Getting back to Square One - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

SO, i'm selling my Evo
I've been searching through the forums a bit, and I cant seem to find the most up-to-date stock ROM and radio.
could someone please help me in this matter? ALSO, I had a snap kernel installed with turbo enabled with CM7, but when i flashed a new ROM i left the radio alone. could this be the reason for my extreme battery drain?
[none of that noob battery stuff, no sync, gtalk, data disabled. Literally my battery drains at an alarming rate. Extended battery also.]
PLEASE help with these issues, they are beginning to become a real problem for me.
thanks in advance

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[Q] AARRGGH!....Battery on my Evo stinks!

Configuring this thing for good battery life is exhausting. Before root I had done most things listed in this thread : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/tweaks-for-superb-battery-life-in-evo/ and finally achieved pretty good battery life.
After root, I have never been able to achieve this even though the bloatware isnt running, have various tweaks on there for performance, and so on.
Have tried Fresh Rom with stock and Kings #11 and liked it but had terrible battery life. Tried Myn's 2.2 with stock, Kings #11, and Netarchy and battery was not much better. Now running AVA9 (no flashed kernel) and battery is no better. Have tried running setCPU on all these setups and does not help.
Any suggestions? Seems someone will say this rom/kernel combo works for them and another person will say it sucks, don't use it.
I couldn't stick with Myn's because there were too many bugs/errors. If my best bet is to go back to all HTC stock rom w/root then so be it.
.....and yes, I have read through the numerous amount of threads on this topic but no clear combination has been highlighted that I have seen. I use my phone for business primarily so it needs to last me as long as possible. The thought of increasing my phone size with an extended battery is not appealing to me.
I have stock rooted 3.29. I initially did the plug-unplug trick when I got the phone. Then, I turned off always on data, and set email, google accounts, and Sense weather widget to update once an hour. Phone behaves the same as when data is always on, so I don't even notice 3G off when the screen is off.
I get 8 - 10 hours under very heavy use (constant fiddling, email, games, internet, calls, etc),
10 - 15 hours moderate (surfing, ebooks, email, internet),
and easily 18+ with light use (email, occasional light surfing, occasional call)
I have everything the same as before root so with the bloatware and some other things not running would think it would last longer than stock......not!
@greyopaque...what was the reasoning for using stock rom instead of custom? Battery life or just never tried any of the others? Would like to know if your battery life is better with just the stock over others.
Ditto....I am a heavy user and leave everything running that I need. I use the phone for what it was made for. After trying/not trying all different types of roms/battery tweaks/advanced task killers/battery monitors etc., I decided to buy another original red 1500 battery as I don't like the extended battery look either. So, until they come with better battery technology....I guess that would be the career to go into and make some money ;0).....we are stuck with the best phone ever...yet....with a battery life that sucks for those of us that put the phone to the test....have a great day!
Yep...only problem is having to shut the phone off, change battery, then power back on. All the while, missing whatever phone calls come in.
***My point of the thread really isn't the terrible stock battery but the fact that the pre-rooted setup lasted so much longer than the rooted w/custom rom. Why??
I would think the battery life would get better without all the bloatware and other worthless services running all the time.
Once again.. you need to check your apps. Most likely there's something causing a drain.. Try updating to the newest rooted stock roms (3.30). The new kernel is definitely an improvement.
As an aside.. what bugs did you have with myn's 2.2 rls2? I ran it, and it was fine. Now on rls3 beta and amazing rom with great battery (3.30 base).
To be honest, I've never tried anything else. I really like the stock Sense experience... and since this is a work phone, I need it to work without glitches.
CCallahan said:
@greyopaque...what was the reasoning for using stock rom instead of custom? Battery life or just never tried any of the others? Would like to know if your battery life is better with just the stock over others.
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Well....hopefully I can hear from some peeps that have used a good amount of custom roms/kernels, as well as the stock one and see what they think.
Cmon guys....let me know!
@eyeballer1......Myn's was just acting weird and I kept getting a "com.htc.bgp" force close that I couldn't fix. Also, I have tried the newest stock rom but it is just so darn plain jane didn't keep it on long enough to test it. As for apps, I have basically the same apps on my phone that I had before root (except for specific root apps such as rom manager, titanium, etc).
1Brite1 said:
Ditto....I am a heavy user and leave everything running that I need. I use the phone for what it was made for. After trying/not trying all different types of roms/battery tweaks/advanced task killers/battery monitors etc., I decided to buy another original red 1500 battery as I don't like the extended battery look either. So, until they come with better battery technology....I guess that would be the career to go into and make some money ;0).....we are stuck with the best phone ever...yet....with a battery life that sucks for those of us that put the phone to the test....have a great day!
