i have similar files on my sdcard
''.android_secure'' ''Android'''
i know that in one of these folders are stored app data the folder are big in size 250 and 800Mb i need that memory for me but whitch folders i am able to delete?.
you are wllcome to explain me more about this.
P.S. sorry for my english.
strauts said:
i have similar files on my sdcard
''.android_secure'' ''Android'''
i know that in one of these folders are stored app data the folder are big in size 250 and 800Mb i need that memory for me but whitch folders i am able to delete?.
you are wllcome to explain me more about this.
P.S. sorry for my english.
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As far as I know, "Android" holds application data and ".android_secure" is used for apps which have been saved to the SD card. Personally, I would probably leave both of them alone; if you've got apps saved to SD maybe move them back to internal memory to free up space on the card? Or give up and buy a bigger card
Yes you can delete it, android will build the folder automatically , but all your data will lost (settings, and everything).
I agree with hopscotchjunkie, if you want more space , better buy new bigger sd card.
or , if you dont want to buy, format your sd card. you'll have fresh 8GB with a fresh rom without any data & applications(that store in sdcard).
Yup i thought for 16GB, before I bought this phone.
Now I figured out what are these folders for.
Android secure- to sdcard mowed apps.
Android- downloaded aditional game files.
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Greetings everyone,
After almost a year of using xperia arc and plenty of cleanups with SEUS I never formated my SD Card. I have a 16GB class 6 one which is half full (Mostly with music, pictures and videos) and yet its full of folders from Apps i used in the past.
The question is; If i delete everything from sd card via computer, then re-mount the card will the needed folders be replaced? Also I have moved apps to sd which i still use, will the folders be replaced aswell?
and last; I already copied all the files i need to my computer, if I will re-download an app and paste the folder back there, will I have the saves back?
Retrosid said:
Greetings everyone,
After almost a year of using xperia arc and plenty of cleanups with SEUS I never formated my SD Card. I have a 16GB class 6 one which is half full (Mostly with music, pictures and videos) and yet its full of folders from Apps i used in the past.
The question is; If i delete everything from sd card via computer, then re-mount the card will the needed folders be replaced? Also I have moved apps to sd which i still use, will the folders be replaced aswell?
and last; I already copied all the files i need to my computer, if I will re-download an app and paste the folder back there, will I have the saves back?
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a bit difficult, try to delete the unused folders instead
but if you do the right backup of the needed data, yes the data will be there.
and the deleted folders created by system should be recreated
Retrosid said:
Greetings everyone,
After almost a year of using xperia arc and plenty of cleanups with SEUS I never formated my SD Card. I have a 16GB class 6 one which is half full (Mostly with music, pictures and videos) and yet its full of folders from Apps i used in the past.
The question is; If i delete everything from sd card via computer, then re-mount the card will the needed folders be replaced? Also I have moved apps to sd which i still use, will the folders be replaced aswell?
and last; I already copied all the files i need to my computer, if I will re-download an app and paste the folder back there, will I have the saves back?
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You must make sure that you format your SD card with FAT32 file system.If you are using Windows OS then there is no need to get worried.Just go ahead with the normal procedure.
Once you format,all the folders and files will be deleted and when you mount it in your phone,the necessary files and folders will be created on its own.These necessary files do not belong to the applications you moved to SD card and it means that you must create a back up of your apps before you format your card,in order to use the apps even if you format your sd card.
I would suggest "Titanium Backup" app to back-up your apps.And when you are done with the back up, make sure that you copy the folder named "TitaniumBackup" from your sd card to your PC/Notebook and then format your card.
KingWickedd said:
You must make sure that you format your SD card with FAT32 file system.If you are using Windows OS then there is no need to get worried.Just go ahead with the normal procedure.
Once you format,all the folders and files will be deleted and when you mount it in your phone,the necessary files and folders will be created on its own.These necessary files do not belong to the applications you moved to SD card and it means that you must create a back up of your apps before you format your card,in order to use the apps even if you format your sd card.
I would suggest "Titanium Backup" app to back-up your apps.And when you are done with the back up, make sure that you copy the folder named "TitaniumBackup" from your sd card to your PC/Notebook and then format your card.
