sense for someone to get better battery life on interactive than on smartass?
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Well Smartass, as I've heard it described, is sort of like Interactive 2.0. It's basically the interactive governor but better. Unfortunately, I do not know enough of the exact specifics of the governors to tell you which SHOULD be getting better battery. I would just run each of those governors and see which one works better for you.
And I thought your phone already lasted 21 hours with a decent amount of usage. You need to test the governors/kernels in the exact situation you are going to be using the phone. Interactive, Ondemand, and Smartass would all manage the phone pretty much the same if you just leave it alone and let it sit till the battery drains. but they each manage the power allocation supplied to the cpu very differently during actual use. One ramps up the voltage quickly while one scales it up more gradually. So take your charger with you to school, in case you run into trouble, and use the phone as you believe you will be using it in the future. Then you'll have a more accurate idea of which setup works best for you.

Concordium said:
Well Smartass, as I've heard it described, is sort of like Interactive 2.0. It's basically the interactive governor but better. Unfortunately, I do not know enough of the exact specifics of the governors to tell you which SHOULD be getting better battery. I would just run each of those governors and see which one works better for you.
And I thought your phone already lasted 21 hours with a decent amount of usage. You need to test the governors/kernels in the exact situation you are going to be using the phone. Interactive, Ondemand, and Smartass would all manage the phone pretty much the same if you just leave it alone and let it sit till the battery drains. but they each manage the power allocation supplied to the cpu very differently during actual use. One ramps up the voltage quickly while one scales it up more gradually. So take your charger with you to school, in case you run into trouble, and use the phone as you believe you will be using it in the future. Then you'll have a more accurate idea of which setup works best for you.
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just wondering what do you keep your cpu settings at: the governor, cpu min & max?

When I am plugged into my wall charger I keep it at 1113/245. I use Performance for benchmarking and testing since I don't need to worry about battery life and Smartass when doing everything else. For normal every day use I have it at 1036/245/Smartass, Interactive, or Ondemand. I don't really have a preference between the three governors since they all make my battery last more than long enough. So it usually comes down to whichever my clumsy finger happens to accidentally select first. If I happen to not go home and need more life then I'll drop to 729/245/Conservative or Powersave. I use conservative if I still need to be able to use the phone a bit and powersave if I want my phone to just sit there and look pretty till I get back home.

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When I am plugged into my wall charger I keep it at 1113/245. I use Performance for benchmarking and testing since I don't need to worry about battery life and Smartass when doing everything else. For normal every day use I have it at 1036/245/Smartass, Interactive, or Ondemand. I don't really have a preference between the three governors since they all make my battery last more than long enough. So it usually comes down to whichever my clumsy finger happens to accidentally select first. If I happen to not go home and need more life then I'll drop to 729/245/Conservative or Powersave. I use conservative if I still need to be able to use the phone a bit and powersave if I want my phone to just sit there and look pretty till I get back home.
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why is ur lowest 245 and not 128? sorry if im bugging you

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why is ur lowest 245 and not 128? sorry if im bugging you
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You're not bugging me man. This place exists so people can ask questions and get help.
I keep my min at 245 because I've read, in multiple places, that allowing it to go any lower is not something your cpu really appreciates. Just like there is such thing as too high with your clock speed there is also a too low. And everywhere I have seen 245 is the preferred low end. I am not 100% sure as to why but I would assume that it is because your cpu needs at least a certain amount of power to run the basic processes required to keep your phone functional. Similar to a computer. Lower the cpu too much and it just can't do what it needs to.

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You're not bugging me man. This place exists so people can ask questions and get help.
I keep my min at 245 because I've read, in multiple places, that allowing it to go any lower is not something your cpu really appreciates. Just like there is such thing as too high with your clock speed there is also a too low. And everywhere I have seen 245 is the preferred low end. I am not 100% sure as to why but I would assume that it is because your cpu needs at least a certain amount of power to run the basic processes required to keep your phone functional. Similar to a computer. Lower the cpu too much and it just can't do what it needs to.
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i see do u happen to know of a good thread that talks about this? cause i keep mine at the lowest because i read that its better for battery life, but they never said anything about it being bad

Green_Arrow said:
i see do u happen to know of a good thread that talks about this? cause i keep mine at the lowest because i read that its better for battery life, but they never said anything about it being bad
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I don't remember there being a thread dedicated to this. I just remember it from posts I saw within different OC/UV threads. Do a Google search for it and see if that returns any results. Like I said, I doubt you'll find a full dedicated thread. But you may be able to find the individual posts where it's mentioned.