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Sadly they won't.. That is battery technology.. This world is pretty much stuck where its at and will probably stay there.. Its the one thing that is not progressing that much.. Even from the 50's
That said.. the thicker battery is the way to go.. Only you will know its thicker, and trust me.. ITS NOT THAT BAD! Believe it or not you get used to it.. If its for business, well then a thicker battery should not bother you at all, use it during the day and maybe at night switch back to the smaller one.. You know, for the dates and ****
The thicker battery will be a life savior.. All these battery tricks and tips help, but nothing is going to be mind blowing.. The fact is, this phone is extremely advanced and requires a lot of power.. I just except the fact that I need to be close to a power charger at most times..
I might go ahead and try Myn's new beta with 3.30 and see what happens. Looks as though I need to look deep into what is actually using my battery. I have always used K-9 for email and have heard it sucks up battery, but it only uses about 2% on mine and is the best email app I have ever found.
@fastfed......I'll have to ask my wife if I can go on a date sometime.
what helped me the most was wiping battery stats correctly (as per cyanogen wiki, but applies to all roms).
Charge to full, turn off, wipe battery stats. Turn back on, wait till everythings loaded, unplug. Use as normal until battery dies (do not charge at all until battery dies). Recharge fully in one go (meaning do not unplug while charging until full). Use and charge as normal.
This should be done whenever flashing new rom.
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I also use k9 for mail. As I use Hotmail not Gmail.. is it really that bad? Anything else out there ?
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The biggest positive jump I have seen in regards to battery life was going from Cm6 to 3.29 ruu stock, then I ur3 to root.
I'm still sceptical that the 3.30 zip update gave any improvement to battery life as I have seen others report. In fact, I almost wonder if I somehow have less battery life now, but it could be in my head. It's almost impossible to approach this issue scientifically since I use this evo all day.
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Try bakedsnack 1.8, its the best battery life I've seen on a rom w/o having to make all these stupid tweeks and disabling features on ur phone.
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I'm gettin great battery life using vaelpak 2.3 with the stock htc kernel. I imagine most of the custom kernels around are based off of older kernels and while they may have higher "performance" ratings though I have hardly been able to tell a difference between kings 11 or baked speed and battery, I think the newer stock kernel is your best choice no set cpu to worry about, its just simple. I'm personally gettin about 14 hours with almost constant music playing to bluetooth headset, a bunch of browsing, and occasional use of google navigation which is a big battery eater. With just phone and text use after 21 hours I was at 52% yesterday.
ok so i have literally flashed every major rom / kernel and a comination of each. I have found that with minor tweaking most sense based roms get close to the same battery life. some people will argue that this or that rom is best but I would challenge others to truely preform a test on them and i bet they would be suprised.
k-9 is only a battery hog if you have it constantly polling for new emails if you have it set up to scan constantly then it will take a reasonable about of battery life but nothing more then most other email apps with the same settings.
have you tried as was lsited above and recalibrating your battery? I am assuming you are a pretty heavy user from the sound of things. How long where you getting pre root and how long are you now getting rooted? do you have titanium back up set up on a schedule? If so that can cause major battery drain as it sometimes keeps your phone awake.
All in all with the information you provided no one can actually tell you what is wrong. there are to many variabes and everything we say is a shot in the dark hoping to hit common problems.
my best recomendation configure your battery stats as listed above, if you havent tried use the HTC trick (chrage battery for 8 hours turn off phone charge for 1 hour turn on phone unplug it or 2 minutes then turn it off and charge for another hour.)
Anytime you wipe data you wipe your batary stats and it can drasitally impact your phones "battery life".
At this point I'm not so sure my battery or charging device on the phone isn't defective. But, only time will tell.
Currently I am running the newest, non-beta Myn TwoPointTwo and Netarchy 4.2 non-havs. I also ran this procedure (which fachadick already suggested):
1. Phone on...charge until green light comes on. Immediately unplug and turn phone off.
2. Plug phone back in until green light comes on again. Immediately boot into Recovery and wipe battery stats.
3. Use the phone on battery until dies.
4. recharge phone to 100%
I'm still on step 3. Will report back after a few days.
I had never heard of doing this when switching roms so hopefully it will help since I have swapped out a good amount lately.
Does anyone know where to get the newest HTC flashable kernel based on the new 3.30 release? All I have found is the rom package.

