I am trialling Opera Mobile and Opera Mini on my phone, and I'm getting slightly irritated that now and again, whilst browsing and hitting certain links, I am being asked which browser to use as default for that type of action.
What I really want is when I'm using the stock browser, the phone will just stay in that browser and not suggest the others. And vice versa. And I don't want to set a defaut browser for anything.
Dunno if I've made myself clear?!!
If functioning properly, it should only ask you which browser once for each particular condition. Just be sure you check the box to set your selection as default before making the selection. But every time you install a new browser, it will start the process over again. As long as you don't change anything, you should see that dialog box only a few times, and probably never again.
I have Opera, Dolphin, and the stock browser coexisting on my phone just fine.
I had this issue as well. What you do is when it prompts which browser to use from your stock browser, select the stock browser. When the prompt originates from your alternate browser, select the alternate browser.
Ok thanks guys, I will do as you've suggested.
I've avoided checking the "default" box so far as I wasn't really sure what I was agreeing to, ie was it:
1. Default this type of link to always open in Opera
2. Default this type of link to always open in Opera when browsing in Opera
What you have said makes sense now.
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I love my TP2 (vodafone version) but if I go to any site that has a mobile version it redirects me to that even though I want to see the full version. It is driving me mad.
BBC.co.uk redirects to bbc.co.uk/mobile
telegraph.co.uk redirects to m.telegraph.co.uk
Are others having this problem. I seemed to stop it yesterday after I tried changing the user agent string to a mozilla one but then it has gone back to the original user agent now after I rebooted the phone.
Try using skyfire for your browsing needs it has never done me wrong just dont visit any sites that are too personal like bank accounts and the like, ive benn told its not secure. there should also be a setting that lets you identify your handset as a desktop computer using opera. but ive had that same issue with a reset where i have to go in and set it again. Also just got netfront 3.5 and I havent had too much time with it but its a unique experience .
It has something to do with the browser. Thd symbian OS browser is the same.
Thanks for the tips but Skyfire is OK but nowhere near the browsing an screen quality experience of Opera.
My Experia didnt do this so it is only a setting somewhere but not sure what?
Are you navigating to sites by opening the "Internet" tab on TF3D and entering the URL into the search box at the top of the screen? If you do that, Google picks it up and returns you mobile versions of all the sites. If I put "bbc.co.uk" in there, a page of results comes up, and the first one is "bbc.co.uk/mobile".
To navigate to a page properly, open the "Internet" tab as normal but then click on the great big "launch browser" button (with a picture of the earth). Then select the address box at the top of the screen and enter your URL here instead.
Is that any better?
Nope I am not doing that as I have disabled TF3D because I hate it, but thats another story.
No I am not referring to the search page results and following pages that google formats, I am talking about typing plane old pages into Opera after launching opera from the programs menu.
don't have TP2 yet, but in my FUze opera -> menu -> settings -> display -> uncheck mobile view. that should do it. I'm still getting the hang of opera after using skyfire in the Kaiser.
Yes that is already unchecked too.
I believe that the BBC checks what browser you are using and then directs you to the page it thinks you want to see.
At the bottom of their home page there is a preferences link. Tells you to bookmark the version you are happiest to see.
Guess the Telegraph does the same. That would explain why setting your browser to say it is mozilla gave you the usual BBC page.
No idea on a long term fix except to bookmark! They are getting too clever for their own good!!!
The bbc and others take you to the crappy mobile site even if you dont want it. It drives me mad.
Have you tried going to the URL opera:config in opera and changing the settings there. I don't know if it will overwrite on soft reset but under user prefs there is a Custom User-Agent setting.
You could look at changing that perhaps?
Might be something with spoof useragent ID?
I fould this:
1 = Opera (default user agent string of Opera)
2 = Mozilla
3 = Internet Explorer
4 = Mozilla, Opera not mentioned
5 = Internet Explorer, Opera not mentioned
but that is probably not the whole story!!!