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Thats the answer I was waiting for
Thanks mate, I will delete all the files from my SD Card after the ICS update that we will have in about a month, unless if i flash another rom before that so I will have a clean phone.
Retrosid said:
Thats the answer I was waiting for
Thanks mate, I will delete all the files from my SD Card after the ICS update that we will have in about a month, unless if i flash another rom before that so I will have a clean phone.
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All the best
Formating SD card
Guys i have a similar question!
I have an Htc sensation and i already have ICS (official). My question is: should i format my sd card along the recommended factory reset after the update??
And if so...wont i be loosing some preloaded stuff (if exists) that comes with the phone when i bought it?? i dont care about my apps, all that matters to me is the stock stuff! thank you
Mondea said:
Guys i have a similar question!
I have an Htc sensation and i already have ICS (official). My question is: should i format my sd card along the recommended factory reset after the update??
And if so...wont i be loosing some preloaded stuff (if exists) that comes with the phone when i bought it?? i dont care about my apps, all that matters to me is the stock stuff! thank you
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Yes you will lose all the things you have on your card including the demo videos, stock gallery images, etc.
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I have formated my card already and it goes faster than ever
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Thank you Guys For your help
Hi guys this new games are driving me crazy. New Nova data file is almost 2GB and other new games are not better. And well I am loving at so much I got new 64GB Micro SD card only to find myself in a trouble, all games save data file in internal storage. Now I tried to go to manage programs and select move to SD Card and only thing it did is moved actual game .like 5 mb and not data folder. So my question is this. Can I just manually move data folders from internal storage to external or I need to use program or setting .....I want to use my new 64GB SD card as main data storage for all games , what do I do ? I am on new rooted ICS with Darkside Evolution 3 beta 1
Thanks !
Noone knows or this is so obvious as copy from internal to external that noone want to even drop a line in here
I have 2 mb left on my internal card ...... HEEELP Thx
I'm in the same exact boat! I'd like to know also.
Yeah I can't imagine something like this is not widely discussed and not actually right in the settings. I do see copy to SD in settings of Applications but it looks like all it does is copy of original install files and not data file, come on guys open this huge secret on how to use external SD for all game cache cause Nova 3 is just killing me .........
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
Your wildfire could install what....20-40 apps before getting a low storage warning?
Install an SD card, all your apps go to internal, (except app data...ie games) and your SD card is your "user storage".
Unless you install over 200 apps, most of them large, you will never get a low storage warning on the One V and that is a good thing.
When you want to upgrade to a new SD card, just copy the contents over to your new one, install and go........that simple.
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Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
Compizfox said:
Hi all,
My previous phone was a HTC Buzz (Wildfire). It doesn't have any internal storage, just a pre-installed sd-card.
I got my One V now for 4 weeks, and I just found out it does have internal storage beside the sd-card slot. But what exactly is it?
In Settings --> Storage space it says it got 1 GB of internal storage, of which is 555 MB used by apps. What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
Thank you in advance
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Please free ur internal memory as free as possible....only keep frequently used apps in it, we have 4GB internal memory of which 1GB is available to us...in es file explorer click on favorites and there will be a phone icon.if u want to paste something not ur internal storage as writable through settings
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Compizfox said:
Thank you for answering anyway, but my question was about the internal user storage
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Ahhh, you mean that 95 or so mb of user storage?
1. No, you cannot move apps there
2. Really, not alot of place for music, some photos sure, just select internal storage in the camera app.
The 95 mb or so HTC left us is basically a joke, if youx have a suitable sd card (16gb ones are twenty bucks or less) I really sugest using that and consider that small space as a buffer if your card is removed and you want to suddenly snap a photo......or whatever.
In the future, when we have s-off and can repartion the nand that tiny space will be irrelevant.
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I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
Compizfox said:
I don't know how much it is. I think it's the /mnt/emmc partition. I thought it was 1 GB.
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No problems man, I'll start at the beginning.
Go to settings > storage, you will see:
Internal storage, total space 0.94GB...........it will report apps, and available. The two together should add up.