[Q] Cyanogen 7 radio battery drain

I installed CM7 last night and I'm experiencing high radio battery drain. I love the rom but in a few hours of light usage and I'm down 17% battery. I've also tried rmk40's patch and same problem. Anyone have any solution for the drain?
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I hope someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that flashing a new rom like CM7 does not change your radio, so it's probably not a radio issue. If I were you, I'd fully charge it, reboot into clockwork recovery, and wipe the battery stats under "advanced". Then drain the battery all the way, and recharge it again fully to recalibrate the battery. See if that helps.
I have the same kind of issues, similar setup. What patch are you talking about? I haven't seen one.
Seems anything radio related INSANELY drains my battery. I don't remember eating my entire battery just because of text messaging quite as badly as I do these days, it's ridiculous. I sure wish there was a definitive answer in the radio and RIL files debate lol.
Anytime you flash a new ROM on your phone, you should let it bake for a couple days before making judgement of battery life, performance, etc etc. I admit I don't always do that myself, but to be fair to the developer you should let your phone get accustomed to the new ROM and/or radio. Give it a 2 or 3 days and let us know if battery life improves or not for you.
I am running cyanogen 7 and my radio signal is very weak now. Is there a way to update the radio? Sorry for the dumb question but I've been reading for 2 days now with no luck. I'm probably not looking in the right places. Thanks for your time.
middlefieldpimpin said:
I am running cyanogen 7 and my radio signal is very weak now. Is there a way to update the radio? Sorry for the dumb question but I've been reading for 2 days now with no luck. I'm probably not looking in the right places. Thanks for your time.
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Its actually most likely the same signal strength, just cm7 and sense builds show it differently. You may show 1 bar on cm7 and 2 on a sense build.
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Always flash at 100% battery status first. Then use your phone at least 4 days. So with 2 complete drainages and charges. Only after that you can judge if a certain rom is draining or not. O and your radio is NOT changing after you installed a CM7 nightly. This is mentioned a zillion times here. I almost posted the famous quote "If you were to string these posts in a ......."

