[Q] Question about GPS when is cloudy outside... - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So...when is cloudy outside (not so cloudy) GPSfix can't find GPS signal (GPS on the phone is turned on)...
I need GPSfix 'cause GPS on the phone doesn't work properly...but i think it's no good...how navigation work when it's cloudy outside?!
Anybody got some good idea for me?

clouds are a well-known obstacle for gps signal, as well as trees, high buildings, etc.
depending on the type of clouds, you can get more or less of the satellite signal.
if you have an external GPS reciever, you might try that, and compare with the one inside desire.
Also take into account that a GPS reciever has a high "cold boot" time - that is the time from when it's turned on until it gets a signal fix. If you just activated your GPS, you might want to wait 2-3 minutes for it to boot.

Ok...thank you

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[Q] can't get GPS to work properly

I keep having problems with getting a gps fix on my DHD.
I turn on the GPS on the phone, also setting it to checked in the "Location" settings, and I wait forever. Yesterday I tried using the Compass app (By Catch.com), the GPS Status app, Tried using My Tracks and RunKeeper, and couldn't get a fix.
Every time I go back to the "Location" settings, and check and uncheck the "Use wireless networks" box, and also turn on or off the WIFI radio. But nothing seemed to work.
This morning I tried again, set My Tracks to record the road, and it did get a fix after about 5 minutes - So sometimes it does work.
I did manage to get fixes at various times, using all the apps above, but most times I need to fiddle with it quite a lot before it works, by checking and unchecking stuff. Sometimes it finally gets a fix with the "Use wireless networks" checked, and wifi turned on (even on locations where I have no wifi), and sometimes when its off.
Using the GPS Status app I see it usually finds 8-11 satellites, and they all seem green and with high bars, but I get no location at the end. Also with the Compass - I can see it connects to 10/10, but there is no long/lat.
What can cause all this mess? Is there some known bug with the gps? Or maybe some apps are interfering with others?
I also don't have any data plan (2g or 3g), so I only surf on wifi. Maybe this trows the location off somehow?
My location results are less accurate than 3g but still usable. Have you had better gps results from other devices? Your area might have some problems.
Cheers from my DHD.
When it works, it works just fine. Today on my way to work it succeeded in getting a fix after several minutes (which I still consider to be a bit too long - it should do it in less than a minute).
Last week, during a short jog outside of my house, it got a fix using RunKeeper.
Two days ago, while walking outside for well over an hour, and seeing in all the apps it finds multiple satellites, I could not get any fix at all. I want to use GPS only, no need for 3g or wifi. It should be enough (And had been enough on other occasions).
And it wasn't only defective two nights ago - many times I can't seem to get a fix. And only occasionally I get it to work properly.
I have the same problem ,i flashed a few different radios to try them and getting a gps lock was a nightmare.Originally i was on radio 26.03.02.26 and it was actually fine(shouldnt have messed with something that works.I have now flashed back to that radio and same problems.
i am sitting here with the misses hd and it instantly finds 6 sats and gets a gps lock while my hd finds one and does nothing.
i turn off gps on both phones ,turn back on and now her phone gets a lock at least 1 min faster.
Seems to be first time using gps after booting phone,once i have turned gps on give it a few mins then turn it off.I now run gps status on both phones,gps turns on and now get 2 more sats and a much lower error reading.
I have the same issues with gps, if I leave my phone flat on the dashboard of my car so that the screen is facing upwards, the gps seems to work without losing a fix, maybe because it connects to more satellites.
when I place the phone in my dash mount, it seems to drop signals and loses location.
I have tried a solution which I found while browsing the net extensively for the problem you mentioned and there does not seem to be much info on the issue. The solution I found on the net seemed to have made a huge difference although more testing is needed.
I have downloaded a program called "Tracker Booster - Tracker Booster is a small utility to help sports tracker applications (e.g. Endomondo) to get best possible GPS signal by keeping the GPS unit active in the background." It is available for free from the market, the way to use it is by starting this program up and then clicking "Start Booster" followed by "send to Background", then load GPS Status, hopefully once you see some satellites on GPS status and have a fix, you can now load your sat nav software or google maps, I use co-pilot.
Once you have finished with using the GPS, remember to stop Tracker Booster as it runs in the background and keeps your GPS on constantly which will no doubt drain the battery.
This so far has worked for me and as I have stated earlier, I need to do a few more trips before I can say that it works all the time.
I think this is the best solution until something better comes up.
This is not whats happening to me - When it's not working properly, I can't seem to get a fix at all, even after a long while. When I do get a fix, it works just fine even when the DHD is in my pocket, or facing sideways.
Has anyone one of you guys tried using gps status from android market?
Download it reset agps data than redownload agps data and that's it.
I get a fix in aprox 10s without it is few minutes
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[Q] Anyone have GPS tweak for accuracy?

Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
I've used mine a lot for gps, i just make sure to download agps data with an app called GPS test as soon as i can, then if i'm not moving too much from where i stopped gps for the last time it takes very little to lock.
I'm on CM7 and it never disappointed me in Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and France.
Any GPS fix i've tried did nothing good for me.
My defy lock fast. What bothers me is the accuracy.
Google maps shows accuracy 4-9m, but real position is off sometimes by 200m.
Sometimes it correct itself, other time, even if I waited for a few minutes, it didn't show my real position.
And I'm sure I disable Use Wireless Networks in location setting.
So how is your accuracy?
Relly good, thanks
Seriously, i've seen this mentioned quite often in the CM7 thread, but it never happened to me.
As said before, keeping agps data pretty updated to my position or close enough has always been enough for me.
Good luck in finding a solution that works for you!
GPS has been working perfectly for me under any Rom. Stock GB, CM7 and Stock Froyo.
In CM7 it locks pretty fast, always under 10 secs, after a few secs accuracy down to 3m. Works really good.
I only have GPS Status to download from time to time accurate AGPS data and that's all.
Thanks for the reply..
I have tried almost everything.
Tuning gpsconfig.xml and location.cfg, clear agps cache, restart before testing many value one by one. Tried many stock rom, take GPS files from milestone and milestone2 and the GPS still inconsistent.
Sometimes its accurate, but after turn off GPS for a few second, turn on again, its showing wrong position with accuracy shown as 4-9m, waited for some minutes, and still wrong. Sometimes its accurate for a few test, but after a few minutes, turn on GPS again, its showing wrong position again.
Tried also calibrate compass, even remove the compass driver, but still error.
There is a possibility of multipath error in GPS (bouncing signal from surrounding), but with easily lock to 5-6 satellites with 10-12 satellites in view, I suppose this can nullify error, as real for positioning, we only needed 4 satellites.
I hope there is someone out there know fix for this..
use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
pravarth said:
use this fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=953630
Maybe it helps
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Already tried.. even tested various value in gps.conf. No good..
Thanks.
bobo9900 said:
Is there anyone who use defy GPS daily? Can you share which rom or any GPS tweak to make defy more accurate and responsive for navigation?
I have been testing defy GPS, it seems like its rather not accurate to pinpoint location. Accuracy show 4-9m, but often real position is off by 30-200m. For navigation, it's response time rather slow plus the inaccuracy makes it not reliable. My old windows mobile P3600 gives precise position when put beside defy while navigating.
For info, I have disable wifi in location setting. I know I have successfully download supl data. With data enabled, I can lock under 10 sec.
This inaccuracy had been a problem for CM7. I have tested stock froyo and gingerbread, and problem still there.
So, can anyone help here? Do you have the same problem, if not please share your rom version or tweak..
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MIUI rom allows you to enter your preferred satellite under ph settings ^^
Then use gps status app to manage a-gps state - I get anywhere from 10 - 30m accuracy
You are not alone
GPS accuracy on my Defy has been a concern since I bought it. Just like yours, it locks to 4-6 satellites and claims that it's accurate to 4 meters, but my real position is usually a block away. Other symthoms are:
- Accuracy improves with speed and becomes very good when traveling by car, very poor when still or just walking. The correlation between accuracy and speed should be the other way around...
- If there are more than 6 satellites in view, it locks to a maximum of six and then starts "jumping" from one set of satellites to another each two seconds or so. It does so even if the telephone is completely still. I think It should stay with the same satellites while not moving.
As you, I also tried all and every GPS fix script under the sun to no good, even filled a bug report for CM7 back in the day with no luck. It seems that a lot of people out there have perfectly working GPS (o so it seems).
This issue is quite strange though. I have a green lens Defy, and my wife has a Red lens one. We bought them several months apart and they both have the same accuracy issue, so it doesn't seem to be related to a bad production batch. I wonder if its related to geographic position (maybe it works worse in some countries, somehow)
Hopefully its a software issue and can be fixed.
I dont have this issue. Ive actually been sort of surprised at the accuracy of the GPS with CM7... it locks on within seconds (vs the minutes with Froyo). Almost instantaneous with WIFI and GPS on. And it is always accurate. Sorry to hear about your GPS troubles. It could be a hardware problem also?

[Q] Can't get good GPS fix (in US)?

Not sure what it is, but I haven't been able to get a solid GPS fix since I got the phone. Any other phone I use may take a minute, but it'll get a pretty accurate fix afterward - 50 feet or less. And this is in the same exact place.
I sat with the phone and the GPS Test app by Chartcross initially, and had 24 satellites in view. I went and downloaded FasterGPS and updated the GPS for US servers (since the Mini came from France I believe), and now I can get between 3 and 6 in use, but it only locks very rarely, and even when it does, it's only to like 500 feet in accuracy. As I'm typing, it randomly jumped to 7 satellites, accuracy bounced between 200 and 300 feet...and a few seconds later it went back to no lock and going between 3 and 6 in use.
Suggestions? I already rooted the phone, as well as installed Xposed and Crossbreeder. And of course, I have all proper GPS settings turned on.
EDIT: I went and did that simple fix all around the web of tightening the screws...didn't seem to help much. I went outside, and had no problem getting like 20/23 satellites, accuracy to like 5 feet. But as I go inside, I lose accuracy/satellites, until I get to my apartment and have nothing again. Is the S4 Mini's GPS antennae just weaker than other's?
When indoors, did you turn your wifi on?
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When indoors, did you turn your wifi on?
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Nope, always used data for the phones. And even using Wifi on the S4 Mini doesn't seem to help in terms of a GPS fix.
I've noticed on all 3 android phones I've had, that gps generally doesn't work indoors.
I did get a faster fix outdoors using the app GPS Status and updating the A-GPS data from within the Tools menu.
You should also try moving in one direction as you are trying to get a fix outdoors - always works for me.

