So the stickied rooting guide is terrible. It's out of date, points to incorrect file locations, gives steps to take that don't work, and doesn't really explaina what any of the terms it is using actually mean.
Is there any well written guide for how to get root using unrevoked, and how to uninstall stock apps? I thought I had root access, apparently I lost it at some point, and the guide it just frankly less than useless at this point. I have no idead what a "recovery" is, or what a "nandroid" is, or any other terminology the author assumes the audience knows. I don't know what "koush" is, what busybox is, or what a NAND is, or when to reboot or not, there are no clear steps on what to do and when to do them
Any help would be appreciated.
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Apparently restarting the phone gave root back, and I was able to use an uninstaller program from the market to get rid of some stuff. But I never had to reboot to go into any bootloade mode, why is that needed sometimes? And what are those "com." entries, they're not apk's so you can't uninstall them. And there are some apps (Like "Search People") that you can't get rid of at all, how do you remove those?
emkorial said:
So the stickied rooting guide is terrible. It's out of date, points to incorrect file locations, gives steps to take that don't work, and doesn't really explaina what any of the terms it is using actually mean.
Is there any well written guide for how to get root using unrevoked, and how to uninstall stock apps? I thought I had root access, apparently I lost it at some point, and the guide it just frankly less than useless at this point. I have no idead what a "recovery" is, or what a "nandroid" is, or any other terminology the author assumes the audience knows. I don't know what "koush" is, what busybox is, or what a NAND is, or when to reboot or not, there are no clear steps on what to do and when to do them
Any help would be appreciated.
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Apparently restarting the phone gave root back, and I was able to use an uninstaller program from the market to get rid of some stuff. But I never had to reboot to go into any bootloade mode, why is that needed sometimes? And what are those "com." entries, they're not apk's so you can't uninstall them. And there are some apps (Like "Search People") that you can't get rid of at all, how do you remove those?
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I'd be very careful removing/uninstalling anything at all. Say you uninstall something and don't have it backed up then you won't be able to do an update if one comes out unless you can find them again.... OR, you did a complete backup.
Good way to do it is to rename the bloatware apps to something like, bloatware.apk.bak. add the .bak and it won't show/start.
I'vd been doing that, but onl some of the stuff shows up. I can't get rid of "people search", and there is all this com.android.xxxx stuff that I can't remove (there's a com.android.twitter, there's a com.android.FriendStreamWidget, etc) even though I uninstalled the related app. What are those and why are they running?
This looks like it could be a good phone if there wasn't so much garbage sucking up 1/2 the RAM all the time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7408250&postcount=1
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No Stranger to Android. However it is usually on a rooted phone. Now here my scenario. We are looking at issuing Defy's to our inspectors, however we would like to remove the bloatware apps such as Blockbuster, etc. So my question is whether or not there is a way to remove the apps without rooting the phones. I truthfully don't even care if its a paid app we need to do. Thanks!
You can't remove the bloatware without rooting but you could always root the phone using z4root, remove the bloatware and set things up how you like, install the custom recovery, create a backup of the rom then flash it to each of the phones and unroot them.
Yeah.....I was afraid of that. I figured that was the easiest way, but trying to explain that to the director is not going to be fun. At that point I might as well convince him to let me put Froyo or Gingerbread on it. hehe
z4root has a "temporary root" button, and when you reboot root is lost. Unninstall z4root and nothing happened
Perilla_ said:
z4root has a "temporary root" button, and when you reboot root is lost. Unninstall z4root and nothing happened
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Sorry threadstarter for hijacking ur thread, but can you temporary root and remove all those unwanted applications and unroot it ? Is it possible ?
Yes, two options with z4root:
Temporary root: Install program, hit temporary root, remove all the baaaad stuff, reboot, uninstall z4root.
Permanent root: Install program, hit permanent root, remove all the ****, hit un-root, uninstall z4root.
Someone can say me if I am wrong?
Ok so I have z4Root installed and have rooted. Now how do I go about uninstalling apps I don't want. I looked under "Manage Applications" but all I see there are appps that I've installed.
Edit: Nevermind. I figured it out.
Edit: Nope still confused. Cant seem to find the "uninstall" button.
To remove unwanted stuff, the easy way is using rootexplorer, renaming the extension app from apk to bak for example. System apps are in /system/app.
You can too use adb, but it requires more knowledge.
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As another follow up question on this. Is it possible to lock the phone down so that they cannot install any other apps on the phone? I know we could prolly lock the market, but we want it open just in case. Sorry.... never really explored using Android in a corporate enviroment and trying to enforce all the rules that you have under Blackberry and WinMo. Thanks!
