Hey there guys, This is my first post on the forums, i have been reading some stuff unregistered and today i decided hey lets register.
so, what i wanted to ask you guys is the following.
I have been interested in whether i should root my HTC Desire HD so i could flash a custom ROM, i found many reasons why i should do this as most reasons appeal to my Desire of the phone( LOL, My Desire of My Desire HD ).
But i cant help noticing after reading quite alot of posts on different forums/sites that most people tend not to think befor they do this.
So basically, my question really is; What do i need to do should there be a reason in the near future for me to have the original Vodafone software on the phone?
Although i have read some stuff about how-to go back to your stocks but i couldnt find anything related specifically to the Desire HD, i read that you will need a RUU, which will be english, and i was also wondering will this work for a Vodafone Branded device from the Netherlands? Could any one tell me what i should do about this aswell?
Here is some information i have noted just incase it might be needed;
KERNEL VERSION 2.6.32.2
BUILD NUMBER 1.75.161.2 CL301245 release-keys
SOFTWARE NUMBER 1.75.161.2
I hope you guys understand that i take this quite serious and therefor i wanted to ask you rather than do and think afterwards!
P.S. if you need more information, let me know!
Thanks in advance!
/ENZ-
To root and S-OFF properly I recommend to follow only the guides in XDA-Developers. I have made a few myself, you can start with my downgrade guide.
My radio S-OFF tool's thread contains information on how to go back to stock. You will need a RUU, follow this link to get it. The Vodafone UK RUU should be just fine.
The only reason why you would want to go to stock is a warranty case. It is not completely necessary though, as there is nothing about software mods in warranty terms. In simple english, rooting and custom ROMs do not void your warranty. It is still best to make your device stock if you intend to return it.
jkoljo said:
To root and S-OFF properly I recommend to follow only the guides in XDA-Developers. I have made a few myself, you can start with my downgrade guide.
My radio S-OFF tool's thread contains information on how to go back to stock. You will need a RUU, follow "******* to get it. The Vodafone UK RUU should be just fine.
The only reason why you would want to go to stock is a warranty case. It is not completely necessary though, as there is nothing about software mods in warranty terms. In simple english, rooting and custom ROMs do not void your warranty. It is still best to make your device stock if you intend to return it.
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Thanks for the reply mate, yes ofcourse the only reason i could think of why i should go back to stock is indeed for warranty issues, but still its nice to know how-to even though it might not be needed, i'd rather be prepared for it.
So basically rooting is the first phase, but i read on some guides here at XDA that i should delete HTC Sync and HTC Driver, i did uninstall sync but i cant find HTC driver, how can i uninstall HTC driver?
P.S. why advice the UK one above the WWE? does it matter whether im from The Netherlands in this case?
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Because Vodaphone might think something is wrong if they find a WWE ROM from a phone with their own branding.
Ok.. What exactly have you been reading?? You are definitely not supposed to delete the driver and sync, you have to have those. I have to make a correction to my last reply, you should only read the guides in Desire HD section, I thought that it was obvious..
Ah yeah i just read that on xda but i think it wasnt related to the DHD.. so i actually made a crucial error, i didnt delete the driver though but i did delete sync, i think the only thing i could do now is to reset the phone to factory defaults to get it back, right?
P.S. dont blame your self mate, its my fault, i should have waited for your reply befor doing research of my own.
EDIT:
I can use sync from the computer after i connect it with my USB cable, everything works so far
But will i be able to root/flash my device in this state?
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jkoljo said:
Because Vodaphone might think something is wrong if they find a WWE ROM from a phone with their own branding.
Ok.. What exactly have you been reading?? You are definitely not supposed to delete the driver and sync, you have to have those. I have to make a correction to my last reply, you should only read the guides in Desire HD section, I thought that it was obvious..
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Oke i got HTC sync back and working again, so im over that problem now.
Next is S-OFF and rooting, right?
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Hey guys, first time poster here and a bit of a newb to rooting, Android and smart-phones in general.
I've been hanging on these forums the past 3 months researching the rooting process for a Desire and all the relevant stuff that goes along with it. So please go easy on me. I've also read all the 'similar threads' suggested to me at post-time.
I'm almost ready to begin the process but there's a few bits of information that's got me pretty scared before I go ahead. I wasn't able to find much of a concrete answer/s to these questions, from Googling around.
Well without further ado.
What is the difference between GSM & CDMA and do I need to know which my phone is before proceeding?
If I DO need to know, how do I find this out?