[Q] Synergy Battery life and App issues

Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
AmericanAlien said:
Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
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jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
AmericanAlien said:
Hey folks!
I have the EVO 004 Supersonic. I love flashing my Android, and do it constantly. I am having issues with Synergy RC1 that just went live. My battery is draining fast, and I mean in an hour maybe two, I have to charge it. That is just being on idle, not being used. Drains much faster if I use it. I flashed back to my original image (stock) and the battery lasts longer. So I flashed Mik, and it lasted longer and I flashed CyanogenMod and that sucker lasted longer, but I LOVE the way Syngery looks and flows. But I cannot get the battery to last longer. So I thought maybe apps were running that are not supposed to, so I use my favorite app killer and the apps keep popping up, they are driving me nuts. Why the hell are they restarting? I want them stopped and NOT to reactivate. Is this an issue with anyone else, because I really do not want to get rid of this ROM. Also, yes, I cleared the Battery stats as well. Still fast drain.
Oh, one more thing, I cannot OVERCLOCK the damn thing either. So, those are my issues, cannot get apps to stay shut off (force close even), Battery is dying super fast and cannot get it to stay charged longer than two ours. Oh, and I already checked my battery with Sprint, battery is good, and they even gave me a SECOND one, and it still drains fast. Please advise.
Thanks for listening folks, and I appreciate any help. I love this site and has helped me NUMEROUS times, but I finally had post my own specific issue as I have never dealt with this before nor found anything that can help.
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First, Synergy runs on HTCs stock kernel, they havent released the source code for the kernel yet, so there are no custom kernels for any evo 2.3 rom, so you cant overclock, or get the awesome battery life we usually get from custom kernels.
Now the battery draining is usually the radios. Right now I have wakelock on my phone running synergy, but I dont wanna mess with my radios, you would have to try different radio/pri combos until you find the right combo.
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cg 112358 said:
jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
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I use task killers because I can kill all tasks at once instead of individually. I would like to be able to close apps I am not using as well. But they keep popping up. I know now the overclock does not work with gingerbread, but man, I got a lot of misinformation.
I appreciate your help, I will try the battery saving tips, but if it is about letting the phone die, erasing battery logs and then charging it and then making the green light stay on when first plugged in and other stuff like that, I have tried it to no avail. I just flashed another ROM and the battery is FINE! It is so damn frustrating. I see others with great battery life. I just cannot get mine to do it.
cg 112358 said:
jeez...dead in 2 hours...and being idle?! that sux. i was running Synergy for a while and didnt have THAT bad of battery life (i maybe had 7-8 hrs before it needed to be charged again)
and of course you cant overclock yet...the kernel doesnt support it! it's still the stock kernel that came with the OTA...HTC still hasn't released the source code for the kernel so no custom "gingersense" kernels for us just yet (i.e. no HAVS, sbc, overclocking, etc.)
try some of the battery saving tips that Myn links to in the 2nd post of the Synergy thread...maybe that will help
question for you: why are you using an app/task killer!?!?!?! Android has one built in already [MENU >> SETTINGS >> APPLICATIONS >> RUNNING SERVICES (or MANAGE APPLICATIONS)] that could also be a reason your battery life is crappy (i really hate task killers so that last line might be biased lol but seriously...android does have it built it)
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Well, you guys probably will not believe this, but I got my battery to last a looooong time! I was messing with my battery options and decided to turn OFF the battery saving option it gives (enable power saver). I rebooted the phone charged it fully and then took it off the charger, BAM! Being FULLY charged it went down one percent after being on for 40 minutes. That is much better than I was getting on my stock and other roms. I just love this dang rom. Now, if I could only overclock the darn thing. So I have had the EVO on for 2 hours and 10mins and the battery says 97%, sweet. Anywho, battery issue is solved, loved it. Has this been mentioned before? Turning off the battery saver to save on battery? LOL. It probably has and I must have been to frustrated to absorb that info. Thanks for your help!
Battery saver...
I, too, was having draining issues on my Synergy-ROMed Evo. I could WATCH the battery drain. But I turned off the "battery saver" in power prefs and it's HOLDING STEADY! I'll report back if this doesn't turn out to be the cure I was hoping for, but it's definitely worth a try.
Now if I could just get this GPS to stop rebooting my phone...