This is where your apps go
Phone storage, total space 95.23MB.........then available (mine is 95.21MB!!!!)
Storage Card, same total space / available.....this depends on what card you have
This is where app data goes, "user storage" ie. photos, videos, music, email attachments, downloads, etc. It will default to using your SD card if installed. If there is no SD card, or you temporally remove it, it will save stuff to your phone storage.
What partition is it they are talking about? In ES File Explorer, I see /mnt/emmc. It is completely empty. Or are they referring to the /data partition (which I, as user, can't really use directly)?
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The "partions" are as listed above. There are some directories that you may not be able to view because you may not have "root access". If you root your phone, you will now have access to view and edit the entire file system (kinda like being an admin on a windows machine). Unless you are an advanced user, this is not really required. Some system files are hidden by default for good reason, change them or move them (or delete them like my Dad on his home computer**#@!) and you can really mess things up in a way you do not realize until later.
If I want to transfer my own files (music and so on) to the internal storage, in what folder do I need to place it?
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Like I said before, the "internal storage" is for apps only, your "user storage" on your phone is only 95.23MB. Not enough for music really, maybe some photos (In the camera app itself under camera setting > storage > you can select storage card or phone storage) but....you are limited to the 95.23MB of space.
Currently a lot of apps are using my sd-card as storage for their settings and caches. Will they use the internal storage for that if I take out my sd-card?
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Yes, but they obviously will not be able to access any data on the card that is no longer in your phone!!!
It is easy to upgrade your SD card from the one that came with the phone. hook a USB cable to your phone, select "disk drive" from the drop down menu, copy the contents all at once onto the new SD card (if hooked upto your computer as well), power down the phone, swap cards and reboot......boom....more storage!!!
I hope that answered your questions, if not we'll have to talk S-off, hboots, nand partioning etc!!!!
Regards.
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
Compizfox said:
Thank you for the clear explanation!
I'm running Lloir's CM10 build now. So I have root
If I understand correctly, the 1 GB internal storage is the /data/ partition? And /mnt/emmc is just 95 MB of useless storage? Weird that CWM has got an option to make a Nandroid backup to the internal storage then. Won't fit
I've got a 4 GB SD-card btw
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Yup, you've got it right.
The CWM probably has that option for other devices. The HTC desire, by default (similiar to the wildfire), 512MB nand, approx 105MB for the user (apps, user data, everything!). With s-off, we had scripts in which the ext3 partion of the sd card would be read as part of the "internal" storage, so not all was lost.
But, back on topic, yes just nandroid to your sd card.
Cheers man, glad to hear your enjoying your phone.
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it's because i put the option in..
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Lloir said:
it's because i put the option in..
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Cool, what partion does this option use?
Edit: disregard the question dude, read the dev thread and got ky answer. Good work.
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Hi
I own a galaxy tab s 10.5 the problem is App size on my device is not appropriate for example total size of Mortal is shown "Total Size=78.82" while I've downloaded more than 1GB . Other games like Gangstar4 and WWE 2K have this issue. when I try to move these games to sd card only a few MB ( e.g. 50MB) is moved and the strange part is also the TOTAL size of app is increased a few MB. why? and how can I solve this issue?
Thanks
It is most likely showing the app size which is tiny compared to data required to play the game.
John.
Abbas_fr said:
Hi
I own a galaxy tab s 10.5 the problem is App size on my device is not appropriate for example total size of Mortal is shown "Total Size=78.82" while I've downloaded more than 1GB . Other games like Gangstar4 and WWE 2K have this issue. when I try to move these games to sd card only a few MB ( e.g. 50MB) is moved and the strange part is also the TOTAL size of app is increased a few MB. why? and how can I solve this issue?
Thanks
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
It is most likely showing the app size which is tiny compared to data required to play the game.
John.
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Thanks for replying. but actually I've downloaded the game data and I can play the game
I'm still discovering some of this myself, but here's what I've concluded so far
Android has a concept of internal data, internal sdcard and external sdcard...