All i want to do is root my phone. I have read quite a few articles on it, as well as pros and cons. Searching was also done so don't attack me with the "use the search feature" line. Reading too deep into the rabbit hole proved that anything beyond rooting (although highly beneficial and likely to attempt in the future) was too overwhelming for my busy work schedule. I'm aware of the different methods to achieve root, but I'm still unsure as to whether or not i will lose any data at all, such as app, sms, contacts, call logs, etc.
Any info as to how to root my Evo without losing any data would be greatly appreciated. My main reason is to finally get rid of the Nova app along with others, and to have full control of my phone while i slowly learn from these forums.
P.S. I apologize for being #1,000,000 to ask on this topic.
MindSplit said:
All i want to do is root my phone. I have read quite a few articles on it, as well as pros and cons. Searching was also done so don't attack me with the "use the search feature" line. Reading too deep into the rabbit hole proved that anything beyond rooting (although highly beneficial and likely to attempt in the future) was too overwhelming for my busy work schedule. I'm aware of the different methods to achieve root, but I'm still unsure as to whether or not i will lose any data at all, such as app, sms, contacts, call logs, etc.
Any info as to how to root my Evo without losing any data would be greatly appreciated. My main reason is to finally get rid of the Nova app along with others, and to have full control of my phone while i slowly learn from these forums.
P.S. I apologize for being #1,000,000 to ask on this topic.
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Use unrevoked3. Its easy. Just follow instructions. U wont lose any data or apps or so forth unless u flash a new rom. Use titanium backup from market after u root phone to save apps and data.
Papa Smurf151 said:
Use unrevoked3. Its easy. Just follow instructions. U wont lose any data or apps or so forth unless u flash a new rom. Use titanium backup from market after u root phone to save apps and data.
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Assuming i follow the directions correctly......consider your self loved by a stranger!
Thanks for the quick response.
Now quick question which i couldn't find an answer for. After installing hboot was i supposed to disconnect my phone from usb? Also how do i exit the white menu where it says fastboot, recovery, clear storage etc.
bump! i hope i didnt screw the process up
bump? ok if you already managed to install the drivers, make sure your phone has usb debug on, you do that in settings, apps, development. also make sure you have othe sources checked, you do that on settings, apps.
no turn your antivirus off on your computer
if you installed htc sync uninstall it
now plug your phone to pc( if it prompts you to select type of connection only charge)
then right click on the file that is unrevoked and run as administrator, follow unscreen intructions and done.
mine was automatic so i didnt need to do anything after i ran it.
good luck
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bump? ok if you already managed to install the drivers, make sure your phone has usb debug on, you do that in settings, apps, development. also make sure you have othe sources checked, you do that on settings, apps.
no turn your antivirus off on your computer
if you installed htc sync uninstall it
now plug your phone to pc( if it prompts you to select type of connection only charge)
then right click on the file that is unrevoked and run as administrator, follow unscreen intructions and done.
mine was automatic so i didnt need to do anything after i ran it.
good luck
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ok last question it says done but my phone is on a clockworkmod recovery screen how do i just load my phone up and use it.
sorry late reply you always get out of recovery with the reboot now option, also you should instal titanium back up so you can back up your apps and get busy box, which you need on your phone so it doesnt lag after root, once installed titanium , open it up, it will probably say you need root, if it does dont mind it you have root, at the bottom you will see a box that says problems, hit it and it will ask you to install busy box, hit yes and you are done, hope procedure is easy and you can do it if not click my user name and send me a message
Yes, I'm a noob, but I'm hoping someone can help me anyway. I used SuperOneClick just like the video said. I have my Superuser icon, but big deal. I can't see how to remove any pre-installed apps or even see what good this is for me.
What am I missing? I have a Samsung Galaxy S I9000M
Thanks gang!
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Yes, I'm a noob, but I'm hoping someone can help me anyway. I used SuperOneClick just like the video said. I have my Superuser icon, but big deal. I can't see how to remove any pre-installed apps or even see what good this is for me.
What am I missing? I have a Samsung Galaxy S I9000M
Thanks gang!
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Try Titanium Backup.
Go to the market and download "Android Optimizer" once installed run it and select the un-install button then select "Constrictor" click "OK" and remove all you do not need.
There is also a backup function within the app under the same section rather than remove but i wouldnt rely on that alone.
I would recommend doing a NANDROID backup before you Un-install anything in-case you remove something you later need, or did not know what it was for ect...
Thanks!! Seems to work. Can't find anything called NANDROID, but Optimize Tool Box worked
Doing backups you would need another app, I use is clockwork recovery, then you can boot in to "recovery" and make your back-up, and if say something were to go wrong you would reverse the process and restore your device, which would restore it to the the current state the phone was in prior to the problem not an actual factory restore.
You may wish to look in to nandroid backups and restore, you can find infinite information littered all over this forum, as its quite a common thing to want to do.