My phone is branded (Orange splash-screen at boot) and locked to Orange network (Newly recieved contract phone).
I've heard that I may need a goldcard to proceed with the Unrevoked process due to the branding. Is this correct?
Another guide on the net (can provide link if necessary), mentions upgrading the radio on Orange phones can permanently break the wifi OR permanently simlock your phone.
Will I need to worry about this during the Unrevoked rooting process? And will this be avoidable after installing a custom rom. (If I get that far )
I read somewhere on these forums (I forgot where exactly), something about the newest Orange OTA update causing problems with the rooting process. Is this still the case or has Unrevoked been updated to avoid that now? Also, how can I check if I have that update?
I can provide all the information about my Hboot, radio and kernel versions etc, if you need it (I guess you will), but for some reason, I keep getting a spam warning as this is my first post. I can only assume the version numbers are being interpreted as IPs...
Well sorry for the wall of text, but I greatly appreciate any help I can get regarding these issues. I'm so scared of bricking my Desire and not being able to return it, if bricking does occur.
Yours a worried root newb!
1. We use GSM phones in the UK as we use SIM cards. CDMA phones don't use SIM cards and are locked/released to one network
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
3. This was the case a while back but I'd wait for confirmation before changing it
4. No as the radio isn't flashed during a ROM (unless stated in the ROM thread that it does)
5. Shouldn't be an issue, just get the latest version of unrEVOked from their website before starting
Great, that's most of my questions/concerns answered. Although the below answer has brought a new question to the front
EddyOS said:
2. You don't need a gold card to root, no. As there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty you will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU. Best to make one before starting
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Unfortunately my knowledge of RUU is almost non-existant, other than that it stands for Rom Upgrade Utility and is used to upgrade the software on my phone? Right?
And forgive me if I'm being dumb here but, if
EddyOS said:
there isn't an Orange RUU available to go back to stock for warranty
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and yet I
EddyOS said:
will need one to flash a non-Orange RUU
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then how can I do this? Or am I totally misunderstanding you?
Do I somehow use an application without root permission to perform a procedure similar to hdd ghosting?
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM. To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
It's the same for me, if (for some strange reason) I'd want to flash a branded ROM on my Desire I'd need a gold card. Thankfully, I have an unbranded handset so I can get the stock RUU and use it without a gold card
EddyOS said:
Basically, if you wanted to return to stock for any reason you wouldn't be able to go back to the Orange ROM as the RUU doesn't exist so you'd have to go to a generic ROM.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
I have been flashing ROM's since I got my phone rooted last year and I have never bothered to S-OFF. It's not a requirement.
I have tried a number of ROM's (it becomes a bit addictive!) there is not normally a need to flash a new radio, just leave it be. If you are worried about it and the ROM requires a new radio don't flash it. There are plenty to choose from.
As for recommendations, everyone has their own tastes and likes. That's the beauty of modding. Just flash a few ROM's and see which you like. I have tried most of them, stuck with MIUI for ages, but am now on Cyanogenmod 7 Nightly's.
There is nothing to really worry about. There is a remote chance of bricking your phone for a start, like 0.0000000001% chance. Only way of doing it is disconnecting during say an S-Off.
As for the Orange issue. I had a locked, Orange Desire with 2.2 on it (the first update) and when I rooted and S-Off'd I had no problems. I also have updated my radio to 5.14.05.17 and have no issues at all. To be honest, I found issues to do with signals and Wi-Fi are to do with the ROM you install and the kernel as well which can be frustrating but fun as well.
As for choosing a ROM, choose one, flash it then see what it's like. It's purely down to what you like most about each ROM. I've been through so many ROMs in the past few months but now I am sort of staying with 1 ROM. I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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So basically if I were to screw it up, which I hopefully won't, I'm buggered as far as getting my phone fixed cos they'll see the Orange rom is no longer installed? Not too fussed about that, as I'm super-careful with my phone.
I guess my next issue would be, after rooting using Unrevoked, I'd need to gain S-OFF right? Which I understand is done via AlphaRev. Only issue there would be related to this
"Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files." If I'm reverting to a stock rom, while gaining S-OFF presumably there's a high chance that'd upgrade my radio - a potentially very bad thing.
THEN I go about choosing a rom to flash. Then Nandroid backup. Then flash the rom, hopefully love it and voila?
Also, what would you suggest as a good rom for someone like me just starting out with a fully rooted phone? I was thinking one of the official builds to lose all the crap, but then the above issue of the radio creeps up again...