In recent years, since Android 4.0 or even 3.x the internal data and internal sdcard are really sharing the same storage, here the internal 16g, using special Linux disk partitioning trixks
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
The only thing you can hope for, is that the app itself is coded to make use of the external sdcard. Theres a folder on the /ExtSdCard which is /Android/data in which each app can make one sub-folder. The sub folder there has the same technical package name as the app.
At this point I would guess that the contents (size) of this folder is not reported by the screen you showed. And that your game data is stored there.
Can you have a look with a file browser?
When moving an app only part of it can be moved, sometimes non. Usually the app can be moved. However essential data required to run the app itself is not moved. Then there is the 'extra' data which is required to play the game itself. Which either gets installed to the internal or external sd card. Sometimes this data can be moved, sometimes not, it depends what the app developer allows.
Think of it like Windows, you can choose where a program gets installed, but the essential stuff will always be installed to the windows partition and cannot be moved.
Really your game data should be showing under data or sd card data.
What you are seeing being moved is probably just the app itself.
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fred_be9300 said:
I'm still discovering some of this myself, but here's what I've concluded so far
Android has a concept of internal data, internal sdcard and external sdcard...
In recent years, since Android 4.0 or even 3.x the internal data and internal sdcard are really sharing the same storage, here the internal 16g, using special Linux disk partitioning trixks
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
The only thing you can hope for, is that the app itself is coded to make use of the external sdcard. Theres a folder on the /ExtSdCard which is /Android/data in which each app can make one sub-folder. The sub folder there has the same technical package name as the app.
At this point I would guess that the contents (size) of this folder is not reported by the screen you showed. And that your game data is stored there.
Can you have a look with a file browser?
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What he said, it all one big data partition now, so nothing actually gets moved to the ext sd card. The move to option is from the old days of having one partition for apps and data and another storage. Now data and storage share the same partition, which is good because it allows you to use the entire device storage for apps. That's why we are now stuck with mtp instead of mass storage mode.
fred_be9300 said:
The "move to sdcard" button moves some of the App files (apk) to the *internal* sdcard. NOT to the external sdcard. So in terms of that precious and small internal 16gb, you don't win any at all !!
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In terms of Samsungs implementation, this isn't the case for the app itself. The app is moved to external sd - you can prove this by unmount in your sd card - apps on SD will be greyed out as unavailable.
The real issue is that if an app has large data files that are downloaded after the app is installed usually go to internal sd, Because this is a function of the app itself, and not apps2sd.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
In terms of Samsungs implementation, this isn't the case for the app itself. The app is moved to external sd - you can prove this by unmount in your sd card - apps on SD will be greyed out as unavailable.
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Are you sure this is the case for the Tab S?
I tested this on my first day having the Tab S... When moving apps to SD
- size used internally did not decrease
- size used on external SD did not increase
- I searched for new files on external SD, could not find any.
I'm not rooted, that limits my options to look properly.
I've had apps2sd in my old HTC desire, do I'm not clueless
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Are you sure this is the case for the Tab S?
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Positive.
You can see this more clearly with large apps.
For example, I have Word, Excel, and Powerpoint on my Tab S, and around 500MB free.
If I move these to SD, my free internal space goes up to 874MB.
If I unmount my external SD, the apps grey out with a small "SD" icon against them, and can't be used until I remount the SD card.
Hello,
Im experiencing really weird problem that never happened to me and now Im trying to find a solution but I cant find anything and I dont really want to format my phone because it would solve this problem only for some time.
The problem Im experiencing is regarding to my storage / sd card.. when I install any app it will make folder on my phone storage and not on SD Card even tho I selected to install apps on my SD Card. Another problem is that when I try to move that file that is placed in my phone storage to my SD Card then it wont clear any space from phone storage but the file is gone - and then when I run the app it says that I need to download additional datas and when I press download data it just say that my storage is full and I got 45gb free SD card and almost full phone memory even when I moved 1,5GB file to sd card .. I really dont know what to do..
Im also adding screenshot of my used space where you can clearly see that my apps on phone memory got 4GB and other files got around few hundred mbs but my free space is ONLY 500 MB and graph showing I should have around 6GB of free space..