I have changed the max number of open tabs on this page to 4 from 2. following advice from someone here. That worked fine
Yes I make the changes that fix the problem then when I soft reset they go back to the old settings. I reckon it is because it is a Vodafone rom because it always sets it back to a Vodafone user agent string.
Strange, I make the changes in the editor and nothing happens but then I located the opera.ini file that the editor should edit in the \windows\opera folder and I edited it with a text editor in windows then uploaded the edited file. Nothing changed until I rebooted and then it was fine.
I changed my user-agent string to a standard Mozilla one and this has fixed my problem for some sites including the one I wanted to fix the mostbut not the telegraph.co.uk one. They must use something else. Need to play a bit more.
Download Opera Beta 9.7
Works great for me. No re-direction to mobile sites what so ever. There is an option in the settings of beta version to turn mobile view on/off. By default it's OFF.
When I install 9.7 beta on my vodafone TP2 and run it, it hangs and I have to reboot the device.
Sorted!!!!!
Don't you hate it when something so simple doesn't work!
OK, Tested BBC and telegraph after a reset and they both work.
Not my solution entirely but it came from here on the first post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470001
Thank you gtrab.
The issue was that the config tool with opera was not saving the configuration properly so after a reset my opera:config seemed to be going back to an old version. One that I had hacked and broken!!!! ( I have no idea why that one saved and other ones didn't
Solution was to use total commander to get hold of the windows/opera9/opera.ini file and edit this on my computer before replacing back into the opera9 folder
I have gone back to the vodafone useragent
Custom User-Agent=Vodafone/1.0/HTC_Touch_Pro2/1.14.161.5 (50207) Opera/9.50 (Windows NT 5.1; U; en)
Default Spoof UserAgent
Spoof UserAgent ID=1
And it seems the important one
UAProf URL Enabled=0
Now I am getting the web pages as I see them on the desktop. Horah!!!!
Oh awesome thankyou. I searched everywhere for an answer but you found it. I will go and give it a try.
More info on opera.com
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Opera mobile 10.1 beta works like a charm on my Galaxy S Doc Froyo XWJPO v7.6.2. It even downloads flash-videos (e.g. tagesschau.de) and opens them with the internal video player. Only live stream is not working.
Thanks a lot. Is Opera going to publish this version or will Opera Mobile 10 for Android only be pre-installed on selected devices? (I read something like that on areamobile.de --> uu.uu.uu.areamobile.de/news/13631-opera-mobile-10-jetzt-auch-fuer-android)
Isn't the final version going to be released today?
Works amazingly fast and smooth on my galaxy s. I love it! It doesn't play all our even most flash content so it can't yet replace the stock browser, but once plugin support is there, I'll only use this one for sure!
Will the mobile version compress data like mini did?
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Will the mobile version compress data like mini did?
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I has an option to use compression or not.
What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera:config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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Idan73 said:
What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera: config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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How do you get to the advanced settings? I cant seem to find it on this beta release
Gave it a quick try. Very good but still not perfect.
When zooming in the images and text are blurry for a second and it only updates after you stop zooming, unlike the stack browsers where it's instant.
It is very smooth when scrolling though.
Also in landscape mode, I can't zoom out fully. This is weird, why do they do this? It's not as bad as Opera Mini was in landscape but it still prevents this from being as nice to use as Dolphin HD. I want full control of zoom all the time, not just in portrait mode.
Also can't import bookmarks from the stock browser. Hope they add this ability.
Needs an exit button for when you don't want to leave it in the background, like Dolphin HD. Sometimes you want to close it so it doesn't return to it's previous state and rather starts 'fresh'.
Will keep it to see future updates and maybe if I want to preserve bandwidth when using mobile data. But Dolphin HD will stay as my default for now.
I have a problem on JPA... Internet browser won't save as default, no matter how many times I set it >_<
Great news.
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Gave it a quick try. Very good but still not perfect.
When zooming in the images and text are blurry for a second and it only updates after you stop zooming, unlike the stack browsers where it's instant.
It is very smooth when scrolling though.