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Don't bother about S-OFF at the moment, you don't need it. Just get rooted and then look into custom ROMs for now
Ok I've taken a tiny step further forward. I'm at the point of making a goldcard but one thing concerns me... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710085&postcount=3 According to that it won't work with the 2.2 OTA update from HTC.
I know, I have 2.2 installed but this was already on the phone when I received it, so I've no idea if this was an OTA or not... So I guess I need a different method to make a goldcard now?
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/software/308798/pc-application-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
Hmmm tried using that tool and no joy... Get my img file downloaded, but then the tool refuses to recognise my phone, despite doing the appropriate change over to 'disk drive'. I tried re-plugging the un-mounting and re-plugging the usb cable. Still no joy.
I'm beginning to lose hope here... That tool won't work and the tutorial here says it's incompatible with 2.2...
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Been Googling around a fair bit and I can't find any information at all on downgrading a branded 2.2. Only information on people with branded handsets wanting to update to 2.2.
After a bit more searching, I found someone else with the exact same issue as me. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10370443&postcount=977
Only one difference though. He doesn't mention if he managed to flash a custom rom after his root. I'm guessing he probably wouldn't have been able to going by your post:
EddyOS said:
To flash any ROM other than the originally on the phone you need a gold card
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A gold card is only needed to flash a STOCK ROM different from your original - it's not needed to flash a custom ROM. The gold card isn't even needed to root. It's just handy to have in your case as you'd need it to go back to stock due to the lack of an Orange RUU
I'm out of ideas I'm afraid, never had to deal with a gold card as I'm unbranded
Use this:
http://android.modaco.com/content/so...-goldcardtool/
Probably need to register to get the file, though
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Does that work a lot better then?
I used the method posted by thetasigma3 and I can't get OTA 2.29.405.5 but I can get 2.29.405.2. To get round the problem I installed the 2.29.405.5 RUU and rooted
Anyone who's debranded will need to use the RUU as the OTA won't go through
GoogleJelly said:
I will say that when I installed a custom ROM, I had to pay to unlock my sim because it was being gay and Orange wanted £20 of my hard earned cash to unlock it and send it off. So be prepared.
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Call me crazy, but why the heck would flashing a custom rom require you to unlock and send off? Presumably the sending off thing would've been for Orange to perform the unlock procedure?
Anyway, back to my main issue, I know I've probably tread the same ground a few times now, but I really don't wanna end up bricking, cos I overlooked a tiny element, or something.
Could someone confirm I have these points all correct please?
Goldcard NOT needed for rooting.
Goldcard NOT needed if/when I flash a custom rom.
Goldcard needed if I wanted to go back to a STOCK rom.
Only reason to flash a STOCK rom is if I need to send back to Orange for repairs etc.
Oh and thanks for the clarification on your earlier post EddyOS. About goldcards not being needed for custom roms as opposed to stock etc.
Think I'm ready to go ahead with the process now, but if I go ahead and something goes wrong, what's my safety net, so to speak? Presumably my battery would die on me long before I get a response here
What you have there is correct (point 2-5)
The unlocking issue was down to some radios causing Orange handsets to become SIM locked. If you're using an Orange SIM this isn't an issue but others who got an Orange handset but use a different SIM card found they wouldn't work.
This was earlier in the Desire's life and I don't think it's applicable now
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
Ok finally got the guts together to go ahead and run unRevoked. (Already had done the driver steps etc).
I've checked with an app from the Android Market, called 'Root Check' to verify root access. That's saying I do have it and it also asked for Root permissions on start-up, which it never did before root. So I assume that's a good sign. I also checked for the 'Superuser Permissions' app in my apps menu. Found it was present and clicked it. Started without any problems. So I guess that's another good sign.
So I guess my next set of questions are reasonable simple.
Does this seem like my phone is now 100% rooted? I think it is, but I could be wrong.
Do I need to install Busybox? Root Checker seems to like seeing it there.
Does it matter if I use Titanium Backup Pro or free? I'm guessing it won't but I'd like to be certain.
If I backup my current Orange rom with Titanium Backup will I be able to go back to that without a goldcard? My guess is no. I didn't make or use one for the root process.
1. Yes
2. For Titanium Backup, yes
3. No
4. You don't backup the ROM with TB, you boot into Recovery and do it there
kvphani said:
Try using "GoldCard Helper" app from Android Market, in case you want to try and make a goldcard (as the other methods did not work for you).
As mentioned as EddyOS, all your points from 2 - 5 are correct.