[Q] GPS broken?

I am on the stock AT&T rom on my E980 and one day out of no where, my GPS cannot find my location. When I am on wifi it knows where I am at but if I am in the car or just walking around somewhere, it cannot find me. I have tried some apps on the play store that say that it "fix" the issues but none of them do. Do I need to call AT&T or is there something I can flash that can fix my issue?
Thanks.
It sounds like you may not have set the gps to high accuracy since with Wi-Fi you can find your location. Try setting, location, and set gps to high accuracy instead of battery saving mode. If that's not your problem, try a gps testing app and see what that does.
hawkwind212 said:
It sounds like you may not have set the gps to high accuracy since with Wi-Fi you can find your location. Try setting, location, and set gps to high accuracy instead of battery saving mode. If that's not your problem, try a gps testing app and see what that does.
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I made sure that the location mode was on high accuracy and I even tried device only and alas, maps couldn't find me. I tried one of the GPS "Fixing" apps and it showed that I had a very weak GPS signal. I don't a case on my phone and I was on my deck while I was testing.
Chronic cross said:
I made sure that the location mode was on high accuracy and I even tried device only and alas, maps couldn't find me. I tried one of the GPS "Fixing" apps and it showed that I had a very weak GPS signal. I don't a case on my phone and I was on my deck while I was testing.
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Custom ROMs past the gproj-common GPS HAL fix have great GPS.

GPS Spoofing Not Working

Hello! Unfortunately, I'm caught up in Pokemon Go. There are no Pokemon anywhere near me unless I want to drive 30 minutes. I love the game though! I've used multiple GPS Spoofers to no avail.
They all work to some degree, but most will end up pinging me back to my real location every 5-10 seconds and I'm trying to not get banned. Here's what I've done so far:
Rooted
Set App to mock locations
Xposed + Mock Mock Locations
GPS Only
LockToIt + other spoof apps
Turning off Wi-Fi
Any other tips? I've tried to route a distance a to b and also standing still. It somehow still knows where I am and the game blips to my current location every 5-10 seconds.
Same issue, tried with root + lucky installer + fake gps as system + disable scanning bluetooth, wifi + location accuracy gsm only = still ping me back to real location (can't do any gyms fight because of that, farming pokemon is doable if you set your fake gps not too far from your real one though.)
Same here.
kaivorth said:
Hello! Unfortunately, I'm caught up in Pokemon Go. There are no Pokemon anywhere near me unless I want to drive 30 minutes. I love the game though! I've used multiple GPS Spoofers to no avail.
They all work to some degree, but most will end up pinging me back to my real location every 5-10 seconds and I'm trying to not get banned. Here's what I've done so far:
Rooted
Set App to mock locations
Xposed + Mock Mock Locations
GPS Only
LockToIt + other spoof apps
Turning off Wi-Fi
Any other tips? I've tried to route a distance a to b and also standing still. It somehow still knows where I am and the game blips to my current location every 5-10 seconds.
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Same exact situation (except I'm using a Droid Turbo). Lockito was running flawlessly last night. I changed nothing. Tried to do it again this morning, and I get the same problem (my GPS keeps flicking back to my real location for 1 second, every ~4 seconds or so).
I have the same issue with my Nexus 5x.
Noticed that when I'm in a concrete building (no GPS signals get through), I can spoof without a problem. Once I go back outside, the GPS receiver picks up a signal and starts interfering with the mock locations.
So my solution for now: lock yourself up in some kind of bunker, or leave your phone in an iron closet while spoofing a walk and let your eggs hatch!
Razorke said:
I have the same issue with my Nexus 5x.
Noticed that when I'm in a concrete building (no GPS signals get through), I can spoof without a problem. Once I go back outside, the GPS receiver picks up a signal and starts interfering with the mock locations.
So my solution for now: lock yourself up in some kind of bunker, or leave your phone in an iron closet while spoofing a walk and let your eggs hatch!
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Too hardcore for me.
Wrap the back of your phone in tinfoil. At least 4-8 layers. worked for me, no lie. I check google maps first to make sure it is not jumping between real and mock location before launching game. I do however stay with in a few miles of my home location. I thought you only got a soft ban for gps spoof on phone... I think this would be only fair especially for the disabled who can not get out and walk.
The GPS sensor inside the Nexus 5x is very sensitive. Using it to navigate the concrete jungle of New York City, once GPS lock on was achieved, it stayed rock solid. This is the reason of the rubber banding.
Solution?
1) Disable Fused Service - a system app. This takes info from various GPS sources (cell phone, internet and GPS sensor) and fuses it together. Root is required for this.
2) Wrap the back of phone in aluminium foil, to degrade the GPS sensor sensitivity.
Try to flashing original firmware

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