Also in landscape mode, I can't zoom out fully. This is weird, why do they do this? It's not as bad as Opera Mini was in landscape but it still prevents this from being as nice to use as Dolphin HD. I want full control of zoom all the time, not just in portrait mode.
Also can't import bookmarks from the stock browser. Hope they add this ability.
Needs an exit button for when you don't want to leave it in the background, like Dolphin HD. Sometimes you want to close it so it doesn't return to it's previous state and rather starts 'fresh'.
Will keep it to see future updates and maybe if I want to preserve bandwidth when using mobile data. But Dolphin HD will stay as my default for now.
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I can zoom in and out completely in landscape and in portrait
Imports bookmarks and speed dial from desktop version. And unlike chrome to phone it actually works.
Agree with you for the rest except this is my browser of choice now. Waiting on beta 2
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I can zoom in and out completely in landscape and in portrait
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Depends on the site.
As a test go to myadsl.co.za.
In Dolphin HD (and I assume default browser too) when I hold the phone in landscape I can see the whole width of the site.
But on Opera I cannot, it refuses to zoom out that far.
It also seems to take longer to load the page (using Wi-fi), regardless of the Opera Turbo setting. This might just be someone else in the house using the connection at the same time as me though.
I'll give it a go later and maybe post back my findings. Opera Mobile on Symbian and Windows mobile were very good and i'd tried Opera Mini on some dumbphones as well and it worked well. I hadn't tried Opera Mini for Android as I didn't like the idea of only being restricted to using Opera's proxies (I assume that was the only option).
Opera Mobile 10.1 Beta for Android direct link from Opera or pick a version yourself over here.
No flash integration.... sigh.
Idan73 said:
What I like the most is reflow on pinch to zoom same way as on my nexus modded aosp stock used to be. Very familiar as symbian user as well.
No flash yet. Hope it comes.
Available on market now!!!
Also for those not familiar with the opera you can change opera user agent by opera:config menu (many other settings as well like cache, ram management etc.). User agent 2 will give you desktop and will auto launch youtube app so it's still better quality than what you get by default on mobile site as a consultation for not having full flash.
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I really was interested in having the youtube app playback youtube videos instead of the stock player. i changed the user agent to 2 as you describe above and it didnt work. i tried clearing cache, cookies, etc and restarting my phone. i have a htc droid eris running 2.1. can you provide more details on how you were able to get the youtube app to launch automatically from opera mobile?
thanks in advance.
Sorry seems web ignores uset agent string right now but if you go to bottom of youtube page and select full site next time you launch opera it will remember it and launch app respectively.
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Thanks for trying, but it didnt work for me. it must have somethign to do with the url on youtube. It tried to launch the youtube player as you indicated but i got an error that it couldnt connect to the server.
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I really was interested in having the youtube app playback youtube videos instead of the stock player. i changed the user agent to 2 as you describe above and it didnt work. i tried clearing cache, cookies, etc and restarting my phone. i have a htc droid eris running 2.1. can you provide more details on how you were able to get the youtube app to launch automatically from opera mobile?
thanks in advance.
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Set it to whichever string you want from "User Prefs" -> "Custom User Agent"
Opera Mobile is the first browser to actually challenge the stock one for mobile browsing supremacy.
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Set it to whichever string you want from "User Prefs" -> "Custom User Agent"
Opera Mobile is the first browser to actually challenge the stock one for mobile browsing supremacy.
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I tired string 2 as discussed above but it didnt work. i am a bit of a noob, so can you go through the exact settings when i do about:config? is there an index of what user agents the numbers correspond to? for example, when i use skyfire, the videos launch just fine in the youtube app. however, i agree with you abotu opera mobile and this is the only thing i need to be all set.
thanks in advance
I know dolphin browser HD and skyfire have options to change the user agent in the settings but some sites that I have tried force the mobile version anyways. With that said, is there any method of fully spoofing the user agent to desktop? Any help is greatly appreciated.