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I don't remember there being a thread dedicated to this. I just remember it from posts I saw within different OC/UV threads. Do a Google search for it and see if that returns any results. Like I said, I doubt you'll find a full dedicated thread. But you may be able to find the individual posts where it's mentioned.
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thank you, you have been really helpful ^_^

With Tiamat 4.1 and juicedefender I get the best battery performance and v6 supercharger I have a smooth screen with no problems or lag at all.

[Q] what is the best battery saving kernel?

hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.

edshawn911 said:
hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.
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I would be interested in this as well. Currently I am Rooted and have tried a few ROM's but haven't found one yet that doesn't have some bug or another. {Granted, I haven't tried them all} Tried one ROM that really distorted my custom made Wallpapers, which is a big deal to me. So... yes, any info on a better battery life Kernel would be welcome.
Currently I am not a "heavy user" on the phone. Talk - Text - You Tube occasionally... that's it. Constantly looking for better ways to improve this already amazing phone.

Eugenes kernel has given me great battery life. Either get down with Eugene's Macnut ROM which already has it or search for it under the general section under the bounty thread for Eugene. Its in page....58?
Keep in mind that the "beta" kernel does not have bln support but works just fine so long as you use the lionheart governor.
If you can't find the bounty thread then I'm sorry for you.

Synergy kernel has been awesome on battery for many.
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I second just using macnut rom. I've tried em all, and his always gets the best battery life (for me).
I also undervolt via system tuner pro so that I'm at 1137 at 1.51
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G1ForFun said:
Synergy kernel has been awesome on battery for many.
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+1 for Synergy, i got well over a day when i was running rooted stock debloated, etc. Also i use setcpu ondemand gov. 1620 max 384 min

edshawn911 said:
hey guys, i am looking for a kernel that will save me on battery. i am running zombie 4 rom. it says it runs the dark x kernel. i don't need to be running at super speeds but i don't want screen freezes either. i just want to be able to play my satellite radio without the phone draining 3 percent every 5 min or so. any help would be great.
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How you use your phone determines the best way to get the best battery life. Basically there are two ways to save battery: cutting power when not in use and delivering less power to the processors.
If you use your phone intermittently throughout the day for texts or calls, you'll get the best battery results from kernels/ROMs/apps that cut unnecessary functions when you're not using the phone. For example, juice defender cuts your wifi and mobile data when your screen is off and reactivates it every 15min (can be configured otherwise) to check for notifications. Darkside's Digital Warfare utilizes something called "deep sleep" which actually completely turns off your processors when the screen is off, but keeps the basic cell radio on so if you receive a text/phone call it will wake up the processor. These functions have the largest and safest impact on battery life.
If you're constantly using your phone and you want better battery life, you basically only have one option: undervolting. This is essentially supplying less power to your processors, which can be done through system tuner. It's not a free ticket, however; if you undervolt too low then at higher frequencies (playing games, etc.) your processor will become unstable and your phone will randomly reboot. If you encounter this, then don't undervolt that much and up the voltage to the last safe level. Just for reference, undervolting by 50mV is usually considered safe and undervolting past 100mV usually results in boot loops. But how far you can actually undervolt depends on your individual phone hardware, there's no universal answer. Make sure to not set your undervolt settings to set at boot until you find a stable voltage. Otherwise, you'll be forced to restore a nandroid if you encounter a bootloop.
TL;DR
If your phone already lasts a day and you want it to last 2-3 days, look into ROMs/kernels/apps that cut unnecessary functions when not in use. Most effective way to extend battery.
If your phone lasts 8 hours and you want it to last a day because you're a heavy user, look into undervolting with system tuner.

kernel darkside
my phone used in 24h, very good

I'm using juggs. 5.0 with a DSX kernel. I've been getting about 11-12 hours with decent use.
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stock rom. Just download a battery manager from the Market.