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Im not rooted and running latest stock ROM
What app are you trying to delete the files in? Doesn't it have trash or something?
It doesnt matter what application Im trying to move (Im not uninstalling them or deleting) its happening to every app.
Anyone please?
i got this concern too. i want to install large games with obb files, but even if i transfer manually the obb files to ext sd/android/obb folder the game always says "download additional files" . in short the game can't find or locate the obb file due to some limitation on ext card permissions to read and write. im not sure on other devices. but i do believe thats how default android system is. :crying:
Correct me if im wrong but i guess the only solution here is to root our zf2 and install folder mount . forgive me for my first post. newbie here
Asus Zenfone 2 ZE551ML
2GB Ram 16GB Rom
Asus 2.20.40.160
Not Rooted
If you are root, try to install this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
Rageweawer said:
Hello,
Im experiencing really weird problem that never happened to me and now Im trying to find a solution but I cant find anything and I dont really want to format my phone because it would solve this problem only for some time.
The problem Im experiencing is regarding to my storage / sd card.. when I install any app it will make folder on my phone storage and not on SD Card even tho I selected to install apps on my SD Card. Another problem is that when I try to move that file that is placed in my phone storage to my SD Card then it wont clear any space from phone storage but the file is gone - and then when I run the app it says that I need to download additional datas and when I press download data it just say that my storage is full and I got 45gb free SD card and almost full phone memory even when I moved 1,5GB file to sd card .. I really dont know what to do..
Im also adding screenshot of my used space where you can clearly see that my apps on phone memory got 4GB and other files got around few hundred mbs but my free space is ONLY 500 MB and graph showing I should have around 6GB of free space..
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Im not rooted and running latest stock ROM
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well.. first of all u must know this fact that there are only few apps are present which can install on sd cards.. 90% of apps are developed to install on internal storage, if u will move them to sd card, they will not run.. and copying appdata files directly frm file explorer never solves this problem.. it will eat ur double space only.. there is specific way of doing this.. but only for those which supports installlation on sd card.
now ur problem of space, just clean ur junkfiles.. use xplore file explorer, enable 'show hidden files' and check one by one that which folder and file is eating ur storage.
if it doesnt work.. only last option is hard reset from stock recovery.
What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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yeah.. during 4.4 time.. apps were sd card freindly, but nowdays its rare.. bcoz every app developer is in race of superiority.. internal sd gives better r/w speed, and its not removable so that app can run 24/7 on your device.. dats y they make apps to install on sd.
dont get dissappointed.. your problem is solved in andoid 6.0 marshmellow, it gives u option of using external sd card as phone's internal storage. as soon as u insert the sd card.. it will ask you that how to use it.. as a portable storage or as a internal storage..
So plz go get buy 128 gb ssd.
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Rageweawer said:
What is the main difference between internal storage and sd card? I dont get it why it shouldnt also work from the sd card.. and I was told by others that if I root my phone and download specific app / change settings I will be able to install to my sd card too. I was also normally installing my stuff on sd card when I had previous phone with 4.2 Android. With all these things I really shouldnt buy 128gb card that cost me 40€ because there is 95% of free space and I cant move anything (applications) to it.
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your phone may be full of junks.. plz make backup of your important data.. hard reset it.. hard reset is required evry 3-4 months. just do it.. it wil solve ur problem.. other wise if u are rooted then get the root explorer and delete the un necessary files from root.
Oh thats great that Android 6 will make my sd card work again. But now there is that issue that Asus is working so slowly on Android 6 :<
is there a "trash" folder? every time i delete things, they disappear, but the space doesnt free up. i also have the same problem as the original poster: my apps and all files only take up about 6.5 Gb, but my free space is only 800Mb out of 11.5Gb...i downloaded "diskusage" and it shows 4.9Gb of "system files" but i cant find them using my file manager or storage screen (this is in addition to the 4.6 Gb of "system reserved" space)
I tried to show hidden files and found a ".trash" folder, but there isnt anything in it
use ES file explorer , it has a feature to find all junk. Also ZF2 is not deleting files from gallery , it stores them in .trash. Check that too.