"Open your browser, enter "about:debug" (without quotes )into the address bar, then hit the "Go" button on your keyboard—don't tap the search/URL suggestion that comes up. You'll notice that the browser now does, well, nothing. But hit your Menu key, choose the "More" option, then select Settings. Scroll down some, and you'll see a new collection of advanced options there, including a "UAString" option. Click that, then choose between Android, desktop, or iPhone user strings to change what browser web sites think you're visiting with. "
SELECT "DESKTOP"
Try this and see if it works for you.
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OP is using Dolphin and Skyfire browsers, which don't need about:debug for UA spoofing.
I could be wrong but I remember reading somewhere that some sites are able to use your installed Flash player to determine that you're not using a desktop browser. I think there was a modified Flash player that worked around that to allow you to view sites like Hulu, but I don't know where one could download it. Maybe search the forums for Hulu Flash player?
Good luck!
Has anyone else noticed that since the ICS update, none of the web browsers display in true "desktop" mode on certain sites? With Dolphin HD browser running under HC, ESPN and Engadget displayed the full, unmodified versions of the websites. Since the ICS upgrade, ESPN displays the default as the "Tablet Version" and Engadget is the mobile version. I've checked the settings in Dolphon and everything appears to be normal. I've even tried this with Skyfire, Chrome and Browser+, and none of them display every site in true desktop mode.
Can someone check out ESPN or Engadget and let me know if they are experiencing the same thing? I've done several Google searchs for similar problems with other devices, and found nothing.
Thanks in advance!
chrome has to choose "view mode in computer"
I've just checked Engadget here are my results:
Opera - User Agent Desktop. Loading Desktop version
ICS Browser+ - User Agent Desktop. Loading mobile version (it has option to switch to desktop view on the bottom of page, but then has big blue button on top "Back to mobile version")
Stock Browser - No option for user agent.Same as ICS Browser+
I have noticed a few od things with Dolphin HD and the Chrome Beta, but that was on the .012 leak. I have not tried the 014 release yet. I'm charging my tablet and will be flashing it today. I'll try some of the browsers and see what I get. The best way to check this would probably be to hit your own home page and run a CGI that reads http refers and see what it reports for user agent and OS.
I only really notice this on chrome, dolphin browser and stock browser work fine for me
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Dolphin had some issues with flash videos in full screen. That's the only issue I ran into with it. The tablet beta wouldn't even run though
Browser rendering problems
Both the default ICS browser and Dolphin have difficulty rendering some Web sites. Sometimes objects like check boxes overwrite text so it is hard to select the check box or enter a password. I assume this is due to trying to cram the page into a small screen.
I also have noticed a few sites that seem to want to go to the mobile view, even when I select desktop view. But I don't see it as often as I did in HC.
Does anyone know how to make the browser default to Desktop? There's nothing I want to see in mobile view.
Type "about:debug" without the quotes in the address bar of the browser and hit go. A message about java will show up on the top. Click it and ignore any errors. Now hit menu and settings. there will be a new option called debug. Click it and go to uastring change it to desktop. Restart the browser and your done. You might need to reboot not sure
Thanks.. That worked great until I rebooted. Youtube still went to the mobile site. I went back to the java menu and the agent was still checked desktop. Works fine as long as the java script console is on.. Might have to use another browser..
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Thanks.. That worked great until I rebooted. Youtube still went to the mobile site. I went back to the java menu and the agent was still checked desktop. Works fine as long as the java script console is on.. Might have to use another browser..
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I know on htc devices using about:debug was only good for that browsing session. You'd have to redo it anytime you close then reopen browser. You could try to set your homepage to about:debug to make it a little easier, but the browser would have to be modded to force it to keep those settingd. Its on my list of things I want to do but will likely be quite a while before I get to it. Search the forum for browser UAstring mod. You may find something that can help. I know some htc roms had it, not sure about samsung though.
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Use a different browser. Maybe dolphin or xscope or firefox.
I guess I'll use Opera, it works just fine and the desktop agent stays. I liked the stock browser and got used to it. Oh well, no problem.