[Q] Big battery issue

Hi everyone,
first of all I wanna makes it clear. I've searched all over this forums (and others) and I couldn't find a similar case to mine.
I own a HTC One X (Carrier: Orange, Country: Spain, CID: ORANG309). I'm running ARHD 9.7.2 by mike1986 and the EternityProject kernel 3.4.0 v0.99b OC at 1.6GHz (Quad-core).
My battery life is really really poor. I know you cannot expect the One X to last for 24 hours on a regular use, but I'm talking about leaving home at 7AM and having to charge it by 1PM or so. How do I use my One X? The most I do is Gtalk, Gmail, Whatsapp, Facebook and Web. Then from time to time I might use Maps or Music (1 hour tops during those 6 hours that my battery lasts).
I got my screen brightness set to lowest, even I did set my data connection to only GSM.
I run Better Battery Stats, nothing suspicious to me. I also monitor the battery current. Here's where I can see some values that don't seem right to me, but I might be wrong. Even when charging (AC), I see negatives peaks (relatively high negative peaks), when I guess I shouldn't be seeing those as I'm charging my phone. When those peaks appear I'm not stressing my phone, I can be using just Whatsapp and see them appear. When not charging, I also see those peaks and I don't really know if they're supposed to be there. I rarely use GPS or overload my phone with lots of webs or apps running at the same time.
I would appreciate some kinda help or advise, don't really know what's wrong with it, I just expected my battery to last a little bit more from what I read out there.
Could be ROM? Could be kernel?
Thank you very very much.
Roger
I also usually get my battery drained while charging (AC). I'm really worried about this.
P.D.: I did the HTC Battery test (*#*#3424#*#*) and I passed it.
I recommend that you flash a stock Rom and kernel for the time being . It could be kernel related most likely. Try changing the kernel to stock and test the battery. Also it could be several background apps that might be running which suck your battery like Skype or steam etc etc .anyways hope you find the solution. Cheers
Skydragon Team
skywalker1162 said:
I recommend that you flash a stock Rom and kernel for the time being . It could be kernel related most likely. Try changing the kernel to stock and test the battery. Also it could be several background apps that might be running which suck your battery like Skype or steam etc etc .anyways hope you find the solution. Cheers
Skydragon Team
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Thanks, will try that and post if any improvements have been made. Is it okay to flash ARHD 9.7.2 ICS with its stock kernel? Or should I go back to my original RUU?

[Q] CM 10.1.2 Terrible Battery Life?

Hello,
I have had Cyanogenmod 10.1.2 for awhile now and i have only had one issue. My battery life has gone down dramatically compared to the stock touchwiz rom. I usually take my phone to school on standby and airplane mode and i loose about 20% in 3 hours. If I use the stock rom I loose about 4-7% in 3 hours. I looked in the battery settings and it said Screen, Google Play Services, and Cell standby took up the most. I'm thinking it's the kernel but I do not want to take the chance of flashing a new one. If there is any other solution please let me know.
hmaster1332 said:
Hello,
I have had Cyanogenmod 10.1.2 for awhile now and i have only had one issue. My battery life has gone down dramatically compared to the stock touchwiz rom. I usually take my phone to school on standby and airplane mode and i loose about 20% in 3 hours. If I use the stock rom I loose about 4-7% in 3 hours. I looked in the battery settings and it said Screen, Google Play Services, and Cell standby took up the most. I'm thinking it's the kernel but I do not want to take the chance of flashing a new one. If there is any other solution please let me know.
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you might need to re calibrate your battery.
also, check if you have any wake locks using better battery stats.
Here's a recent thread where they are working on similar issues. Won't be exact to your situation but may help you to track it down on your own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517494
Also, in the stickies, I suggest you read Woody's battery thread for a better understanding of some common issues and power saving tricks.
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ayeitschris said:
you might need to re calibrate your battery.
also, check if you have any wake locks using better battery stats.
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I am not familiar with this, can you please explain how to do this?
DocHoliday77 said:
Here's a recent thread where they are working on similar issues. Won't be exact to your situation but may help you to track it down on your own.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2517494
Also, in the stickies, I suggest you read Woody's battery thread for a better understanding of some common issues and power saving tricks.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk
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Thank you for this info. I am reading through it right now and i have found some interesting things. I will let you know if I have a question.
hmaster1332 said:
Hello,
I have had Cyanogenmod 10.1.2 for awhile now and i have only had one issue. My battery life has gone down dramatically compared to the stock touchwiz rom. I usually take my phone to school on standby and airplane mode and i loose about 20% in 3 hours. If I use the stock rom I loose about 4-7% in 3 hours. I looked in the battery settings and it said Screen, Google Play Services, and Cell standby took up the most. I'm thinking it's the kernel but I do not want to take the chance of flashing a new one. If there is any other solution please let me know.
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If you are putting the phone in Airplane mode, make sure the Location Services are off.
using themes and live wallpaper also is bad for battery. really bad!
i installed CM10.2 on my old Samsung Captivate and gave to my mom to use. Turned everything off and I'm getting excellent battery life. She gets 4-5 hours of talk time and still has 70+% at the end of the day.

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