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Hey man, I downloaded that app and found a fairly easy looking guide on the Unlockr http://theunlockr.com/2010/03/10/how-to-create-a-goldcard/ . Just wanted to check, if I use that app plus this guide. I skip steps 1-6 right?
Ok gone ahead and done that now. Just having some trouble finding instructions on backing up my Orange rom.
Oh and now that the forum won't grumble at my phone info, here it is. Hopefully that'll shed some more light on my situation, if I need further help.
BRAVO PVT4 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
RADIO-5.10.05.30
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
Android Version
2.2
Baseband Version
32.48.00.32U_5.10.05.30
Kernel Version
2.6.32.15-g29e526b
[email protected] #1
Build Number
2.17.61.3 CL274424 release-keys
Softare Number
2.17.61.3
Browser Version
WebKit 3.1
Model Number
A8181
Good evening.
I'm new to the forum, so I hope it's ok that I ask a question as the first thing?
(Oh and bear over with my english as it is not my main language)
I'm quite sure you guys get this question quite alot, but it is a bit hard for me to collect the necessary information needed for me to start working on my "problem".
My plan is too root my newly aqquired HTC Desire HD.
As an added information: I already temporary rooted it using the VISIONary+ application and that seems to work as it should. I can get root rights and everything. So far so good - I havn't tried using the permanent root option that this program allows as I want to know exactly what I am doing before doing anything (I heard all the scary stories of bricking and stuff)
So let's start out with the questions:
- How do I check what firmware, kernel, ect ect ect I've got so that I can get the necessary information?
- How do I know if it is branded or not? (Not sure what that even means... I live in Denmark and bought it at the shop, and it is not simlocked. Phone company is Telmore)
- Where the hell should I start?
I looked up this guide: wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Full_Update_Guide#Flashing_Radio
Would that help me?
Also looked at this: androidpolice.com/2010/04/16/complete-guide-how-to-fully-back-up-and-restore-your-android-phone-using-nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
Could I just perma root with VISIONary+ without worrying and then using rom manager to get the recovery image on and stuff or is it better doing a manual root somehow?
Oh and by the way, I already got adb access to my phone through the pc!
(And please tell me if this is the wrong section of the forum.)
Thanks in advance!
I guess the first question is, did you purchase the telus desire hd in canada per chance?
The firmware /kernel info can be found in the about phone section of the settings menu.
As for rooting I personally favour the manual root specified by the good folks over at CyanogenMod here if you find that a bit daunting there are some automated one click tools over in the Development forums here on XDA, although most require that you have access to a computer running windows.
equlizer said:
I guess the first question is, did you purchase the telus desire hd in canada per chance?
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Nope. It was bought in denmark.
Dunno if it's a telus model or anything (As I have no idea what a telus is lol)
Some Information about my device: (Btw I'm trying to translate from danish. So ask if something sounds wrong)
- Android Version
2.2
- Basebandversion
12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
- Kernelsystem
2.6.32.21-gf3f553d
[email protected] #1
Thu Oct 28 13:24:11 CST 2010
- VersionNumber
1.32.405.6 CL278359 release-keys
- SoftwareNumber
1.32.405.6
- Browser version
WebKit3.1
As far as I can see my VersionNumber (I guess that is my firmware??) matches the one that the cyanogenmod guide (As In I dont need to downgrade yay!):
wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_HD:_Full_Update_Guide
Asks for.
Is there anything else I should check for before I begin, or would that be the guide I should follow?
Plus I forgot to say:
I'm pretty good with computers in general. So I don't care using an "advance" manual method as long as it is descriped well so I don't end up saying "Wait what? Where the hell should I go now?"
So no need to doing some noobish way (Not saying One click methods are noobish) I just need to know what to do and how it should be done.
ok for starters, dont worry about bricking, it's impossible to brick your device trying to root, infact there are only 2 ways you can brick your device, and thats flashing a radio or hboot you have the 1.32 software version and that can be easly permrooted using visionary, after you root, you may want to s-off aswell
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ok for starters, dont worry about bricking, it's impossible to brick your device trying to root, infact there are only 2 ways you can brick your device, and thats flashing a radio or hboot you have the 1.32 software version and that can be easly permrooted using visionary, after you root, you may want to s-off aswell
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First off, thanks for the quick help! *thumps up*
So I don't have to use the CyanogenMod guide? (would it be better if I did it that way?)
Or is it enough with a perm root with VISIONary?
Then after that I'm thinking of doing a backup (It's called Nandroid as far as I've read?)