Thanks again. I sure could use all the help I can get. I love this phone so I don't want to 'brick' it. Learning the lingo too.
Now that I'm a 'superuser' is there any benefit other than deleting bloatware I had installed on the phone from the factory?
The biggest change you can make is changing ROMs, but that also gives you the biggest risk of bricking.
lifehacker.com/5563924/the-start-to-finish-guide-to-rooting-your-android-phone
You could also overclock your phone, to make it go faster
lifehacker.com/5623510/setcpu-overclocks-or-underclocks-your-rooted-android-phone
and for sure get a backup before you do too much
lifehacker.com/5784857/how-to-set-up-a-fully-automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android
I can't make the links fully functional since i'm a noob on the forums, but you should be able to figure out how to get to the sites.
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The biggest change you can make is changing ROMs, but that also gives you the biggest risk of bricking.
lifehacker.com/5563924/the-start-to-finish-guide-to-rooting-your-android-phone
You could also overclock your phone, to make it go faster
lifehacker.com/5623510/setcpu-overclocks-or-underclocks-your-rooted-android-phone
and for sure get a backup before you do too much
lifehacker.com/5784857/how-to-set-up-a-fully-automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android
I can't make the links fully functional since i'm a noob on the forums, but you should be able to figure out how to get to the sites.
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Thanks! I may give it a shot once I feel more comfortable, but that bricking has me really worried.
Great forums and very helpful members!!!! Thanks!
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Root explorer or root unistaller 2 apps that will do the trick
Useful
Use Root explorer 2.16 and should be able to look at your Root Directory, especially
Data/ Data directory where you games and apps are installed, can be useful
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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I know the difference from freezing and uninstalling is that freezing halts the app from running and removes it from your app list. If you are uninstalling something you think is bloat, back it up first, in case it screws things up you can restore it. Freeze is a good way to test whether or not you want to just simply uninstall it.
Titanium Backup Pro is totally worth the few bucks though if you can afford it.. a real good buy..
As far as the other stuff, I don't mess with system/app things so maybe someone else can help with that.
For the green-coloured apps, I would make sure I have an alternate app that can take care of that feature of the phone. For example you can remove the camera app, but without a replacement/alternate app your phone won't have a camera function.
TBP is the perfect app to test whether an app is good to remove. Just freeze it and see if your phone acts up. My understanding is that freezing=not letting an app run, uninstalling=getting rid of it.
In terms of not having the permission to copy files in the system directories, you may need to install a terminal emulator to change the permissions and do the copying manually.
Thank you guys and sorry for the very late reply. Using TBP i was able to FREEZE many apps, decided to go this route, i was and still am abit afraid of damaging something and not being able to go back and fix it.
However, i still have a few situations. Even freeze so many apps my battery still dies very fax with little use i give the phone. I also see the following apps under my memory usage and i do not know what they are and if they can be froze too to even get more memory back.
Enterprise VPN Service
IPService
SIM Toolkit
CSC
Bluetoothtest (i know that is the bluetooth but do not know if there is a way to freeze this program)
Google Services Framework
Package Access Helper
com.sec.android.providers.d
Download manager
Samsung Account
My Uploads
com.movial.ipprovider
Badgeprovider
Device Management
Systeme manager application
Popupiureceiver
Mobilelife Contacts
smartcardservice
dragonfire665 said:
So i have read many post and i mean many and i am still working my brain on catching on to all these. If you all notice, there is a lot to rooting, what you can do, names to things, so so much my brain hurts lol.
But, finally after almost 2 years of being here, 3 phones i grabbed my cojones and rooted my SG2 while still stock. So here are some things. I was going nuts to get Nandroid backup, come to find out that is just a normal back up while in recovery mode.
Now i was trying to do some things with Titanium Backup but got a bit confused. I noticed that with the lite version, I can only uninstall apps not freeze. I want to clean my phone from all the clogs, especially when i notice my memory use shows most of the time 550m-769m, which i have to keep cleaning it. Hoping, removing some apps will help this. What is the difference between freezing and uninstalling. Also, i came across:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spr...SENVeXlqUm5vV0E&single=true&gid=0&output=html
Which it suppose to tell me which i can which i cant. Does this still apply with ICS? And looking at the list, all greens are good, correct?
Also, using root explorer is kinda weird. I was trying to install S Voice which it seems to be a big pain. For one, i have the package in a folder. When searching for it with Root Explorer, and i find S Voice, try to change permission it wont let me. Telling me the following, "Permissions change was not successful. Please note that some file systems (e.g. SD card) do not allow permission changes."
Also, trying to copy something into my system/app wont let me either.
What am i doing wrong? or missing?
thanks in advance.
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for s voice there is flashable zip in that thread. Its garbage compared to siri in my opinion.