Doing a perm root with VISIONary, followed up by flashing the recovery image using the one click option that ClockWork ROM manager allows.
Would I have to worry about doing that, or does my information say that my model should work perfectly fine with that?
I think it's quite important to say that I'm thinking of doing a Custom Rom later, but my first job is to get it rooted and backed up incase anything happens.
Oh and, how would I manage to do a s-off after I've got it rooted? Would that have to be done BEFORE doing the flashing of the recovery image and doing a backup?
you can use the Cyanogen method, thats just a manual way, i used visionary, and have had no problems at all, just click the permroot option and wait after you root, before you flash a custom recovery you need to s-off, this is because the nand chip has write protection, check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403 jkoljo tool is awsome and although flashing a hboot is dangerous, no1 has bricked there device using his tool yet, thats how safe it is once you are s-off, you can download rom manager and flash a custom recovery
I can see that the tool is called "One click ENG s-off" as in ENGLISH.
Does it matter that my phone is bought in denmark and is in danish?? (Does the language matter at all? :O)
virtual-aidz said:
I can see that the tool is called "One click ENG s-off" as in ENGLISH.
Does it matter that my phone is bought in denmark and is in danish?? (Does the language matter at all? :O)
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the ENG means engineering, there are two types of s-off, engineering s-off and Radio s-off, the engineering one allows you to issue fasboot commands though and the radio one dosent, either one will security unlock your bootloader though
Ah I see
I just noticed in the s-off guide: "tick "I have Radio S-OFF" in the tool"
Why do I have to tick that? I don't have Radio S-OFF? :O
And right now I can't even test out what we are talking about *sadface* I just noticed a dead pixel right in the center of the screen, so before I start messing around, I'm gonna take it to the shop and see what they say (God I hate dead pixels)
I know it's a bit (well alot) besides the subject, but I was just crossing my fingers that you were a dead pixel specialist and could answer a simple question: Would a dead pixel on a 1 month old phone (I think the pixel is red, but it could be black as in completly dead) have any chance of spreading or something?
Cause I could live with a single dot.. but if it has a chance of spreading, I would really wanna get it fixed before it's too late (And sorry for the off-topic in my own thread xD)
Notice the big OR in the requirements part? As you are not using a custom ROM, and you do not have Radio S-OFF, you should not tick it.
Dead pixels do not spread, and there are apps in market to revive dead pixels, you should try one of them.
jkoljo said:
Notice the big OR in the requirements part? As you are not using a custom ROM, and you do not have Radio S-OFF, you should not tick it.
Dead pixels do not spread, and there are apps in market to revive dead pixels, you should try one of them.
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Haha... My bad.
As I mentioned in my first post, my main language is not english. So I misunderstood what it said
I think I'm ready now.
Just need to talk with the shop before I void the warranty for good.
Thanks for the help guys, and I will return when I get it working (or **** it all up.. who knows)
By the way, root, S-OFF and custom ROMs do not void warranty. It says nothing about software in the warranty terms, check it out yourself if you want to
Odd. There has been multiple cases where they did not fix phones that were just rooted.
jkoljo said:
By the way, root, S-OFF and custom ROMs do not void warranty. It says nothing about software in the warranty terms, check it out yourself if you want to
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Oh and by the way. I see you're the creator of the s-off and radio s-off tools?
Is it true that you recommend Radio S-off (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537)?
And how do I check if I meet all the requirements?
jkoljo said:
By the way, root, S-OFF and custom ROMs do not void warranty. It says nothing about software in the warranty terms, check it out yourself if you want to
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actually it does............. "use of products, equipment, systems, utilities, services, parts supplies, accessories, applications, installations, repairs, external wiring or connectors not supplied or authorized by HTC" ........ custom bootloader, and software can come under the systems, applications and installations
Ah yay. I thought so
As far as I can see on the Radio S-Off (Again, is it recommended over s-off?)
System requirements:
Windows XP SP2 or higher
.NET Framework 4.0
HTC Sync (or ADB drivers)
Desire HD with stock kernel (or Apache14's 1.0.7 / 1.1.4 Sense)
It will not work on 1.72.405.3 or higher build, or new radio. Downgrade first!!
I got the 3 first ones covered.
But I'm not sure about the two last.
My Phone has HTC sense, but I dunno what version to be honest.