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
now im on stock, this will not damage any of my stock roms or anything within it, correct?
dragonfire665 said:
Another question, i come to noticed that my phone after root, whenever i shutdown or restart it will just hang on the goodbye picture. Is there a fix to this?
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Darkside Cache Wipe worked for me.
Atmazzz said:
Flash Darkside Cache Wipe in recovery.
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Atmazzz i want to say thank you. Doing what you said helped my hang. I do not have that problem anymore. But i am wondering if fixing the permission could have be the cause i lost S Voice talkback feature. What i mean, is that after doing the wipe cache/dalvik and fixing permissiong, now my S Voice does not talk back to me. No matter how many time i restart the phone or whatever i do, it wont talk anymore.
On another note, thanks to you, i have come to understand more about all the rooting. All i have to do now is soon gets some strength and install a new rom than stock. But there are so many, i do not know which one to use. Especially with the official ICS i bet they are better now.
I just also hope that neither of the rom come with the bricking problem. As far as i read it only happens when using ICS kernel and my phone is 0X12 so i get worry.
Okay, I want to be out in the open. I have never rooted a phone, nor ever wished to do it for myself. Unfortunately, I have a father who believes everything is a 1-2-3 clicks away from perfection, which is why he prefers not to do it himself.
Anyways, he requested that I root his phone because he believe it will make it run faster
I tried following the steps on this website, from a link which was for the phone SMG-M919(T-mobile S4)(Ver. 4.3) . This is the link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
So I did finish all the steps required. I got my phone rooted, i checked by downloading "Root Checker". SuperSU even asked for permission, to my limited knowledge that means the phone is rooted.
Anyways, the problem seems to be that when I first opened the SuperSU app, it asked to be updated, it just kept loading and loading, 20 minutes must have passed. The loading screen said it it takes too long, just try again by restarting phone. I did that, but the app never asked me to update again, which is weird. Under the APP or the Logs tab in the SuperSU, it just shows a circle loading pic.
Can someone help me to understand what is going on. Also, apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to post about this in this forum.
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Okay, I want to be out in the open. I have never rooted a phone, nor ever wished to do it for myself. Unfortunately, I have a father who believes everything is a 1-2-3 clicks away from perfection, which is why he prefers not to do it himself.
Anyways, he requested that I root his phone because he believe it will make it run faster
I tried following the steps on this website, from a link which was for the phone SMG-M919(T-mobile S4)(Ver. 4.3) . This is the link, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
So I did finish all the steps required. I got my phone rooted, i checked by downloading "Root Checker". SuperSU even asked for permission, to my limited knowledge that means the phone is rooted.
Anyways, the problem seems to be that when I first opened the SuperSU app, it asked to be updated, it just kept loading and loading, 20 minutes must have passed. The loading screen said it it takes too long, just try again by restarting phone. I did that, but the app never asked me to update again, which is weird. Under the APP or the Logs tab in the SuperSU, it just shows a circle loading pic.
Can someone help me to understand what is going on. Also, apologies in advance if this is the wrong place to post about this in this forum.
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Rooting doesn't make your phone faster. In any way. Just gives you "admin" rights to delete crap and change stuff you normally couldn't.
Changing roms and kernels can tho.
You're fine. Make sure it's updated thru the playstore, if up to date and pop up doesn't come back don't worry about it.
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Rooting doesn't make your phone faster. In any way. Just gives you "admin" rights to delete crap and change stuff you normally couldn't.
Changing roms and kernels can tho.
You're fine. Make sure it's updated thru the playstore, if up to date and pop up doesn't come back don't worry about it.
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Yeah, I definitely know that Rooting wont make it faster ;D but he doesn't despite my nagging.
Anyways, so if I want to delete apps like the T-Mobile App or those Samsung apps, how can I do it
Also, if I click on things like Clear Logs, the loading circle just loads.... never stops.. Is this really how SuperSu functions
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Yeah, I definitely know that Rooting wont make it faster ;D but he doesn't despite my nagging.
Anyways, so if I want to delete apps like the T-Mobile App or those Samsung apps, how can I do it
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Download a file Explorer with root access, I use Root Explorer, but there's free ones like root browser, I think es file Explorer has root, open it up, navigate to system/app delete what you don't want, and go to system/priv-app and delete what you don't want.
You can delete all tmo apps without affecting anything, pretty much all Samsung apps, travel crap, yahoo, etc. Just be careful, delete something like your home launcher you're screwed.
If anything, install TWRP or cwr and make a back up of the system to play it safe.
Or say screw all that, and download a touchwiz rom in Android Development and flash it. If you want latest greatest version both Sickness and myself have some 4.4.4 roms up. Take your pick
Orrrr aosp rom. I don't usually recommend roms but I will say I love nameless rom....