And I guess I got the last one covered too as I got the 1.32.405.6
You meet all the requirements
AndroHero said:
actually it does............. "use of products, equipment, systems, utilities, services, parts supplies, accessories, applications, installations, repairs, external wiring or connectors not supplied or authorized by HTC"
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Please take a picture for me, that is not included in the warranty statement that came with my phone. I rang HTC about it, and they said that unless the hardware is modified, software does not matter. Also mike1986 sent his phone to be repaired with ENG S-OFF and everything, and nobody complained.
jkoljo said:
You meet all the requirements
Please take a picture for me, that is not included in the warranty statement that came with my phone. I rang HTC about it, and they said that unless the hardware is modified, software does not matter. Also mike1986 sent his phone to be repaired with ENG S-OFF and everything, and nobody complained.
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How did you know I met the requirements with the HTC sense?
(I need to learn too)
Hey all, new here to posting although use this site alot for the quick fix answers ive had in the past.
How ever decided i would try rooting my desire z as i was looking for that extra control over everything and to loose some of that bloatware just like many of you.
Only thing im having trouble with is actually getting a successful root, im not one to just ask without looking of course but in actual fact ive been at this since 11ish this morning (8hours ago) with no luck. Ive tried about 5 different methods (from xda users such as 'Aegishua' and 'gtrab' guides to a random google searchs also) to no luck at all. Had quite a fair few errors pop up during the process of trying but so far my DZ is still intact and working fine but with S-ON still.
Im not here to ask for someone to explain a fool proof way to root my phone i was just hoping that someone may b able to point me in the right direction of a guide that should hopefully bring some success.
I have an unbranded Desire Z running 2.2.1 (originally 2.2) on Vodafone UK. i could list software details but im hoping someone could either tell me i can't root it since the new security update in 2.2.1 or could pass on a link to a guide that may work for me.
Sorry to sound long winded but its been a day full of "wtf's" amungst other phrases so im just a little lost and confused
Thanks in advance
Matt
if you have adb working and are comfortable with it, use the wiki method..
do you know what firmware version you are? if you are 1.72 or above, you need to downgrade to 1.34 before you will be able to root successfully.
Check in dev section, there is something bout debranding and rooting for DZ and shows what newly one has issue, also you could try the xda wiki methond gfreev.05
pmcqueen said:
if you have adb working and are comfortable with it, use the wiki method..
do you know what firmware version you are? if you are 1.72 or above, you need to downgrade to 1.34 before you will be able to root successfully.
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Before trying to root you need to follow the step above. This is mainly the mistake people make when they try to root the Desire Z if your a new comer, this is words from the wise. Lol
Your firmware is probably 1.85 or something higher than 1.72 by the looks of things which just means you need to downgrade. But the complicated part is actually getting the downgrade to recognize your vodafone branded Desire Z's unique CID. That's where a goldcard comes in handy because it bypasses the CID check.
Anyways, all you need to do is make a goldcard to downgrade. If you get any errors then post the exact errors word for word if possible.
It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd
If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!
I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?
Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...
Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.
Hey everyone. I want to clarify before I dig in with the reason for this help thread. I am familiar with rooting from a former phone of mine (HTC One V) and I had fun with it. My thing now is, I have an HTC One M8 with Sprint and I'm wary of rooting a contract phone so I want to do things a certain way. Still with me? Great!
What I want to achieve is as follows:
Root and s-off my M8.
Install Android Revolution HD.
Install the Harmon-Karmon software mod.
What I need to know is if I am using the right tools, the right Rom, and kernel. Also I want to be able to easily revert back to stock in case I have to send my phone in for one reason or another and I'm not sure if the recovery would have anything to do with that process.
For what I am trying to achieve what's the best way to go about it? I'm on smartpay I can't afford to.brick.this phone with a voided warranty!
Phonicate said:
Hey everyone. I want to clarify before I dig in with the reason for this help thread. I am familiar with rooting from a former phone of mine (HTC One V) and I had fun with it. My thing now is, I have an HTC One M8 with Sprint and I'm wary of rooting a contract phone so I want to do things a certain way. Still with me? Great!
What I want to achieve is as follows:
Root and s-off my M8.
Install Android Revolution HD.
Install the Harmon-Karmon software mod.
What I need to know is if I am using the right tools, the right Rom, and kernel. Also I want to be able to easily revert back to stock in case I have to send my phone in for one reason or another and I'm not sure if the recovery would have anything to do with that process.
For what I am trying to achieve what's the best way to go about it? I'm on smartpay I can't afford to.brick.this phone with a voided warranty!
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Have a read in the General section of this forum, best advice one can give.. read, read then read some more. That way you know the ins and outs, the pros and cons and most importantly the issues that will/do/may arise. Good luck